Virginia Governor Sets a Trap for Lobby Day, 20 January, 2020

Virginia Governor Sets a Trap for Lobby Day, 20 January, 2020
Virginia Governor Sets a Trap for Lobby Day, 20 January, 2020

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- Second Amendment supporters face a daunting challenge in Virginia for Lobby day, at the Virginia Capitol in Richmond, on 20 January 2020.  Those who wish to disarm Virginians have created a trap to frame Second Amendment Supporters as violent white supremacists, going to Richmond to destroy duly elected government.

Do not take the bait.

Armed Virginians have been going to the State Capitol in Richmond to lobby to restore Second Amendment rights since 2002. The Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) has been very successful in these efforts. VCDL was instrumental in moving Virginia from a may issue to a shall-issue state in 1995. It has made the shall-issue law better and better by such things as eliminating many gun-free zones and eliminating the requirement for fingerprints to obtain a permit to carry. It has kept improving the state preemption law, to prevent local governments from chipping away at Second Amendment rights.  It has been one of the most effective of the state organizations working to restore Second Amendment rights.

In 2019, a combination of a lawsuit used to gerrymander Virginia voting districts in favor of Democrats, millions of dollars of money spent by billionaires aimed at destroying Second Amendment rights, the influx of immigrants to areas next to the District of Columbia, the successful get out to vote campaign by supporters of Communist China for new immigrants, and the restoration of voting rights, but not the right to arms, to convicted felons, has resulted in the Democrat takeover of the Virginia General Assembly and the Senate, by Democrats who have vowed to impose severe restrictions on the exercise of Second Amendment rights.

Virginians have seen Lobby Day as a place to focus their actions to show how much they oppose the restrictions and violations of their rights.

It seems the opposition, led by Governor Northam, has seen it as an opportunity to paint Second Amendment supporters as violent white supremacists, against whom any action will be deemed moral and legitimate.

If we are to win the war to restore our rights, Second Amendment supporters must win the war to convince a majority, or at least, a majority of voters or judges, they have the moral high ground. The entire weight of the legacy media has been against Second Amendment supporters for 50 years, but Second Amendment supporters have been winning battles, gradually, for the last 30 years. We have organized, built networks, built alternate media, and educated much of the public over that time period.

The provocations by Governor Northam and the elected Democrats seem meant to destroy that progress and to portray Second Amendment supporters as lawless, violent white supremacists.

Matt Bracken has written an excellent essay on the potential for Lobby Day to be used to create a terrible media defeat for Second Amendment supporters. It is worth the read. Bracken lists several ways Lobby Day could be turned into another Charleston, or worse, to discredit Constitutionalists.

The opposition has the entire legacy media on their side. Northam and his allies control the ground at the Capitol. While many of the Capitol police are likely to be sympathetic to their oath and the Constitution, Northam and his allies will have control of the Capitol police. Northam and allies will control all the high ground.

It is known that agent provocateurs have been used by the Democrats to provoke violence, to discredit the Trump presidential campaign in 2016. It is plausible that similar tactics will be used to provoke Second Amendment supporters on January 20th in Richmond. Violence by leftists will be excused by the legacy media. Self Defense by Second Amendment supporters will be portrayed as criminal.

This is ground of the opposition's choosing, where they have most of the advantages. The only chance of winning is a moral victory, where the General Assembly and the outside world are shown an overwhelming presence of peaceful Second Amendment supporters lobbying for their rights.  That can be a difficult goal to achieve when agent provocateurs and false flags are serious possibilities. The majority of the anti-Second Amendment politicians are unlikely to be moved.  The legacy media will sensationalize any violence. They will downplay even massive majority of Second Amendment supporters.

Those who want a disarmed population have been losing. President Trump has appointed 25% of federal judges. A third Supreme Court pick by President Trump could enable the restoration of Constitutional government. The current governing elite is getting desperate. Desperate opponents do desperate things.

Second Amendment supporters who attend will need to be extremely vigilant. This is not a place where an open carry protest is likely to succeed. The law is not clear. A court has upheld Governor Northam's emergency order as lawful.

To those who say, you do not defend your rights by agreeing to allow them to be infringed: If simple disobedience of unconstitutional laws were enough to protect our rights, we would never have lost them.  Many refused to obey. They were unorganized, marginalized, lied about, arrested, prosecuted, jailed, beaten, and killed.

To win, Second Amendment supporters have the be smart, pick their battles, and work hard.

This particular exercise of the rights to assembly and free speech has been turned into a media trap.  All the usual suspects will be there, and they will be actively looking for any incident to smear Second Amendment activists. It is reasonable to believe some opponents will be working to create a violent event.

