U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “The people are tired of Moscow Mitch’s deadly obstruction,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared in response to the Milwaukee brewery murders in a tweet that has since been taken down and replaced with a longer statement citing “universal background checks” as some sort of solution. “A year ago, we took action in the House to save lives. Every day that he and the Republican-controlled Senate refuse to act, 100 Americans are killed by gun violence.”
Since so little information was released at that time, how any citizen disarmament bill floated by Democrats would have had any impact on saving lives is left unsaid. And that’s intentional.
Michael Bloomberg, the bodyguarded gun-grabber who almost let slip that he had “bought” Pelosi, was quick to slam President Donald Trump and call for “background checks,” per CNN Politics.
Bloomberg’s “seed money” venture, The Trace, wasted no time exploiting the killings to push its agenda. “True” to its journalistic “ethics,” the report aimed at disarming those of us who behave ourselves, was co-written by the “daddy issues”-plagued flack whose father was a mob hitman.
And Vox, ignoring that correlation does not equal causation, played to those who don’t think things through and tried to tie the killing in with Wisconsin Republicans rejecting disarmament laws that ignore due process. That’s hardly a surprise — being disingenuous about guns is SOP for those guys.
We still don’t know much about what laws (besides the obvious) the lunatic may have ignored. Reports citing the police say he had “two handguns, one with a silencer,” but do not mention their “legality.” If his suppressor was owned in accordance with the rules, Pelosi’s background check argument goes out the window. If not, background checks won’t stop black-market transfers anyway. And can you imagine the field day the antis would be having had he used a quote/unquote “assault rifle”? One with “20, 30, 40, 50 clips in a weapon”…?
What deterrents may have been in place are unknown (by me) at this writing. Per Molson Coors Employment Principles:
“Workplace Security Molson Coors is committed to maintaining a workplace that is free from violence, harassment, intimidation and other unsafe or disruptive conditions due to internal and external threats. Security safeguards for employees are provided as needed and will be maintained with respect for employee privacy and dignity.”
How they meet that commitment is unclear. Especially since the facility’s “No Guns” policy was ignored.
When I started gathering links for this article earlier today, his identity had been unannounced, and that was just revealed as I was writing this. That fits right in with what I blogged last night before going to bed, nothing prescient, just a realization of the way these things always seem to be handled:
It’s been hours and we still haven’t been told who the killer is? No doubt any social media accounts will be shut down before we do, meaning we will be entirely dependent on “authorities” and “Authorized Journalists” for information and unable to find any dots for connecting on our own.
Lo and behold, once the killer’s identity was released, we’re told his photo was “taken from a family member’s Facebook page that has since been removed.” Yet despite what appears to be an attempt to bury relevant background information, it was internet sleuths, not “Authorized Journalists,” who uncovered an Elizabeth Warren connection.
The first thing that’s obvious is we’re not talking about one of those “white right-wing nationalists” we’re constantly being warned are the greatest threat we face. If the killer had been one, and if he had social media posts brimming with sentiments that allow “progressives” to dismiss anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders as a Nazi, it would be headline news. It certainly would not have taken this long to release who he was, and odds are good some of his more egregious posts would have survived, at least in screenshot form. As it is, the victims are being blamed for racism, and that’s in spite of a corporate “code of conduct” policy that is now being alleged to work every bit as well as its “security safeguards.”
This in itself is dangerous to freedom. By hiding his identity until they’ve got their ducks lined up, and by ensuring his internet tracks have been swept to only release information supportive of the narrative being told by “the authorities,” our ability to glean public interest information, which is needed to be informed, self-governing citizens, is diminished and effectively deprived. If our only source of that information is the government, disseminated and amplified through its media mouthpieces, our system becomes no more credible or any less manipulative and tyrannical than China’s or Iran’s.
When that’s the only information out there, demagogues like Pelosi and Bloomberg can say whatever they damn well please without fear of being contradicted, or at least given a reality check. That’s the stuff that influences public opinion and finds its way into legislation with real-world effects on our freedoms.
I’m not sure what the solution is, but it’s one I’d like to see made part of a wider conversation. One can make the case that some information should be withheld pending notification of family members, and other information is temporarily suppressible because public dissemination may have an impact on police investigations, criminal proceedings, national security and the like.
That said, there ought to be a way to find out more about such freaks without government automatically putting their backgrounds on lockdown. Questions about what kind of causes and candidates a killer identified with are unquestionably relevant, not only to protect innocent parties from being blamed and smeared, but to keep political opportunists from circumventing the truth, exploiting ignorance, and imposing more infringements. Significantly, they can only get away with that when key facts are suppressed by those whose mandate should be “to secure the Blessings of Liberty,” and to enforce rights as well as laws.
About David Codrea:
David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.
This story disappeared in a hurry. Of course, the shooter was a black, union member and probably a Democrat. Not good for the leftist agenda.
Propaganda used to be something socialist, communist, tyrant and terror run countries did to their “subjects.” It is sad to see national news falling to that low although we have come to expect it from them and politicians, legislators, judges, lawyers, enforcers and their financiers these days. Until we know the truth of the situation, all we can really say is5 people have been murdered.
Seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
Arm up, carry on.
