Fayetteville, AR – -(AmmoLand.com)- A police officer in Gretna, Louisiana suggested on Facebook that Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez “needs a round…….and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve” in response to a satire article purporting to quote her as saying that soldiers are paid too much.
This comes at a time when law enforcement officers around the country are under scrutiny for a variety of bigoted remarks and advocacy of illegal violence made on social media. The officer who commented on Ocasio-Cortez and one other member of the Gretna police force who expressed approval of the post have since been fired.
There is a lot going on here. As a writer, I often call for broad freedom of expression, especially on social media, where so many of our political conversations are happening. And I understand the role of private gun ownership as a last resort for telling the government where the boundaries are. At the same time, law enforcement officers are armed agents of some level of that government, and it’s a good question to ask how we separate the public and private acts of the police.
If the reaction against what the officer said on Facebook seems excessive, recall that cops across the river murdered two and injured four on the Danziger Bridge in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. Now I recognize that we are not currently in the condition of what YouTuber Nutnfancy calls WROL (without rule of law), but my roaming about social media has shown me a lot of people who do believe us to be on the verge of civil war, and when a law enforcement officer says that a sitting member of Congress should be shot, that at the least deserves some intense questioning of the officer as to what his intentions are.
This is consistent with respect for free speech. Threats of violence are not protected expressions since they declare an intention to violate the rights of another. But this one officer’s ill-considered comment does raise the question of when, if ever, Second Amendment solutions are appropriate.
Whatever a person may think about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s politics, she is one first-term member among 435 in the House of Representatives. She does not wield executive power, and any bills that she sponsors will have to go through the legislative procedures to become law—subject to all the limitations that presidential vetoes and federal court challenges bring to bear. She is participating in the system that the framers set up for us, and threats of violence against that are themselves an attack on our constitutional structure.
As an American, I do have to recognize that my nation is the result of revolution. Revolutionaries have some explaining to do when they seek to shut off revolt as an option for succeeding generations, but this can be done if we keep in mind the purpose of the period of unpleasantness leading to our independence. We declared that the combined principles of individual rights and citizen participation in how society is run are essential for good government. Two and a quarter centuries have demonstrated the validity of that claim. And as many challenges, as we have had since we forgot about the Constitution following 9/11, our system is still holding together, even if parts of it are getting by on Bondo and duct tape. Until we are without the rule of law, until the mechanisms of voting and lawsuits and political speech have failed—not just been unable to get everything we want but have ceased working altogether—threatening to kill a duly elected legislator is not the American way.
About Greg Camp
Greg Camp has taught English composition and literature since 1998 and is the author of six books, including a western, The Willing Spirit, and Each One, Teach One, with Ranjit Singh on gun politics in America. His books can be found on Amazon. He tweets @gregcampnc.
Come on! Really! Dump on the officer for expressing an ? We’ve got American white male hating potential terrorist Muslims in Congress daily spewing hate and threats. We’ve got Feminist Nazis (Feminazis) in the Congress and Senate who hate anything Male and continually introduce laws that will adversely effect any men in favor of females. We have people of color (is that term still PC?) in Congress and the Senate who are openly and avowed racists (White haters) and work to destroy and demonize the White race. All these miserable SOBs say anything they want at any time, including lies,… Read more »
With all the racist slurs and hatred her and her cohorts have been spewing toward Israel and calling us NAZIS and everything else and they dont even get a slap on the wrist.Cant work one sided, She should of been removed from congress the day she stood up and put down our Country with the disgusting shit she was saying.At least Judicial watch filed a class action lawsuit against her for a few things,Ethics Complaint Filed against Rep. Ilhan Omar–Marriage, Immigration & Tax Fraud?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvbwxRAW8ns
Snopes has tagged the “We pay soldiers too much” statement as false. Anyone have any factual evidence to the contrary? The LEO never should have made the comment in the first place. We can only hope she gets voted out when her term ends.
Snopes is about as reliable as a crackhead looking for a rock. Don’t EVER trust Snopes, they’re as Left as they can be and nearly every fact check is slanted far Left.
Snopes is left! Known that a couple years.
Why did the Officer get fired? Wiki provides a clue: “As of the census[6] of 2010, there were 17,734 people, 6,958 households, and 4,286 families residing in the city. The population density was 4,685 people per square mile (1,922.0/km²). There were 7,665 housing units at an average density of 2,082 per square mile (845.6/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 48.05% White, 20.43% African American, 1.20% Native American, 8.12% Asian, 0.15% Pacific Islander, 4.03% from other races, and 2.45% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 24.38% of the population.”
