Coronavirus is AIRBORNE! Are You Not Being Told the Full Truth?

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USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- “COVID19 IS AIRBORNE! President Trump MUST immediately shut down all commercial airline traffic. Every airlines flight puts all passengers at significant risk of being infected precisely because all it takes is one infected person onboard a flight to infect others, just as the infected man on the bus in China infected others. Likewise, all public trains, buses, and subway systems should be shut down for the same reasons.”

The bureaucrats are failing us, yet again.

A U.S. level 4 biological lab has now confirmed that the Coronavirus (COVID19) is an airborne (aerosol) virus. This was also confirmed by a Chinese medical study that researched an actual case of airborne spread on a public bus (see below for details).

And yet, the CDC, HHS, and White House Coronavirus Task Force have all failed to say ANYTHING about this!

This means that COVID19 is so small that it can be expelled in an infected person’s breath and linger in the air for at least a half an hour, as both the U.S. and Chinese studies confirmed, and while suspended in the air, it can infect other people who then breath that air in, inside an enclosed space (like a bus, airplane, train, subway, office building, school, church, car, personal home, etc), and it can, therefore, move from room to room in air-conditioning units (such as inside a nursing home, office building, school, cruise ship, hotel, etc), and likewise infect anyone who breaths it in. A flu is NOT airborne, and can transmit only in droplets in sneezes, coughs, or left on surfaces. This is one of the reasons why the Coronavirus vastly more contagious than a flu, It is airborne, like other highly contagious viruses such as measles, tuberculosis, and smallpox.

As Fox News reported:

“A new study suggests that the novel coronavirus COVID-19 can remain in the air for up to three hours, and live on surfaces such as plastic and stainless steel for up to three days.

The research, published in the medRxiv depository, also notes that the virus can remain on copper surfaces for four hours and carboard for up to 24 hours. The research found it could stay on stainless steel and plastic for anywhere between two and three days.

“Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV-19 is plausible, as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for multiple hours and on surfaces up to days,” the researchers wrote in the study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed.”

The Chinese medical study analyzed the case of a Coronavirus carrier who infected other passengers in a bus who were up to 4.5 meters away from him, and the virus lingered in the air inside the bus even after the infected man got off the bus. A passenger who got on the bus a half-hour later was infected – proving that the virus can linger in the air inside an enclosed space for at least a half-hour. As the South China Morning Post reported:

“Hu Shixiong, the lead author of the study who works for the Hunan Provincial Centre for Diseases Control and Prevention, said the security camera footage showed patient “A” did not interact with others throughout the four-hour ride.

But by the time the bus stopped at the next city, the virus had already jumped from the carrier to seven other passengers.

These included not only people sitting relatively close to “patient zero”, but also a couple of victims six rows from him – roughly 4.5 meters away.

They all later tested positive, including one passenger who displayed no symptoms of the disease.

After these passengers left, another group got on the bus about 30 minutes later. One passenger sitting in the front row on the other side of the aisle also became infected.

Hu said the patient, who was not wearing a mask, was likely to have inhaled aerosols, or tiny particles, breathed out by the infected passengers from the previous group.

Aerosols are light-weighted particles that are formed from tiny droplets of bodily fluids.

“The possible reason is that in a completely enclosed space, the airflow is mainly driven by the hot air generated by the air conditioning. The rise of the hot air can transport the virus-laden droplets to a greater distance,” said the paper.

After getting off the shuttle bus, the initial carrier got on a minibus and traveled for another hour. The virus jumped to two other passengers, one of whom was also sitting 4.5 metres away from patient “A”.

By the time the study was finished in mid-February, patient “A” had infected at least 13 people.”

And yet, U.S. Government officials have completely failed to even mention this reality or to advise that public mass transportation, such as airlines, trains, subways, or buses be shut down.

Frankly, we have known that COVID19 is airborne for over two weeks, as we first published in our written warning on the Coronavirus on February 28, 2020. In that write-up, we cited two public health officials in China stating that it is airborne, and a Singapore newspaper quoting the Singapore Ministry of Health sting that it is airborne. We also posted up a video of the Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO) stating in a press conference that the Coronavirus is airborne. And yet WHO has also not made this part of its public recommendations on how this virus spreads or how to avoid becoming infected. See below.