OK, there is no distinction. The “socialist, communist, tyrant and terror run countries” you talk about embody themselves here in the form of the Progressive New Left. They absorbed all of the worst traits and ideas of the Warsaw Pact and far eastern totalitarian regimes and now present them in sheep’s clothing to unsuspecting Americans. That is were we are as a society. The Democratic party was targeted by former SDS and Weatherman Underground types 45 year ago. They now own that party.
Sad to see the MSM solidly in te hands of the communists.
@Gentlemen, Who would pick up a rifle on Yackup’s behalf? I would not dial 911 on his behalf.
Some of you guys just think to much about another guys ass..
Funny thing is I read online the night it happened who the killer was and saw his picture. The next day I had to do a pretty good search for that same information.
As far as knowing what motivated the shooter, I know all I need to know to discern the facts about that. It’s not the first time and it won’t be the last.
The arguments for gun control do not make sense, but then Democrats don’t possess common sense or any other kind of logic.
I’m tired of hearing the same bullsh*t stories of second rate, 1 job having, get rich off US citizens, politician wanna be leftist. Each of you has already made it VERY clear that you want to take away our RIGHT TO PROTECT OURSELVES. I don’t care what else you say or your talking points. It’s just white noise now. I DON’T HEAR YOU! FAce it, what you really should say is YOU DON’T WANT ME YO PROTECT MYSELF, MY FAMILY, AND MY FELLOW AMERICANS FROM YOUR TYRANNY! Plain and simple. You’re losing power and the only way for you to… Read more »
@Dan – Can we find a gunsmith willing to thread their heads for suppressor mount? Pin and weld suppressor on, not only will it muffle their noise, but they will be arrested (and destroyed?) if they venture back into their extremist home states.
Looks like the story went away already, with the exception of 2 that were about the shooter’s family and another naming the shooting victims, all the rest are 2 days old, some do not mention he was Black or what firearms he used. Just 51 year old (name) who worked at the company for 15 years.
The incident did not fit the Left’s agenda of a white man with an AR15.
Given the Democrats’ propensity for useless and irrelevant action in response to tragedy, as well as their fondness for ideas that have failed in the past, they should consider that this happened in a brewery. Maybe it’s time for Prohibition 2.0? I’ll bet Bloomberg could get behind that. This time, they could include 16 oz sugary drinks, Big Macs, and M&Ms, too.
dont forget the Skittles…….
We have Mr. Trump{ President} because of people like you
In every case of multiple shootings that I am aware of the facts, when they finally come out never support the popularly supported common sense solutions foisted upon us by well funded leftists and a compliant and uncritical press. These events are the result of a complicated series of minor errors in dealing with someone who should have been under a due process based restraint. But the facts in detail do not fit the narrative. Far to many in our populace simply want the sound bite, the easy answer and refuse to invest any time in being informed. The best… Read more »
@nrringlee – you forgot quotes around “common sense.” Optionally just quote sense…
Believe it was Mark Twain who said “common sense isn’t”. No matter how you parse it, it works.
I generally refer to “common nonsense” gun regulations. As a rule they are more intrusive, more theater and less effective than TSA.
yu mean, the same TSA who FAILED to “catch” 95% of handguns hidden in carry one luggage orupon the persons of the “testers” who were checking to see how effective TSA are at FINDING “illegal guns” that will end up in the cabins of airliners? Yes, they MISSED 95% of the test planted guns. I’ve seen numbers for how many personal handguns get discovered and confiscated by TSA as they screen passengers. IF they are always as effective as they were in finding the test guns, it would indicate that they “missed” noneteen times as many as have been seized.… Read more »
“Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
Dylan Thomas (The Original “Dylan”)
24/7/365 because I am my own first responder.
Just a lib troll trying to get someone to agree with him. Fake news reporter maybe? That’s about their speed too.
Overcoming the constitutional restraint of the Second Amendment is priority number 1 of VERY POWERFUL GLOBAL FORCES that have a plan for the future of the world that very much includes disarmed/unarmed citizens. The US democrat party works for/is part of, these forces. They will stop at NOTHING to force their agenda. Proof is their constant attacks on President Donald Trump, who’s election DELAYED their victory. Clinton Supreme Court Justices would’ve been the end of Second Amendment restraint. Open borders would’ve been the end of our Constitutional Republic. THEY WILL MAKE “PUSH COME TO SHOVE”. In the end, it will… Read more »
That is the scary thing, right, “In the end…the will of free American Gun Owners” will prove the answer. We, the 100 million gun owners in America, have allowed the continuing ‘INFRINGEMENTS’ on our “God-Given Rights” of self-defense by ANY appropriate means. Those ‘nibbles and bites’ over the past fifty-odd years have REDUCED our ‘Liberties and FREEDOMS!’ As far as “the next generation of Americans even caring,” once again, ‘WE’ have allowed our schools at nearly every level, but especially that vaunted HIGHER educational one, to INDOCTRINATE our children instead of TEACHING them ‘how to think’ that now millions believe… Read more »
@Firewagon As long as people think that simply voting for a party will save them or act as a shield to protect their rights as they abdicate their own responsibility for safeguarding them, then yes this country is headed for a very destructive or bloody reckoning. It could have been avoided, and there is even still a very slim chance though it is unlikely, but the majority of people chose to stop actually paying attention to the constitution and simply engage in a “Us vs Them” political party shouting match. Compromises and concessions in the hopes of getting a party… Read more »
The sooner the better Rev.
