Is Trump At Last Ending Our ‘Endless Wars’?

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Is Trump At Last Ending Our ‘Endless Wars'?

USA -(Ammoland.com)- The backstage struggle between the Bush interventionists and the America-firsters who first backed Donald Trump for president just exploded into open warfare, which could sunder the Republican Party.

At issue is Trump's decision to let the Turkish army enter Northern Syria, to create a corridor between Syrian Kurds and the Turkish Kurds of the PKK, which the U.S. and Turkey regard as a terrorist organization.

“A disaster in the making,” says Lindsey Graham. “To abandon the Kurds” would be a “stain on America's honor.”

“A catastrophic mistake,” said Rep. Liz Cheney.

“If reports about US retreat in Syria are accurate,” tweeted Marco Rubio, Trump will have “made a grave mistake.”

“The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS in Syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake,” said ex-U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, “we must always have the backs of our allies. ” But of our NATO ally of almost 70 years, Haley said, “Turkey is not our friend.”

Sen. Mitt Romney called it a “betrayal”:

“The President's decision to abandon our Kurd allies in the face of an assault by Turkey is a betrayal. It says that America is an unreliable ally; it facilitates ISIS resurgence; and it presages another humanitarian disaster.”

Trump tweeted this defense of his order to U.S. forces not to resist Turkish intervention and the creation of a Turkish corridor in Syria from the eastern bank of the Euphrates to Iraq:

“The Kurds fought with us, but were paid massive amounts of money and equipment to do so. They have been fighting Turkey for decades. … I held off this fight for … almost 3 years, but it is time for us to get out of these ridiculous Endless Wars, many of them tribal, and bring our soldiers home.”

When, in December, Trump considered ordering all U.S. troops home from Syria, Defense Secretary James Mattis resigned in protest.

Behind this decision is Trump's exasperation at our NATO allies' refusal to take back for trial their own citizens whom we and the Kurds captured fighting for ISIS.

The U.S. has “pressed France, Germany, and other European nations, from which many captured ISIS fighters came, to take them back, but they … refused,” said a Sunday White House statement. “The United States will not hold them for what could be many years and great cost. … Turkey will now be responsible for all ISIS fighters in the area captured over the past two years.”

What are the arguments interventionists are using to insist that U.S. forces remain in Syria indefinitely?

If we pull out, says Graham, the Kurds will be forced, for survival, to ally themselves with Bashar Assad.

True, but the Kurds now occupy a fourth of Syria, and this is not sustainable. We have to consider reality. Assad, the Russians, Iranians and Hezbollah have won the war against the Sunni rebels we and our Arab friends armed and equipped.

We are told that the Kurds will be massacred by Turkey's President Recep Erdogan, who sees them as terrorist allies of the PKK.

But the Turks occupied the Syrian border west of the Euphrates and the Kurds withdrew without massacres. And how long must we stay in Syria to defend the Kurds against the Turks? Forever?

If we depart, ISIS will come back, says Cheney: “Terrorists thousands of miles away can and will use their safe-havens to launch attacks against America.”

But al-Qaida and ISIS are in many more places today than they were when we intervened in the Middle East. Must we fight forever over there — to be secure over here? Why cannot Syria, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States deal with ISIS and al-Qaida in their own backyard?

Why are ISIS and al-Qaida over there our problem over here?

“This will throw the region into further chaos,” says Graham.

But if Trump's decision risks throwing the region into “further chaos,” what, if not wholesale U.S. intervention, created the “present chaos”?

Consider. Today, the Taliban conduct more attacks and control much more territory than they did in all the years since we first intervened in 2001. Sixteen years after we marched to Baghdad, protests against the Iraqi regime took hundreds of lives last week, and a spreading revolt threatens the regime.

Saudi Arabia is tied down and arguably losing the war it launched against the Houthi rebels in 2015. Iran or its surrogates, with a handful of cruise missiles and drones, just shut down half of the Saudi oil production.

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is awakening to his nation's vulnerability and may be looking to negotiate with Tehran.

Among those objecting most loudly to an American withdrawal from the forever wars of the Middle East are those who were the most enthusiastic about plunging us in.

And, yes, there is a price to be paid for letting go of an empire, but it is almost always less than the price of holding on.