COVID19 IS AIRBORNE! President Trump MUST immediately shut down all commercial airline traffic. Every airline's flight puts all passengers at a significant risk of being infected precisely because all it takes is one infected person onboard a flight to infect others, just as the infected man on the bus in China infected others. Likewise, all public trains, buses, and subway systems should be shut down for the same reasons.

Frankly, we find this very frustrating and disturbing. It is highly unlikely that the CDC was not aware of the reports out of China and Singapore that this is an airborne (aerosol) virus that we referred to back on February 28, 2020. it is likewise unlikely that the CDC is ignorant of the Chinese study of the airborne spread on a public bus, that was published in Chinese media on March 9, 2020.

But now that it is being widely reported in U.S. media that an American level 4 bio-lab has done its own study and concluded that it is indeed capable of being spread as an aerosol that lingers in the air for up to a half an hour. What else will it take for the CDC to change its recommendations to the American people, or to elected officials? What will it take for the White House task force on the virus to take decisive action by advising the President to shut down all domestic air travel? Or to warn the American people to stop using mass-transit? Or to recommend that all schools be shut down, since it will also spread like wildfire through a school just as easily as on a public bus?

Don’t wait for the bureaucrats. You must decide on your own to avoid all enclosed spaces, and especially while traveling. Stop flying, stop riding the subway, stop riding buses. And do all you can to avoid being in any enclosed public space with other people.

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Knute
Knute
6 months ago

Not if you know it’s coming. But poor old Kyle Meyers thought we were still a Country with the Rule of Law. Bawahahaahaha…. I’ll get the laughter under control eventually. 🙂
Meanwhile here’s a good video of him learning about the way things REALLY work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-UlDWetxQc

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

Whoops! This is the one I meant to post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ3YazQEuzw

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

Knute, That’s really good news. i wondered if he’d ever see daylight again. OTOH, he did something stupid to give them an excuse to catch him. He KNEW they were after him.

Knute
Knute
6 months ago

Agreed. But at the end of the day, he believed we’re still a country of laws, and so did I at that age, so I can’t really fault him for being misinformed, because we all are.
OTOH, I feel that I CAN fault the authorities for: deception, lies, extortion, blackmail, outright theft, and countless other high crimes.

The other Jim
The other Jim
6 months ago

I’m almost out of toilet paper. Can anybody spare any?

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  The other Jim

Nope, its all gone. Know why? Because now whenever one sheep sneezes, all the others shit their pants! 🙂

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax
6 months ago

USA, You might want to re-think that hemp seed additive. Remember what happened to FPS Russia. Hemp is Marahoonie, and the 4473 has something to say about that.

Knute
Knute
6 months ago

But that example isn’t really relevant. Once the feds send a VIPR team to take out your business partner, they will get you too, one way or another. If you are breathing, that will be enough to put you in a cage over.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

@DIF, Yeah, I read the “cocktail” recipe twice and did not see the whiskey. So out with the milk, banana, seeds, granola, orange peel, and cinnamon AND THEN REPLACE with three fingers of Jack Daniels. Here’s to your health!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

@OV, That is what coyotes and buzzards are for! But first comes the interview: “Hey you! What are you doing here? What kind of help do you need? Well… did you ever vote democrat?”

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Or… DO create cover, but then IED it! My favorite trick… booby trapping cover. I like to see how many boobies I can catch in one go…

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

That is where I got it from. I’ll take advantage of any good idea I see. I could care less WHO thought of it, I won’t cut off my nose just to spite my face… but I do know many who will. :-).

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

@OV, Well, a few went to Congress!

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

I won’t stand for you insulting coyotes thataway!! No self respecting wild beast would go near that cesspool! 🙂

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

, Touche!

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Happy to be the straight man…
I like “libtard” for the same reason.
Don’t you dare compare liberals to retards. My retarded acquaintances are offended! They refuse to be bungled in with such lunatics!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

, I stand corrected!

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

I’m even half serious there. 🙂 My first ex-wife used to work at a group home and I’ve known many real retards, all the way down to the lowest functioning. I’m sure you’ve noticed that I treat people as I would like to be treated, even the trolls. Well, it goes for retards too. If you treat them like they’re an actual human, they will latch onto you like a lost puppy. It must be a rare event in their sheltered lives. Anyway, I’ve even had conversations with the higher functioning ones, and told them stories about the outside world.… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

, Yes, they do, and that is reason enough for me to adopt the name Chinese Corona virus, from now on!

