The Failure of Gun Control in Virginia Beach

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Virginia Beach Building 2 Front Courthouse Drive

U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- Gun-control failed again in Virginia Beach, and it failed big. A disgruntled city employee quit his job and then came back to kill 11 of his coworkers. The news media and gun-prohibitionists called for more more gun-control while ignoring all the failed gun-control regulations that were in place. These gun-prohibitions didn’t keep us safe in Virginia Beach.

Why would new laws work any better?

  • The murderer passed a required background check. The background checks, which looks backwards, failed to predict future behavior. Background checks never find new criminals.
  • Local preemption means that cities can write their own gun laws that are more restrictive than state law. Virginia Beach did that and it failed to stop this murderer. In fact, it enabled the attack.
  • Virginia Beach declared its municipal building as a “gun-free” zone. The city did not post armed guards after they disarmed their employees. We know that murderers prefer “gun-free” zones for their attacks because these zones disarm the intended victims. We also know Virginia Beach city employees wanted to go armed at work for their own safety.
  • Concealed carry licensing didn’t disarm the murderer. All the criminal histories and fingerprint requirements failed to identify this murderer or stop him, but these gun-prohibitions might have disarmed his victims.
  • We already regulate noise suppressors on firearms, but that didn’t disarm the murderer. Both the victims and the responding officers heard the gunshots.
  • There was an extraordinarily rapid police response, but electronic key-card access on the municipal building kept police outside while people died inside. Security doors keep out both the bad guys and the good guys.
  • The elevated stairway/entrance prevented a terrorist from crashing a vehicle into the main hallway of the municipal building. The stairway also kept first responders from breaking down the doors.
  • As expected, no more innocent victims were shot once the murderer faced armed opposition. A good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy with a gun. Does that surprise anyone?

The 23 thousand firearms regulations we already have in place failed us. They did not stop this murderer. They will not stop the next one. Democrat politicians proposed more of the same ideas that failed so badly in Virginia Beach. That passes for leadership among the advocates of gun control.

Stop voting for failure.


About Rob MorseSlow Facts

The original article is here. Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob is an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.

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    Lol
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    Lol

    If they’re just recycling the same old statutes from last session there’s not even a law enforcement exception in there for things like the 10+ rounder magazine capacity bans (this was clearly some well thought out legislation, right?). Kind of reminiscent of what happened in New York State with the “(UN)SAFE” Act (they had to pass another law exempting law enforcement after the police pretty much had no plans to comply with the 7 round limit, later overturned in court to a 10 round limit). Anyways, to propose making such radical changes to the state’s gun law in one swoop… Read more »

    I1uluz
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    I1uluz

    Interesting story about a conversation a victim and her husband had the night before the murders. I find it strange that the FBI is not the lead in this case, it’s still be handled by VBPD. I would bet it’s a bribery or corruption case before it ends. The worst part is the city will will claim sovereign immunity to avoid civil cases.

    https://pilotonline.com/news/local/virginia-beach-mass-shooting/article_1eea00c6-8c40-11e9-bafe-dfdea740099b.html

    Webfoot Logger
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    Webfoot Logger

    Have they ever found his former wife? Is she still alive, or did he kill her?

    musicman44mag
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    musicman44mag

    Dear Frank Truth There is no way that you will ever remove all the guns and to think that it can be done is not sane. This oppositoin to gun ownership has gone on for so long that there has been to much time for people to prepare for such a move. There are more unknown bunkers and stashes of arms buried in the U.S.A. than you will ever know. As a side note, my nephew was shot in the chest by his friend that thought the 22lr on the wall was unloaded. Today he has pistols, shotguns and rifles… Read more »

    Tacitus
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    Tacitus

    Nothing failed here, the policies in place worked EXACTLY as intended – note the Special Session coming up. Do you really BELIEVE the Elite care about the lives of Helots like you and me? WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tacitus
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    Tacitus

    Hey fuck you Frank! You know nothing but what you get off the errornet shit for brains. I’m local to this and there’s a HELL of a lot more going on here than people outside the 7 Cities realize. Bottom line, Viriginia Beach is a city of 400+ thousand run by a government so corrupt it makes Tammany Hall look like the Red Cross. It was a matter of time before something like this happened. Too much BS and ass covering here to type it all up. It’s nauseating.

