Andy Huebschmann Sentenced to 2 Years for Firearms Smuggling Scam

Judge William Griebach, from, cropped by Dean Weingarten

U.S.A.-( Andy Huebschmann, the former owner of Thureon Defense LLC, has been sentenced to two years in prison for his part in a scheme to smuggle guns and gun parts into Australia. Huebschmann met an Australian, Paul Munro, at an Industry Gun Show in Las Vegas in 2012, according to JS online. Munro delivered a crate with a false bottom to Huebschmann to ship the guns and gunparts to Australia. From

According to court filings, Huebschmann manufactured numerous firearms and firearm-parts for an Australian criminal and gun-enthusiast. These included rifle kits, which contained the component parts for rifles that could function with either semi-automatic or fully automatic triggers, and 1911 firearm frames that could be assembled into completed pistols. Huebschmann exported those items from the United States to Australia illegally, failing to obtain the required export licenses and shipping guns in containers designed to hide the presence of firearms.

While handing down his sentence, U.S. District Judge William C. Griesbach noted the “extremely dangerous nature of the crime” that “called out for punishment.”  Judge Griesbach noted Huebschmann’s considerable cooperation with authorities as well as his low likelihood to reoffend. But those positive factors were overridden by the strong need to deter others from engaging in this type of criminal behavior.

Huebschmann has to pay a $15,000 fine as well as the two years in jail. As this is a felony, he has lost his Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms.

Munroe turned out to be a criminal who was intent on selling the guns illegally in Australia. He is reported to have paid $1,000 each for the rifles and sold them for upwards of $15,000. From

Between 2013 and 2016 Huebschmann shipped Munro rifle kits with parts for semi-automatic or fully automatic triggers, frames and slides that could be assembled into full pistols and other weapons. He did not have export licenses for the shipments.

In one shipment Munro paid $1,000 for each rifle kit and $2,000 for a pack of pistol slides and frames. Australian news outlets report he, in turn, sold the rifles for $15,000 each and the pistols for $5,000 a piece.

Opinion: Huebschmann was likely conned. The rifles had their serial numbers on and the Thureon trademarks. It is likely Huebschmann thought he was selling the guns to the Australian government special forces, for use in “black” operations.  It is a fairly common “false flag” type of con.  One of the reasons I suspect a con was the small profit Huebschmann made on the deal, only a little more than he would have made selling the guns in the United States.

Two years in prison for full cooperation with U.S. authorities, as well as a full confession of what went on, is a very stiff sentence.

Meanwhile, no one in the ATF has been prosecuted for the smuggling of hundreds of guns into Mexico to the drug cartels, in operation Fast and Furious.

The message Judge Griesbach is sending may be the opposite of what is needed. It seems to be: don’t take your chances on a plea deal on gun smuggling. If you are going to smuggle guns for a government, make sure it isn’t a false flag operation. That determination is very hard to do. Andy Huebschmann should have contacted the BATF or the Treasury, right away.

It would have saved everyone, except Paul Munro, a lot of trouble.

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Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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When is Obama and Holder going to be Charged for Smuggling ? aka “Fast and Furious”.


Simple answer, never.

Wild Bill

@Jonesy and Stuck, Then, why not use that criminal course of conduct as a basis for eliminating the BATFE, instead? That would make a great Christmas gift!

Wild Bill

I sent this to DJT, this am: Hon. Donald J. Trump, You could still lose the election absent the support of gun owners. Eliminating the corrupt BATFE would ensure that support, and your re-election. The BATFE was not created by Congress, so you would not need Congressional approval. The BATFE was created by a memo from Sec. Treasuary: On June 6, 1972 Acting Secretary of the Treasury, Charles E. Walker signed Treasury Order Number 120-01 which establishes the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. He did this with the stroke of his PEN citing, “by virtue of the authority vested… Read more »

Wild Bill

I’m sending this to him again today before he goes on Christmas vacation.


This situation could have very well been orchestrated by clandestine elements in both governments. As far as verdicts, punishment and sentencing, these Judges cannot become a simple BOT for Judicial Automation, they must be proactive measuring the merits of any case first by Constitutional standpoint, and stop the Judicial process until 100% compliance, before applying any subsequent written laws. In reality, Our Government has thousands of laws that would and are daily violating the basic tenants of our Constitution. At some point, we almost need every law created outside a strict constitutional framework, stricken from the books, even ones that… Read more »


(Sigh) I’ve been preaching, along with Wild Bill and quite a few others, for quite some time, that the solution to our (gun owners) problems is the repeal of ALL arms laws. Indeed it’s the solution to everyone’s problems except those who aspire to subjugate others and enslave them, in short, Liberals who would lead us down the road to Perdition (Socialism).


And yet the largest security firm faced NO time for losing guns involved in murders Wackenhut seems to be involved in a few Govt. shady dealings. The name just keeps reappearing. They worked on security at our Southern border with Boeing, etc collecting millions in tax dollars. To install cameras & sensors that failed miserably. Could they have been there dealing with Cartel members using it as a front to assist in Fast & Furious ?


Do you know how confusing it is to see Griesbach’s photo under Huebschmann’s name?!