WA State Gov. Says ‘NRA On the Run,’ Gun Control Resistance Rises

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee claims to have the NRA “on the run.” (Screen snip, YouTube, Iowa Press)

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- With the July 1 full enactment of anti-gun Initiative 1639 looming in Washington State, yet another community has resolved to be a “sanctuary” for gun owners at the same time that Democrat Gov. Jay Inslee told the New York Times, “We’ve got the NRA on the run in Washington State.”

Whether that’s accurate is speculative at best, but it is clear from recent Evergreen State history that Inslee and the Seattle-based gun prohibition lobby, with its billionaire backers, do not have the state’s beleaguered gun owners running from anything.

The town council in Yacolt, a small community in far southwest Washington’s Clark County, earlier this week voted unanimously to designate the town a sanctuary from I-1639, according to the Vancouver Columbian. It creates a rather awkward situation because the town’s law enforcement services are provided by the Clark County Sheriff’s Department, and Sheriff Chuck Atkins is one of the defendants in a federal lawsuit challenging provisions of the controversial measure.

Clark County voters also approved the initiative – one of only a dozen counties in the state where it passed, while the majority of the state’s 39 counties rejected the measure – but in Yacolt, the vote against was better than 3-to-1, the newspaper said.

The New York Times interviewed all Democrat presidential hopefuls, including Inslee – who is running almost dead last so far on a climate change agenda – on 18 specific questions. The very first of those questions was “In an ideal world, would anyone own handguns?” Interestingly, the Times asserts in its story that, “Democrats have largely converged on a moderate, consensus view of gun control, focused on tightening background checks and banning military-style weaponry. We wanted to get at a deeper question of values — who thinks there are good reasons to own guns, and who thinks we’d be better off without them altogether.”

For the Times to suggest the gun-ban proposals from Cory Booker or Eric Swalwell to be “moderate” might raise questions among Second Amendment activists about the newspaper’s perspective on the subject of gun ownership.

Inslee’s answer to the gun question got the attention of MyNorthwest.com, which reported on his other reactions as well. Here’s what Inslee told the newspaper:

“Well, I think that in a world that I can foresee, that law enforcement personnel, that are trained and are protecting us, certainly are going to be needed and I do believe that there is some right, privately, for firearms. But I have been a person who cast one of the pivotal votes to pass the Assault Weapon Bill in 1994. I lost my seat, in part, because of that, but I have never regretted that vote because it was the right vote. And now I can tell you we’ve got the NRA on the run in Washington state. We passed through the strongest gun safety laws in the United States and we have more to do. So I’m committed to common sense gun safety…”

Washington State gun rights activists might take issue with their governor’s tepid acknowledgement that he believes “there is some right” of firearms ownership by private citizens. That right is enumerated in the State Constitution, Article 1, Section 24, which states, “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.”

Inslee, and anti-gun Attorney General Bob Ferguson, supported I-1639. But in late May, U.S. District Court Judge Ronald B. Leighton denied a motion to dismiss the challenge by the Second Amendment Foundation and the NRA, suggesting that the only place the NRA is running is to the courts. SAF and NRA are also partnered in legal challenges to gun control ordinances adopted in a couple of western Washington cities in apparent violation of the state’s 35-year-old preemption statute.

In the months since voter approval of the anti-rights initiative, many of the state’s county sheriffs have publicly declared they will not be enforcing provisions of the measure.

I-1639 raised the minimum age for purchasing a “semiautomatic assault rifle” (SAR) in Washington to 21, while creating a definition of an SAR that literally applies to every semi-auto rifle ever manufactured, including those popular sporting rifles in .22-caliber rimfire. It sets a waiting period, a training mandate, so-called “secure storage” mandate, registration, annual background checks to determine whether gun owners remain eligible to own their firearms, and several other requirements.

But one lawman opposed to the measure, Grant County Sheriff Tom Jones, was quoted by the Associated Press stating, “I swore an oath to defend our citizens and their constitutionally protected rights. I do not believe the popular vote overrules that.”

The age limit provision took effect Jan. 1, but the remainder of I-1639 becomes effective July 1. With the ten-day waiting period on SARs – a firearm that Spokane County Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich said doesn’t even exist anywhere but in the text of the initiative – it may have a major impact on gun show operators in the state, especially the Washington Arms Collectors. Their members are furious, and have been donating to support the SAF/NRA lawsuit.