@USA
There are many who talk about the constitution on both sides, but ignore the plain text. Instead they attempt to justify only the parts they like as necessary, and violate other parts according to their whims.
The Constitution is meant to be read the same way as the Bible, as one complete document that cross references and backs itself up in spite of how much time passes(It is not a living document).
@TheRevelator – “…It is not a living document.”
THAT right there is the fundamental difference between leftists and strict conservatives: leftists see the Constitution as a “living document” which is subject to re-interpretation according to the whim of the day. That undermines the very essence of having a written constitution as the supreme law of the land.
As I have said elsewhere, leftists cannot be tolerated as fellow countrymen. Their entire raison d’etre is to subvert, abolish and replace good government with communism.
@wjd Flatt
” leftists cannot be tolerated as fellow countrymen.”
That in itself is a leftist rationalization. We either have free speech, free thought, and self determinization or the argument of violating the constitution for the same “Good Reasons” that tyrannical or totalitarian minded make. Namely “Safety”.
Government which mandates acceptable thought is never good government.
No it’s not a leftist rationalization. It’s a propertarian argument. Leftists can be free to exercise their speech, etc., – they just shouldn’t do it here because if there is no peaceful separation, then they will impose their beliefs and practices on everyone else by whatever force they can bring to bear. They are the ones who violate free speech, they violate the nonagression principle (NAP). This has nothing to do with “safety”; I don’t know where in your mind that is even a point of debate. And I’m not talking about government even. I’m talking about the organic grassroots… Read more »
@wjd Flatt “I’m talking about the organic grassroots action of the people.” lol… So a mob of people? Might makes right? As long as enough people get together to silence someone in a public space that makes it ok??? Gee that sounds just like ANTIFA in Berkley CA, showing up to shut down right wing rallies. It’s a point of debate for me because I wont commit the same evil that the left attempts to justify its actions with. If the left wishes to try and force their view against us then they will be in the wrong. If you… Read more »
No, I’m talking about the will of the people, not a mob… but you go ahead and defend the commiecrats and all the evil they do. You can twist what I’m saying all day but that doesn’t make you right. Your pigheadedness is why I think others are downvoting you.
@wjd Flatt Except what you are saying isn’t right, you are WRONG. Which is why you couldn’t quote the constitution and instead are trying to spin any excuse you can. Its not the will of the people which defines Rights… Rights come from our creator, not the will of our fellow citizens, or do you disagree with that statement? The left makes the argument that if they have enough people vote in agreement they have the authority to ban or confiscate guns from law abiding citizens because it is the “Will of the people”. Now you know as well as… Read more »
@wjd Flatt (Part 2) I’m challenging you here and now Will Flatt, and based on your actions the last few days I don’t think you can do it. The challenge is simple. Answer the simple questions I have already asked. 1. Do you agree that individual rights come from our creator,? (Yes or no) 2. Do you agree that people’s rights are not to be violated just because a Majority votes to do so? (Yes or No) 3. Can you quote anywhere in the constitution where Government has the authority to mandate acceptable political thought to it’s citizens? (Yes or… Read more »
MY answer is this: I don’t have to do what you say. So EABOD. Commies are cancer, PERIOD. But I actually agree with what you’re saying. But the government has nothing to do with the fact that Americans are sick of commiecrat lefties in this country violating NAP and weaponizing EVERYTHING to force the rest of us to do as they want. Even if we ‘gave them’ everything they want today, tomorrow that won’t be enough. At some point, the Right will put their foot down and respond to leftist infringements with absolute force and blinding fury. And the Constitution… Read more »
@wjd Flatt lol That is the difference. I didn’t demand that you do what I tell you. I simply challenged you and let you make the choice. I already knew you wouldn’t be able to answer those questions and would dodge doing so. THANK YOU FOR PROVING WHAT I SAID. You would have been better to know what you are speaking of before you say something. So you want to accuse me of not knowing John Mark…. Well, fine except you have zero evidence and that is only your opinion. But guess what, I have an ace up my sleeve.… Read more »
@wjd Flatt
I’ll even throw in a handicap for the John Mark challenge…
A time limitation for myself to find the article by.
I have to locate it and reply it to you by this Sunday 11:59PM, otherwise I have to write you a public apology and put it up on ammoland and stick to it even if I can prove that it was there as of last year afterwards.
What do you say? 🙂
@TheRevelator – Actually I did answer, my agreeing with you, but I knew you would take the bait and make a challenge out of it… but that’s the kind of bait I don’t take. You want to make this a pissing match where you can show the whole world how you’re always right and anyone you disagree with is wrong, and my roundabout answer actually drew you out into my own well-laid gotcha. Thanks for that, and with this post I’m done here. And I’m done with you.
