America Burning, We Now Know What to Expect if Trump Wins in November ~ VIDEO

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USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- Multiple major US cities were left burning after so-called “protesters” took advantage of the death of George Floyd at the hands of one rogue cop, to destroy, steal and burn private and public property.

Instead of peaceful protest calling for change, we had organized agitators, teenagers, and criminals take advantage of a heartbreakingly tragic situation to rob, loot, and destroy, then burn post offices, banks, retail stores, fast-food restaurants, and liquor stores.

Lost in all of this was any mention of George Floyd, but we heard plenty of incoherent foul mouth laced rants against President Donald Trump as Secret Service Agents were hit in the head with bricks as they pushed back crowds in front of the White House.

None of this had anything to do with the death of Mr. Floyd as the cop filmed killing George has already been arrested and charged with murder in record time. And the FBI, DOJ, state and local authorities are all investigating the filmed death.

A Storm is Here

Each of the cities engulfed in flames last night are Democratically controlled strongholds with weak Mayors and Governors. They all have allowed this chaos and destruction to go on without enforcing the law or sending in the police or national guard to stop this madness, all in the name of letting “protesters” blow off steam. When in our lifetimes have we ever seen an American police station abandoned and allowed to be looted and burned. I hope no one was locked in the cells!

Where is the national leadership of the Democratic party? Not a single one of them has come out in condemnation of the law-breaking looters? On the Republican side, we have only seen a few including Texas senator Ted Cruz call them out for what they are, criminals thugs!

We saw the deep states’ attempt at a soft coup in the case of Michael Flynn against Donald Trump. It seems that the peaceful transition of power has disappeared from our nation, and we are seeing a trial run of their next attempt at a hard, violent coup to change America into the United Communist States of America forcibly.

We now see the future response we can expect from Democrats and their thug allies when they lose the election in November…again. This time it appears that rather than crying and screeching, they are intent on destroying and burning America.

The past few nights should be a wake-up call for anybody who believes in law and order and the decency towards their fellow Americans. We have heard this time and again that “this election is the most important one” well, it appears now we’re at another election battle for the soul of our country, so be prepared to vote.

And as always stay heavily armed, trained, dangerous, and prepared to defend our way of life and our Constitution. God bless the USA! We are going to need it.

 

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Darkman

Let the fun begin.
Trump announces US to designate Antifa as terrorist organization following violent protests | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-announces-u-s-to-designate-antifa-as-terrorist-organization-following-violent-protests

Rock

Take’em out !

Rock

CHA CHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigJim

@USA, Christopher Wray needs to go drop a UA. He is on drugs.

Dubi Loo

Do nothing Wray needs to be fired TODAY.

Bill

Well if that’s the case, that this is what their reaction is going to be (and I bet it will be), The President and police better F-ing be ready to get dirty. The paid outrage protesters being bussed all over the US are only continuing to do this stuff because the mayors of every city where this happens are permitting it to happen with no response by police. So the mayor’s and chiefs of police in every damn city it happens in should be immediately arrested and jailed until their trials. If the good guys would just be allowed to… Read more »

AlphaMikeEcho

That’s a solid plan.

DRM1963

The agenda is on the table, the leftist demoncrats,and hired help made clear their intentions. against the American People. We know their names. There are certain people that really need to be removed from this earth…..

AlphaMikeEcho

I couldn’t agree more. Number 1 is taking a pounding right now. Number 3 is always front and center. Number 2 is always tucked away in little corners and veiled in so many ways. This election is going to be so critical, I hope we have the showing that we need.

Operator Z

The irony is not lost on us with a brain. The left is brain dead. Take care of your families, I believe all of this will get worse.

Vern

We have survived Islamic terrorism, now we have leftist terrorism, will we unify and survive? Those on the left hope we don’t. The soviet union lasted 75 years, it had taken everything its people had, it had looted everything those nations they conquered had to loot and finally run out of other peoples money and couldn’t survive the Reagan years and fell apart trying to meet the challenge of Reagan’s SDI defense of the US. The left mourned when the USSR fell, their mother ship was sunk, now they want to sink the ship they are on and haven’t got… Read more »

Vern

It is amazing how blind people can run a straight line into a hole, isn’t it.

RoyD

I have news for you Vern. “Leftist terrorism” has been here for over a century.

Vern

Yes, but now they are proud enough to bring it out in the open. Its a tough job bringing everyone down to their level, but with the number of people coming in illegally they feel they are gaining in equality with them and that makes them proud that they have somewhat of a following. The lower the intelligence level the more equal the lefties feel.

MICHAEL J

I find it interesting that these antagonists haven’t used a great deal of firearms to further their fake outrage. Capture a few and find out who’s really pulling their strings. It’s already proven that these thugs are not the simple protest of local people.
People who live in these communities wouldn’t typically burn down places they depend on.
Punish the moron that started this inexcusable lawlessness, then go after the paid punks who could care less about justice.

TriBlade

I saw a video being shared on Twitter where a Caucasian man was leaving an expensive pair of shoes in the passenger seat of his car. As he placed the shoes he told the camera he was using them as bait for looters so he could snipe therm from his bedroom window. I would not be surprised if this video was staged juicy to further rile people up.