    Clifton W Sexton
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    Clifton W Sexton

    The Democrats and liberals when will they ever wake up and actually see what’s going on in this country.We have plenty of gun laws but that will never stop a crazy person from doing something like this. I personally have over a hundred guns and I have yet to see one of them get up and go kill anybody, guns don’t kill people people kill people and until the laws get tough when you have a crazy person that does something like this they need to be caught and executed immediately not going through some mental evaluation or some lengthy… Read more »

    John
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    John

    Enter a “gun free zone”, start shit and kill, kill, kill.

    Enter anywhere else, start shit and get killed.

    Those who advocate gun free zones are responsible for the deaths of the victims as much as the shooter. Their ideology is intended to creates victims. You are not just collateral damage, you are the means in a process justifying their ends.

    Their ends is more control each time their ideology creates dividends.

    Make no mistake, this is not about gun control or even total confiscation of firearms.

    This is about absolute control over each and every aspect of your life!

    Frank Truth
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    Frank Truth

    The fact that you’re trying to spin this tragedy as a failure or existing gun control laws while ignoring the fact that if guns weren’t available at all is completely irresponsible and shameful. It’s seems that the only way people like you change your mind is when you lose a loved one in a situation like this.

    Keeper of Reality
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    Keeper of Reality

    That person would’ve come in with a knife or explosive if he didn’t have a gun to use- you can’t put deranged psychopaths in the same boat as responsible citizens. The only way to stop criminals is direct violence back, to make the fear they feel of responding violence towards them to be more than the “good” feeling they get by being violent towards innocents. No criminal would ever do this kind of stuff if they knew they would immediately be killed- they do this to make others suffer, and there is no need to have mercy on them or… Read more »

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    dd

    No criminal would ever do this kind of stuff if they knew they would immediately be killed…..A real criminal, how about a real psychopath criminal who has neither caring or empathy, Deterrence with armed officers is a better defense because it creates an atmosphere that the criminal avoids as it prevents them from accomplishing their twisted goals. If you are going to have a gun free zone then you need to provide other means of protection, including armed checkpoints. When in a major city went to the Federal building, which are now guarded by rent a cop company’s, used to… Read more »

    Heed the Call-up
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    Heed the Call-up

    Frank, in what Utopia do firearms not exist? The building was a “gun-free” zone for those employees. The killer decided not to abide by that policy. In Mexico, citizens have a “right” to own firearms, but the policy is so restrictive that they don’t. You know who does? Criminals, the police and the military. Full-auto isn’t legal there, but know know who has those weapons? Criminals, the police and the military. And the police and politicians are commonly targeted by the cartels, unless they co-operate with the criminals. Is that the Utopia you want to live in? The violent crime… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Keeper and Heed, the dude is either a paid shill or really stupid. If there were no firearms people would use a little squirt bottle of alcohol and a match; a blade; or the all time favorite, the bludgeon. I guess he would rather burn to death, get hacked to death, or beaten to a disfigured, lingering bag of human juice.
    Not me.

    Jack Mac
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    Jack Mac

    Frank Truth, tell us truthly and frankly. How far do we regress for firearms not to be available? Reestablish our worlds societies to that of the eleventh century AD, before firearms or to the seventh century AD before black powder? What do you mean by guns weren’t available? Do you mean unavailable to the non-government public, people like you and me? Do you believe that people in government would not commit mass shootings of people like you and me? If you had a choice of instruments to use as a weapon, what would it be? A jawbone of a donkey?… Read more »

    Jeffersonian
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    Jeffersonian

    My loved ones would be prepared to defend themselves.
    You think they shouldn’t be.
    You’re the bad guy.

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    FRank Lie, have you ever known anyone who was killed in an incident involving a bicycle, car, airplane, motorcycle, or skiing, rock climbing, boating? In response to that have you are anyone else made the life altering decision to disassociate yourself from the activity or inanimate object that was involved in the death? No? I didn’t really think so. Your thinking in regards guns is exactly this. LIVE is lethal. None of us are getting off this dirtball alive. Our daily breath IS terminal, Our birth IS our death sentence. You can put on your paranoid pants every morning and… Read more »

    Baldwin
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    Baldwin

    Fellow Virginians…where will you be when the special session of the General Assembly opens in July?

    Heed the Call-up
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    Heed the Call-up

    Baldwin, at the Capital. I plan on taking off work that day, and probably a few others, as able and as needed.

    Tacitus
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    Tacitus

    No need to bother. Red flag is coming. There’s one solution – hint: watch the first 5 minutes of We Were Soldiers, ’nuff said.