@wjd Flatt It takes more than saying you agree with me, when your actions do not match your words. So you wont accept the challenge, even though you stated falsely and without evidence that I don’t know who John Mark is? On one thing you were correct. It was bait, because I already have evidence which shows what you said was not true. On the issue of Propertarianism, the fact that you came back after me saying “I was referring to Curt Doolittle” after I had already cited Curt’s webpage in the comment you were replying to, that right there… Read more »
@wjd Flatt Now here is why your actions do not match your words. The entire reason this whole argument started is because you stated the position that some people based on what they think or voice support for do not qualify for equal protections under the Constitution, and must be physically kicked out of the country so that those who were left can be “unoppressed and free.” Here is what happened. 1. You stated that it was their belief and statement of support(Speech) for ideas that meant their rights shouldn’t be observed, as opposed to a direct physical action which… Read more »
There you go again putting words in my mouth and declaring what my ACTIONS are when you havent seen me let alone what I am DOING. I’m not talking about what people think or say, but what they are DOING. You are engaging in ‘friendly fire’, and as such you’re now on the wrong side. Everything that your critics are saying about you are being proven correct. Therefore you have talked yourself into the position of being a HYPOCRITE and a LIAR by stating things I did not say/do. Like I said, I’m done with you. You are now free… Read more »
@wjd Flat Those were your words. And yet again, all you can do is attempt to toss out a “I know you are, but what am I?” defense. So here are some direct quotes from your comments. This is what you said originally. Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/02/below-the-radar-blair-holt-firearm-owner-licensing-and-record-of-sale-act/#ixzz6G178ioJ1 Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook “All those criminals called Demorat politicians and every last one of their supporters & enablers need to be physically removed from our country, for the rest of us to be free and unoppressed.” It was not just leveled at actual… Read more »
A meme wont shift your failures onto others Will Flatt… But if it makes you feel better to have them here, then here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUMVHD86jF0
First, let me be clear that I am NOT a racist and I do NOT hate black people! However, it is becoming quite clear that many black men are incapable of exercising any self-control whatsoever. One only has to look at gun crime statistics from Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, Atlanta and Houston to understand that when a black male becomes angry for whatever reason, he often resorts to gun violence to “settle the score”. Black on black and black on white assaults with firearms are above 85% in the cities previously mentioned. High on the list are drug related… Read more »
In regard to my post above: Taking guns from law-abiding citizens WILL NOT change the criminal behavior of those who resort to gun violence for whatever reason. It will only make law-abiding citizens more vulnerable to being injured or killed by armed criminals.
KDad – Or make law-abiding citizens criminals, when they decide not to comply with an unjust law or faced with a life-threatening decision, they will have to make concerning their families welfare
@wjd The stats are like that in large part because the liberal/socialist left has worked through organizations to destroy and tear down the black family. This is what it has devolved to over the years as a result. There are some who are waking up though, who are challenging “Woke Culture”, the lie behind Planned Parenthood, and how entitlement programs have hurt the black community. If you haven’t heard of Patrick Wooden Sr., you should look up some of what he has been preaching about. There are those who are not tolerating the line from the media about Racism holding… Read more »
@TheRevelator – Absolutely right about Planned Parenthood. 52% of all black pregnancies end in abortion. This because PP founder Margaret Sanger, a eugenicist who inspired Hitler, wanted to use abortion to genocide all blacks from America. And PP is joined at the hip with the Demonrat Party, joined in the goal of killing the babies EVEN AFTER THEY’RE BORN (INFANTICIDE).
How right you are Dr.Willy. This is why the black population is in decline and their numbers are dropping like a rock. Can’t even remember the last time I saw a black person, where have they gone?
You need to quit hording Willy, share and send some over here..
Your incoherent rambling benefits no one. I spray you, begone!
How many times has a government lied or changed the facts about history. To bolster their egos, flex the muscles, smile as they do it, write it down in books as though it were the bible, to be learned by our youth, as lies. As in ancient times, passed down from elders to the young, will the truth be told.
I’m calling BS on your “story.”
And I’m not a “psycho” either.
Black crime wasn’t really an issue till LBJ crammed the black community into the cradle-to-grave welfare culture with a promise to “…have those ni##ers voting Democrat for the next 200 years”. Once blacks became dependent, they broke up black families by mandating that women couldn’t get welfare with a healthy male capable of getting a job being in the home. Without positive role models and a system mandating dependency and locking an entire segment of society into poverty, and with public schools dumbing down the curriculum and not teaching as they ought to, it’s no wonder that black males have… Read more »
Yes Professor Willy. I learn so much about your sense of compassion. You seem to be a positive roll-model for any race, who would have you. Do you drink, smoke dope? The Dem. party will keep stirring the pot and feeding it to you, a spoon full at a time, until you puke. The times we live in.
Leftists like you like to accuse conservatives like me of being without compassion. Subjecting children to your leftist agenda is child abuse. Protecting them from it IS the compassionate thing to do. And while I’m not a regular drinker and don’t smoke anything at all, I ask, what the hell does that have to do with anything?
Your incoherent, feelings-based, fact-free rambling just lowered everyone’s IQ for having read it. Go home to mommy!
“The facts, ma’am, just the facts.”
Associated article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikemyatt/2013/03/14/the-facts-maam-just-the-facts/#322e9658ed3a
Another one of your great stories to thrill and amuse us! Just how much time – and money – do you spend at those weed shops that are now legal in CO? Is that how you get the incentive to write some of your more amusing posts?