Tionico

and if he DID get one, in nearly all states he could, and should, be charged with murder one….. premeditated.

Canot use lethal force to protect propery in most states. Now if he were INSIDE the car and someone busted in, new game. Unlawfully entering or attempting to enter an occupied vehicle, same as occupied home. Presumption that lethal force is then justified.
You’ve probably got it right… staged to stir up more trouble.

Wild Bill

@Tio, Yep, propaganda.

Arizona Don

You can in Arizona

Finnky

@AZ-Don – Technically you can use lethal force in protection of property in Texas. However you are likely to incur significant legal costs in the aftermath. Setting a baited trap as @TriBlade discusses, and publishing such plans online, seems like the height of folly. Just because action is legal does not mean that plaintiffs will not win civil suit against you – and with such a video in hand they definitely will.

Video sounds like something similar to the gun-to-dick photos — a bunch of anti-gun propaganda created by people opposed to individual civil rights.

RoyD

You can in Texas after nightfall.

Arizona Don

George Soros backs antifa. Their organization is doing most of the organizing of the riots and looting.

Wild Bill

@MJ, Few firearms, but lots of gasoline. The resulting explosions and fire are deadly force. All deadly force used in return are self defense.

KDad

On FOX News this morning there was a question as to whether Pres. Trump has the authority to designate ANTIFA a Terrorist Organization. If he doesn’t have the authority, it would be up to Congress to make the declaration. If that’s the case, I suspect the DemocRATs would NOT make the declaration, hoping the current situation will damage the President. Just a thought.

GUNFUN

@KDad, you seem to be too indoctrinated by the far-leftist news. How else could you ignore all that trump has done for America?

Wild Bill

@GF, An excellent observation.

Pitchfork peasant

Red flag laws are a problem for some of us

Wild Bill

@KD, FOX has it half right and therefore all wrong. Trump could deploy active duty personnel, immediately. The National Guard would have to be nationalized first (converted from Title 32 status ((state pays)) to Tile 10 status ((federal government pays)) ). Then Trump could deploy those units also.

Knute

“those who know nothing are better off than those whose heads are filled with half-truths and lies.” -Thomas Jefferson

C Step

I have a hard time blaming them. I would do the exact same things if my right to own firearms was taken away. In this case, it’s another unarmed man killed by a police officer. If you don’t think the system is corrupt or you think the government cares about you and your rights, you’re a damn fool.

SEMPAI

@C Step
You are correct but last I saw on video it was not Target security that killed him nor was it Donny’s calzone and subs so burning and looting will make things MUCH worse for ALL of us.

Wild Bill

@C, You are missing a step. You can not go from one local policeman’s actions to condemning the entire dual sovereignty, Constitutional Republic, system as corrupt.

So you would burn and loot rather than use legal means? These riots will guarantee that the local police, as the mayoral private army, will exist for the next hundred years.

C Step

Legal means haven’t worked. The entire system is full of crooked, corrupt people. “CYA” is a very real thing. Qualified immunity has protected liars, thieves, and murderers in the ranks of law enforcement for 50 years. This is the same government that passed the PATRIOT Act (what an utter BS name) and then recently expanded it. Democrats and Republicans have no problem throwing your rights in the trash when it suits them. 1. Soap Box. 2. Ballot Box. 3. Jury Box. 4. Ammo Box. In that order. People have protested against 2A infringements, corrupt police, violations of civil rights, violations… Read more »

Arizona Don

Make no mistake about it Obama started this movement to destroy America. He even promised a fundamental transformation. A fundamental transformation does away with what it replaces. So his promise was to replace a Constitutional Representative Republic along with our free enterprise economic system. No one even asked him to explain his transformation they just accepted it. While his supporters cheered wildly and the MSM promoted it!. It is becoming quite obvious that law enforcement cannot handle these riots and looting so something other then law enforcement is going to have to take a hand in cleaning up this mess.… Read more »

JoeUSooner

CStep, I agree… I would indeed participate in a civil war if my ability to own a firearm were abolished (my ‘right’ cannot be taken away, but my practical ability may be). The difference is that my revolt would be directly – and only – against the specific tyrant that abused me… not wantonly against any industry or organization that just happened to be handy. My effort would be to correct the injustice at its source, and to support the Constitutional Republic that this country was originally designed and intended to be. I would NOT ever desire to fundamentally change… Read more »

Doszap

Yep, a Police State.
Governors all getting in on the Phake C19 Plandemic using a virus for Total control.
We are going full blown Commie.
God help us.

loveaduck

When was shooting looters outlawed?

Rock

When Dems and libs were voted in BY those that are looting.
Their INSURANCE POLICY !

Dubi Loo

In 1968 Richard J Daley gave the order “shoot to kill all looters and arsonists on sight.” The severe violence ended in minutes.

willyd

mm44mag: I did Vietnam, went served and lost friends, Biggest Problem with it was that the Politicians didn’t want to win it they used it for a test session for all of the new weapons that they had developed, so did China and the USSR, at the cost of over 58,000 American Lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tionico

that is the ONE THING ol’ Boss Daly did that was right.

but then, he grew up being very comfortable with mob rules so it could only be natural for him to say that. It DID work, though…. didn’t it?

