Father Fatally Shoots Man After Home Is Sprayed With Paintballs

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Father Fatally Shoots Man After Home Is Sprayed With Paintballs

USA –-(Ammoland.com)- KHOU TV 11 reported 05-22-19 in Houston Texas, a home was apparently targeted by group with paintball guns.

The shooting happened at about 11:30 p.m. in the 13300 block of Force. Police initially reported the incident as an attempted car burglary turned deadly, but the investigation is still underway at this time.

Police now believe a group of people firing paintball guns at the family's home was the catalyst for the shooting.

Sgt. Joshua Horn with the Houston Police Department told media (paraphrased for clarity) ‘They (the residents) were alerted to some sort of disturbance and believed that their house was being shot at.

The homeowner, the father, came outside and approached a suspect with a gun who was standing there. The father believed that the individual was a threat and fearing for his own safety, fired a round at him.

The homeowner also fired a couple rounds at the suspect's vehicle in the street. Several cartridge casings were found outside the home along with splatter from a paintball gun.

Police later received information that an individual who may have been involved in the targeting of this house ended up in a nearby hospital and was pronounced dead.

Investigators believe there were more than a dozen people outside the home when the incident occurred. As of this report it is unknown if any of them were armed with real guns or only with paintball guns.

Comments:

So, the resident is supposed to differentiate paintball guns from real firearms in the midst of incoming fire? I wonder if the paint spatter was red?

In most jurisdictions going outside to confront the attackers would be a serious error. Advice would be to call 911 and let the police respond with their tools and tactics to stop the threat

If the attackers force their way in before help arrives, do what is necessary to protect yourself.

Bob Irwin, Las Vegas


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Bob is retired after 30 years of ownership of The Gun Store & Indoor Range in Las Vegas. He continues his 2A issues show “Fired Up with Bob Irwin” on YouTube and on KLEY 1230 AM, The Nevada Talk Network on Saturdays.

As a firearm instructor of Concealed Firearm Applicants, Armed Security Officer and Law Enforcement Academies over his career, Bob appears frequently as an expert witness for firearm & use of force cases in Federal, State, and local courts.

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    Tony
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    Tony

    What motivated “more than a dozen people” to gather at the target home during the paint ball assault? Is there a history of bad blood? Were the paint ballers neighborhood kids?Obviously there’s much more to this story.

    Certainly it was just plain wrong to vandalize the home. But, if the homeowner knew it was a property crime and not a deadly threat, his overreaction could result in official entanglements.

    Ron 1
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    Ron 1

    Also like toy guns having the tip of the barrels painted red. Really helps,eh?

    BAM Pow
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    BAM Pow

    The lack of value life has to so many commenters here is tragic. If you’re too stupid to tell the difference between paintball fire and gun fire, you’re too stupid to own a gun! The shooter didn’t fear for his life, he was pissed someone shot water soluble paint at his house and wanted revenge. I’m all about an IQ test for gun rights, but that’ll eleminate most Republicans.

    Lee
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    Lee

    I always love it when someone who is clueless attempts to attribute motive to someone they don’t know, have almost zero information about the circumstances and knows even less about firearms and self defense. You have accomplished the trifecta.
    As to the difference between a paint gun and a firearm, it is patently clear that you know nothing about the very lethal spectrum of air rifles readily available. Educate yourself and then get back with us.

    MB
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    MB

    Some who see this as a ” lack of value life ” most likely have never experienced a threat to their or loved one’s life, and don’t know the law, especially Texas law. Someone shooting projectiles at your home at 11:30pm is a very real threat. The projectiles may be paint balls, but how do you tell at 11:30pm what kind of gun the perp is holding? Do you wait until someone or yourself is struck and injured or do you respond with projectiles of your own.? ( a paintball in the eye will destroy the eye and could be… Read more »

    Rock
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    Rock

    Ahh an all knowing Democrat commented… First of all the police have been known to shoot and kill holders of such guns, BB guns and plastic toys, so get off of you Democrat “know it all” high horse. YOU have ZERO idea what was going through this fathers mind at that moment. A paintball can penetrate the skin so imagine the sound (CRACKS) as they hit the side of the house, they WILL break windows too, you would NOT know immediately if it was paint balls or gunfire smart ass. It is dark and you hear things hitting the house… Read more »

    RT
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    RT

    Shut up jackhole. Head back to HuffPost. They must have noticed one of their idiots is missing.

    Rattlerjake
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    Rattlerjake

    Your IQ test might eliminate most republicans, but it will eliminate ALL leftists. Especially the dimwits like you that can’t spell eliminate!

    BAM Pow
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    BAM Pow

    The lack of value life has to so many commenters here is tragic. If you’re too stupid to tell the difference between paintball fire and gun fire, you’re too stupid to own a gun! The shooter didn’t fear for his life, he was pissed someone shot water soluble paint at his house and wanted revenge. I’m all about an IQ test for gun rights, but that’ll eleminate most Republicans.