So you assaulted a cop who was “sneaking around” on your property with no warrant and no uniform? Did he forget to identify himself or show you his badge also? I sure hope he learned his lesson.
You need to cut back on the weed or whatever it is you indulge in that brings you to your fantasy world.
Not a troll. Just someone who finds you, and some others, to be complete morons. You really need to move out of Mom’s basement.
Moe, out in Phoenix Az. there are/were home invaders who actually had on police uniforms, badges, weapons, radios etc. for years. Just because somebody looks like or says they are cops means little. Trees are known by their fruit. If somebody talks like, walks like, has the equipment of a terrorist, home invader, cartel street thug you just might have the real deal. Lots of people think it’s some kind of macho thing to take a human life. It’s not. If it can reasonably avoided, it’s wiser to do so. That fence around my property, that locked gate, the windows… Read more »
Respect is the most important word in any language. All life is precious. There comes a time when every important lesson you have learned in life, will be put to the test. Hopefully with a lot of common sense one will walk away.
@USA – Is there really a difference? If they are engaged in criminal behavior, they are criminals.
I can think of a few minor differences: cops are almost certainly armed, have at least rudimentary training, and have less compunction about killing. Add to that that they have numerous compatriots eager to enact revenge. None of those differences change the nature of their behavior, but may change how you have to deal with it – while raising the stakes for you.
Is that You Vlad aka James Campbell? If not. Sure sounds like the same Socialist Liberal Snow Flake. I’ve seen on other Freedom First websites.
Amen Brother!
You sound more like some of the southern bible-thumpers I’ve had to deal with. You use the 3 most respected letters in society, is this to prevent retaliation of some kind. I know of others who hide behind the American flag, thinking they can let the shit spew out and not get their ass-kicked. Who’s calling names now?
I will not argue the statistics mentioned above in KDad’s piece, but I will say that I have lived in rural America nd just outside Atlanta. I have lived near Chicago, rural Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, Georgia and Kentucky. I am white and have friends of different races. The black people I know do not condone the killings in the big cities any more than I do, they own guns and worship God the same as I do. KDad, I do not believe you are a racist, but I do believe the media pushes that agenda. I do believe the big… Read more »
Spot On, Stone
I have read your post twice and just now realized what didn’t jibe the first time around. You wrote, “The black people I know do not condone the killings in the big cities any more than I do, they own guns and worship God the same as I do.” While that may very well be true, here is the difference. Those same “black people” that you write of will not and do not in a public fashion, as a whole or even as a majority, condemn those Blacks doing the killing in the cities. They just don’t. Years ago I… Read more »
@RoyD – Is it there job to control other people who happen to have similar skin tone? Blaming them for behavior of others is similar to the left blaming all gun owners for all “gun violence”. Do see the difference in that we condemn misuse of firearms, however I’ve had to defend myself more times than I care to count for not having the end-all solution – after all as a gun owner they see it as my responsibility…
The real problem is fatherlessness.
And I got hemorrhoids from it.
GANGS. It isn’t just that black Americans only comprise a small percentage of the population yet seem to account for a large percentage of crimes and make up an unduly large percentage of prison populations, _its that only a small percentage of black Americans are responsible for so much of those crime statistics._ Organized crime, a sophisticated nationwide network of illegal drug peddling GANGS, all full of repeat offenders living out their daily criminal lifestyles in & out of prison, and engaging in endless deadly warfare with shockingly high body counts against all the other constantly warring gangs, over territory… Read more »
I too Willy, have never used the “N” word.
Once they entered your domain, their asses were yours. Should have just flipped the switch and lights out. You have the right to protect your family and home from any invader, by any means. To late in the game to teach these A-Holes respect, the only way they will learn is for them to read or see on TV were their “Home-Boys” got burped, by a peaceful loving family person’s wife or mother, and their kids were standing over the bodies asking Daddy if they should do a “double-tap” on the invaders bodies. Stories with an ending as this will… Read more »
@OneEyeOpen – In @USA’s story the goal was defense of family and property. He acted with restraint, resulting in a better outcome than if he followed your advice. Just how well would his home be protected while he sat in jail awaiting trial? Justified or not, use of deadly force has ramifications but killing has far more. Spewing things like the above, almost insures that if you are ever employ deadly force – your ensuing trial won’t go well for you. You have made it clear that you are blood thirsty, looking for opportunities to kill, and do not believe… Read more »
He just pulled out his big white dick and beat them half-to -death.
When the cops are piling up the dead bodies, they can ask them if any were treated without respect. A district attorney once said, it is easier to close a case, if you do not stop shooting until your gun is empty, as many police officers do. He said; the last thing you want is the “PERP” is testify against you in court.
“Attempting to police the socialist trolls is futile.”
And as evidence of that, look at how successful we’ve been at removing them from these pages at ammoland.
Trolls never die, they just fade away… to be replaced by the next sock puppet. Plenty of letters left in the alphabet. 🙂
I didn’t mean to infer success. Just that attempting to police trolls is futile.