As a defense against the trap, everyone should be capable of recording incidents during the event. Every thing should be recorded from multiple perspectives, if only to assure accurate portrayals of the events and to have the ability to identify bad actors. The other side will be recording everything. Second Amendment supporters need to be able to prevent them from creating a singular, selective, and false portrayal of what happens.

Extreme measures should be employed to avoid any appearance for the national media to use to smear Second Amendment supporters. At this event, a Second Amendment supporter will serve his country better by taking recorded abuse than by defending themselves. Second Amendment supporters should use every opportunity to defuse any abusive or violent situation.  The opposition will, very likely, be looking to goad a Second Amendment supporter into violent self defense. The action would almost certainly be mischaracterized by the media. They are desperate. They lie without compunction.

If you go, wearing an orange Guns Save Lives sticker will be far more effective than camouflage.  Wearing camouflage aids the opposition at this event.

The more women, children, and minorities who are Second Amendment supporters at this event, the better.

There will be more opportunities for media events that favor Second Amendment activists. The Second Amendment sanctuary county and city movement has been very effective. That can, and should, be built upon.

Only 40% of Virginians voted in the last election. Virginians can win at the ballot box.

Those attending Lobby Day need to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.

Virginians need to show courage,  exercise discipline, and be shrewd to avoid the trap this Lobby Day has become.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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homiegbiotch
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homiegbiotch

So, as I read, the baby killer governor of VA wants to grab guns.
Y’all need to become more active in politics. That guy is the south end of a north bound horse.
Writing this after the lobby day, and the good people that showed up in Richmond did all of us proud by be very controlled, polite, and vigilant.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@homie
Learn about “what” you are talking about.

Most of us have been plenty active, for years and decades. We have been fighting against not just corruption within the parties, but also the apathy and ignorance of sheep who vote based solely upon a letter. Talking down to people who have been doing the work, on an article that has not been active for a month does not help the situation.

Alan1018
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Alan1018

The best defense to provocative comments is to reply Thank you for sharing that with me and then walk away.

Mattseag
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Mattseag

Is it wrong for them to take away our Constitutional rights? Of course. It isn’t going to help if violence is used. Patience and intelligence is key. Violence will only help their cause. They already aren’t thinking logically. If they were, they would be able to recognize that gun laws have already become stricter over time, yet shootings have become more frequent. It’s not hard to see that the laws aren’t holding anyone back. Mental health is the issue. The fact that some people want to kill other people is what is wrong. I would hope that nobody would try… Read more »

Nemo
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Nemo

If government is your God, then this is about political wins and losses rather that what is morally right or wrong in the protection of our natural rights.

Ned2
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Ned2

Lot’s of yahoos on the coments, grabbing their tackle and yelling at the brick wall.
Get a clue. We will set gun rights back 60 years if there’s any violence at this event. We’ll be painted into a corner, put once more on the defensive.
Please have some sense and don’t go to this event; it will only hurt us. Especially if there’s violence and someone gets killed. We will be blamed.

Ned2
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Ned2

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this article, although I wish it had been published a week ago.
DO NOT GO TO THIS EVENT, IT’S A TRAP!

Nemo
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Nemo

With all due respect Sir, I agree with everything in this article until you get to a certain point. You say, “Second Amendment supporters will serve this country better by taking recorded abuse than by defending themselves.” Then you say, “The more women, children, and minorities who are Second Amendment supporters at this event the better.” Do you really consider this wise advice considering the levels of violence you are proposing could take place at this event? Bringing vulnerable and perhaps defenseless people? If my husband took me and my children to such an event with violent-minded people, first, I… Read more »

Will
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Will

@Nemo,Deans an old man and obviously out of touch! Just disregard his useless ramblings. What he’s saying is it’s better to get our asses kicked on video, than Patriots defending ourselves and kicking their asses on video. Why would minorities and kids being in attendance help our cause? It won’t! Dean almost makes it sound like a political rally!

Thomas Dowling
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ALL “gun control” laws (State & federal) must be voided out and removed. They are NOT valid. “No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.” — Federalist #78 Those invalid laws going way back are where the violations began. Those invalid laws going way back are where the compromise began. There is no such thing as a partial RIGHT! It’s ALL or nothing. “The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” — 2nd Amendment (unalienable Right/an Untouchable), Our Constitution Natural Rights Can Not Be Compromised! Everything boils down to “CONSENT”. It… Read more »

Will
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Will

@TD,I know they aren’t valid and you know the aren’t valid. But the gungrabbing socialists don’t seem to have got the memo. Patriots around the country are obligated to see that they do!