Knezovich said earlier this year that he suspects the only reason the initiative actually defined a SAR is to allow a future effort to ban such firearms. By no small coincidence, the Brady gun control group recently appealed via email for funds to support its effort to ban “assault weapons.”

SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb has indicated that the federal court challenge could take several months. The losing side will almost certainly appeal an initial trial court ruling, and there hasn’t even been a court hearing on the case.

Meanwhile, as resistance grows to I-1639 enforcement, it could become an issue in the 2020 legislative elections. A change of power in the state capitol in Olympia could translate to a dramatic turnaround of the gun control effort that has turned the state into a battleground.


About Dave WorkmanDave Workman

Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.

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Hankus

Arrest Inslee NOW! Do it!

Kevin Stich

I am a Washington State citizen and I want all anti Constitutionalist politicians gone. Send them to prison where they belong.

ochwill

Jeepers RodCK Perhaps you might want to read a few gun safety studies which do indeed support what I posted. Ignorant, dangerous and hateful is no way to go through life Adolf.
ViolencePolicy.org,MarchForOurLives, GunsDownAmerica,NoRANow
Thanks for outing yourself as an uninformed hater however. Clown

Get Out

Jeepers Och, Perhaps you might want to read a few gun safety studies like this one in that sales are up and doing very well. Some food for thought is these numbers don’t indicate if multiple weapons were purchased.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/07/us-firearms-sales-year-over-year-increase-june-2019/#axzz5skqRoo7y

BTW Och you’ve yet to post when if ever you were issued a “semi-auto infantry assault weapon” while you were supposedly in the Marine Corps.

och will

AmmoLand says “Gun control Resistances Rises”…Translation…gun industry, gun lobby, NRA and far right extremists
drunk on NRA Kool Aid gun sales propaganda and fake patriotism continue to fight tooth and nail against the common sense gun safety laws that work in every developed nation on earth, ensuring that America will continue to lead the world in per capita gun violence.
You’re welcome.

Usmcwarrior

Stop being a jackass. Gun ownership is a Right not a privilege levied by anti-gun Democrats. You should do a little reading on the events leading up to and including 19 April 1775…it might give you just a little insight into the Founder’s motivations in codifying what they already knew to be a natural Right.

And you over-dramatized use of “gun murder capital of the world” belies your lack of understanding of officials Stats, and even less about simple mathematics.

Mark

How does 1639 affect felons wanting to buy a gun when it is already illegal for them to do so? How will it reduce crime? Why aren’t Chicago and Baltimore the safest cities in the world when they have all the gun control laws that you desire? Why isn’t Idaho a dangerous state given everyone owns a gun?

John Mattie

NRA DOESN’T RUN FROM A GROUP OF QUEERS…

Leslie burns

Never will I give up my rights because you want to control me by making me week. My rights give me power and strength to fight an over reaching goverment. Think WWII Germany, 2019 Venezuela & the former USSR. We are free by the rights written in our constitution never to be infringed. These politicians seem to want a civil war, such a sad time for our country.

Wild Bill

@Leslie, While I admire your ardor, I would like to offer you this small adjustment. Our Civil Rights are enshrined in the Bill of Rights, but come from God and natural law. Ergo: If the Second Amendment were repealed, we would still have the Civil Right to keep and bear arms without governmental interference.

Larry Green

Inslee is not being a representative of the people, or their rights and freedom. All along he starts unrest with citizens! He needs to be rightfully arrested on many counts!

Clark Kent

Not going to happen. Thanks for playing. Any other delusions you would like to share?

John Mattie

Right to Bear Arms has no vote its a. God given right you can vote all you want but its not up to a vote a pushing any law the invades basic human rights by government or any other group is illegal and people pushing any such law should be locked up and held accoum2 all loss and damages…

Wild Bill

@John Dunlap M, I agree! All of our Civil Rights, enumerated in the Bill of Rights, preempt later Congresses, legislatures, Presidents, Governors, Judges, and bureaucrats from diminishing our God given, and natural law originated Rights

DaveW

ANY law not supported by the will of the people can not be enforced.

FB

WA, Gov, The nra is mot the only organizarion out there you idiot.

George

S’funny…and he looks like a fairly intelligent man. I guess looks can be deceiving. It’s probably why we call them ‘dumbocraps’!! TRUMP~PENCE 2020!