Wild Bill

@Tio, well said and true.

Wild Bill

@OV, and the 1968 Chicago riots were supposedly due to the trial of the Chicago Seven. Remember that “civil rights” lawyer knew that he was going to lose, so he was inciting socialists through the media?

PMinFl

Sickening isn’t it? Now “history” starts in 1975

Quatermain

All so called conspiracy theories aside, one has a rational reason to question if there will even be an election in November. At the current rate of societal decay we are in for a very rough ride. Lock and load.

Bob

Law abiding Americans should reflect on how feckless, flaccid, and unprepared authorities have been in responding to the worst rioting in American history. Authorities are incompetent and will not save your business or home. You will have to do it yourself. This has been a total fail by civil authority. (1) No organized, convincing show of force by local police, Nat Guard or DoD (2) Martial law should have been declared (curfews were ignored with impunity in every city) (3) Rioters are more organized than authorities (4) No declaration that “looters will be shot on sight” (5) No effective riot… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Bob, Yes, and it all happened in the big cities.

Terry

Vermin. Nothing more, nothing less.

Rock

100% domestic terrorists…. TAKE THEM OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You want to protest fine. You throw one punch or rock, break a window or start a fire.
YOU are DEAD !
No talking or whining after the fact, DEAD.

AlphaMikeEcho

That’s over the top. Contain yourself.

Wild Bill

@AME, You have your opinion. He has his.

AlphaMikeEcho

His opinion is to kill. That deserves condemnation.

Heed the Call-up

Then invite these thugs to your house for a “party”.

AlphaMikeEcho

I spent the weekend protecting property during the riots. It’s my profession. Stay in your lane.

Wild Bill

@AME, Odd that you would hold such bassackword opinions. I would like to here more about your security guard job.

AlphaMikeEcho

I’m not a security guard, but thanks for playing.

Wild Bill

@OV, Kind of, maybe StL got promoted to supervisory troll, and this one is a neophyte.

Wild Bill

@OV, And elected, too!! LOL

SEMPAI

@AME
Stay in your lane?
Worked just this weekend at FPL substation in Miami riots there too but no security no (rent a cops to be found) lots of traffic

AlphaMikeEcho

Good on you.

SEMPAI

@AME
glad you were called into action tho sir
Thanks for coming in

Wild Bill

@AME, There are only three professions in the United States. You are not a member of any of them

AlphaMikeEcho

@WB You truly don’t know me, and I don’t know you. How you measure a man speaks to your measure. I was hoping to find others that appreciate discourse outside of the normal stereotypes, but I definitely came to the wrong place. Ammoland citizens, you bested me. The herd mentality is strong here, free thought among fellow Conservatives just isn’t here. I will, however, continue to use Ammoland to track down great deals on firearms and ammo. May God Bless America, I pray our Nation can find the sense it once had where we can unite instead of divide. I’ll… Read more »

AlphaMikeEcho

Many of these people are teenagers who have poor decision making capability. They come from bad homes and have no chance of learning lifeskills and good decision making on their own. If they break a window, should they be killed. Absolutely not. You, sir, are out of line. By the way, a Right to Bear Arms is NOT a right to murder. You should know this.

AlphaMikeEcho

When you’re sent to prison for someone breaking your window you’ll have time to think about the price of bad decisions. If a 16 year old girl breaks your window, are you really going to kill her?

Wild Bill

@USA, Anyone that throws a rock is using deadly force … anyone. Anyone with a bottle of gasoline, a big stick, or wasp spray or almost anything hard or is using deadly force. And lets not forget disparity of force. Disparity of force is a whole chapter by itself.

willyd

AlphMikeEcho: You are blinded by the lefts and goody two shoes, this is the age old argument that they had a POOR CHILDHOOD, if they had any determination or gumption anybody could pull themselves up and out of where they came from, but these clowns are really doing what the Demo-Rats are saying, getting everything for nothing and not being punished, where do you think this country will go if it is not stopped?

SEMPAI

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AlphaMikeEcho

I was front line during the protests/riots in my area. Many of these people were children. Do I believe in taking to vandalism ABSOLUTELY NOT, but they do not deserve to be killed for their misdeeds. That’s lunacy to suggest so. Protecting yourself from a deadly threat,l by shooting a kid in the head for a breaking a window is just insane. Stopping liberal abuses is done with deeds, not violence.

AlphaMikeEcho

You meet the action with the appropriate reaction. If you think killing is a blanket answer, that on you.

Tionico

If a sixteen year old kid, of the “qualithy” you describe, steals a car, races wlong the freeway and causes a ten car pilup killing four people, should he be allowed to walk free? Not in MY universe, he’s not. Too bad his mama’s sperm donor bailed and left the kid fatherless. I have to blame his mama, for spreading her legs to a dirtbag. It is STILL no excuse for young kids to be carrying on like this. And WE as a people are culpable for allowing our schools to be coopted by many of the very same ones… Read more »

AlphaMikeEcho

You don’t shoot a 16 year old kid in the head for stealing a car. They suffer the consequences through the rule of law. Not mob justice. As Republicans, we know this to be true. Everyone equal under the law. Little Johnny is no exception. What isn’t right or lawful is for someone to take the life of another when their life isn’t in imminent danger, and you know this.