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Will, I’d agree except for one thing. With the exceptions of Ebola and HIV which came out of Africa, Darn near ALL of these problems come from China. Unless we discover CIV (Camel Immuno Virus) I expect them to continue coming form China. We know where CIV will come from.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

@DIF, Good humor, the best medicine!

Quatermain
Quatermain
6 months ago

Half of all Wuflu admissions to the ICU in the Netherlands are now under age 50 according to Zero Hedge

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Quatermain

Belgians and Niederlanders are notorious libtards. They are ruining Europe. So, the Chinese Corona virus could not happen to nicer people.

Dactylographer
Dactylographer
6 months ago

This article confuses the technical terms airborne and aerosolized. Airborne refers to an item capable of maintaining itself in the atmosphere. Some bacteria and viruses may be able to. Aerosolized refers to a material that may be breathed or spit into the atmosphere and then follows a ballistic curve to the ground. Consider it this way…a bird is basically an airborne creature. It may launch into the air and maintain itself there until it looks to return to land. A human that takes a literally running jump off a high bridge will fall to earth, following a ballistic curve determined… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Dactylographer

I believe that airborne means carried by air. At least that what the guys of the 101 and 82 said.

Jim
Jim
6 months ago

Another Democrat inspired “word trick.” The use of racism on everything to help cut back on freedom of speech. Want to see REAL RACISM in action by real racists in our government–then why do we have a Congressional Black Caucus in our Congress? According to Democrat rules, black folks cannot be racists. Oh sure!

Jim
Jim
6 months ago

Regarding the article sub title–What the hell is a “human bus?” Now I am scared.

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Jim

It’s a “Hunan bus”. A bus in Hunan, China.

Terry
Terry
6 months ago

This still would not confirm aire born. Easy enough these folks could have touched the door frame or handrail getting in or off of vehicle.

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Terry

I highly recommend to read the scientific medRxiv article by US scientists that is cited above: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf. It has ZERO to do with a guy in China on a bus. This is from the US lab study: “We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel.” “Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV-19 is plausible, as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for multiple hours and on… Read more »

Quatermain
Quatermain
6 months ago

Strictly from a biological / mathematical perspective this is going to be devastating. The virus is going exponential in spread and death rates in Europe now. Unless that replication cycle is broken it will continue to do so. I am amazed at the normalcy bias in otherwise intelligent critically thinking people. Get right with God and go to ground if you possibly can.

StWayne
StWayne
6 months ago

Everyone talks of the Corona-virus like they’re going to survive it. I know they wouldn’t be saying half the things they do if it came for them. Or their family. Now that it has been proven to be airborne, my fear is that President Trump will test positive for it. He, after all, has been treating it like it’s a hoax. The Spanish Flu was only as virulent as it was because of the politics it entailed, and how those politics came gift-wrapped within the economy during WWII. We are no better prepared to do what it takes to get… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  StWayne

StW, What do you mean that the president has been treating the Chinese Corona virus like it was a hoax? As to the Spanish flu, it was WWI, and medicine did not know what a virus was in 1918.
The current coalition of private industry, medical scientists, the Federal Reserve, and the Trump administration is an unprecedented cooperative effort, led by DJT, to prevent the spread, develop therapies, and save the economy. This country and the world have never seen a coalition like this in the whole history of mankind.

JPM
JPM
6 months ago

So now we’re all jumping on the Corona virus scam crazy train? Got your TP yet? Give me a break. Do you actually believe everything you read, see on the TV and Social media or hear on the radio, or that the government puts out? Really? Are you the same guys who prior to this condemned the media and the government for putting out lies and misinformation? Now they are credible sources? No wonder this country is in such shit shape. This panic was created and only sheep are playing the game and going into panic mode over something that… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  JPM

, While all that is true, this could wake Americans up to the necessity of being a little more self reliant, in the face of the Chinese threat. The Chinese are setting us up for failure (through dependence), when they make their move to dominate world affairs.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

@OV, Yes, and I see that the POTUS is begging people not to hoard food and other logistics, so that there is enough for everyone. I say piss on the libtards that bought drugs for recreation instead of storing up for a rainy day. Well it is raining and looks like it is going to rain harder for a while.

JPM
JPM
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB, Agreed.

