New York’s Red Flag Law Could be Ironic Factor in Attacking Donald Trump

Will President Trump give “thumbs up” to “red flag law” enforcement if the bell tolls for him? (The White House/Facebook)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Scaramucci: Trump Is a ‘Sociopath’ Who ‘Has Levels of Mental Decline’,” Townhall reported Friday. The unceremoniously dumped former White House Communications  Director was continuing in his quest to destroy a president he once praised. And he had a giant megaphone, courtesy of CNN, to do it with.

Why President Trump ever took “The Mooch” on in the first place baffled those of us who at the time questioned his principles and loyalty.

Anthony Scaramucc is not the first to make that very public case—even leftist shrinks have joined in the public chorus alleging the president is mentally ill. Per Salon, another “progressive” propaganda site hostile to Donald Trump (and naturally, to the right to keep and bear arms):

“Dr. Bandy Lee, who is a professor of psychiatry at the Yale School of Medicine and editor of the bestselling book ‘The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump’ convened a panel comprised of leading mental health experts to evaluate Donald Trump based upon his behavior as detailed in the Mueller report. Their definitive conclusion: Trump is mentally unfit, a threat to the United States and the world, and as such should have his powers severely restricted.”

Unsurprisingly, such “experts” are divided on the “ethics” (and there’s a malleable term of convenience for moral relativists) of publicly diagnosing someone they’ve never examined. If you’re a “progressive,” you can use politics to justify anything, and we’ve got an extensive and relatively recent historical record on the totalitarian nightmare that enables.

There’s a reason why they call us “gun nuts.” (Note many links in that old blog post are no longer active.)

Once again, Donald Trump’s “Take the guns first, due process later” endorsement could come back not just to haunt him, but also to be instrumental in advancing public opinion that the president’s alleged instability presents a danger meriting a big red flag. That’s the kind of infringement “Republicans” like Scaramucci call for, and it’s something gun owner rights advocates have warned the president time and again not to fall for.

Trump may be, as the line from Hamlet goes, “hoist with his own petard.”Because “thanks” to “gun control,” his enemies may have all the ammunition they need to deal a severe, if not a crippling, blow to his presidency.

We know from news reports that Donald Trump obtained a rare (practically impossible for the little guy) New York City concealed carry permit. A separate permit is required just to possess a gun there.

Even if they’re now inactive, they know he’s got guns.

New York recently enacted one of those “due process later” red flag laws:

“A new law in New York will allow law enforcement officials … to seek a petition to seize the guns of people that courts find are dangerous to themselves or others.”

That he’s no longer in the city might stop enforcement and confiscation, but it shouldn’t stop a judgment and order against what was authorized there, and that’s where the political damage would be. New York’s top LEO, anti-gun Attorney General Letitia James has already shown a penchant for being creative in getting attention for herself by going after manufacturers in other states.

Besides, if “the supreme Law of the Land” doesn’t stop them from making stuff up to suit their purposes, anything goes. It’s not like any burden of proof is on them.  “Due process later,” remember?

As a Democrat and close ally of gun-grabbing Gov. Andrew Cuomo, anything  James and he can do to hurt the president is not just a political imperative, for them, it would be personal. And it’s not like they wouldn’t have their pick of Party loyalist judges who would be more than eager to gain more favor and future considerations, and of “progressive” psychiatrists practically orgasmic at the prospect of signing on.

So why give them ideas?

You don’t think Democrat strategists haven’t already thought of this? They’re evil, not stupid.

I’m simply hoping getting ahead of it can somehow help put Republicans on notice that there’s always a danger such weaponized diktats will blow up in their faces—maybe then they’ll stop offering preemptive surrenders like Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham have. And I’m also hoping it can be a wake-up call for the one guy gun owners elected who keeps greenlighting new infringements and won’t even do something simple for them in return like acknowledging the Second Amendment was not “given” by government.

Anyone who believes “gun control” is not political has not been paying attention to the reason governments impose citizen disarmament. Only the ignorant and/or naive actually believe it’s really about “commonsense” or safety. Each edict is about would-be tyrants amassing more power to use against those they would rule.

And each concession takes those who, hell yes, would absolutely take your guns, one “baby step” closer to that monstrous goal. That’s not a lesson we should need to teach those who promised their fidelity in return for our trust.