Wild Bill

@AME, If a teenager or five year old throws a rock that is deadly force, which can be lawfully met with deadly force.

AlphaMikeEcho

To even suggest that you’d consider using deadly force on a 5 year old is a testament to you. If a teenager is throwing a rock, it depends on the size of the rock, the target, and the potential outcome. If the teenager is throwing a cinder block at the head of another person to do them grave bodily harm, it more than likely would be justified for fatal force if you aim to preserve life. If they are breaking a jewelery store window or grab a bunch of sneakers, murder is not the answer.

Wild Bill

@AME, Deadly force is deadly force, and age is not part of the analysis. Size of the rock is not part of the analysis. What you believed is part of the analysis. Not all killing is murder.

What you write makes you sound so inexperienced and unlearned. Talk to some Vietnam vets about how people use their toddlers as weapons. And Please see Robinson on Criminal Defense.

Pitchfork peasant

Then there are the ones taught liberal “values” in school just like hitler youth. Know plenty of people who have children in school across the country. People are far more impressionable then they realize. There is far more power in the group (social norms etc) than there is in the individual. Actions from any group are always turned against them later on historically. Useful idiots can work both ways. Saul alinsky used educated people allegedly. More like brainwashed people or using their ignorance (not stupidity) against them. Propaganda, public relations, marketing, are all the same thing. Edward bernays, nephew of… Read more »

Tionico

or perhaps his opinion is to PROTECT the personal property being destroyed? An dpotential lives? Ive not yet seen a death count, but when diertbags wander about burning buildings, sooner or later there will be deaths. Breaking and entering and arson, are justification for responding with lethal force. Throwing rocks and/or punches, not so much. Although if the rocks are bit enough, and/or there is a signficant disparity of force by way of numbers for those throging the rocks or punches, the game is a new one. If I had a sop, and were inside it, and forteen punks started… Read more »

Wild Bill

@AME, The rioters, arsonists, and looters are using deadly force that invites deadly force in self defense. It would be rude not to accept.

AlphaMikeEcho

If you or another is in imminent grave threat, you have the right to preserve life. I don’t argue that.

AlphaMikeEcho

It depends on the nature of the offense, transmission versus distribution have their own nuances outside of generation. Infrastructure specific security is closely guarded and details are often not shared with the public. Unless a news team picks up footage, utilities fly under the radar. As they should. If vulnerabilities were shared in a public forum, there is no good outcome.

AlphaMikeEcho

Either you’ve been out of utilities for a while or you don’t understand the nature of infrastructure security.

AlphaMikeEcho

I still have no idea what an AME preacher/religion even is. I had to Google it. I do think I have a different moral standing and sense of rationale than you, of that there is no doubt.

AlphaMikeEcho

Before you, I never heard of them. Maybe if they had fish fry Fridays or bingo nights they’d be more popular in my area.

SEMPAI

@AME
Never heard of an AME church? Are you serious at your age ? Wow what a nice world you reside in, I’m extremely jealous in all seriousness. I want to move there.

SEMPAI

@Oldvet
Yes sir I agree doesn’t make him a bad person, he’s much more forgiving than myself I’ll give him that.

Wild Bill

@SEMPAI, He is most peculiar, brother.

AlphaMikeEcho

@SEMPAI I don’t care what religion someone else is. So I’m sure there are Faith’s out there that I don’t have exposure to.

Wild Bill

@OV, The more he writes the more that I doubt that he is what he claims. He just does not ring true.

Finnky

@USA – I’d want a little more refinement on the “one punch” rule. If someone who has made the poor choice to associate with the mob is attacked by another member, fighting back should not be a lethal mistake. As for me – I’m a fraidy-cat wimp. No way I’m waiting for them to get close enough to throw a punch. If a mob is coming my way I’m announcing intent and beginning to fire before they get close enough to throw a brick.

AlphaMikeEcho

A major utility. East of California.

AlphaMikeEcho

Threats from far left and far right have changed the security landscape. We respond to 3-4 credible threats a week and a majority are tied to organized hostile elements. Gone are the days of a bored kid out in the countryside taking potshots at rats and hit a transformer accidentally. Unfortunately we are seeing a major uptick in domestic versus global hostile actors. What is astonishing is how both the far left and far right want to take down the country in their own ways, but they lead to the same place. On destruction of critical infrastructure, that is topic… Read more »

AlphaMikeEcho

That’s a very good point, it could. I pray for the situation to never arise and train so if it does I can respond appropriately.

AlphaMikeEcho

Also, thank you for your utility service as well. Many people don’t understand the hard work and sacrifice our electrical utility personnel put in on a regular basis. 32 years is an amazing run.

willyd

Oldvet; Drove local p/d truck and had to deliver to a npp outside of Philly, min, 30min to get in and 30min to check out, plus the road passages to work your way through to make the delivery, which changed regularly!