Get Out

Dude says “We’ve got the NRA on the run in Washington State.” but it’s not just the NRA that are resisting his anti-gun B.S. Inslee’s got LEO’s stating they won’t enforce any related gun control laws. He’ll have law abiding citizens resisting as well. Inslee will have a bigger problem of trying to enforce gun control on people that will choose non-compliance.

DaveW

No matter what, CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE was alive and well in 1775, and remains alive today in every state which has passed gun control laws which violate the word and intent of the 2nd Amendment. It is also alive in Australia, England, Canada, etc. And everywhere it has been implemented, gun control laws have NEVER inhibited criminals in any way. Sen Feinstein has stated that she has, by her legislation, prevented criminals from acquiring deadly assault weapons, yet she can not PROVE even one case of a criminal not using any firearm simply because they may be banned. LIVE FREE OR… Read more »

Jack Mac

DaveW, in 1775 it was civil disobedience. Today it should be citizen defiance.

och will

Mattis. And that position is EXACTLY why America has the worst per capita gun violence rate in the developed world and is awash in mass shootings and infantry style high capacity semi automatic lightweight semi automatic weapons designed for killing people.
Gun safety laws work., Gun violence is NOT a political process. And take the fake patriotism and hatred for our elected officials and stick it. Clown

Mark

Gun safety laws work? How? Criminals obey them? Are they working in Chicago and Baltimore? Stop saying gun violence. Violence is what matters. If you look at homicides per capita, the US doesn’t even rank in the top 10. I suppose you think there is a difference in being stabbed to death vs. being shot to death. Good god. Guns save lives. 2.5 million defensive uses per year in the US alone.

Michael R Stuhr

I am one of many and I’m not running. If you haven’t joined you should.

Richard Hilton

I have been a Life member since 1973 and it’s always the same. Everyone wants to sit on their hands not spend a few dollars to join the fight and then complain when it goes against what they want to see happen. Join the NRA or any of the other organizations fighting the battles before it’s too late. Or stop whining about losing you’re 2nd amendment because it will be the fault of all the people standing on the sideline.

Michael J

Why do politicians and bureaucrats ignore the will of the people? Because once elected they never had any intention to represent us. These self-serving treasonous oath breakers have proclaimed themselves as knowing what’s best for us. Term limits are the only way to prevent these vipers from becoming entrenched for life and to remove the corruption that is the benchmark of career politicians and their appointed bureaucrats.

Tionico

Term limits will NOT fix the root problem. lazy and ignorant voters. One person I know, who had the data to back his claim, told me that ONLY 23% of Washington gun owners voted in that last election. And we number above FOUR MILLIONS. That’s more than enough to outvote King and Snohomish COunties. Until WE get out and bother to fill out the ballot that comes to our doorstep, and drop it in the box at the firehall ar OUR convenience, nothing will change. And term limits will take out the very few GOOD GUYS we manage to seat,… Read more »

OneEyeOpen

Voted for the first time, some 45 years ago, until I found out the electoral college could null and void our votes with the wave of their magic-wand. A lesson learned at age 17.. Since them times long past, I have seen the electoral colleges use their corrupt power to overturn the populous vote in 2 presidential elections, this sends a strong message to voters. We do what we want, don’t care what you think, put whoever will do our bidding, who suits our wants and needs. I Moved back to Eastern WA 3 years ago and reregistered to voter,… Read more »

Dave Workman

FYI, there is no sales tax on a gun safe in WA state.
We don’t “fire” the governor. He can be recalled.
Thanks for reading.

Clark Kent

And it can rain frogs. Which is more likely than Inslee being recalled.

Mike in Texas

The Electoral College is doing exactly what the founding fathers intended it to do: keep the heavily populated city states from controlling the political process by sheer numbers. I can’t believe you claim to be a gun owner, yet don’t agree with the Electoral College process

Clark Kent

Term limits are already enshrined in our Constitution. They are called elections and are held on a regular basis. The REAL problem is most citizens can’t be bothered to get off of their collective fat azzes to bother to REGISTER to vote, much less cast a ballot. ‘We have met the enemy and he is us’ – Pogo.

Phil in TX

I call Bravo Sierra on Inslee! The NRA is most definitely NOT “on the run in WA. We are fighting back hard and will prevail. It will take years to accomplish, but we’ll get it done!