    SeenItAll
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    SeenItAll

    “The lack of value life has to so many commenters here is tragic. If you’re too stupid to tell the difference between paintball fire and gun fire, you’re too stupid to own a gun! The shooter didn’t fear for his life, he was pissed someone shot water soluble paint at his house and wanted revenge. I’m all about an IQ test for gun rights, but that’ll eliminate most Democrats.
    There, I fixed it for you.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @BP, I don’t know how you could make those conclusory pronouncement about what the self defender felt because you were not there.
    In the facts given, it appears that there was insufficient time available to gather data and make the evaluation that you suggest.
    “The lack of value life has to so many commenters here is tragic.” Are you saying that there should be fewer commenters?

    RT
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    RT

    Same post again? F UCK right off troll.

    Rattlerjake
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    Rattlerjake

    Posted again and you still can’t spell eliminate! looks like you leftists have more than low IQs to deal with!

    Will Flatt
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    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    Ryben Flynn
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    Ryben Flynn

    Texas Law allow defense of property with force. 11:30PM, dark, somebody shooting at your house, can’t tell if it’s a real gun or something else. Homeowner returns incoming fire. I think any charges against him will be dropped, but it’s up to the DA. Texas Penal Code (2017) Chapter 9. Justifications Excluding Criminal Responsibility SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and (2)… Read more »

    Melody
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    I don’t think this is going to turn out very well for the homeowner. First impression from the headline is that this one is a bad shoot. Reading the article, there’s a slim chance it’ll be adjudicated clean but I’m still going with 80/20 odds that it turns out the homeowner is charged. Seems to me that Mistake #1 is coming outside the house to confront the paintball people. Mistake #1A is not locking all the doors and calling the police or sheriff’s office first. Mistake #2 is firing. Two things in this world you can’t ever get back –… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Melody, It was in Texas.

    Knute
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    Knute

    I was just going to note that as well. Texas is a different matter than most other States. Even here in Montana, the homeowner would likely be charged. And I have to agree with the reasoning. The thinking is: Since the homeowner voluntarily went outside ‘into the lions den’, as it were, he likely did NOT fear for his life AT THAT TIME. If he had truly been in fear for his life, he would have either hidden, or taken up a defensive position. The fact that he went outside to confront what appears to be an entire gang, suggests… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Knute, The thinking that, “Since the homeowner voluntarily went outside ‘into the lions den’, as it were, he likely did NOT fear for his life AT THAT TIME. If he had truly been in fear for his life, he would have either hidden, or taken up a defensive position.” is quite wrong because it presumes clear headed thinking and weighing of the balance when we all know that is not the case when first waking up. Particularly waking up to an emergency. Second, it rejects maneuver and fire tactics which are far superior to hiding in one’s house awaiting the… Read more »

    Popeye
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    Popeye

    Maybe he was indeed in fear for his life but being a father, choose to step out to protect his cornered family

    Knute
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    Knute

    I think you might have missed the part where I said that this is the way lots of people in Montana think, but not necessarily the way I think. And, it does seem to work rather well here, in most cases, but laws are things of men, and are thus always imperfect. For example, in Texas, you can open carry rifles, but not pistols. How does that make any sense? All States, all laws, all courts, are messed up and completely illogical in various ways. In Montana, we can concealed carry with no permit, so long as the pistol is… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Knute, I think that you missed the part where you wrote, “… the homeowner would likely be charged. And I have to agree with the reasoning. The thinking is: Since the homeowner voluntarily went outside …”
    You also write, “… in Texas, you can open carry rifles, but not pistols. How does that make any sense?” We did not think that it made sense either, so we changed it in the last legislative session because we are getting back to the Constitution.
    If you believe in our Constitutionally enshrined Rights, then Texas is calling.
    A cabin in Texas might be nice, too.

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @Knute …often thought about sail boat . Prefer the south east Alaska archipelago . Japanese current moderates the temp and tourists no problem . No heat and humidity .

    Ansel Hazen
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    Ansel Hazen

    Without the couple rounds fired at the vehicle I’d acquit but that’s where it goes from fear for his families life to teach them punks a lesson.

    Reason
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    Reason

    I think with the laws in Texas he is good.

    Reason
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    Reason

    Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Darwin award winner.

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    Yep. that bit about “criminal action in the night” as one of the “justificationis” for the use of lethal force will carry a lot of water for homeowner. Further, he could have gone out to try and scare them orr, but things escalated once he was out there…. and at THAT point he was in a real fear for his life/safety, and that of his family. Further to assume the toy paintball guns are the ONLY ones they nmight have with them is not a rock solid assumption. seems in Texas one has a strong right to protect and defend… Read more »

    Will
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    Will

    Melody,there is a 99.9% he won’t be charged. Charged for what ?

    tomcat
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    tomcat

    @ Melody No one knows exactly what they would do unless they are right there at the time of the incident. I would have done the same thing, it is a right to be able to defend yourself and your property. Not necessarily a law by some politician but a natural law.

    Rattlerjake
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    Rattlerjake

    Maybe you shuld read Texas law before commenting, moron!