Pat Buchanan
Patrick J .Buchanan

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “Nixon's White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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Ej harbet
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Ej harbet

Thought mr buchanan was one of the neocon hawks.glad to see thats not the case

Bill N
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Bill N

All of this crap about the Kurds being abandoned is just that, crap. May I remind some that Osama was once our ally in Afghanistan when the Russians invaded. I wonder how many, if any care to remember what happened when Russia hauled butt out of there. Osama soon forgot who his friends were and look what happened. We just need to help our true allies in that region and stay the hell out of battles that have been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years. We have no right to stick our nose into conflicts that don’t… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Bill N, but the Kurds are out true and long term allies… and they fight. Nor do they follow our ROE.

Henry Bowman
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Henry Bowman

Only you are so fucking wrong, they are not our “long term allies” they are mostly commie leaning faction that do not share any of our values/ ideas/goals. etc.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@HB, They would have been our long term allies. No they do not share our values, that is true. The commie part, I don’t know. I never talked to them about that. But they are effective fighters. They are not the typical inept, don’t aim, can’t follow a plan, rag bags. The Kurds fight. Even their women and teen agers fight.

Will
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Will

@HB,the Kurds never were and never would have been long term allies of the US. They sure as hell wanted the US to be long term allies of theirs though. (Never ending US military presence) No more US military lives lost ! Trump made the exact right move withdraw of US forces.

Will
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Will

@USA,and President Trump will make sure protecting the US and it’s borders stays top agenda too ! TRUMP /PENCE 2020 !

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, I’m not saying that Trump is wrong about getting out of the middle east. I’m just saying of all the peoples of the middle east, the Kurds killed more people to save American soldiers than any other. Its too bad that we can’t do something for them.

Will
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Will

The US should had stopped being the world police years ago. We send our troops to defend and train,and give them the arms to do it with. But they always want us to stay and fight,never defend themselves.Trump ended that !

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

I hope that we left the Kurds lots of ammunition and equipment.

Will
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Will

If so,Turkey would have it by now.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, what makes you say that?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@USA, The Erdogan gov views the Kurds as terrorists because of the land dispute.

Vern
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Vern

Why are all those who were against our intervention in the first place now for our staying in there? Money and power, just like it was to get us into Vietnam. But today there is much more than those two entities involved in this fraycus. It was written about 2700 years ago and now is playing out in front of our eyes. Those who know the scriptures who are on here know what I am talking about. Those who don’t know the scriptures can find it in the book of Ezekiel, 38, and 39th chapters. The names of the players… Read more »

Morrigan
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Morrigan

I find the concern of our “leadership” alleging betrayal of our “allies” pretty hollow beside the betrayal I watched occur of our South Vietnamese allies, with whom we had an agreement to defend if North Vietnam broke their word….which of course they did.

Allies that I fought for, and for whom three of my buddies have their names inscribed on marble.

If it were the politico’s sons and now daughters marching off to battlefields I wonder how long they would want to keep on sacrificing them?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Morrigan, But the Kurds fight, we could actually depend upon them.

Buster
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Buster

We can gauge the accuracy of Trump’s decisions by how loudly the libtards scream.

I put ZERO stock in anything that spews from Lindsey Graham’s mouth.

joefoam
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joefoam

Remember all the pearl clutching and screeching when w put boots on the ground to begin with? Now there is more because we are leaving. There are lots of factions of Kurds, not just one big group and some are communist sympathizers and less than friendly to the US. Let them sort it out. The threat to the US was the proliferation of ISIS, which has been eliminated, let the tribal warfare get sorted out by the tribes.

Laddyboy
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Laddyboy

The HONOR which America has is to PROTECT Americans. I am sorry these FOREIGN Nations want to kill all those who disagree with them. It is NOT the job of America Nor Americans to send OUR young Troops into FOREIGN lands where the people there DO NOT WANT OUR HELP. It is time for the People of that area to FIGHT, if need be, FOR THEMSELVES. America is NOT responsible for these “religious NUTS” who have been killing each others’ “clans” for HUNDREDS of YEARS. As was said: America should be friends with all Nations, BUT be not entangled nor… Read more »

