Should You Help an Innocent Victim?- More Self Defense Gun Stories

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U.S.A.– (Ammoland.com)- You didn't see this news covered by the mainstream media, but again this week, responsible gun owners defended themselves and the people they love. Self-defense instructor Amanda Suffecool joins the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast to look at four new examples. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they well trained? (25-minute audio)

These victims saved lives because they had a gun..and good habits.

Rob- Are you armed at home?

It is cold and dark outside. It is 6:30 in the evening when you walk out of your home. A stranger comes toward you as you get to the sidewalk. The stranger draws a firearm and tells you to give him your purse and your phone. You have your Illinois concealed carry permit. You’re armed. You move, draw your handgun, and shoot at your attacker. He shoots back.

You retreat to your home and call the police.

Second Story-  Are you armed at home?

You and your roommate are at home on a Tuesday night. It is late at night when you hear someone banging at your front door. The strangers shout that they work for the city of Austin and to open the door. You come out of your room and see your room mate open the door. A moment later your roommate is pushed back into the room by a man wearing a hard hat, a construction vest, and holding a gun in his hand. The stranger puts his gun to your roommates head. Your attackers shoot at you, and you duck back into your room. You grab your gun and shoot back until the intruders run away.

Your roommate isn’t hurt. You call the police. They find your three wounded attackers outside. One of them is taken to the hospital where he is arrested for two counts of felony murder and held for a quarter million dollars bond. He has a criminal record. The other two attackers died at the scene.

Third story- Are you armed when you buy cigarettes?

It is before noon. You’re a customer in a tobacco shop/convenience store when you look up. The two clerks behind the counter have their hands up in the air. A guy with a mask over his face is shouting for all the customers to move behind the counter, and the robber is pointing his gun at you. You’re armed. You move behind the counter with the three other customers. An older lady walks into the store and the robber turns away from you. You grab your gun while the robber grabs the lady by her hair and drags her behind the counter. You shoot your attacker five times before he drops his firearm.

Everyone is screaming, but they are not injured. You call 911 and stay at the scene. EMTs transport your attacker to the hospital.

Fourth story- Are you armed at home in your apartment?

You are in your apartment after dark. You hear a woman in the courtyard scream. You look up and see a man strangling her. You’re armed. You run outside, draw your firearm and tell the man to stop. He puts his hands up and you tell him not to move. You call the police.

When they arrive, the man rushes the police officers saying he is god.

Tag- No shots fired.

Links and text of the discussion at the podcast webpage.



Slow FactsAbout Rob Morse

Rob writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob is an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.

Contact Amanda at her nationally syndicated radio show eye on the target radio, Sunday nights from 5 to 7 eastern time.

 

 

 

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freewill
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freewill

This is a good question, should I help? Usually victims are unarmed and dont believe in self defense, So if I’m ever in a situation like that, I might have to think on it, Maybe the police will arrive with their guns to stop the guy while I’m thinking..However, I do know what will happen if he comes for me

MICHAEL J
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MICHAEL J

Only in leftist democrat run states, is it forbidden to help victims without a permit or permission. Criminals know this and so do anti-Constitution politicians and bureaucrats. As for the law abiding, that’s what separates us from the aforementioned lowest forms of life.

Circle8
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Circle8

Should you help an innocent victim??? DAMN RIGHT IF YOU ARE ABLE.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Cir, First, make sure that the victim is innocent. Second, make sure that the victim is not bait in the ambush trap. Third, make sure that you know where the exfil route is.

Pastor Roy
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Pastor Roy

The convenience store robbery? The armed customer shot the robber 5 times and he was “transported to the hospital”. Why doesn’t this one read, “died at the scene” like the two home invaders? Who shoots 5 times and doesn’t kill the perp? Somebody needs range time!