“You can’t serve papers on a rat baby sister. You either shoot ’em or leave ’em be.” -John Wayne as Rooster Cogburn
quote: “Republican. The party that wishes to make sure the equal treatment of minority’s and will assure them to have jobs right next to you at your place of work.” Yup. That’s MY party. Anyone who imputes value or worth on any individual based solely on his ancestry is someone I would NOT want to be forced to work with in any endeavour. You are stuck on one of Saul Alinsky’s most vile Rules for Radicals… divide into factions, set factioins one against another, you WILL destabilise any society when this is common. Your thinking and values are part of… Read more »
Mr. Codrea:
Thank you for another great essay.
At some point, the mainstream media as it is now constituted needs to have their press pass revoked and let them compete as a blog site like the rest of their competitors that they disparage daily.
Get CNN out of the airports and let’s see how well they compete under the rules and tender mercies of the marketplace.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has an alarmist headline: “Keeping shooters out of factories can be nearly impossible, security experts say” This article is so biased against self-protection, it’s offensive. The ‘reporters’ quote Steve Albrecht, who puts down personal protection: “There are so many unknown factors with concealed-carry because, when the police show up at the shooting scene, how do they identify the bad guy? That can be a huge challenge,” Albrecht said. Another issue is whether the person charged with providing protection has the necessary training. “Having the ability to kill another human being in protection of the lives of… Read more »
In 9 out of 10 times, LE is only there to clean up the mess. To defend yourself during these first few critical moments, you have got to do it yourself WITHOUT putting yourself at the mercy of the shooter. LE in these types of cases, LE personnel are usually nothing more than street sweepers. 9 out of 10 times they could show up in Bermuda shorts and peashooters, and still be just as effective.
“There are so many unknown factors with concealed-carry because, when the police show up at the shooting scene, how do they identify the bad guy? That can be a huge challenge,” Albrecht said.
I got the answer to this question. By the time the police show up, it’s almost always over. The good guys and gals would have long re-holstered their weapons. One of the survivors will point to a body on the floor, and tell the police, “That one.”
@Jacob – A new low, even for you.
80% of the people in my team at work are immigrants or descended from people from Africa, India or Asia. None of them give cause for concern.
You on the other hand would be the only person I ever reported to HR. Would request exception to companies firearms policy be granted to every CHL holder in the office (at least 10%] and that they provide armed security next to our receptionist.
You are clearly deranged and need to seek help.
Nah, he wont be “seeking help” because when he’s properly diagnosed and handled, he will cease being useful to his Sugar Daddy, and his paychecks will cease to arrive weekly.
It’s the same story everytime there’s a shooting. Cops suit up, show up and can’t do a thing because all the gun laws didn’t work. Gun free work places are the perfect environment for nut cases who cannot or will not comply. The laws stupid politicians and bureaucrats enacted are as useless a fire department showing up after the building burned down. People who kill people are the problem. Politicians who disarm honest Americans are to blame.
This is a good article about the need to spread information far and wide about these things. Unfortunately, some on the 2A side have been saying that the “cause” of mass shootings is press attention being given to the shooters and that such information should be suppressed. The need for an informed public outweighs the theoretical risk that the next nutjob is going to be motivated by the last nutjob’s manifesto. Are they “right wing” are they “left wing” or are they just insane and incoherent? We don’t get to know unless the “authorities” decide to inform us and that’s… Read more »
@Rick, You write, “The need for an informed public outweighs the theoretical risk that the next nutjob …” You are half right. The MSM reports only the facts that push their agenda. What we need is a fully and truthfully informed public.
In some ways initial reports sounded like this guy was emulating Virginia Beach shooter. Black former/disgruntled employee with a grudge, two pistols, one with a suppressor. Expected to hear that pistols were 45s – guessing they are not so doesn’t support evolving “next step” of banning handguns larger than 9mm (making up last part – but do expect it, paralleling Brazilian gun control) Certainly both shootings will be used as justification for additional suppressor regulation/bans. Haven’t courts ruled that 100k is enough to qualify as “common” while there are something like half a million suppressor tax stamps? Wouldn’t that justify… Read more »
quote: “It’s 2020. Can we please get over the Jesus and magic man in the sky!? ”
If Jesus is only a “magic man in the sky” it is because you have no clue who He is. Or why He came. You have two choices: continue in ignorance, or find out who He really is, which is NOT what you think.
Yes, its 2020, and He is still with us as He promised. Get over it.
Shooter: Anthony N. Ferrill. Age: 51. Race: male, black. Reason for murder spree at the Moulson-Coors Brewery? Long running dispute with murdered co-worker. I used to work security just right up the road at the now defunct Pabst Brewery. Never ran into anything like this. What stunned me most about working there, is that employees had beer stations all over the place that they were free to drink from anytime they wanted so long as they, wait for it: didn’t kill anybody because of it.
These facts make it very easy to see how and why “conspiracy theories” are created and evolve. To me, this is simply another deadly “gun-free zone” bloodbath that can be easily avoided. It’s time to go on the offensive and start pushing to eliminate these disastrously insane gun policies which obviously do not work. Another great piece David, thank you.