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

If Leftists come to cause trouble it will be a political nightmare the Democrats will not likely overcome for many years. Both the Capitol Police and Richmond police will be there, as well as armed citizens outside the “protected” zone. It will be proof-positive that we are not the problem, but part of the solution.

Will
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Will

@Heed,the leftists as you put it have already caused the trouble!

Stonefly420
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Stonefly420

We are no longer in a place/time where we can march peacefully as we have in the past. The extremists are taking over pro-gun events, and they are giving us a bad name. While they are outside playing gijoe cosplay pretending they have some power or authority, we should be inside meeting with legislators. We need to be dressed well, control our emotions, and put forward logical arguments. Dress for church! We also need to focus on distancing ourselves from the extremists. IF we don’t, the left and media will continue to demonize us law abiding gun owners. ON this… Read more »

PMinFl
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PMinFl

I’m glad to see that someone has their head on straight. These “outside agitators” are stirring the pot while remaining hundreds of miles away encouraging arms and insurrection. It can’t go well for those who attend, the establishment has set you up and outsiders are fanning the embers in hopes of what? fame I doubt it as they remain home and are safe.. Maybe they’re not on our side.

tacomuncher
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tacomuncher

I hope that all of you realize that we are in the exact same place as this nation was in 1854. The country equally divided over major issues and the rhetoric and actions becoming more inciting by the day. This situation will never, in my opinion, be resolved in the courts or by elections. The divide is just to great. It WILL eventually be decided by civil war.

Stonefly420
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Stonefly420

you can shove that civil war talk up your butt. Who the hell are you gonna shoot? you gonna attack your neighbor because he doesn’t agree with you on politics? That’s some anti-american, anti-democracy talk you’re engaging in there tacomuncher

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Stonedfly, The Northern liberals in 1861 attacked their neighbors. Libtards are, again, the cause of all this. Those holier-than-thou air heads that would use force to enforce their will on others and don’t see the evil of that will be the first on the who the hell are you gonna execute list.
We know that you are a paid agitator, so enjoy the five buck that I just gave you.

Sgt Rock
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Sgt Rock

Not so interested in shooting a neighbor as we are removing a communist state government from power Stoner. Sic Semper Tyrannus.

Will
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Will

@Sgt,and removing those gungrabbing socialists parasites from office will NEVER be accomplished by pandering to and playing nice. All this take the moral high ground bullshit has not and never will work. That’s only got us where we are now. Decades of that prove it!

Link
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Link

I wonder how many of you big mouth keyboard komandos are going to VA dressed in your camo and open carry your guns. ???

It’s so easy to talk though online and tell others what they should do when your not there.

Remember the anti-gun people have the legacy media on beck and call to make our side look bad at every turn.

If you are willing to sacrifice the cause for a pop and flash you are a fool.

Don’t talk though if your not willing to lead by example.

Will
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Will

@Link,camo and open carry? You’re an idiot! That’s what people will do you moron! I thought you would mention us doing something out of the ordinary. Leave now troll!

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

Buster, Will, and everybody else, There’s something that isn’t being remembered here. This is a VCDL rally and they’ve asked that people NOT wear camo or open carry. Their rallies have ALWAYS been peaceable and they’ve never had problems with the Richmond police. You may not agree, but it’s THEIR rally. If you want to organize a camo and carry rally, feel free to do that and announce it as such. If you can’t abide by the requests of your host, don’t go. That’s simple courtesy. I remember the 60’s real well. There were lots of agents stirring up people… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Link, Anyone taking their empty firearm to Richmond, to maintain their civil rights, should be dressed in a suit, flanked by two lawyers, an entourage of photographers and professional witnesses, and a bail bondsman to the stars.
If one is going to press their Constitutional and Va Constitutional rights, they had better do it right.

Sgt Rock
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Sgt Rock

No camo or weapons, dress in a suit, like you’re going to church. Peaceful demonstration and YUGE numbers.

Finnky
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Finnky

@Link – This is exactly the type of site where foreign (chiefly Russian & Chinese) provocateurs ply their trade. Several posters here appear to be working such a role, or at least have bought the line. US civil war would free evil around the war from their last vestiges of restraint. Quite the dictator’s wet dream.

Buster
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Buster

Lot’s of trolls here – all praising Dean as he advocates a kinder-gentler means of dealing with the greatest threat to ever face America.

Will
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Will

@Buster,you’re right! Deans keep the moral high ground ,and don’t wear camouflage because it might frighten these son of a bitches is the exact reasons we are in this shit! Decades of that Mr Niceguy shit hasn’t and never will work.