Tionico

one punch or rock, yes, instant death might be over the top. But maybe not. IN a war zone, any combatant taking action on the field is fair game. If you are not about perpetrating evil/harm, then WHY are you there and not trying ti get out of the area? Breaking a window is breaking and entering a structure… justification for lethal force in most jurisdictions. Arson, same thing. In those cases, yes, responding with lethal force IS fully justified. I am waiting to see where the first equivalent of the Los Anglese Korean shop owners on the roof will… Read more »

Pitchfork peasant

One day we might be the protestors protesting forced “buybacks” or turn ins, confiscation, or even more gun control. Politicians decisions on one side are always used by the other side later on. Remember that before making decisions on our nemises

Deplorable Bill

I suppose the demoncrapic party has been taking notes from king george on how to destroy a free and independent nation. How far away are we from Concord ? Not far now.

Arm up, carry on.

hoss

Looters should be shot on sight! If indeed that would have happened there would not have been the rioting that occurred.
As it was all things were done by design.

SEMPAI

Anyone else notice end of the month , post office burned , welfare check?
Smart verrry smart.

joefoam

It should be as plain as the noose on your face by now. The police will be of no help if you are in trouble. No wonder the gun shops are mobbed with buyers.

Wild Bill

@joefoam, And those gun buyers should have started three weeks ago! They all believed Oblabla that they could just pay cash and carry!

Their house will be cold ashes before they finish the paperwork. I wonder what address they should use when their house no longer exists? What does the GCA say about that?

Arizona Don

When Hillary lost the 2016 election it instantly became apparent the loss was not going to be taken lightly and a peaceful transfer of power take place as it has for nearly 240 years previously. And it did not. It is becoming quite obvious that law enforcement cannot handle these riots and looting so something other then law enforcement is going to have to take a hand in cleaning up this mess. If it is not cleaned up soon and antifa jailed for their destructive actions vigilante law may very well become the norm and killing them will begin. Not… Read more »

RoyD

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. NSFW.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=C485M_1590861256

Deplorable Bill

@ Roy D; Looks to me like someone died of natural causes, natural to what he was doing at the time. I doubt he was trying to collect for the red cross or the march of dimes.. No, he was trying to rob the trailer. I don’t see a way the driver could have possibly known what was going on behind his trailer. The people pounding on the door likely spooked the driver and he left, pulled out to get away from trouble. I might have done the same thing. It’s not like there was a riot going on or… Read more »

gregs

your gonna pay for stupid.

Gdubb

The man under the truck tire died of COVID19 most likely.

Heed the Call-up

Smart man, it would appear that he learned from the LA riots, ala Reginald Denny. He gave plenty of warning, blasting his horn and beginning to drive away slowly. Maybe the rest of these thugs will learn, too.

@Gdubb, COVID-19 death, I believe you are correct.

RoyD

I could be mistaken but I don’t think there will be any shenanigans at this “rally” tomorrow:

https://freepressokc.com/black-lives-matter-plans-demand-justice-protest-rally-in-okc-sunday/

OKC frowns on people tearing stuff up.

Chris

America is unique in the world because we have the Constitution and supports the idea that our citizens have rights because we have been given these rights by God Almighty not by the government. We have guns at out disposal, millions of guns but what the Patriot doesn’t have is, organization and without organization we are very vulnerable. Antifa is organized! It has an organization that is international in scope and nationally organized I,n every western country. It is very dangerous and if we rely on the Federal Government they will win. When the conservatives lose the White House Antifa… Read more »

Oldman

Seattle did it again, two nights in a row. The curfew was adjusted to 6 PM and the numbnuts (commiecrats) put up with it until 2140 before they decided to enforce it. Had they started moving the protesters along their way at 1800 they wouldn’t have been put in this situation, again. Growing up, when my mom became exasperated with my shenagigans,, she said, “when your father gets home I am going to tell him what you have done”. I, of course, continued being an ass and when my Dad got home, I paid the price. Afterwards, he told me,… Read more »

RoyD

I live in the most “Red” county in the most “Red” State in the country; let them come.

MICHAEL J

Ol Barry the great hope and change is responsible for dividing this nation along racial lines.

American Patriot

If the Governors & law enforcement are not willing to stop them, I guess they deserve everything they get (not the people though). Unless they are willing to show force & stack some body’s this is going to keep happening…….Oh wait?
This will be America if the Socialist get voted in…..Except this will be the scene of people fighting for food!

RoyD

I was talking with a friend a little while ago and mentioned that the major riots in the 1960’s did not start slowing down until the bad guys started dropping dead from lead poisoning. That is a fact.

a.x. perez

Watched Youtube and Facebook streaming of demonstrations in El Paso, Texas. While protestors were all somewhat rowdy, the calls for arson and other violence came from people who came from out of town. Person whose stream I was watching complained about this and he was one of the demonstrators. El Paso is blue, and if our murder rate is low we are not exactly paragons of respect for “lawn order.” The majority of El Pasoans are Latinos and El Paso is a relatively poor town. However, it’s our town, they’re our cops and we are not going to wreck our… Read more »

uncle dudley

The rioters show that this isn’t about justice for anyone, but the ugly TDS that they have had since 2016 and they use this as a reason to get away with their hate.
Issue 12ga. shotguns to all the cops and give them plenty of rock salt ammo to pepper the people who won’t disperse when told.