Typical news. Not reported that the KILLER was fired and and allowed back in The KILLER was in a “gun free zone” safe from resistance. The KILLER wasn’t white. The KILLER didn’t care about the law. The LAW only deterred the victims. The real reason for “gun control” is furtherance of SOVIET revolution. Gun control was and is always racist. But around 1900 the leader of the FIVE POINTS GANG who had been elected to office by “intimidation (?) wrote a law intended to issue permits to his gang and associates and deny guns to rivals and victims.. Tim Sullivan’s… Read more »
According to the latest article I can find (Friday, 28th) the company confirmed that Ferrill was not fired as some older articles were reporting.
https://journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/racine-man-who-survived-molson-coors-shooting-shares-what-he/article_b04b6321-94f0-55d5-83c2-69b1f7178bc9.html
Amazing that you can get a down vote for passing on something that you have no connection to. But considering some of the assholes that inhabit this site, it’s not unexpected. Oh, well. I won’t lose any sleep over it!
Amen
Free speech. Whine, whine, whine. …
Whine, whine, whine.
Free speech, same as 2A. Bo-ho, who?
Do you know what a hermaphrodite is Willy? We use to call them “HERMS”.
If you agree with my post, spread the word.
The 1939 MILLER Court said the people ( militia ) were to have military weapons. The militia was expected to rally with their private arms.
That is why so-called assault weapons are under attack. Your AR is not a Modern Sporting Rifle, it is a Militia Standard Rifle. Sure, you can shoot groundhogs, varmints, bullseye targets with it as well as defend your home and property.
But is necessary to keep Congress on the straight path the Constitution lays out.
We will probably find out the shooter is a long time member of the democrap party. But regardless of the identity a note to the “Little Twerp and Pig-Losi”. If gun control worked then the democrat controlled cities e.g. Chicago, Baltimore, LA etc would have love ins instead of killings. When are these MORONS going to realize people killing people is culture at its worse?
Nothing worse than a dirty Cop
No matter how good your point, beginning a statement with a racist word ends everybody’s reading your idea.
What was it you said after jig? Are we going fishing? Frog spearing?
I thought he was going to mill an 80% lower but read just a little more and realized he was clueless.
“The party that wishes to make sure the equal treatment of minority’s and will assure them to have jobs right next to you at your place of work.”
I’m pretty damn sure I’d rather have one of them (or anyone) next to me as opposed to having you there.
Jackoff337- I’m 67 years old and have never heard either the term ‘wigger’ or ‘oil driller’. I can imagine that you don’t mean it in a positive way. I spent my formative years working for Mr. Nixon. I was shoulder to shoulder with people of all different colors. Some of them were the worst I’ve ever met – some of them were the best. The common factor we all shared was that we were all scared shitless. This is a situation that brings out the worst and best of people. A lot of the worst were the same color as… Read more »
Jacob; I am alive because of and live for that magic man in the sky — JESUS. If you live a dozen more years, you are likely to see HIM. Live or die Sir, you are going to meet him. This nation is founded upon sound, righteous Judeo/Christian commandments, laws, precepts and mandated no matter what you may have learned in school. Can you imagine what the world would be like if EVERYONE LIVED THE TEN COMMANDMENTS? The golden rule? The two greatest commandments? “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” I take… Read more »
The shooter is not a white supremest using an AR or AK therefore it doesn’t fit the narrative.
Yakkup, I can’t recollect when Republicans took over control of Chicago. Can you enlighten us all when that was?
Ok People… Sad as it is to say, Will Flatt, who has usually been good on a great many issues, has made a bona fide liar out of himself. Apparently, it is his belief that he may without evidence accuse someone of an action and mandate its authority, then turn around and accuse that same individual of doing what Will Flatt himself did. “You want to make this a pissing match where you can show the whole world how you’re always right and anyone you disagree with is wrong, and my roundabout answer actually drew you out into my own… Read more »
@wjd
Thanks for the downvote without a reply, or any evidence to counter what I said and presented over the last few days.
@Gentlemen, Two of our best troll squashers, quibbling between themselves when there are so many arrayed against us. I don’t know what this is about. Probably boredom. I have, however, brought you both back to zero.
Now, that we are all zero’ed, lets get back to the troll hunt.
@Wild Bill I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. I bear no ill will and I will not hold a grudge. I will simply call out what is factually correct, and call out what is factually wrong. The individual involved however has allowed himself to devolve into the mentality of a petulant child to the point he is following me around just to target my comments. 🙂 He no longer replies though, since he got called on it by someone else who is connected to ammoland after he cried about it publicly. I have a laugh over it,… Read more »
@Wild Bill
And the lack of the response there should tell you all you need to know about the other individual involved.
Thanks for trying. Maybe someday.
“Troll Hunt!?” What’s the tag cost for that? Oh hell, I’m in no matter the cost. What’s the rules? “Three commie comment minimum, with an unusually high ‘Foe Tag draw system?”
@Greg K
It’s an unrestricted hunt. No bag limits.
All you have to do when filling out the tag is cite the lie or hypocrisy. As long as you can show proof it’s legal.
I will say that I wonder sometimes about how much some of the posters may have had to drink or how much of other substances they may have consumed before posting some of the things they do. Because if it is not due to that then the alternative is that they are just batshit crazy.
@RoyD
Indeed. It’s a part of human nature, and if you are a bible reading man, something which has been with us since the apple.
Doesn’t stop it from being heartbreaking to see happen over and over again on a historical repeat track.