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  JPM

COVID-19 is twice as infectious and 30 times more deadly than the 1918 Spanish flu. That calculation already considers the advanced state of healthcare today in comparison to 100 years ago. Unlike the flu, we have no vaccine or antiviral drugs for COVID-19. We will, in time. In the meantime, we have about 3 hospital beds per 1,000 Americans and their occupancy rate is already high during a normal flu season. We will run out of hospital beds quickly in the next few weeks, just like Whuhan and Italy, if we don’t slow down the spread. Who knew that the… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
6 months ago

@CF – Your name certainly suits how this virus is being treated by many including our government. Trump seems more concerned with making look like nothing is wrong than with sharing information. For “the most transparent administration ever” to classify all governmental activity around CV-19 does not raise confidence. Government rounding up supplies while telling us we don’t need to worry, suggests that we should be concerned. Taking easy precautionary steps to reduce exposure and strengthen immune system is not panicking. Buying out all of walmart’s TP OTOH sounds like panic and recognition of how poorly prepared most people are.… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

@Finnky, It DJT lets out the plans, then greedy bastards like Soros and Bloomberg will take unfair financial advantage of the plans.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

@CF, Thirty times more deadly? Only if you are over 90. Where do you get your information?

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Agreed, in the haste of writing my post, I mixed up some of the numbers. Also, the view on these numbers has changed slightly. COVID-19 is twice as infectious and 30 times more deadly than the seasonal flu. It is quite comparable to the 1918 Spanish flu, likely worse. Again, the comparison to the 1918 Spanish flu is based on statistics and not based on biology, so it already does consider the advanced state of healthcare today and the increased risk of infection due to more travel today. Realize that the case fatality rate depends on how well a healthcare… Read more »

JPM
JPM
6 months ago

The real numbers and facts. Is the sky blue in your world?

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  JPM

For people who do not understand the concept of exponential growth, it is difficult to grasp the real numbers. You are comparing 1-year data of the seasonal flu, for which we have some immunity, a vaccine that works to some extent, and, most importantly, antiviral drugs that work, with 3-months of data of the coronavirus for which we have none of these things. Italy has run out of hospital beds. People with severe symptoms will no longer have access to ICUs and ventilators. The current case fatality rate in Italy is 46%. This is nothing like the seasonal flu. It… Read more »

Doszap
Doszap
6 months ago

Airborne by coughing,1012′ for a distance of 15′.

OlTrailDog
OlTrailDog
6 months ago

I was rather shocked to see this debunked Chinese propaganda “study” featured by Ammoland. Get a grip folks and stop being a tool. Why do you think the Chinese refused to let outside health organizations analyze the Wuhan flu?

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  OlTrailDog

This is a US government lab study and has zero to do with data coming from China: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf

JPM
JPM
6 months ago

Sort of like the CDC, the same government guys pushing gun control as a public health issue?

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  JPM

You may actually want to read the link I posted. This is a government-funded scientific lab study by NIH, CDC, Princeton and UCLA. Unlike those gun control studies that hide the data they used for their studies, this is REPRODUCIBLE science. Just don’t believe the unscientific crap added by the Oath Keepers to frame this scientific study to further a certain agenda. This is still a free country. You are free not to trust scientific studies. This particular study has not been peer reviewed, because peer review takes months and by then the study is a useless post-mortem view of… Read more »

Tionico
Tionico
6 months ago

NIH, CDC, FDA, WHO, are all deep in bed with the companies that produce and SELL at very high profit, the vaccines. Thjey WANT to raise the fright quotient, and make everyone clamour for the “vaccine” they are working on. To SELL…… I’ve worked enough ‘studies” to know almost any desired outcome can be “arranged”. OFten in ways so subtle the eaverage layman will be fooled into trusting the “study” and “conclusioins.” Sorry, this is not a kill the virus now” situation.. it is a “repair our compromised immune systems NOW” situation. CDC, WHO. FDA, big Pharm, NIH, all would… Read more »

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

“Those flu virus are over half of them corona virus strains.” Again, influenza virus and coronavirus are two different virus families. You are confusing the flu (influenza virus) with the common cold (coronavirus).

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

@CF, What science said fifty years ago, we laugh at today. Cigarettes are good for you. Glass is a fluid. Coffee is bad, eh good, eh bad, eh good for you. Etc, etc, etc.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

, Had I known that “they” would not make it anymore, I would have bought ten cases of the stuff!