Buster
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Buster

@Will We are at the tipping point. America needs the Patriots of Virginia to fire a shot heard `round the world, and I have full faith that they will do just that. We are at war, and we will prevail. It won’t be the first time Patriot blood is shed in defense of Liberty, nor will it be the last.

We have the snake in our sights. We can beat the Hell out of it, but we won’t be finished until we find the snake’s head.

May God bless our efforts.

Will
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Will

@Buster,@USA,”the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants” ! Thomas Jefferson

Finnky
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Finnky

@Buster – You use a snake as analogy for gun control, suggesting that a single mighty blow will yield everlasting victory. That is an overly simplistic and unrealistic view. Maybe you can take a small step forward by viewing gun control as a hydra – there are many heads and no matter how tough you are, fighting alone will not yield victory. For every head you lop off two more spring up. Ulysses was quite the warrior, but he prevailed by being smart. If you bring violence to this fight, I for one will praise the “Jack Wilson” who puts… Read more »

Finnky
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Finnky

@Will – Have heard that many of the enforcers will be in camo. If things get ugly, do you think it wise to risk misidentification as LEO?

Gordo
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Gordo

I agree with all you have said. The root of our problem is the government has allowed states to circumvent or change the constitution to satisfy their views. As long as we allow the states to run rough shod over our Constitution this will continue and accelerate. We have to stop this now by filing constitutional charges against offenders and brought to justice.

Will
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Will

Them cowards in the statehouse will be peeking through them windows shaking in their boots!

JIAZ
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JIAZ

“When you push someone too far, they will push back and they push hard.”
— Rachel Vincent

Will
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Will

When push comes to shove it’s just time to kick ass!

Buster
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Buster

I don’t believe the Patriots are bluffing, and they sure ain’t playin’ games. They’ll be packing real guns loaded with real bullets, and they (the Patriots) have real and valid reasons for being there. The cops, on the other hand, are there simply because some schmuck libtard (who doesn’t have the balls to face down the Patriots himself) is holding a paycheck over their heads. Screw that – cops ain’t stupid. They ain’t gonna take a bullet for a paycheck, they ain’t gonna take a bullet for Northum, and they ain’t gonna shoot civilians in defense of the demtards illegal… Read more »

TEEBONE
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TEEBONE

Dean, you unfailingly write cogent, exceptional articles.

But this is perhaps the most important one you’ve ever written.

Well done.

Will
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Will

@TEE,what part of Deans be on our best behavior and don’t upset the scumbags impressed you the most? Keeping the moral high ground or not to wear camouflage?

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

USA, I agree with many of your posts, but this issue affecting us in Virginia will not be made better by looking like those they direct their hatred toward. Many of us do not wear camo and do not OC or carry rifles – that is not our lifestyle; neither do I have issue with those that do. This event is a public rally, we need to present the best picture of what firearm owners are – all Americans, from all walks of life. We need to be respectful and not incite trouble, doing otherwise will do severe damage to… Read more »

Will
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Will

@Heed,so we should be very respectful,polite,and on our best behavior to gungrabbing socialists scumbags wanting to destroy us and the 2A? Don’t bring Confederate flags(this is Virginia),American flags,or wear camo because it might upset those SOB’s)? That’s what we should do? Taking the moral high ground hasn’t worked for decades but it will this time? No thanks!

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

Will, I am not a Southern by birth, so I do not own any Confederate flags, which, by the way, the ones we recognize as such are actually replicas of the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. American flags would be acceptable as would the flag of the Commonwealth of Virginia, which would be even more appropriate, as the line written on it is very apropos. If you regularly attend important events looking like a lowlife, and that is your best clothing, then wear what you own. If you want to make a good impression, wear more presentable… Read more »

Will
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Will

I bet you’re a big fan of Harolds too moron. You compare the Confederate Flag to low life? Fuck you yankee!

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

Will, no, I am definitely not a fan of Harold. My posts to his columns are proof of that. Furthermore, I did not compare the Confederate flag to a lowlife. That flag, the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, has many meanings to many different people. Some ignorantly assume it is racist or that only “red necks” fly or wear it. Others, more aware of their history, view it as respect for their heritage and the courage that it took to fight for one’s rights. Others view it more generically as a symbol of rebellion. There are numerous… Read more »

Mack
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Mack

Urgent WARNING:

After General Northam declared victory, he AMENDED his ORDER.

Now, if a LEO ***accuses** a person of violating EO-49, he does not have to ask you to leave.

Instead, he can arrest you and take you into custody:

“https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/executive-actions/EO-49-AMENDED-Declaration-of-a-State-Of-Emergency-Due-to-Potential-Civil-Unrest-at-the-Virginia-State-Capitol.pdf”

[ALERT]
E. Pursuant to § 44-146.17 of the Code, violation of this Order shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.

