Security Company Sued In Las Vegas Over Death Involving Guard

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Lawsuit
Lawsuit

USA –-(Ammoland.com)- The Las Vegas Review-Journal, FOX TV 5 & most all other local media reported 05-07-19, the Las Vegas branch of a national security company is facing a wrongful death lawsuit after a resident died at the hands of guards employed by the company. The lawsuit stems from the January 2017 death of a 57-year-old woman who was working at a Henderson jewelry store when a security officer fired on an attempted robber but missed. Unfortunately, his bullet struck a female employee in the chest.

Records identify the shooter as an officer who was hired in 2015 according to records from the Nevada Private Investigators Board. He has been licensed since 2007.

An attorney who represents her estate said “We are taking a close look at the training of the officer that shot and killed (his client), by mistake. There is absolutely no allegation at all that this was intentional. It was a sad accident.

But what we’re focused on is did his company properly train him, had he carried a gun, was he familiar with the gun he used when he shot her.”

The officer is still a licensed security guard, and state records still list him as an employee but unarmed. That change was not a result of disciplinary action because there is none in his file. It appears that for unknown reasons, his firearm certification lapsed and he did not requalify, so he is no longer qualified to carry a firearm.

Attorneys on all sides did not respond to requests for comment.

The case is tentatively scheduled to go to trial in 2020 in Clark County, Nevada, District Court.

Comments:

The “catch-all” lawsuit in police, security and CCW shootings are always the failure to train issue. A large portion of my expert witness cases are these types of litigation. Competent firearm trainers always emphasize “watch the background” when teaching.

It’s easy to say “shooters must watch the background” in training or in court. However, in the real-life dynamic motion and speed of a gunfight, it all but impossible to clear the background efficiently.

It’s even harder to avoid having rounds miss the opponent (or pass through him) and hit someone in the background. Fired projectiles also occasionally ricochet into a bystander.

Only professionals with years of continued practice (think SEAL teams, SWAT Officers and Secret Service Agents) can make accurate shots in the midst of a real gunfight, particularly with handguns.

Conversely, we often see in reports wherein the victim was hit in the head when realistic evaluation indicates the shot was a lucky (or unlucky) hit but not intentionally aimed at the head.

So, the issue becomes how much actual live fire training should be realistically required to carry a firearm? Police agencies seem to hover around 50 hours and armed security companies for about 24 hours. These range training hours are in addition to the classroom training in use of force and de-escalation methods.

With CCW holders or armed civilians in constitutional carry areas, the regulation writers run into that pesky Second Amendment. The anti-2A side in D.C. is about to push that issue into the courts.

Bob Irwin, Las Vegas

About Bob Irwin

Bob is retired after 30 years of ownership of The Gun Store & Indoor Range in Las Vegas. He continues his 2A issues show “Fired Up with Bob Irwin” on YouTube and on KLEY 1230 AM, The Nevada Talk Network on Saturdays.

As a firearm instructor of Concealed Firearm Applicants, Armed Security Officer and Law Enforcement Academies over his career, Bob appears frequently as an expert witness for firearm & use of force cases in Federal, State, and local courts.

  • 17 thoughts on “Security Company Sued In Las Vegas Over Death Involving Guard

    1. My 36 year old son shoots handguns for recreation. He is self-taught, and if asked, would probably say he is only an average marksman. Based on my experience watching other people at the shooting range, I think I would have to disagree. His groups are as good as or better than 80 percent of those other shooters. Many of those others are probably concealed carry permit holders. I see that as a frightening and sad commentary on people’s willingness to spend the time and effort necessary to improve their marksmanship.

    2. “Only professionals with years of continued practice (think SEAL teams, SWAT Officers and Secret Service Agents) can make accurate shots in the midst of a real gunfight, particularly with handguns.”
      I would like to see the documentation Bob used to make this statement. Until then I am going to call BS. Apparently Bob doesn’t get out to many action pistol matches. While not a “real” gunfight, it doesn’t vary that much. Oh, those professionals, they are burning ammo paid for by the public while on the public dime. Apples vs oranges.

        1. So what you are implying is that SEALS, SWAT teams, and Secret Service agents go out and actively look for and engage in “real” gunfights so they can maintain their knife edge shooting abilities. That is just silly. You should be embarrassed for yourself.

    3. I weep when I visit the range and watch people pull what is obviously a carry gun and put up a 6″ group at ten yards slow fire, with no pressure.
      Then I realize these guys probably fire more rounds in a week than the pros do in a year.
      It’s frightening.

      1. hearsay from ?
        .most gun fights happen at < 10'
        .4" x 4" box/group/target, with the top @ the junction of the collar bones will permanently stop a threat

        1. @m, Watching people is original research, not hearsay. I think that BB is just saying that if they can not shoot in a no pressure situation, they are not going to get any better in a real pressure situation. Maybe some coaching would be helpful.

            1. @m, Oh, I only saw the one set of comments, and they seemed to be aligned as a response to BB. Is Ammoland holding them? I look forward to reading your bulleted items comments.

    4. So training and registration, as proposed by dem candidate Booker, doesn’t really make anyone safer? Say it isn’t so. And all these highly trained individuals should be exempted from all the new gun control proposals?

    5. I don’t care what anybody says police officers civilians military anybody that carries a automatic weapon think they have enough Firepower to put everything. That is a fallacy of already challenged that with Erwin once he said no it’s called aim and shoot remember here couple years ago when the Federal Officer got killed pharaohs Federal Courthouse one man shot across street 84 rounds were fired at this guy 84 rounds and only to hit him cuz people think is going to 15 shot clip killing I took several classes and call Penny Shooting I told this any College Point shoot it is not as far more to it than that but I’m not going to argue with him he’s supposed to be the expert nobody knows more than him not going to I’m not sure if this how you say it but the Russians teach their officers I can accurately shoot and so do but you wish officers they use live rounds the practice with but like I said I’m not an expert I just took classes through these two governments the Russian in the Jewish I think I’m pretty good at what I do but I’m not going to brag takes practice not to panic takes practice thank you

    6. A responsibly armed citizen should always train/get training. But it should never be mandated as a requirement.

      What would be good to see is for firearms training be a tax write off, or find another way to make training/education more affordable. The single mom that works 2 jobs to stay above water can barely afford a gun along with a permit to keep her abusive and violent ex away, nevermind the cost of training.

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