Phil in TX
NRA Partiot Life Member, Benefactor

Barbara

All ‘gun control laws’ are un-Constitutional. Article 6, U.S. Constitution “The Constitution…shall be the supreme law of the land”. Therefore, no legislative law, Executive Order or local decree may limit, deny, change or modify the Constitution. THAT is called the ‘Supremacy Clause’. Article 6 continues “All laws must conform to and be made pursuant to the Constitution”. Therefore, any legislative law, Executive Order or local decree not in 100% harmony with the U.S. Constitution, is null & void. Americans could own any firearm of any type they wanted until the 1934 NFA. The U.S. Congress fearing the WW1 veterans they… Read more »

Michael J

Bravo!

Kivaari

Firearms dealers in Washington will be required to comply with the law regardless of what a local sheriff says. The state, out of Olympia, will demand the proper paperwork and waiting periods be enforced. A dealer that doesn’t comply will lose their state license.

Donald L. Cline

Fine. To the extent the withdrawal of a license is for the purpose of curtailing the right of the citizens of the State to keep and bear arms, and specifically, the most popular sporting rifle in the country, the action nullifies the State’s authority to demand a license, and frees up the firearm dealer’s right to buy and sell arms without State oversight. Unlike foreign nations, the State of Washington has no authority to legislate or enforce I-1639 regardless of any public vote: This is not a democracy run by mob rule; this is a nation of laws, and the… Read more »

och will

The most popukar sporting rifle in America……..translation,,,a lightweight high capacity infantry style rifle designed for killing numerous enemy combatants on the battlefield and with little utility for anything other than killing other Americans. There fixed that for you Adolf. Oh. The assault rifle market is a HUGE profit center for the gun manufacturers flooding our nation with hate, guns everywhere for everyone propganda, fake patriotism of the type you just posted and the worst per capita gun violence rate in the developed world . Intentional stupidity and gun industry sales propaganda. Gun safety laws work, contrary to the NRAs fight… Read more »

Mark

The AR15 is not used by any military on planet earth. Semi automatic rifles are not nearly as profitable as handguns. Hands/feet/fist kill more people annually than ALL rifles combined. This is straight from the FBI database. So why are you going after rifles when you should be far more concerned with getting beat to death by unarmed gang members? Meanwhile, 2.5 millions Americans use their guns defensively every year to defend themselves against criminals like you who would rather have us disarmed and defenseless.

Greg K

They already did that…As of July 1st all gun background checks are State Patrol run.

Look up Libertystate org…We need to split off, poste haste.

Pete H

Not-my-governor Inslee needs to get his head out of that rain barrel and read the State and Federal Constitution. He is supported only by a few counties and some billionaires that have their own agenda. Smart sheriffs, like Ozzie here in Spokane County, realize these new rules are politically motivated by a very ambitious and self-absorbed group.

Gunner98

So much for the state where leftist Storm Troopers are allowed to physically assault Conservative demonstrators; while nearby police officers, under government orders to “stand down”, whistle offkey and stare at passing clouds. People in Washington State let this crap happen because the majority were too lazy to go to the polls, the same as in most other States. You need to get actively behind every National and State organization standing for the 2nd. Not just lip service either. Donate, volunteer, rally, talk (not rant) to others and attend open hearings on gun related issues. Use your god given right… Read more »

Clark Kent

Then why don’t YOU become a police officer and show us all how it SHOULD be done? Put up or shut up.

och will

Gun safety laws work and they do not mean “disarming” Americans. Its a shame you spend more time agitating for armed insurrection than you do for participating in our democratic process. Ctown

Mark

Gun control laws don’t work. Never have and never will. Just start walking around the south side of Chicago if you don’t believe me. Especially if you are a white boy.

JohnR

Inslee is a PINK BALLOON! So is AG Ferguson with his intent on destroying Washington’s Constitution, it is all hale the Socilistic City of Seattle. Inslee is going to turn on Ferguson and run for another term as governor, The democrats socialists are going to eat their own.