For the sake of full honesty and transparency, I did want to follow up on this and post some evidence I promised. The issue at hand for this comment was that Will Flatt made a direct lie about me involving whether or not I knew of a Youtuber named John Mark. “you never answered MY questions and I can tell you didn’t check out John Mark; you’re shifting sideways on this.” ~Will Flatt I offered a challenge to him to back up his statement. He instead chose to attack me and claim I was arguing my opinion in hopes of… Read more »
And the butt hurt individual who cannot argue against evidence has shown up once more to downvote, and avoid putting up a reply which he knows wont do him any good. 🙂
The “People” are the ultimate defenders of the Constitution. The “People” are the Militia. The God-Given rights of the “People”, affirmed by the Constitution, shall not be Infringed. The democrat party is the biggest domestic enemy our country has ever been threatened with. Trump, 2020!
All I’ll say is that you’re one of the most despicable people I’ve ever encountered. I hope you have no children to further your bloodline. But if you do I sincerely hope they all get sterilized. Voluntarily or not. The world doesn’t need more people like you in it.
@USA
Yep, and the state auto accident rate went up after it was legalized to boot.
Sad to see what has happened to my birth state.
But they continue to let buzzers who have been busted, for what now, 8 – 14 DUI’s until they kill someone or a whole family. When is alcohol to be put in the same level playing field? .
It’s the drinkers, dope smokers are to laid-back to flip someone off.
When they do release information on the shooter, everyone screams to not immortalize the shooter by releasing their information, when they don’t release information, they’re infringing….
It can’t happen both ways
Its not the arrow, its the indian. Its not the “realease of information” it is HOW it is handled. WHen the perp is held up as an idol or celebrity, as the murderers that killed their fellows at Columbine, were for weeks after, that brings pressure to encourage copycats, which happened in that case. But when information is suppressed, as in this case, then government can manipulat,e paint, recolour, skew, massage, sanitise, the “available information” to suit their own ends.. much like Pugliugly did with her above mentioned first nasty tweet. I want to know some things about the killer,… Read more »
Sure it’s not one of them drunk-driving, liquored up – beat your wife type states?
Is that double-chin fat piece of work a cop? Who the hell would hire someone, that looks as bad as he does? If this is what the pool of perspective employees act and look like, someone’s in a world of hurt.
OK… As sad as it is, It seems that a little education is needed for some people. Apparently there is a conception that if a term happens to sound catchy that it can become a talking point and therefore be thrown up as a shield against criticism in lieu of documented material to back up a position. What am I talking about? “Propertarianism”. What is it? Where did it come from? First of all, it came from the English philosopher John Locke’s writings in part, but it is the name taken by former/current libertarians who see the libertarian movement as… Read more »
For those wishing to talk to me about “Propertarianism”, learn what it is before you try to throw it in someone’s face. “It means a body of inviolable law, a constitution built from it, and a system of government that restores, and preserves it, and the uniqueness of Western Civilization for eternity.” ~ https://propertarianism.com/ In case that is a little hard to figure out, that means our Constitution should be followed 100% of the time as the guidelines of preserving inviolable law(Unalienable rights) no matter what excuse you feel necessitates its violation for safety. And for those who are offended… Read more »
Funny how quickly they shut up and just down vote when they realize they cannot quote sources and lost their argument. 🙂
I dont know who’s downvoting you but when I refer to propertarianism, I am referring to the more recent work by Curt Doolittle, as championed by John Mark. I’m also partial to Hans Hermann Hoppe and his work.
@wjd Flatt Why do you think the site I quoted directly from was Curt Doolittle’s own website? Yes, I am Familiar with Doolittle’s work. As to who was downvoting like a butt hurt crybaby last night, I do know who it was, and no it was not you. It’s the same individual who when he gets upset he will look for every comment the person who upset him has made and give it a downvote no matter what it says. It could say “I love my mom” and nothing else, and he would still downvote it. If you want a… Read more »
@wjd Flatt
Right there is some evidence for you. Same guy who just downed me, and upped you. That’s him… 🙂
Same guy who in the past made the argument on two occasions that a mob outvoting a viewpoint is proof of the view being wrong even if evidence shows otherwise.
And my claim that he downvotes everything? I quote Curt Doolittle’s site, use the words that he has on that site.. Doesn’t matter. He still does it. Whole lotta salve needed in TX….. lol
Are you talking about all those things we forget to include as our “Property?” I.E. Our Conscience for example?
@Greg K The right of Conscience is one of the unlisted rights connected to the First Amendment that falls under “Free Exercise”. But even though it is not included by name, it would still be covered by the Ninth Amendment as well if the First was not sufficient. It is slightly different to the “Intellectual Property” which would fall under the Fourth Amendment, though in many ways is very similar as choice can be thought of as such. At least that is what I perceived to be the path you might have been thinking of by how I read your… Read more »
Don’t remember where, but years ago (like 30) I read about some of the “Properties” we forget, or have been taught to forget about. The conscience is the first one that popped into my head, because I watched a video by KrisAnne Hall a few weeks ago and she talked about it. There are others though. When I get a chance I will dig into this Propertarianism thing.
Liquor is quicker. Love them beer gut coach-potato’s. Wonder when the last time they saw their pee-pee..
@OneEyeOpen
What was that other post where you were talking about how important respecting others was?