About David Codrea:David Codrea

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

70 Comments
Most Voted
Newest Oldest
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Sisu

Thank you, counselor. Thespians whether actors, those who would pontificate, bloviators and politicians need such insight and guidance. Hopefully the “staff” of one or more “republican” representative will realized these “Red Flag Laws” also applies to their “liege”. …

Rockman1977

It is so Blatantly Obvious! The disarming of our citizens is only one part of a bigger plan to impose much harsher and restrictive regulations on those of us who refuse to be Sheep! These restrictive laws and regulations are illegal, null and void, they only serve to shed light on those belonging to this Cabal of evil! I was born with Rights and Freedoms that were guaranteed and further protected by our Constitution! I ask you, What purpose is served by stripping a Patriotic Citizen of their ability to protect themselves, their family, their property? Only a Government that… Read more »

Arizona Don

You are absolutely correct. Why more cannot see this is beyond understanding.

It seems to me we are headed toward a civil war but no one, or at least few, seem to realize it.

TheRevelator

@wjd

Exactly what I have been saying.

Green Mtn. Boy

@ Will
I wonder if Trump has a new found respect for Due Process,now that the shoe is on his foot so to speak.

Mack

David,

Thank you so much for this.

I wonder if anyone in the West Wing – or congress is paying attention?

Also David, I think because Trump has property in Florida, he could be subject to a Red Flag attack there as well.

tomcat

Good article, David. You sure got a lot of attention with this subject. I have felt and said several weeks ago that what is good for the goose is good for the gander, meaning that if we are going to get punishment before due process then Trump deserves it as well. Another thing that sticks in my mind is that he may throw us under the bus, in his next term, knowing that is his last run.

Finnky

@TT – No Pence fan, however once we start term with republic president – we will no longer be depended upon trump either. Poor behavior with respect to 2nd could result in GOP getting on board for impeachment.
Most of GOP is afraid of trump’s base turning on them if they oppose him in anyway or anything. While we need at least a semblance of unity though the 2020 election – “leaders” need to be made aware the GOP base cares more about issues and results than about personalities.

Arizona Don

Anyone who knows the history of the twentieth century knows why to not give up their guns here in the United States of America. During that bloody century, the bloodiest century in mankind’s history, over a hundred seventy million people (at least) throughout Europe and Asia (a dozen or more countries) were murdered by their own government after the guns were first registered and then confiscated. Only the government had guns and the citizens were helpless to defend themselves against tyranny. That is what these so called democrats who are in reality either communist, fascists or marxist want for America… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

There are laws that enslave men and there are laws that set men free. Red flag type laws are NOT among the laws that set men free. There MUST be due process. There MUST be penalties for false accusations by civilians and especially for those in law enforcement, judgment and those who write these treasonous laws as they MUST be held to a higher standard. Unless and until these obvious, natural, legal ideals are heeded there is not only the chance, there is the likelihood of violence up to and including the possibility and the probability of a second war… Read more »

gearjammer

So this would include accusers, judges, and swat teams, that under color of law approve and execute an attack on a law abiding gun owner, sounds good, but I just see it as slow erosion of our rights, the old how to boil a frog by slowly raising the temperature of the pot the frog is in. The first thing is to fight like hell before being put in said pot ! We are already in the pot, and the lid is coming next.

Arizona Don

Without due process we will soon be in a civil war because without it we have tyranny.

The other Jim

@wjd, I don’t think Trump is paying attention. He gets most of his news from Tucker, Hannity Ingram, and Regan. Tucker and Hannity rarely if ever talk about the Second Amendment and the right of the people…, and Trish Regan wants all semi-auto’s banned (she said so on her show about 1 month ago, and Fox did nothing).

Laddyboy

@USA; Do you have a link to this rant you are referring to? I agree that anyone who INFRINGES MY RIGHTS given to me by God need to be “red line” monitored if not restricted!!!!!

Mack

I posted links but they have to be moderated.

I would suppose they will appear … tomorrow?

F Riehl, Editor in Chief

Approved: note anytime someone posts two or more links in a comment they get held for moderation, the workaround is posting one link at a time.

tomcat

@USA Judge J is a gun owner. About two years ago someone got into the files and published all the names and addresses of the permit holders in her area. She almost had a kitten and fumed about that for weeks.