There is a need to engage the moderate conservatives in the fundamental battle for their constitutional rights.

m.

fu governor dip-s**t, & all others like you

n r ringlee

The anti liberty lobby is on the run from the facts. Clowns like Inslee and the current clown posse declaring as democrat presidential hopefuls know that their arguments have failed. The vast majority of thinking Americans get it. They know that our liberties are underwritten by our natural rights and our ability to revolt against tyrants. That is why they need to disarm America. They can never march the masses off to utopia as long as people maintain a viable means to resist. On this issue there is no negotiation, no compromise.

och will

Gun safety laws do not entail banning all guns. And they are working in every other developed nation on earth, ALL of which have a lower per capita Guin. violence rate than America. Meanwhile you just keep on repeating gun manufacturers gun sales propaganda Rambo.

Carol B Combs

With all the stupid BS going on with the NRA right now, I’m not sure they will have any money left to actually do their job which they claim is to protect the second amendment. Just sayin.

William Flatt

If the NRA is bankrupt, the uptick is that they won’t have the means with which to Negotiate our Rights Away. Best to keep pumping money into the other gun groups like GOA, FPC, SAF, CCRKBA, etc.

Donald L. Cline

Join Gun Owners of America, the Second Amendment Foundation, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) (based in Washington). With organizations like the NRA, who needs gun-banners?

Troy

Our govoner is a criminal. By changing the age to 21 they have made it illegal for voting citizen to own guns. Could care less what the idiots in seattle/Olympia do. Time is coming when the govoner is going to push to far and he will have a full on state civil war on his hand. Will be a quick war. Those with guns vs those who dont know what bathroom to use

och will

Gun safety laws work and they do not mean “disarming” Americans. Its a shame you spend more time agitating for armed insurrection than you do for participating in our democratic process. Ctown

Ray

Jay Inslee and King County are the pit of WA State. He has no knowledge of economics or social issues along with being a complete ass. I cant wait to get him out and return the state to its natural order.

Greg K

We’re still talking 1639?

While everyone was watching the left hand Inslee signed these 7 without the referenda process.

https://www.guns.com/news/2019/05/08/7-new-gun-control-laws-signed-in-washington-state

Everyone had better wake up, this will be coming to your home state soon.

Steven Pope sop

Fake news in my world.
I’m surrounded by Sheriff departments on all sides here in Eastern Wa. That have flat out stated they would never enforce such BS.
Thank you Wa. State law enforcement for knowledge, understanding, an the morals to properly interpret the 2nd ammendment.

Mr. Walkker

Great Job Goobernor Inslee. You and Mr. Ferguson along with your Anti-Constitutional gun grabbing cronies have collectively destroyed the 2nd in WA State. Over reach is an understatement. – Idiots run amuck in Olympia, our so called State Capitol. Keep reding below….. -Case in point. Semi-Auto sales are screeching to a halt come July 1st, 2019, in addition to the buffet of unconstitutional laws forced upon the People. All of which begin 90 days after the 2019 Legislator convened. So Heads up, many and I mean many more so called unconstitutional RCW (CODES) aka “Law” become effective around July 27th,… Read more »

Tony

91.99% in Western Wa. is anti-freedom? Where did you get that number? I’m in Oly and everyone I know that voted did so against this stupid stuff.

Mr. Walkker

Thanks. I can answer your Question about NUMBERS.
The number (91.99% in fact, are derived from the 1.9 Million people whom collectively reside in KING County, Pierce County and Snohomish County0. Stop. aka The Clog of Seattle, Bellevue, Tacoma , Everett. et all. You. yourself reside in the middle of the pit of vipers (Pierce County) and only represent less then 8 % of those among you.
Sucks. yet real.
As real as Rain WA.State.
I say, Go Vote.
-Like it Matters….seriously.

och will

Gun violence in Washington is going to decrease. Thank god for elected officials who are honest. The fake patriot gun lobby wack a doodles are breaking out all the old guns everywhere for everyone sales propganda that has gotten America into its current position as the worlds only developed nation with the WORST gun violence rate on the planet. Gun safety laws work. Infantry rifles are not “sporting” firearms. They’re weapons of war designed for killing ALOT of enemy combatants on the battlefield. And they’re a HUGE profit center for the NRA and its backers in the gun industry. America… Read more »

Gunner98

Think god for LE who realize that their oath of fealty is to the Constitution and not those who occupy office for personal gain and power.