It really is A TRAP.

Buster
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Buster

@Mack It’s not a trap, it’s a death-trap for any cop foolish enough to go to work that day. Best to call in sick.

Mack
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Mack

If want to be sheeple and enter — single file — to the corral, here are the items prohibited: 1. “Firearm” means any handgun, pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel or expel a projectile or missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; rifle, shotgun, automatic or semi-automatic gun; assault firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.2:2 of the Code; machine gun; 3D printed gun; or similar weapon. Firearm does not include any ceremonial firearm currently on display in a legislative branch agency. 2. “Weapon” means any weapon as defined in paragraphs… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Mac, Drones? Drones! How many pounds can be strapped to a drone? Do drones have serial numbers?

Oldman
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Oldman

@WB Any drone large enough to be considered as a weapon and has an owner who is a private flyer has to have the owner’s pilot license # on the drone. Of course, if it is a commercially operated drone that goes without saying.

Will
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Will

@Oldman,what criteria is used and who makes the final determination of what size a drone has to be for weaponized classification? Please don’t say the FAA!

Oldman
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Oldman

The weight of the drone has been determined, by the FAA, to be the criteria for requiring that the drone be registered or not. One can own as many drones as one wants, but each one shall have on it the registration number found on your pilots license. I believe the weight limit is 22 oz. or more. Anything under that and you do not have to have the license. Anything under that weight would not be capable of lifting a firecracker much less any kind of trigger device. Rules for drone flying on public or private property are a… Read more »

Will
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Will

@WB,it’s best to run drones outlaw status.

Will
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Will

@WB,same applies to ham/short wave radio as drones. Don’t use call letters or register shit. Esp.at this point and time don’t make shit easy for the feds.

Mack
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Mack

Take Lobby Day onto the streets. Armed if you want. It’s legal out there.

The streets that are are closed are indicated here:

“https://www.facebook.com/VACapitol2020/photos/a.105542084323077/105542057656413/”

Like civil rights leaders of the 60’s — take it to the streets!

Buster
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Buster

@Mack I disagree. Take it directly to the capitol building and arrest the bastards responsible.

donfranko
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donfranko

All your comments lead me to believe you’re working for Northum and his crew, trying to “rile up” the people and get them to break the law. I hope others can see this too…

Richard H
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Richard H

I agree that they do have the high ground and that violating their “rules” in this case could be problematical. However, how long to we wait and let them continue to violate the constitution without eventually forcing the issue. Once these “laws” are enacted they are even harder to get rid of and can take years to fight them in the courts. It is one thing to say we need to get out and vote these people out but they are now in and proceeding to pass these laws. Voting them out will be too late. If 2000 or 3000… Read more »

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

Richard, the last thing we want is to initiate a violent confrontation, especially with law enforcement. The Capitol Police are not anti-VCDL, they even state that the VCDL is the best group they ever get to the area. Any violence initiated will by by Leftists. Inside the “protected” zone, we will rely on LE to defend those in attendance. Those outside the “protected” zone will not be disarmed. It would be a huge political nightmare for the Democrats if Leftists became violent. It would prove that not only are we not the problem, but actually part of the solution.

Truth
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Truth

I was at Kent State University when students were gunned down – all of them bystanders. What I know is there were agent provocateurs who caused the whole event to implode. Had they not been present whatever demonstrations were taking place would never have led to the deaths of 4 students. One fellow was CIA and was whisked away the next day to the middle east. He was the person who buried a copy of the Constitution in the ground in front of the Liberty Bell replica. One of the first reports was that a single shot from one of… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

Funny thing about traps, you can step in your own. If thousands got arrested and deprived of their constitutional rights, thousands of 18 USC 1983 suits could follow, bankrupting the state of Virginia.
Hell why not make it tens of thousands!

Wass
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Wass

Dean Weinberger, you couldn’t be more clear minded and accurate. The authorities are eager to discredit citizens who want to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, and setting up agent provocateurs (reminiscent of commie tactics) to plant false flags, crossed my mind too, watching the evening news. If there are attendees to the state capitol decked out as you described, be highly suspicious.