This writer Greg Camp sounds very much like a liberal pansi-A$$ & should probably go to CNN & use this article as a Resume. By his very own words he claimed the cop said she “needs a round…….and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve”. is in no way a threat. If I said this chubby snowflake writer needs his A$$ kicked I’m not making a threat but now I would enjoy reading an article about it happening….Catch my drift.
Wishing or saying someone needs something is in no way a personal threat!!! End of story.
Cortez and her three friends in office show the American people exactly what they think of the American people.
The rest of the democrats and the RINO’s must think the same things about the American people or those four enemies of the American people would no longer be in office.
More socialist bullshit from crazio kotex
I agree with the LEO.
As usual she has it wrong. It is not the military that is getting paid too much. It is the politician that is getting overpaid. Term limits and NO GOLDEN retirement. Two terms and then GO GET A JOB. Quit sucking on the public tit.
@Dolanfossil, and the bribes from lobbyists! Only bribery can explain how they end up millionaires on a Congressional salary.
“We pay soldiers too much” There are NO words in my military vocabulary to describe this non-thinker! If this whack retains the ability to read and comprehend what she reads, I would suggest that she review this: “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” George Orwell This Ocrazio-Cortex needs a lesson on ‘equal pay!’ Have her trade that $170K salary and position, for just one interdiction into a known terrorist occupied adobe with her being the FIRST one through the door! IF she survives (not likely), replay… Read more »
@Firewagon, No words in your military vocabulary to describe her. Allow me to help: Non Useful Being (Nub), Perfumed Prince(ess); Beep and rush (that nasty sound when your secure comms are not in synch with other secure comms or talk devoid of meaning); Daddy’s little fuck trophy … I hope that helps!
V/r,
WB
As an E-4 in 1967 I was making $.32 per hour including combat pay. I wonder if she would go into the fire for that kind of money.
Semper Fi.
It has been suggested that AOC means “A$$hole of Congress” Could this be right.
He didn’t say HE was going to deliver it… No threat, he just stated a fact that probably 30 MILLION U.S. citizens share.
@Rock, I don’t know why everyone is upset. He just hit the lotto. Someone abridged his constitutional rights, under color of authority. Some one terminated his job over a message of unknown meaning from and unknown sender. Ambulance chasers should be falling all over themselves to represent him.
Kill Cow Farts? That is an idiotic idea. She is the gift to Patriots that keeps on giving. Every time she opens her top fart hole she helps the cause of those who oppose her racist, hateful, socialist crap.
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!!
Are LEOs no longer allowed 1st Amendment rights off duty?
Threats of violence are not protected speech.
A comment is only a threat if the maker has the means and intent to bring harm on the subject of his comment. In this case the commenter had neight, this it was NOT a “threat”. I can threaten to knock your block off, here typing at my keyboard, but the reality is I have no idea who or where you are, nor any means of discovering these details. This it is not even a threat. BUT for me to declare that SOMEONE ELSE should knock your block off puts it well outside whatever control or intent I might have.… Read more »
Blown attempt at being poetic – equating a round of drinks with a round of ammo. The officer was not exhorting anyone to violence against an official – unlike, for example, Maxine “polluted” Waters, who seriously encourages her puppets to assault members of the administration. Last I looked, she was still in Congress, instead of in jail, where she belongs on charges of treason, sedition, abject stupidity, and a face like a rhino’s behind. I can see that he got himself crosswise of political correctness in his clumsy attempt to be cute – in response to, of all things, a… Read more »
The 2nd most scary issue with her is that she got elected to congress. The #1 most scary thing with her is if she gets re-elected
She will be, she is going to be around for awhile.
AOC {AMERICAS OFFICIAL CRACKPOT} She wont be Around Long if she tries to put A Cork in the A** of the Rib Eye Steak I have growing in My Pasture
Maybe the officer meant a round of golf? Ya know, maybe for her just to relax and chill a bit.
Someone needs to tell Miss occasional cortex that she is a politician right now….Just like an actor or actress she has no right to privacy and is basically a public figure.. people can say anything they want to about her… she is an extension of the federal government.. she voluntarily did this to herself..no one put a gun to her head but I would like to..
Threats of violence are not protected speech. Be those against another citizen, an immigrant, a foreign national or member of congress.
@Tcat, Worse than that, even. Threats of violence are evidence!