TexasGunCents

This is not TDS. It is a recurring theme among the thugs using a ‘race equality battle cry’ to cover their own bigotry and opportunism. See also Ferguson (2014), et al…

Heed the Call-up

TGC, the pictures and videos show that there are many whites in these crowds. The rioting, looting, and burning certainly has the appearance of Antifa, whether or not they are being named or implicated.

Finnky

@Heed – What you and @TXGunCents say are not mutually exclusive. Have had white people tell me that “blacks cannot be racist” – ????! Such stupidity from someone I once held in high regard really took me aback. Just because a thug is white, does not mean that they will not use any and all opportunities to engage in looting, rioting and any other criminal behavior. I feel for unarmed women and children trapped in these areas – once all compassion and trappings of civilization are set aside – the weak simply become prey, dependent upon someone strong and willing… Read more »

Heed the Call-up

Uncle, forget rock salt, it should be 00 Buck.

Tionico

No no no NO!!!! Yes, use the rocksale to drive them… arond the corner into a secured area where they wil ALL be arrested and charged with treason.. making war on a state or several states. This kind of destruction IS war. Once they are all taken into custody, begin the process of screening them. Where is their legal residence? How did they get from there to here? Who paid for that trip? Have they been recruited by anyone? NOW< go after their "personal devices", get a wwarrant to search every such device. Trace iut their feeds and contacts and… Read more »

Wild Bill

@TIo, Too expensive and ineffective. Use live rounds and question the survivors.

Oldman

@WB, There won’t be any survivors if they fall under my sights.

Wild Bill

@OV, Well, we could analyze their cell phones, then.

Zooid

Remove ALL the retail chains from the inner cities being attacked. Let them fend for themselves. No relief, no assistance, no bailouts.
Suddenly the old movie “Escape from New York” isn’t so silly anymore.

Greg K

Is it not the same, blaming the bricks for the violence of people; as it is blaming the gun for murders?

Greg K

I absolutely recognize it for what it is…In fact, this goes to Oldvet as well. I have stated away from this site that we should allow them to burn it down. Here’s why. Besides the Progressive ilk spending the last 3 months taking rights over a virus, they are exposing themselves as ineffectual leaders in the face of pandemonium. I have a boatload of articles to support the position. Heck, Cuomo and DeButtwad are arguing over troop deployment. Something to consider; It’s not the Device, it’s the Deeds that matter. We all know who the players are, what we are… Read more »

Knute

I’ll bet you ten to one that the money delivering the bricks is the same “money” that bought the street cameras. And that the camera will cut out at a precise moment and then there will be a pile of bricks and gas cans. By the unicorn fart magic that the left all seems to believe in. Or just act as if they do….
“One doesn’t need to be smart to pull off the perfect crime, but only in charge of the following investigation” -Anon

Arizona Don

George Soros backs antifa. Their organization is doing most of the organizing of the riots and looting.

Greg K

Would go one step further. Where are they being stored?

Wild Bill

@OV, And prepositioned munitions in the form of gasoline in bottles hidden in bushes, so that no one gets caught with it on them, but the munitions are still handy.
Gasoline explosion and fire are deadly force, calling for equally deadly self defense.

Greg K

Was referring to predelivery storage. :))

Oldman

On Saturday night Seattle was attacked by anarchists under the veil of a peaceful demonstration. True, there were some peaceful demonstrators, but they were outnumbered by the thugs that burned buildings, businesses, cop cars and looted any store they could break in to. As we all know, the police are outnumbered in these circumstances, and they are stuck with just trying to keep things at a minimum loss scenario. So they (Seattle mayor and J. Inslee, governor) set down a curfew for the next two days at 5:00 PM. Then they bring in the national guard and devise a plan.… Read more »

Oldman

PS: WA STate Guv Inslee stated last night, at the news conference, right before the curfew was going to go in effect, that he thought that our state should be getting some help from our lousy President Trump. I find it totally amazing that the voters in this state would elect, twice, a wimp without a nut sac.

Arizona Don

What do you think would be happening right now if Joe Biden were president?

Wild Bill

@AD and OV, Antifa would be the new Congress by now and Bobby Seals would be the POTUS.

Tionico

and to think this clown thought HE could be or next president…. and sitill wants to be governor for one more term.

Not on MY watch, thanks all the same.

I’d love to, come November, be able to wave buh buy to Jayzee Insleeeeeeeee so long, its been (not) good ta know ya

Wild Bill

@Old, No, this is a city and state issue, not a federal issue, yet.

Wild Bill

@OV, My neighbor and have guns, ammo, MRE and misc. already packed to go to the aid of any city in Texas that might need it.

Wild Bill

@USA, Yes, let the libtards rise up in full revolt. My neighbor and I have the truck packed with firearms, ammunition, MRE, and we are ready to go and “help” when ever and where ever we are called on.

Arizona Don

It is becoming quite obvious that law enforcement cannot handle these riots and looting so something other then law enforcement is going to have to take a hand in cleaning up this mess. If it is not cleaned up soon and antifa jailed for their destructive actions vigilante law may very well become the norm and killing them will begin. Not long after that starts a military conflict could follow. Make no mistake about it that is how close we are at this very minute to another civil war. As a matter of fact it has already begun it is… Read more »

Finnky

@Oldman – Just where do these governors think federal help comes from anyway? After a hurricane or earthquake or other such regional event, the federal government can marshal resources from unaffected parts of the country to help out in the impacted area. When COVID impacts the entire country or riots breakout in most of the big cities, which unaffected parts of the country does Inslee or Newsom thing are going to provide assistance? Police and healthcare are local resources to be used locally while National Guard is a state resources (partially paid for and sometimes borrowed by federal government) –… Read more »

PMinFl

AGAIN you get what you vote for. Both the people and the phony ballot initiatives.