Littlejohn1411
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Littlejohn1411

This could turn out to be the biggest false flag event since Vegas. That caged area is ground zero but I guarantee it’s secretly four times that size. This governor is obviously mentally unstable and is so furious that people won’t kneel before him and his demands that he’s gone over the edge and is extremely dangerous. I fear for anyone that shows up to the Capital. The fact that crisis actors are in play, any reasonable person should take this as being a trap very serious. I would also be thinking about the towns, with them being very likely… Read more »

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

Are you saying the people around there are not smart enough to dress for the occasion? I wear cargo pants and a Hawaiian shirt most of the time. However, if I have to go a funeral, jury duty, or any place where what you wear is an indication of respect or gets you respect, I wear a suit, white shirt, and a tie with shined black dress shoes. Want to be taken seriously? Dress like a professional. Want to be ignored? Dress like a hillbilly.

Papa Smurf
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Papa Smurf

Saw last week a film company was looking for crisis actors for Monday in Virginia to portray gunshot victims. I couldn’t find out if the company was real but the jobs to be an actor was so its really strange. Anyone track this down or not. I followed several links and it seems you could apply up until Tuesday of last week. I tried to find the actual hiring company but came up with zero.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Smurf, Where did you read about it originally?

Virginny
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Virginny

I sent a link to Fox News, if this is real, this is a scary road to a totalitarian regime. I have asked that FOX to check it.

Virginny
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Virginny

For a minute or two 🙂 … always like to expand the influence.

Will
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Will

@Virginny,send it to FOX NEWS ATTN: Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson. Tell them Will sent ya and it will be expedited! Do you believe me?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@USA, good intel. Can I have the link so that I can send this around?

Virginny
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Virginny

please disregard this duplicate post.

Virginny
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Virginny

oops, try this – type in the https:// then type www [dot] youtube [dot] com/watch?v=2PeYUBJXpAw

Truth
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Truth

Check Craig’s List as they have advertised on it before. Antifa will be there on both sides of the fence to incite riots. People MUST be careful and AWARE of WHO is standing next to them.

Ryben Flynn
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Ryben Flynn

What would they do if 100,000 armed people showed up?

ShooterOne
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ShooterOne

I think it would be very difficult for the “governor” and his henchmen to do anything but he is dumb enough to try. It would be a very dangerous situation.

Rico1957
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Based on what I’ve read it’s going to be a powder keg waiting to be lit. Recording everything is a good idea but I would hate to go there total unarmed. Monday is a day to be in condition Orange with your head on a swivel. Be ready to bug out, yet be willing to stand up for your right. Every sane person is going to have to be on their best behavior. I guess you have to show your support and take the risk but if your not committed to defending the 2nd Amendment, it would be better if… Read more »

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

Just like Dean’s article, Rico, your most important point you saved for the end of your comment. A 40% voter turnout (and it was probably 60% Democrat turnout and 30% of Republicans and conservatives) allowed this to happen, and similar disastrous election results have occurred all over the nation. Dammit, conservatives, you’ve got to stop making excuses and get to the polls! 124 million gun owners in the U.S. can save our republic, but not if they don’t vote. As to Richmond, if you have sense you’ll stay home and send a fax to your rep. There are too many… Read more »

Unlicensed Bozo
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Unlicensed Bozo

What if no one showed up? Let the courts decide this. No need to get all huffy

JPM
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JPM

You mean the courts, like the Virginia Supreme Court or other courts with judges who were appointed or “elected” by Democrats or who are Democrats? Yeah, that’s a real bright idea.

Merovius
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Merovius

The courts have proven time and time again to be at best, no friends of the Second Amendment, nor the Constitution in general, and at worst, the single biggest impediment to the restoration of Constitutional liberty in this republic. As the saying goes, you cannot solve a problem by employing the same logic that created the problem in the first place. Unless and until we, the people, are given a lawful method of removing politicized, activist judges from the bench, the problem will persist.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

Now’s the time, if you’re not already a member of Second Amendment Foundation, to join or donate. SAF takes people, cities, and states to court including SCOTUS.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

If no one shows up, no one’s rights are violated, and then a there is no case in controversy for the courts to decide.

JaysGone
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JaysGone

Bloomberger and his money bought 3 counties and a Governors office. Let these dimwits write whatever laws the want to. Civil disobedience or even jury nullification at worst comes next. Then in November. The people of Virginia get off their fat collective “it wont happen to me” asses and vote them out. If not in 2020 by 2022. Change the laws back as they should be and alls well again in good Olde Vignny. Fall for his crap on Monday and make things worse. Go protest yell jump up and down. Then just go home. Dont give this piece of… Read more »

Coop
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Coop

Same thing happened in N.Y.. Everyone is complaining now about what our tyrant Cuomo and his Dems have in to gun laws and other laws in our State. We who live in Upstate N.Y. were out voted by NYC and it’s surrounding Dem Counties. Why because ppl DIDN’T VOTE!!!!!!! Now look what has happened in N.Y..