TheRevelator

@tomcat

Doesn’t Stop her from being a fudd. Honestly, I’d need to weigh all the facts before I came to a determination, and I did not have time to do that tonight.

gearjammer

They have 24 hour protection and their kids do too, what do they care about your personal safety.

gearjammer

Tried to look up what you said and came up with nothing. What exactly did she say?, I stopped watching all fox shows this year except for tucker, at least he covers some diverse stories, all the others talk shows cover the same topics each day, impeachment, whistle blower, debate about impeachment, debate about whistle blower, and it just starts over every hour, with so many other stories out there I would love a fox show that covers things most have not heard off, for example, California has just banned all trucks bigger then a pick up over the age… Read more »

CaptainKerosene

At some point President Trump will recognize that the attacks on him are just the same as Red lag laws that don’t require any proof and for which there is no penalty for lying.

Doc

New York’s restrictions are bad, but NJ is restricting their own police with when they can carry, how many rounds in their magazines, and what type of ammo. Now the PBA’s are in conflict with the government. I wait for the day that a red flag is firmly planted between the arse cheeks of Kim Jun Murph as he is driven with his cronies into the Atlantic Ocean.

Laddyboy

@W: One exception.
The exception is: IF a person has been found GUILTY in a COMMON COURT of LAW to be WANTON to harm others. This, according to our Founding Fathers is the ONLY reason to RESTRICT ownership of “WEAPONS”.

joefoam

Trump is already being ‘red flagged’ by the resistance, they want to take away his presidency with all the allegations against him and now he is having to prove himself innocent.

gearjammer

I think it would be great if they red flagged Trump and went to Trump towers and took his guns, only then would Trump and the gun grabber gop realize how dump and dangerous red flag laws are.

Mack

See, I think that could actually happen.

SWAT style. With CNN live action coverage.

Mack

USA: Thanks so much! That is who I was thinking of.

What a side show that was.

TheRevelator

@USA

One of those $50,000 dollar Government toilets with the $7,000 dollar seat? Guess they would need help since the idiots in Congress decided to regulate flushing power years back.

TheRevelator

@USA I guess its a good thing I didn’t talk about how they regulate how much power an unplugged Microwave oven is allowed to use. 😛 Good points on the Seals and Lines.. By the way, Don’t we need to adjust for inflation too, and we better figure in for currency exchanges. Perhaps if we get a good deal on taxes for the water going through them The Government might throw in a complimentary roll of poison ivy sandpaper TP with each bowl. Lets just say I have not had a thing to do with electing said suckers for many… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Rev, You make a joke about toilet seats and flushing and someone down clicks you! Someone is dogging you, brother. I am up clicking you to bring you back to 0.

TheRevelator

@Wild Bill Yeah, I’ve known who they were for a few days now. Also knew they were going to other articles and scrolling through all the comments making sure they tagged each one of mine with a negative. What they weren’t smart enough to understand is that it’s not me that is worrying about it, it’s them. I’m lampooning them and they don’t even realize it, so they just get madder and madder when I don’t shut up. Thanks for the upvote, but I really wasn’t concerned either way. I’m fine telling the truth even when it causes some to… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Rev, Someone on ammoland recently wrote, and it may have been you, that we have made public opinion our god. That is saying a lot in one succinct sentence.

TheRevelator

@Wild Bill

If I said something similar, it wasn’t worded directly in that way so I don’t think it was me. It’s been a busy week, with many late nights. I don’t want to take credit for someone else’s work.

I for sure don’t think public opinion is the god that was created. The original sin is still that I think, and that is SELF. Have to get some sleep for tonight. If’n I don’t hear from you before next week, enjoy your weekend.

gearjammer

Their defense will the same as death camp guards at the Nuremberg trials , “I was just following orders”….

Tionico

some states do, illegally, require the one applying for the “Mother May I Card” to “register” the guns that Card will enable the applicant to use under the terms of that Card. California is the worst I know of, in those places where the CLO of your county DOES sign off and issue the Mother May I Cards, the STATE demands that up to but no more than three guns, each listedby make, model, number ON THE CARD, can be used with that Card. One goes into the shop, you can only carry the other two… or change the listing… Read more »

gearjammer

And add “i seee notttthing!!!” as said by sargt, Schullts on hogan’s heroes.

Green Mtn. Boy

The totalitarian Left will tear into his business,family and if he looses his base he will find himself at their mercy of which they have none when it comes to Trump,one might think he would tread carefully.