Tionico

Sure, Jay aranged for the Guard to
not be too harsh” on these thugs.
But let someone try and open their coffee or barber shop back up, or show up Sunda morning for their customary church meeting and see how harsh he will have his goons be.

Green Mtn. Boy

Ah yes the exit clause.

RoyD

I encourage you to read this article. If the Sheriff looks and sounds familiar it is because he is the one who responded to a question by a reporter as to why the “suspect” had been shot 68 times, he replied, “Because that was all the ammunition the officers had.”

https://www.fox13news.com/news/peaceful-protesters-gather-in-polk-county-curfew-in-effect-at-8-p-m

Cruiser

We need to cull the herd.

Wild Bill

Here is just a few: There’s Funders for Justice “a virtual organizing platform” for radicals. There’s the Andrus Family Foundation, an offspring of the Surdna Foundation, started, curiously enough, by a wealthy philanthropist who valued “thrift, practicality, modesty, loyalty, excellence and an appreciation for direct service to those in need.” There’s the “progressive” Arca Foundation, that got its start thanks to the guilt-ridden heiress to the R.J. Reynolds fortune. There’s the Open Society Foundations, founded by George Soros. There is probably a lot more in secret.

RoyD

As at least one person has alluded to, serious damage to our infrastructure can be accomplished by a few people with the right knowledge and tools, which are readily available, should they decide to do so. I am just glad it hasn’t been done in a major way during my life.
As a side note I would like to recommend a movie which you can watch for free on you tube. I remember watching it when it first aired in 1968. I have watched it several times since then just because. It’s title is: Shadow On The Land. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSMexBrZe40

Wild Bill

@RoyD, Would the tools be gasoline and a match?

RoyD

Nope.

Wild Bill

@RoyD, Well, what are you thinking of then?

Knute
RoyD

Not today. LOL!

Arizona Don

ANTIFA is the answer to all your questions. George Soros funds Antifa.

Arizona Don

The Russian hoax was actively promoted for over three years by communists posing as democrats. Their goal was/is to tear apart the Constitutional Representative Republic and our free enterprise economic system and replace it with a communist state. I did not think it could get any worse. It did! Than the Wuhan coronavirus came along and we closed down our economy (for what now seems to be a useless reason). Once again the democrat quest for a communist state began all over again. Once again I thought it could not get any worse. It has! Than an ignorant police officer… Read more »

Oldman

@az, I concur totally. Martial law would be a far better way of handling this, at least at this stage. The police cannot handle this because they are just like the British were in ’75 and ’76. WE need to take this to the people,. vote out the commies and go back to the way it was a century ago. You cannot come to my neighborhood and start screwing around, or you will be eatin’ lead.

Arizona Don

I am getting a little old (81) for a fight but I can still see very good 20 30 even without glasses and can shoot pretty damn good as well. Therefore if challenged it will be guns that I use if they attack my home.

PMinFl

AzDon, very good post, one of the best lately. You understand and convey the facts well. As long as you can defend your castle ,do it.

Zooid

The night before, give them 1 hour to remove themselves off the streets after curfew then load up the rubber bullets and stat shooting. No more talking , no more turning the other cheek, no more nice guys.
If the rubber bullets don’t work go to full metal jacket ammo.
These animals are NOT needed in this world and should be removed.

Rock

The warnings have already been issued, the SOROS bought and paid for leftist terrorists burning down the cities need to be exterminated… No rubber, no FMJ… Hollow points or at the very least expanding tip.

Tionico

herd them into chainlink corrals, arrest them all, search out their origins and recent movements. where tothey live, how did they get here, who paid them, who paid for the bus, brick,s signs, etc. Make certain their “personal devices” are also seized and taken into evidence. then search warrants issued for each device and its owner. Trace out their activty via their devices…. feeds, contacts, calls, texts, etc. Trace those out to their sources.. then issue warrants for the arrest of the organisers and funders. Pallets of bricks don’t gt dropped at inner city street corners by great big birds.… Read more »

Finnky

@USA – Does this mean that Posse Comitatus no longer restricts US military activity within the US? If they act against these rioters, they can also act against you. Your words certainly suggest that you are a bigger threat to the government achieving dictator status then these rioters. As for starting to crack down – son in Denver tells me police started in with tear gas and rubber bullets as soon as protests near him encroached on local roadway. Hardly sounds like a soft response to protesters attempting to have their voices heard. Wasn’t there, so no clue whether they… Read more »

Wild Bill

Finnky, the Posse Comitatus Act has not been amended. PCA requires a governors certificate that the situation can not be controlled by local law enforcement, in the request.
National Guard is title 32 until nationalized (title 10) so the governor can give them orders, w/o federal intervention.