@ Wild Bill I think tomcat1482 has a very wide streak of politically correct running down his back. I did not hear anything that should have got the guy fired. We know AOC and her band of hoes have said much worse.
“Never tell anybody outside the family what you’re thinking.”
Vito Corleone
@JI Az, Yes, and then just tell jokes.
In these days of “political correctness”, #MeToo’s, liberal/progressive/democrat/communists not even the family can be trusted. In the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Mao’s China family members were rewarded for tuning in the outspoken family members. Nope, I keep my mouth shut – I have only 1 person I can freely talk with about all of this, my fiance who shares my beliefs, points of view and political perspectives.
soldiers are paid too much
this is rich coming from someone who has a $5000 per month flat in her congressional “district” where she never lives…. which has been lavishly furnished and appointed with the use of far too many tax dollars……and who also pays her sweetie pie far too much more tax money to do.. whatever it is he does.
SHE should be eager to serve her country on the pay military enlistees get. ALL congress critters should.
P.S. we’re not at WROL? Spend some time on the Southern border and then reconsider.
I suspect her constituents will no longer during her Kool Aide, (now seeing her true colors, more taxes, less jobs, do as I say not as I do), and kick her out of office. The real question, is a criminal investigation into her cohort Omar happening. Allegations (and appearing credible evidence surfacing) Omar may be guilty of immigration fraud, tax fraud and marriage fraud. Of course anyone who challengers her is immediately labeled racist! So be it – investigate her and if there is not enough evidence to indict, she still can be labeled a fraudster as she cannot be… Read more »
Will not longer drink her Kool Aide
#Fake News. No conspiracy, No collusion .
Somebody should fill her big mouth with spicy rice and beans… after they’ve been eaten. Better yet someone with Giardia.
She’d had worse shit in her mouth than that.
She needs her mouth filled with something,an it’s not rice or beans. On the other hand , she couldn’t bartend, she damn shore isn’t Congress capable. She has the mouth, but that’s about it, all mouth.
The 1st Amendment, like the 2nd, should have NO boundaries. Actions are different than speech, and no one actually believes that he was planning, or acting on a plan, to do harm to her. The BoR is not something to be whittled on away depending on circumstances. Either you follow it despite your personal reservations or not. Liberty is uncomfortable as well as dangerous, and that seems to be the cause of people watering down the protections stated in the BoR. The officers involved showed bad judgment in stating their feelings about one of the Four Whoreswomen publicly, and they… Read more »
While the comment was in poor taste and arguably inappropriate, and while it certainly can’t help the cause of 2A, it shouldn’t be illegal. It isn’t actually a threat unless the individual has the ability to carry it out. Just having a gun and living in the same country does not constitute imminence (or the ability to carry out what was stated).
Comment POOR TASTE, YES, Carrier Ending NO, a good ass chewing YES, but this is how it boles down, if you are a conservative you can’t say anything about anybody, but if you are a Demo-Rat or quote somebody in power you can say anything against anybody especially if you happen to be a Male or a WHITE MALE, We are not a perfect Nation, we are trying to make it right , we have made mistakes in the past, but we continue to try to make it right, and it does take time!
Poor taste and inappropriate…he probably typed what he was thinking. The danger of social media is it allows people to post without vetting their own thoughts first. Can you imagine what Thomas Paine would have posted, if he had Facebook? His pen to paper writings were incendiary enough during his own times. I don’t think the police officer should be fired, but perhaps he needs to take some time off social media. As for AOC, she’s not in this for a career. As others have said, she’s aiming for “The View” in 5 yrs, and going to make her $… Read more »
Why yes, I can. This is my present sig line, odd you should mention that.
Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil in its worst state an intolerable one; Here then is the origin and rise of government; namely, a mode rendered necessary by the inability of moral virtue to govern the world; Thomas Paine
Okay, but tell us how you really feel, Dave!
As envisioned by the founders, the 1st Amendment acknowledges and guarantees our Right to say that the King is an idiot. It does not, however, grant license to advocate for the murder or harm of any individual; no matter how stupid, clueless or treasonous he or she is. That is why we supposedly have a system of laws and punishments.
So, yeah, I want to see all AOC and her squad of America haters broken, disgraced, tossed out and suffering total career destruction; but without anyone else doing or saying anything stupid that will rebound on them.
This officer should be fired. Not because of what he said but because he posted his comment on an open internet site. Doesn’t he know nothing is private on the internet? So the charge should be “STUPIDITY.”