TheRevelator

@Green Mtn. Boy Yes, but that is no different than most of the other people within the Republican party over the last few years. Because they are in the beltway they don’t pay attention to their constituents because they want to buddy up with folks in the Media and be embraced by the left. Christy, Rubio, McCain, Romney… The list is dang near endless. This is why I’ve been critical of people who say “We can’t hold them accountable right now, we might lose”, and the cycle just repeats over and over without end. Donald Trump has already violated the… Read more »

TheRevelator

@USA
What you just had to say is a very dangerous admission. Hopefully it wont grab all the negative nancys and their little vote button.

Here’s a public plus 1 for that one.

TheRevelator

@wjd

Wanted to give you a full day to respond to the other comments before I responded to this, but here you go.

Who is the obsessed one, Me who is egging the guy on to keep doing it because it is obviously soooooo effective at shutting me up, or the loser who keeps dinging that negative vote button because they let themselves get humiliated over idiotic pride? 🙂

Finnky

@USA – I see the large numbers of effected, but have not found news of looting and shooting. Perhaps lack is due to my lack of googlefu – but do you have references or anecdotes showing rise in CA crime?
So sad that CA has become a 3rd world state.

Greg K

Am thinking a Red Flag on Trump would benefit us all. He’s got deep pockets, and the absurdity of Red Flagging a sitting President with his finger on the button, is hypocrisy on steroids.

TheRevelator

@Greg K

Hypocrisy seems to be a thing going around these days. Mr Codrea has been penning some articles very critical of Donald J Trump that have made some individuals lose their faculties. 🙂

I’m waiting to see how far some of them are willing to take their dishonesty on the subject, especially the notion that the Constitution only concerns them when they decide its appropriate.

Good to still see you here.

TheRevelator

Voting up your comment Greg, seems that someone wanted to punish you since I agreed with you. 🙂 Although, it’s a great piece of evidence to go along with your comment.

Greg K

Makes me smile Rev…have been up voting your stuff for some time. In fact, I have only down voted people, maybe 2 times on this site? Someone has to be so vile that it’s inexcusable for me to do it. All that said, I wear em like a badge of honor. If we are at the point where we are shunned for abroaching subjects that are uncomfortable, then it’s the respondent (I use that term loosely due to the hit and run nature) that needs to search within. It also needed to be said. I’ve even secret squirrel up voted… Read more »

TheRevelator

@Greg K Trust me, I laugh my head off anytime I see a minus one on all my comments going down a page, because not only was I able to fully control and predict their actions, it is a defacto admission on their part that they weren’t smart enough to out argue me and I got under their skin so badly that they lost every last ounce of maturity they may have had. I spoke out against the idea of having the vote button when Ammoland first installed it. It breeds cowardice and vindictive manipulation from people too lazy to… Read more »

Greg K

“It breeds cowardice and vindictive manipulation from people too lazy to show their work.”

This is why I call it an “Ideology Distillery.” Something I would add; It’s pretty hard to champion free speech, when one is habitually down voting (shut up) others.

Your second paragraph could easily been written by myself…Spot on. There are some conspiracy theorists and we just have to take it with a grain. USA makes me laugh some times; some time they throw something out so profound, it makes me re-examine my position briefly.

TheRevelator

@Greg K

There is nothing wrong with introspection. I have to do it myself all the time, forcefully argue against myself and juxtapose my positions, read opposing materials, and look for the truth. Two quotes come to mind. “Iron sharpens iron” and “Know you are right, then proceed”. Glad to hear you are taking it to heart, even if only briefly.

Distillery is definitely a wonderful and apt description for it, and much more polite than the term I use.

Finnky

@GregK – On the other hand – standard of mental stability for anyone “with his finger on the button” should be far higher than that for mere possession of remote paper punches like the AR I once owned.

TheRevelator

Well ladies and gentlemen, We seem to have an elderly baby in the room. Unable to answer why he felt he had the right to decide how other people need to vote, and unable to understand or comprehend how advocating violating other people’s rights of association via voting due to his feelings on the subject is hypocritical when talking about how its wrong for a group of people to violate our second amendment rights because of their feelings.. In the temper tantrum that ensued, this individual has ignored direct questions asking how statements he has made conflict with “Rights” he… Read more »

TheRevelator

Apparently, standing up for the truth is also now “Self-serving” BS. By their own admission in their post, it certainly hasn’t garnered me popularity, is it self serving that way? No. It certainly hasn’t made me any money, so no self service there. The one thing it has done is upset middle aged Male Greta Thunberg clones to get up and say “How dare you!”, which is slightly humorous, but I digress.
If you are not familiar with Valor Ridge, here is a video talking about some questions to consider.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ibdw19168

Mack

Good for you, Will. Exactly what I’ve been saying.