Laddyboy
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Laddyboy

The same scenario is on-going in Maryland. Too many LAZY Americans who will not get off their butts and GO VOTE!!

Will
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Will

@Laddyboy,not voting has been a problem for many years in the Republican Party. People come up with stupid ass reasons not to vote too. Like I won’t vote for Trump because of the goddamn bump stock ban!?! I remember one fool said that not voting is a form of voting! Do you believe that crap? VOTE TRUMP/PENCE IN 2020!

KenW
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KenW

What you post about voting is so true. I registered to vote when first eligible but let it lapse. Then years ago Broward County FL was going to pass some anti gun provisions and me and a co-worker made sure we went and voted against it. I’ve been voting ever since and haven’t missed a ballot.

I actually have a little respect for voters on the other side then for the non voting gun owner.

ShooterOne
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ShooterOne

This is the perfect example for the electoral college.

JDL
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JDL

“In 2019, a combination of a lawsuit used to gerrymander Virginia voting districts in favor of Democrats, millions of dollars of money spent by billionaires aimed at destroying Second Amendment rights…” While the entire paragraph is true, the primary reason that Virginia firearm owners are in this situation is because they did not bother to vote in the elections. Had they voted, none of the excuses listed in the above paragraph would have had any significance. I hope that this is a lesson to firearm owners nationwide that, if they want to keep their rights, they have to get off… Read more »

Terry
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Terry

You nailed that one. No more excuses like “they might select me for jury duty” or other such nonsense! If you’ve got time to go to the range you’ve got time to vote! If you’ve got time to go to a gun show you’ve got time to vote! I could go on forever.

Laddyboy
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Laddyboy

@Terry; I was raised to understand OUR American RIGHTS are always in danger by the BRAINLESS in America. It IS an Americans’ Right – – Responsibility – – – and – – – – DUTY – – – – – – to get out and VOTE for Representative who will cast their votes depending on Americans’ wishes BASED on the Constitution.

PMinFl
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PMinFl

Jury duty is your duty too ! Don’t complain when some scumbag gets off by juries of po city folks who do vote and do let their own criminals free. With rights come responsibilities , citizenship is one of them.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

JDL, I hope it is a lesson, too, but I’m not very optimistic. The last two elections I voted in, I was the only person there, with five volunteers. I felt bad for them, but I was mostly disgusted with the moron hillbillies who live around here. They have big mouths when they talk about how “nobody’s going to get my guns” but don’t bother to vote and afterward talk about how the election was rigged. Yeah, it was rigged alright…by you idiots who didn’t vote.

Finnky
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Finnky

No surprise court upheld gun ban. Judges are politicians, and first rule of politics is to CYA (avoid blame). If violence occurs they and Northam can say “see, we were right – just think how much worse it would have been.” If no violence occurs they say “see what a great job we did by preventing violence at such a volatile event”. Without gun ban they would be blamed for violence, even if armed protesters mitigated events and they could not claim credit for normal people acting normal (peacefully!). Meanwhile mainstream media has already downplayed how many previous peaceful-armed lobby… Read more »

Vern
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Vern

The left has an agenda, they aren’t going to do anything right.

Chuck
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Chuck

So, spring the trap….

Buster
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Buster

@Chuck Exactly.

Arrest anyone/everyone suspected of violating the constitution under color of law. Disarm the LEO’s and arrest any that refuse to stand down. Violence is not necessary.

Put the Sheriff in charge of all law enforcement personnel. He can order all the fed LEO’s out of the state.

Now you have a clean slate.

Patriots have been sparring the rod for a lot of years – it’s time to discipline the unruly child and restore order to the house.

Finnky
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Finnky

@Buster – Where do you get your legal theories? Sheriff has no authority over local cops where they have jurisdiction, has no authority over state LEO, and certainly cannot order feds to do anything.

JDL
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JDL

@Finnky – You are incorrect. The elected Sheriff is the highest ranking law enforcement authority in any county. He DOES, in fact, outrank the local police, state police, and federal law enforcement authorities, and has authority over them all.

JaysGone
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JaysGone

If given a choice even for a traffic infraction. Get a deputy. They have jurisdiction over all most all state law enforcement. They work for you. Not for the state. Except in NY State. For whatever reason. A Conservation cop is the top of the food chain there??

Quatermain
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Quatermain

Sorry to inform you the Sheriff can order the feds to stand down. Happened in Lincoln County Nevada under Sheriff Dahl Bradfield and the feds meekly backed out.

Merovius
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Merovius

Given the blatant disregard for the laws, and the complicity of the courts shown in the past several days, what makes anyone believe that this would, or could, possibly happen?
And seriously, does anyone think THIS Sheriff is going to act on our behalf? http://www.richmondgov.com/sheriff/#.XiMkbFdOlhE
Good luck with that.