Jeff Islee

First of all, there is no such thing as gun control! There is crime control, but that deals mainly with communist democrat criminals. So the fake news useful idiots won’t touch that one. Then there is the program to seize guns from law abiding citizens. But that deals with primarily republicans, and independents, so the fake news useful idiots will never address the problem truthfully, or from a grammatically correct stand point either. Come to think about it, politicians, ad a rule, aren’t smart enough to know the difference. If Inslee refuses to uphold his oath of office to support,… Read more »

Gunner98

More appropriately these laws should be called Citizen Control Through Arms Restriction acts. Politicians are terrified of a people who can enforce their ability to run them out of town on the nearest rail.

Donald L. Cline

To the contrary, Jeff, if Inslee refuses to uphold his oath of office to support and defend the Constitution, that is perjury — and perjury has some pretty stiff penalties. Someone needs to file charges of perjury against him.

och will

Jeepers Jeff. You are totally the worst nazi gun nutter on the site.!!!!!! Congratulations Boris.

och will

Gun safety laws work. For 50 years the NRA has fought against gun safety laws. Actually since JFK,RFK and MLK were shot to death and LBJ proposed sweeping gun safety legislation at the federal level. Hey !!! The United States military keeps all of its firearms and weapons under lock and key when not in use. Likewise, ammunition is stored separately from firearms and the ammo is likewise kept under lock and key and is often guarded. There are virtually zero gun violence incidents on US military bases because of this. So, when the gun sales lobby fights against safe… Read more »

Mr. Bill

Where did you cut and paste this from?

Dave C

Talk to the military personnel at Killeen, Texas….. or the naval base a couple of years ago. Either you are an idiot or your nose is growing….

Big Jim

Thank you ock will for demonstrating ingnorance and lies.
Military bases are no safer than schools or churches or any outher gun free zone.
As Austrailia has confirmed shooting deaths there. Stabbing deaths in UK. Just avoid facts and spread fear is your motive. You need to seek help from a psychologist.
You probably are the next murder spree lunatic.

Donald L. Cline

They work in other nations not to suppress violent crime, at which they fail, miserably; rather they work in other nations to maintain governments with total absolute control over their citizens. Unlike other nations, however, our rights are regarded as Gifts from Nature’s God, which is why the Atheists and other Stalinist thugs like you are out to erase any mention of God in the public marketplace of ideas. Contrary to your thesis, gun control does not “work” to suppress crime in other nations; it “works” to facilitate crime both by criminal citizens and criminal jackbooted thugs who decide who… Read more »

Wild Bill

@All the gentile men supra: It is all swill. He puts in the least possible effort to provoke responses, for which he is paid. Then goes elsewhere to cut and paste more provocations. He never defends his swill, nor is he interested in a satisfying exchange of honest information.

Wild Bill

Sorry should be gentlemen. GD spell check.

tomcat

Yawn to och swell, can’t you come up with something new? You just keep repeating your own version of ideas that are nothing but your own wet dreams. It is getting really boring to have to read your same dribble over and over knowing it is just your opinion. There are no facts from reliable sources, just one sided gibberish. Yes, you are a bore and no one believes your version of gun control. I practice gun control everytime I pick one up, it only does what I want it to.

RodCK

To och will: You have no statistics to back up your BS ideas. You only use the terms all, virtually zero, and PROBABLY WOULD TOO. Most all gun owners already have Common Sense. They Keep their firearms and ammo Locked up as I do. I have never lost a firearm that has been Stolen or walked away on its own and ended up in a criminal’s hands. Thus in 60 plus years have any of them loaded and fired themselves. Criminals are what is needed to be controlled! When will the Stupid Politician’s and You figure that out? They and… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Tcat and OV, OSwill’s supervisor has not changed his propaganda broadcast script, yet.

Jack Mac

It is hard to write a new script, when they cannot remember the lies they have already told.

Jack Mac

Och, you do know that members of our military are under the military code of justice. Further, that the military chain of command is not a democracy. Members of the military are subject to a lengthy selection process and under constant review for suitability for society. These are among the reasons why crime is low on military bases. There have been mass murders on military installations. Military personnel and families still have access to their privately owned arms. Plus, there still are human beings dressed in uniforms milling around with machineguns.

Tell us how we can become paid trolls.

Mike in Texas

Och will, please go post your idiotic statements on the Barbie(TM) Collectors Website. They can perhaps give you pointers on how to better play with your paper dolls.

Mark

LOL. You are an awesome troll.