TheRevelator

@wjd Have a feeling you’ll see this and wont be able to argue against it, so it won’t get an honest reply(Most likely you will ignore it because you don’t have an argument), but still willing to put this up for the sake of transparency. So who took credit for your comments, and which comment or comments were involved? Or is this a case of trying to create artificial sympathy for future comments you may write? Need to see what you cite as evidence. See, for many some of your comments now seem to be a flip flop for what… Read more »

TheRevelator

@wjd Really, where and how did you destroy me? Cite a comment, show some evidence. You can’t show evidence, so instead you make a false claim about how you destroyed me? Where? 🙂 I asked simple questions 5 days ago. What was your evidence for attacking an individual for making a decision who they wish to vote for personally, and why do you think you have a right to dictate how someone votes? And yes, I did point out contradictions and inconsistencies. Would you like me to list them again so you can explain each one? Oh wait, let me… Read more »

TheRevelator

@wjd So no evidence, but you think mob rule is the way to go? 🙂 So lets test that theory, since you ignored the second part of the comment in which I showed that is exactly what you would point to. Who is right in the following situation. 100 people show up to talk about gun control. 80 of them vote that it is a good thing. Of the 20 remaining, 2 stand up and quote the constitution “Shall not be infringed.” Both get 80 negative votes, and those out of the 80 receive positive votes from their friends. Out… Read more »

TheRevelator

@wjd Or here is an even easier way of saying it. If the Supreme Court ruled by majority that the Second Amendment is not an individual right, does that make them correct just because they had more votes, or because there is evidence in the Constitution and the writing of the founding fathers is what they say wrong even though they had a majority? See, this is why I hinted that you would point to a mob rule with that particular comment. It was predictable, yet more evidence of your hypocrisy since that was what you called tetejaun and Whitesfyre… Read more »

TheRevelator

Aww. Poor little guy got scared again and had no way to respond. 🙂 Will, you of all people know just how good at reading I am, which is why I can also say you’re smart enough to know responding is not in your best interest. You’ve seen me do this to enough other people to know that trying to argue facts and evidence against me does not turn out good for Will. The problem is at this point all you have are ad hominem attacks, and those don’t phase me in the slightest. On the other hand, the more… Read more »

Ben

Personally really excited for Trump to get impeached. Asking other countries to interfere with elections is highly communist. It’s disgusting. We need a president smart enough to do what’s needed to protect the freedom we have a right to. A president that’s off of social media, and that doesn’t have the maturity level of a 8th grader. Someone who actually understands politics. Trump acts like he’s helping the little guys, but my taxes went up. A lot. Trump needs removed so our country has a respectable leader.

Arizona Don

Oh you mean like hillary did during the campaign in 2015 & 16?

Ben

And just because I don’t like Trump, doesn’t mean I want to suck Hillary’s dick. Hillary is a fucking piece of shit too.

Tionico

and exactly WHICH of the score or so of self-appointed “candidates” now stumping for Trump’s position would you, straight up sober, wide awake, and with a straight face, consider a “respectable leader”? Include the Clinton She Unit in the lot of them, as it seems that beast has been maneouvring behind the scenes since she got soundy trounced three years ago. She’s never let go of her hope to be the first female president. Or even the second. Come on, which one of the D bunch do you actually consider to be “respectable”? Now let’s add “legally qualified” (oops, there… Read more »

Ben

You guys make me laugh. You do realize Mike pence would become president ya?

Ben

And to be honest mate. I don’t know who would be a positive leader for this country. Both sides are corrupt. We need to break the republican vs democratic hate to move forward.

Wild Bill

Where are you from, Ben?

Ben

Western US. But it doesn’t matter mate. You say one thing against anything republican around here and everyone freaks out. That’s a lot of the united states issue right now. No one will consider a different point of view. It’s either their way or you can fuck off.

Finnky

@Ben – You must define “Western US” different than I do. I’m unaware of any part of CA, WA or OR where republicans are that popular. Perhaps you meant “central US”? But then to me – I’m in my first Eastern state here in TX, which is as far east as I care to go.

Ben

?

Ben

You guys are children. I’ll leave you alone.

tomcat

@ Ben, good idea, MATE!