Tionico
Tionico
6 months ago
Reply to  OlTrailDog

This “bus study” has to be some sort of fraudulent sick joke. If they KNEW the one guy was “hot” WHY was he allowed on the bus, and to remain on that bus, for FOUR hours, with NO mask? NO ONE in their right mind would have watched all this happen, KNOWING it was happening, and sat there mute. Further, HOW do they know passenger G, sitting X metres away, got it from the air? Or even got it? He COULD have contracted a virile dose of the virus as he made his way thorugh the terminal and lines and… Read more »

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

The Swine Flu is not a coronavirus! It is obviously an influenzavirus.

As for strengthening your immune system, take vitamin D!

Jackk
Jackk
6 months ago

Opinion is one thing. But complete Dis-information is another. This article is irresponsible and you have some social responsibility for even publishing! I was considering joining, but do not want my name associated with something like this!

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago

An airplane is not a bus! The total volume of air is replaced by new/outside air in an airplane every 4-6 minutes. That’s 2-3 times faster than in an OR. Stop mixing scientific studies with unscientific nonsense! The biggest source of infection in an airplane are surfaces. The virus can live for hours on surfaces and even days on some!

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago

Please read up on this stuff and don’t just give random advice. A virus consists of a lipid bilayer, a fat membrane, that is dissolved by soap like any other fat. Washing your hands with soap literally destroys ANY virus.

Knute
Knute
6 months ago

“Four characteristics were to be used for the classification of all viruses:

3. Presence OR ABSENCE [emphasis mine] of a lipid membrane
…”

-https://www.news-medical.net/health/Virus-Classification.aspx

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

This particular virus HAS A [emphasis mine] lipid membrane!

Also, note that my post was a reply to a discussion thread that got partially deleted, so you are missing the context here.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
6 months ago

Will, waterless hand cleaner is for expediency. We’re taught that you can wash with it twice, the third time has to be soap and water. Soap and water each time is MUCH more effective. The waterless is for when you can’t get to soap and water. Time is critical when washing because you are using mechanical action as well as chemical. That’s why you’re supposed to sing Happy Birthday to yourself and not just one verse, do all three. 20 seconds is a MINIMUM, 60 seconds is better, keep your elbows higher than you hands so that all the contaminants… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

@USA, Time magazine is a better joke than I could ever write. If only it were the end of Time.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

@USA, I concur.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago

, Hot water, soap, and a minimum of 20 seconds of scrubbing is the most effective. Letting gasoline go down the drain is bad for the sceptic system or sewage treatment plant; gasoline stinks; and can introduce blood poisoning to even small abrasions.

JIAZ
JIAZ
6 months ago


Stick with hot water, soap, and hand sanitizer. There’s plenty of hand sanitizer available online at Amazon.

As for washing your hands with gasoline, please don’t.

“Gasoline is dangerous for your health because it’s toxic. Exposure to gasoline, either through physical contact or inhalation, can cause health problems. The effects of gasoline poisoning can harm every major organ.”
https://www.healthline.com/health/gasoline

“Repeated or prolonged skin contact with liquid gasoline can degrease the skin, causing irritation and dermatitis. First- and second-degree skin burns can occur from continuous contact with liquid gasoline.”
https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/MMG/MMG.asp?id=465&tid=83

Superman
Superman
6 months ago

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Ryben Flynn
Ryben Flynn
6 months ago

Just like any flu virus, sneezing or coughing spreads the virus. A virus can live on a surface for up to 1 WEEK! Why are people so stupid?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryben Flynn

@RF, Its the democrat political disinformation machine and their coconspirators the MSM trying to ruin the Trump economy, so that they have a chance to defeat Trump.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryben Flynn

Will, anybody who is truly worried about their surfaces can mix 1 part of clorox to 9 parts of water and use that to sanitize surfaces. That’ll kill most anything but it might bleach colors that lean against it.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryben Flynn

USA, Naw it’s a response to when they hear the world is ending , OH $hit!