Firewagon
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Firewagon

LOL! A recent video of an off-duty police officer hired as security at a liquor store showed him firing off rapid-fire rounds at a would-be armed robber. The perp was hit several times; however, other rounds at least two were missing and going through the front window, and other ‘misses’ were not resolved. This was an example perhaps ‘why’ nearly 75% of shots fired by police in confrontations are MISSES! People tend to believe that police officers are ‘skilled’ with weapons. That is too often NOT the fact. This particular establishment owner was making a point of ONLY hiring police-type… Read more »

freewill
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freewill

LMAO, Reminds my of a story out of NYC, A guy shoots his boss at a bus stop, Police chase him for several blocks, The cops shoot 9 people and arrests the guy

zed
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zed

I suspect it was due to small/light caliber than anything else. I would not be surprised if the “customer” was shooting a .32 or a .380. Unless they were shooting a .38 snubby, then I have no Cosmic clue as to why the perp did not drop unless they only hit extremities: arms, legs (his noggin may be;-)> ) I’ve trained and armed many over the years. I tell them if the biggest/heaviest caliber you can reasonable handle is a .380 or a .32acp, then use that. Better to be able to reliably shoot and hit your target than not… Read more »

Firewagon
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Firewagon

Saw your reply late. If you see this, go to youtube and look up ‘why this cop carries 145 rounds’ or words to that effect. Will argue the idea of ‘too small/light’ a caliber;)

JPM
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JPM

A real man will do the right thing and defend women, children and those who are incapable of defending themselves when the time comes, it’s what we do.

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Will Flatt
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1st Scenario: Wouldn’t happen, as I would never live in a socialist anti-freedom state like Illinois, where defending yourself on your own property against the threat of deadly force by an armed robber would probably get YOU thrown in prison! I live in an adjacent state with strong pro-2A laws. I would not have a problem with using my firearm to defend another individual – or a cop – who’s caught “on the X”. That being said, I cannot stress enough that if you carry – if your gun ownership is predicated on self-defense – GET CARRY INSURANCE AND STUDY… Read more »

BowserB
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BowserB

Will, be sure you vote in every election to keep your state free. 2018 had less than 50% turnout in the November national elections, and the House of Reps went blue. We have to worry about both state and federal laws, as you know.

Will Flatt
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Yes, I always vote in every election at every level, local state and federal. Voting is a right, and it’s a duty. Those who don’t vote end up with the government they deserve. Because if we don’t all turn out, who will counteract all the dead people and illegal aliens the Demonrats send to the polls??

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

The way I see it, if you are armed you have an obligation to protect someone who is under threat or duress. Could you really live with yourself if an innocent person dies and you had the ability to prevent it? I have seen with my own eyes one person die for sure and another who very likely died, all of this while I was unarmed because my employer would not even allow firearms in one’s vehicle locked up in the parking lot. Ever since then it’s like the American express card — I don’t leave home without it. Yes,… Read more »

RoyD
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RoyD

Sort of like during WW2 when the US Govt knew what was going on in the death camps in occupied Poland and bombed the shit out of the rail lines leading to them and the camps themselves so that Hitler’s murder machine’s body count wouldn’t be quite so high; right? Oh, wait a minute……..

For those of you who are bit scant on the details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_bombing_debate

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Never again. If the armed will not stand up and stop evil then what’s the point? I stand with those who know life is eternal. In comparison between this life and the eternity to come, this life is not much more than a vapor. That said, the decisions, the actions, the words we use here have effect there. Life is indeed eternal. The only question is where you will spend it. If you want to spend it in Heaven there is only one way to get there. JESUS. Anything off of this narrow road leads to hell. Life is precious… Read more »

Will Flatt
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Hard agree! Courts have consistently ruled the police have NO duty to protect us. If they do, it’s because of the judgment of the officer on-scene. As such, we ARE indeed our own 1st Responders, and the police are simply the backup.

BowserB
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BowserB

I believe the consensus of self defense trainers is that your obligation is to yourself and your family first. What happens if you decide to help an unarmed person, and you die in the confrontation. Your wife and kids lose their husband and father, and probably their main financial provider, because you opted to save someone who had the same opportunity as you, to be armed and trained. Will the person you tried save take care of your family for you? What if you accidentally injure or kill the person you were trying to save and get sued or get… Read more »

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

There is no greater love than a man lay down his life for his friends. I wish I had a better way to explain that but it is self explanatory.

Arm up, carry on.

RoyD
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RoyD

I can count the number of my “friends” on both hands and still have a couple of fingers left over. I have fairly exclusive requirements for someone to be my friend. Fortunately for everybody else, I will do my best to save you because that’s how I was raised.