Truth
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Truth

I wondered why Trump would “abandon” the Kurds who fought along side of us. At first I thought it was a mistake. Since then however, I remember the Founding Fathers were correct when they advised Americans to stay out of other countries wars. Unfortunately, most politicians of both parties choose to ignore that and have dragged (unconstitutionally) into many wars beginning with Vietnam. I also think it is related to this video regarding members of antifa having been trained and fought alongside the PKK Kurds (labeled a terrorist group by government) and are possibly training others here in the US… Read more »

cav2108
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cav2108

We don’t really HAVE any honor anymore, thanks to the leftist democrat scum and their RINO enablers. So, you aren’t going to “shame” me into wasting one more American’s life for anyplace or anyone in the Middle-East. Those people need to work out their own problems themselves. Any solution posed by an outsider, especially an infidel outsider, will always be rejected by those murdering savages. They are still mired in the 14th century and I don’t see any reason to get mired with them. If there was ever a reason to turn our backs on a hateful mass of murdering… Read more »

Laddyboy
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Laddyboy

@c: As to America not having HONOR anymore – – That is not true! There are STILL MILLIONS of Americans who WILL defend America against ENEMIES – – both Foreign AND Domestic. Right now there are a LOT of DOMESTIC ENEMIES occupying many positions of power in OUR government. These CONS need to be WEEDED OUT and sent on their “merry way” to live with their INFAMY. OUR Congress has been OVERRUN by the CONS “representatives” who are occupying seats in the current CON-gress. The THEATRICAL PRODUCTION that the DemocRATs are producing needs to be come to an end. I… Read more »

Vern
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Vern

History will look at those in this country who pursue slavery in the form of socialism/communism for the purpose of throwing away their freedom, as, “the epitome of stupidity.” I don’t know how else to describe it.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

I was a U.S. Army scout back in the days before satellites and drones were available. This involved going behind the lines, seeing what was there, destroying what we were supposed to and reporting what we saw to “higher”. When people think “war” most envision nations against nations. The war we are in is not like that. We are in a war of ideology. This war is literally a good against evil war, it is a righteous against people who would use a foul, evil “religion of peace” as an excuse to do the evil in their hearts kind of… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@DB, “Religion of Peace” is just a cover story and propaganda effort.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Yes Sir, it is.
Arm up, carry on.

tomcat
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tomcat

@ DB Your explanation of Islam is truthful and factual and to add to it we and most other countries are being infiltrated with them I say it is for one purpose and that is to capture all the real estate they can get. Then we would have to convert or be killed. I think they need to stay in the sand and fight among each other because they are not civilized.

Laddyboy
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Laddyboy

“religion of peace” – – – – NAWWW! It is a CULT OF PIECES!! A piece of someone here – – a piece of someone there. As a muslema jihadi said; “Someone DID Something!?!?.”

Vern
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Vern

I think you will find the spelling of, “peace,” related to, “pieces.”

Vern
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Vern

As foul as Islam is there is a religion that is even lower and worse. Islam is on the verge of meeting its waterloo when it attacks Israel as in Ezekiel 38, 39, but there will be an even more foul, evil that will take its place. That is the evil we fought in Vietnam, communism. If you know the scriptures, you might ask yourself “why is the area around the Euphrates River being cleared as it is today?” That is what I see going on with Turkey today. There is also a path being opened for Islam to attack… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Vern, I agree, the Chinese Communist government is a far greater threat than Islam ever could be. China has used the greed of the globalists and elitists to position themselves for victory over the US.

China steals our intellectual property, forces partner companies in America to turn over technology, produces opioids and fentanyl in quantity guaranteed to get them to the street level, produces everything artificially cheaper to take industry away from America.

So if everyone is addicted and there are no industries in the US, the Chicoms will defeat us with our own designs that they have stolen.

Vern
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Vern

The power of wealth is what keeps people trying to get their share of it, even if they do nothing to gain wealth except vote for it and wait for it to happen like the left says it will. The problem with that is the fact the commies never redistribute anything down, it is always, up, to themselves. The commies aren’t really worried about the masses rising up against them, especially if they control all the guns. But in reality, who actually controls the wealth? Where is it centered? The scripture tells us that the time is coming when the… Read more »

Will
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Will

@USA,RINO’s are useless SOB’s. We know who they are too !

Laddyboy
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Laddyboy

@W: I include Graham and Ole Turtle Neck among others in the RINO camp. Or as of late – Republiquisling = RINO