KenW
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KenW

When the Feds showed up here in Florida when Zimmerman shot Travon Martin they found out that the county wasn’t going to put up with their BS. Rev. AL found that out too.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Q, If only it were true. Feds enforce federal statutes. County sheriffs enforce state law. County sheriffs have no authority over federal agents engaged in enforcing federal law.
Federal agents are careful to coordinate with the locals in whose jurisdiction they are working. The offices of the Special Agent in Charge (SAC) energetically encourage getting to know local police and sheriff’s office deputies by sight.
In my experience, when there are disputes in the field, business cards are exchanged and telephone calls made.

OBloodyHell
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OBloodyHell

}}} The other side will be recording everything. …And editing it carefully to protect themselves while damning the opposition. Make sure any incidents work out like the bastards did with Nicholas Sandmann. Make sure that any incidents have plenty of video coverage. Set your phones to video record, and put them in your shirt pockets, so the cameras can see everything you face. If you have limited storage, wipe it out every 15m or half hour, as long as nothing happened… or keep video as long as possible, since you never know where it might be relevant after the media… Read more »

Buster
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Buster

Showing up by the thousands and milling around grousing about how bad the demtards are will accomplish exactly nothing.

OBloodyHell
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OBloodyHell

Dude, you seem to think that the military is going to side with the idiots against the Constitution. I grant, some no doubt will — but most of the rank and file will refuse to follow unConstitutional orders.

Buster
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Buster

@USA Yup – the msm will portray anything that happens in a way that supports their agenda.

Virginny
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Virginny

Showing up by the thousands wearing the GSL orange badges will send a strong message to Governor Northam and his cohorts that the citizens of Virginia are in control of their emotions, undaunted by their fearmongering, insist on a conversation with the lawmakers, and maintain our 2nd Amendment rights and Bill of Rights shall not be impinged.

PMinFl
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PMinFl

Should be dozens of thumbs up, great post !

Superman
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Superman

Yup, it was supporters of Communist China that caused this mess. Yeah, that’s the ticket; not the 60% of registered voters who sat on their collective fat azzes during the last election. Notice I said REGISTERED voters, because most citizens can’t be bothered with registering to vote.

OBloodyHell
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OBloodyHell

Dude, it wasn’t people sitting on their asses. The fact is, the state went for Hillary solely on the basis of about 5 or 6 COUNTIES, whose populations exceed that of the entire rest of the state. In particular, this includes the state government (pretty much a liberal haven in EVERY state — including Texas, where Austin is a libbie hellhole) and the counties immediately surrounding DC, where all the federal workers live (go figure). And a comparison of the counties that have signed on as Sanctuary counties to the ones that went for Hillary shows almost literally a one-for-one… Read more »

Finnky
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Finnky

@OhBH – Try not to be too hard on @SM. This has got to be his most reasonable post ever.

JDL
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JDL

Dude, this WAS the reason for all of the Dems winning STATE elections – has nothing to do with a couple of cities. Legislative seats in rural, traditional Republican cousties went blue because conservatives failed to vote – liberal cities had ZERO influence in those elections. Try to keep up, Dude – you are part of the problem.

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

In my county, the county population was more than overcome by a small part of Richmond that was included in the district. The pro-rights candidate handily won in the county, but the votes in the city more than outweighed the votes in the county.

Nanashi
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Nanashi

THE ESTABLISHMENT MEDIA WILL NEVER LIKE YOU! PERIOD!

Thinking moderating yourself will somehow make you look better to an establishment media that openly seeks to destroy you and openly fabricates evidence is the peak of retardation. All disarming does is show the Governor has power and allow these bad actors free reign.

Quatermain
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Quatermain

The worst anti 2A false flag yet was Las Vegas, not Charleston. I completely expect an incident at Richmond and have since I heard how it was going to roll out. Vigilance is indeed needed but so is the resolve to go hot if the occasion demands. There will come a point where we have to use 2A.

Alan in NH
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Alan in NH

I just read that ANTIFA fascists are planning to attend in large numbers. They love their guns too except they want to start trouble. They will be the ones wearing masks and they will be armed.

JDL
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JDL

Thanks for not helping – it’s lazy folks, like you, making excuses that created this mess.

PMinFl
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PMinFl

wow killers on the loose, must be California. Still fishing too.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

Make your position known by sending a fax (email is too easily ignored) to your rep, noting that threats to 2nd Amendment supporters make it too dangerous to attend. Also fax a copy to the local news.