Knute
Knute
6 months ago

“Don’t get mad, get even!” -JFK’s brother RFK-
I might even add… “and maybe a little bit ahead…” 🙂

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

That is my habit… 🙂

Knute
Knute
6 months ago

The TP thing even hit here in NE Montana, and we don’t even have people! I don’t know what the sheeple think they need with all that bog roll, but it’s the only thing Glasgow MT is out of. OFC I’ve had my own stock for years, so it doesn’t effect me, but I seem to be one of the few that can say that, even here in the official middle-of-nowhere. It must come from having grown up 67 miles north of the middle-of-nowhere. Where I grew up toilet paper was a two hour drive away. A bit too far… Read more »

gcm
gcm
6 months ago

@ov, my wife and I went to wally world well past midnight sat. morning, and there was a poor stocker guy trying to put paper towels on the shelf, and people were tearing open boxe’s still on the cart like they were filled with hundred dollar bills. It looked like it was the middle of the day with so many people there, but I knew it was busy when Walmart opened the third cash register.

Desert Ranger
Desert Ranger
6 months ago

Argghh. This is exactly the kind of crap that gives us gunowners a bad name. Science is science and I am going with the epidemiologists on this one. Here is a link to a very well thought out analysis of really dealing with the virus. https://emcrit.org/ibcc/covid19/?fbclid=IwAR0w1oscgIH-k0NgptSc1WTJt90XkPK9Fk_TPX1kPJ_xtUSxM5jNEE-EOzE

statmatt
statmatt
6 months ago

For the record, the “study” (which it wasn’t really even that) that was the source of this bus thing was retracted before publication due to a severe and obvious lack of statistical and scientific rigor. It’s being widely circulated as a panic-inducer, but no one should be mistaking that as any sort of scientific proof of anything. In fact, y’all would be wise to take this article down.

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  statmatt

Any source for you claim that this study has been retracted. It is still published: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v2

Ves1
Ves1
6 months ago

I don’t know who the author is, BUT – “Tuberculosis” is NOT a virus. You lost all credibility when I saw this. Making me believe this article is “malarkey”.

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Ves1

The author is clearly an idiot who uses a scientific study and adds unscientific nonsense to further a personal agenda. You are right, Tuberculosis is caused by bacteria, called Mycobacterium.

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Ves1

Don’t you think it’s expecting a touch too much for gun writers to know the difference between bacteria and viroids? I mean, your own doctor confuses them (at least every one I’ve ever spoken with does…)!
If your doctor doesn’t know the difference, how can gun writers be expected to? In my experience, the only ones to know the difference are actual virologists,,, and perhaps a very few self-educated people like myself.

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

If your doctor confuses bacteria and viruses, get a new doctor!!! Symptoms and treatments for both differ drastically. If your doctor treats your Tuberculosis with an antiviral drug, you gonna die! If your doctor treats your flu with an antibiotic, you gonna die! A viroid is something completely different, unless you consider yourself a plant.

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago

Then you are apparently better than Knute’s doctor. LOL

Knute
Knute
6 months ago

I think I need to clear something up. I have no doctor. I treat myself, and stay healthy as a result. The last time I visited a doctor in an office was, if memory serves, 1994. This is why I used the words every doctor “Ive spoken with”! I “speak with” MDs at events and parties and such. I don’t PAY them for their babble. I get the real story after they get nice and plastered and can no longer self-censor effectively. When I had to download official data from the surgical manufacturer to convince a doctor he was about… Read more »

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  Knute

So, you haven’t seen a doctor since 1994 (26 years ago) and want to tell us something about doctors with fancy party stories. LOL.

Going back to the original argument, the writers (those from Fox News and Oath Keepers) in the above article clearly have no clue whatsoever. They combine two studies, one of them a reproducible scientific lab study, with a bunch of hogwash to scare the shit out of people. We point that out and you call us sheep? You clearly lost track in your line of arguments here.

JIAZ
JIAZ
6 months ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0vQkd2vUiIA “What to Do About Coronavirus” “To help prevent a coronavirus infection, do the same things you do to avoid the common cold: Wash your hands thoroughly with soap and warm water or with an alcohol-based hand sanitizer. Keep your hands and fingers away from your eyes, nose, and mouth. Avoid close contact with people who are infected. You treat a coronavirus infection the same way you treat a cold: Get plenty of rest. Drink fluids. Take over-the-counter medicine for a sore throat and fever. But don’t give aspirin to children or teens younger than 19; use ibuprofen or acetaminophen… Read more »

Charlie Foxtrot
Charlie Foxtrot
6 months ago
Reply to  JIAZ

DON’T take over-the-counter drugs to lower fever! Fever is part of your body’s natural response to the virus and helps your immune system fighting it. Use over-the-counter drugs to lower fever only when the fever is way too high!