Finnky

@WB – That is a very important distinction. Words I had read as coming from Trump (not confirmed as what he said) – sounded as though HE was going to send in the national guard, as in called up to federal service. If the state (in person of the governor) needs to call up NG to perform law enforcement, that is entirely different and entirely appropriate.

Tionico

One of the tasks specifically assigned FedGov is to “quell riot and disturbance”.

Not sur ehow much leeway that gives the CinC of the armed forces, but the intent is pretty plain. Forgin invasion is also on that list, but so far I don’t see any solod evidence we are being direclty invaded by foreign operatives.

Finnky

@USA – As I commented on a liberal website about the poor man – so savagely beat in Dallas riots. His mistake was in standing up to a rioting mob – along, under armed (a machete!), and not being mental or emotional ready to kill if needs be. One should not attempt to face down a mob without being sufficiently prepared mentally, emotionally and physically. You (and they) may get lucky and they may chose to go elsewhere – but you’ve got to be willing to put down as many as it takes to survive the encounter. Would not suggest… Read more »

JoeUSooner

Not quite the correct distinction, Finn. Posse Comitatus prevents the military from enforcing civil law… but the President and the state governors can call in troops (active, reservist, or national guard) specifically to quell violent rioting. While in support of local law enforcement, the military can ONLY work to prevent/stop actual rioting. But the troops cannot themselves exercise law-enforcement duties, such as making civil arrests, transporting prisoners, etc.

MS-Steve

HA HA Ha Ha Ha ha ha ha…
As Larry the Cable Guy might say: “THAT’S funny right, there!, I don’t care who ya are.”

Wild Bill

@OV, Yes, I am hearing a lot of women say that the complex rules and regulations that seemed so common sense when the politicians and media talked about them do not work in the real world.

Finnky

@USA – Anyone with an ounce of firearms training would know not to fire from behind friendlies. That was a sweet hit though – cold. Looked like a sissy toss, so maybe no broken skull.

TNJEWBOY

An oldie but a goodie.

Anarchy USA.

https://youtu.be/6eOqvY818Fg

Finnky

Unless “limited” immunity is drastically reduced, it won’t matter what prosecutors do with Chauvin. Court will find that no cases similar enough have been ruled on, so “rogue cop” has lost his job but may simply find another as soon as publicity dies down.

Wild Bill

@Finnky, You are aware that he has been charged with third degree murder?

Finnky

@WB – Forget term, whether it is “qualified” or “limited” immunity – but It is a policy implemented by SCOTUS which basically says that if cops do outrageous enough stuff they are shielded from prosecution because they did it under color of authority rather than suffering additional consequences as I think they should. The way it works is that unless a court has previously ruled that the exact situation in question is illegal, legal authorities (cops, legislators, etc.) cannot be prosecuted for their crimes. Given political noise around this case I expect (hopefully!) that the trial court will not accept… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Finnkey, there is Sovereign immunity also known as governmental immunity, which is all about freedom from being sued for a tort. Or … in criminal law, there is testimonial immunity, which consists of transactional immunity or use immunity.

Immunity, no matter which type, comes from a state statute or Congressional Act, not the S. CT.

Vanns40

Finnky: Good grief that was long. Let me make this short. He was charged and sovereign immunity will be pierced. He will stand trial. It’s all dependent on conduct that was “so outrageous…..”, and this meets that standard.

C Step

Not always, cops stole a couple hundred thousand dollars in California and were granted qualified immunity. Obviously, theft is wrong, and they clearly robbed the people while executing a search warrant, but they were STILL granted qualified immunity.

Tionico

you seem to think the items in the charging papers are the final word. The autopsy report is not yet complete.. wating on toxicology, for one thing. Another, it seems as he was standing up, resiting being stuffed into the back seat of the cop cruise,r he was already complaing of “I can’t breathe”, yet was speaking normally. What of toxocology report shows his system was loaded eith fentanyl.. and that he wou;d have died if the cops had never approached him? The autompsy already negates any possibility that death came by asphyxiation or strangulation. A knee on the BACK… Read more »

PMinFl

His superiors both police and political will throw him under the bus.

C Step

Your breath is wasted on a lot of the people here who claim to care about liberty but don’t give a crap about qualified immunity and how it’s the opposite of a just and fair system. The same people here “backing the blue” and advocating for the execution of protestors for throwing a rock are the same people claiming they would go to war over their gun rights. They’re full of shit internet trolls who own bunch of guns but wouldn’t use them to do jack squat.

Just1Saddletramp

If your ignorance was a vertue you must be ecstatic

brickjensen

Play stupid games…..guese what you’ll win. Your “black life” matters to me, when it matters to you. Word of warning for all wanna be and would be BLM/ PANTIFA who feel the need to come thuging through Williamson county Texas. If you bounce down and block our streets with your “guns” you’ll be met by men who understand the consequences of pulling a trigger and have seen the devastation it can cause. And we’re going to do it again against all who bring the need for us to defend our city. No building nor monument here will be pulled down,… Read more »

MS-Steve

Ha ha ha ha ha
Hint: DON’T run in front of STUPID… when committing crimes. He’ll drop ya like a sack of shit.

brickjensen

Evidently that guys life didn’t mean shit haha. Pretty standard operation for “those people”.