Correcting the Record on the North Carolina Veto Override Vote

North Carolina Governor Vetos Volunteer Security in Churches Co-Located with Schools, iStock-884214706
North Carolina Governor Vetos Volunteer Security in Churches Co-Located with Schools, iStock-884214706

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- A recent article I wrote on the veto override vote in North Carolina characterized the vote as Rogue Republicans and Democrats Join Forces to uphold NC Governor Veto of Gun Reform.  I have been informed that was a misleading headline.

I was correct on who voted which way, as far as the sources I used (Legiscan, Ballotpedia and the NC legislative site), which were linked in the article.

Here is the final official record from the North Carolina legislature. It shows the excused absences and the Democrats who changed their vote to uphold the Governor's veto. Those Democrats were:

  • Rep. Beasly, District 92
  • Rep. Farmer-Butterfield, District 24
  • Rep. John Sr., District 40
  • Rep. Lucas, District 42
  • Rep. Pierce, District 48
  • Rep. Turner, District 116

Both John Richardson and Paul Valone, who I value as associates and friends, have contacted me to correct some of the analysis in the article.

Both of them are closer to the scene and have great insight into the details of the vote.

The five Republicans who were absent for the override vote were excused by the Republican leadership because they knew they were going to lose the override vote. The five are reliable allies in reforming NC gun law.

John Richardson writes that two of the five who were not present, Representatives Elmore (District 94) and Rogers (District 112), have four-star ratings form Grass Roots North Carolina as particularly effective supporters of the Second Amendment and the right to keep and bear arms.

All five Republicans mentioned deserve support instead of castigation.

  • Rep. Davis, District 4.
  • Rep. Elmore, District 94
  • Rep. Lambeth, District 75
  • Rep. Rogers, District 112
  • Rep. Yarborough, District 2

The session had been long and brutal. All five wanted to override the veto by far-left Governor Cooper. They did not have the votes to do so and had good reason to be elsewhere on the day of the override vote. They were absent for all the override votes that day, not just for the gun law reform vote.

Paul Valone, of Grass Roots North Carolina, who has an encyclopedic understanding of North Carolina politics, especially when it comes to fighting for the right to arms, informed me the Republicans did not have enough votes to override ( I made the same observation). If the absent Republicans had been present, more Democrats would have switched their votes, to defeat the override.

I appreciate the added information provided by Paul and John.

Let me correct the record to show the Republican leadership did not collude with the Democrats to stop the veto override. They already knew they had lost the vote, so they allowed five of their members, who had urgent business elsewhere, to be absent for all votes July 8th.

I recommend you read John Richardson's article about the veto override, to obtain even more details.



About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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oldyogibear
oldyogibear
29 days ago

What’s this “More pressing business?” Another (IMHO) example of selling out. Or, to put it another way, “If I can’t win, I am not even going to try!” On another note, thanks for having to courage to admit and correct an error..Love reading your stuff.

pigpen51
pigpen51
29 days ago

I submit that there was value in bringing up this vote, and in bringing the entire issue before the legislature in the first place. It forces the Democrats to go on record against the 2nd amendment,at least in the first place. As far as giving cover to some of them who are less than stellar on gun rights, often there is no helping them from finding a way of doing that. I attended Bible college back in the days when it still meant something. And one of the things that I learned in my time spent there was that I… Read more »

Mike Hinds
Mike Hinds
29 days ago

Dean, good on you for owning up to the missing information. Thank you for your consistent support of our rights, and awesome reporting of the facts on the ground, sir!

ahhiyawa
ahhiyawa
29 days ago

Weingarten’s a staunch defender of the RTK&BA, but on this issue I believe he is only offering cover for the incredible stupidity and nefariousness of Republicans when it comes to defending ‘essential liberty.’ The excuse “urgent business elsewhere” is a deplorable failure to defend liberty and an unpardonable betrayal of their constituencies. What matters to patriots is the agency of action, the resolve to stand and fight for our rights, not pitiable public demonstrations masquerading as “some good reason to be elsewhere on the day of the override vote.” And that despicable claim that the override was lost anyway is… Read more »

Rowboat
Rowboat
29 days ago

Just a question; which party is the majority in the N.C House?
Here in Va the Democrats are the majority in all three branches and they are running roughshod over the Republican wimps.
We continue to play softball and they ALWAYS play hardball. Won’t they ever learn to put on their big boy pants ?

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
29 days ago

This is one of the reasons people have little respect for the government, the republicans should have known from the start that the democrat governor would veto the bill.
They wasted their time in committee and on the floor bringing this up for debate and vote when they knew they didn’t have enough votes to stop the governor who was surely going to shoot it down.
Pick your battles wisely.

Autsin Miller III
Autsin Miller III
29 days ago

Would it be fair to say they protected some of their Democratic friends by allowing them (Their Democratic friends) to vote in favor of the veto or not vote at all, knowing it wouldn’t be problem because said Republicans wouldn’t be there to vote in favor of it? Thereby giving the Democrats that have a lot of pro gun voters as constituents the ability to say, “See, I TRIED.” Just wondering.