Unless Biden Wins Big, ‘Violence in Streets’ Possible, Says WaPo Op-Ed

rtland are the scenes of continued protests, some violent. Here's how it appeared in Seattle back on June 1. (Screen snip, YouTube, KING nEWS)
Seattle and Portland are the scenes of continued protests, some violent. Here's how it appeared in Seattle back on June 1. (Screen snip, YouTube, KING nEWS)

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Writing recently in the Washington Post, Prof. Rosa Brooks at Georgetown University Law Center said a brainstorming session by “The Transition Integrity Project” conjured some “likely” scenarios about the outcome of the November election and concluded “With the exception of the ‘big Biden win’ scenario, each of our exercises reached the brink of catastrophe, with massive disinformation campaigns, violence in the streets and a constitutional impasse.”

Reaction from some WaPo readers amounted to “Bring it.”

The Transition Integrity Project is described by Wikipedia as “a bipartisan group of over 100 current and former senior government and campaign leaders, academics, journalists, polling experts and former federal and state government officials formed out of concern about potential disruptions to 2020 United States presidential election and transition by the RNC. The organization was formed in late 2019.” Apparently, all of these people think President Donald Trump will lose in November and they are already planning for a change of leadership, and for trouble should he refuse to leave office.

As only people convinced of their own intellectual superiority can do, this “bipartisan group” imagined only four possibilities, as detailed by Brooks: “A narrow Biden win; a big Biden win, with a decisive lead in both the electoral college and the popular vote; a Trump win with an electoral college lead but a large popular-vote loss, as in 2016; and finally, a period of extended uncertainty as we saw in the 2000 election.”

They left out a fifth possible scenario which self-styled progressives arrogantly cannot envision: A huge Trump win in the Electoral College and with a popular vote impossible to overcome, even if every cemetery resident in America votes Democrat.

It is in this environment that the Second Amendment Foundation’s recently-launched “Second Amendment First Responder” initiative is likely to take on far greater importance than even SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb might have imagined.

The 2A First Responder project just expanded its scope of television advertising, reaching new audiences via DirecTV to subscribers of Fox News, Fox Business, CNBC, CNN, The Weather Channel, MSNBC, American Heroes channel, and History channel, and on DISH to Fox subscribers, plus Newsmax, One America News and Fox News in several local markets.

Public response to the campaign so far has been strong, Gottlieb said in a news release.

“There has never been a more critical moment for law-abiding Americans to step forward and defend their right to keep and bear arms,” Gottlieb said, “and that’s what Second Amendment First Responders is really all about. We’re not promoting a candidate or a political party, just a worthy cause.”

Timing, as the saying goes, is everything, and SAF’s 2A First Responder project appears to have been timed perfectly.

An opinion piece in the Western Journal by Randy DeSoto put the Washington Post article in perspective.

“The Washington Post has taken fearmongering to a whole new level, projecting that all election scenarios but a Joe Biden landslide will result in violence and chaos in the streets,” DeSoto wrote.

For the past three-plus months, Americans have gotten a daily dose of street violence on the evening news, so Prof. Brooks’ closing sentence that “if things go as badly as our exercises suggest they might, a sustained, nonviolent protest movement may be America’s best and final hope,” might require more than the proverbial grain of salt to digest. Protests that have plagued cities including New York, Portland, Seattle, Chicago and elsewhere have hardly been “nonviolent,” and she should know that.

These news reports have fueled gun sales, say some observers, and raised concerns that if “the mob” does not get its way, violence that so far has hit business districts will spread to the suburbs.

The Daily Beast recently reported “A coalition of leading progressive groups gathered on Zoom to begin organizing for what they envision as the post-Election Day political apocalypse scenario.”

“Apocalypse” might not be too strong a word, considering recent revelations about gun and ammunition purchasing that include at least 5 million new gun owners in the mix. The potential for trouble seems only to gain credibility considering the current push to defund and even disband police agencies, and the recent retirements of top law enforcement officials in several cities.

But there is an interesting angle in this recent gun buying, according to a recent poll released by the Dallas Morning News and University of Texas at Tyler. According to this survey, “Just over a third of Texans polled say they own at least one gun. Some 17% of gun owners bought a gun within the past 90 days, and of those, more than half were first-time buyers.”

Even more interesting is the revelation that “First-time gun buyers favor Biden over Trump, in fact, 51% of first-time purchasers surveyed favored Biden, while 43% favored Trump.”

If trouble actually does erupt, the nation’s far-left establishment would face a dilemma. Who would they call for help when – not “if” – angry conservatives fight back? Would they expect to be rescued by police they’ve been trying to place on the unemployment lines for the past six months?

Perhaps the left’s problem is best illustrated by the recent announcement from Sheriff Dave Wedding of Vanderburgh County, Ind. He appeared on Fox News’ “Fox & Friends” program to explain why he has left the Democratic Party.

“As a law enforcement leader, I can’t imagine 101 days of rioting, and it is condoned by the Democratic leadership,” Sheriff Wedding stated. “It’s unbelievable that they can do that to a law enforcement professional. As a sheriff, I could not imagine putting my deputies on the front lines of these riots night after night with no relief in sight.”

Brooks’ WaPo essay attempted to provide some perspective, as if to explain this is all a bunch of think tank conjecture. However, such provocative “conjecture” could be interpreted as a threat if Trump is re-elected.

She writes, “(W)e built a series of war games, sought out some of the most accomplished Republicans, Democrats, civil servants, media experts, pollsters and strategists around, and asked them to imagine what they’d do in a range of election and transition scenarios.

“A landslide for Joe Biden resulted in a relatively orderly transfer of power,” Brooks said. “Every other scenario we looked at involved street-level violence and political crisis.”

Is that merely harmless hypothesizing or radical left wishful thinking?

The Transition Integrity Project apparently lacks the integrity to acknowledge a Trump landslide with coattails long enough to take the House Speaker gavel away from Nancy Pelosi for good this time just might occur. There would be no “transition” at all, and the Republic would remain, with all Ten Amendments in the Bill of Rights fully protected.

Taken at face value, the Brooks dissertation may seem as much a threat as think tank conjecture about potential consequences to an election that leaves President Trump in the Oval Office and the political left in tatters.

In one of the scenarios detailed by Prof. Brooks in her Washington Post piece, again envisioning a Trump defeat, she suggests, “Massive pro-Biden street protests begin, demanding that Trump concede.” This scenario suggests Trump would tweet to his supporters that “real patriots” would confront “these Antifa terrorists” and prevent them from stealing the election.

Suggesting street violence could erupt if Biden doesn’t displace the president seems to lay the groundwork for excusing such activity in the event Trump wins re-election.

Obviously, these think tank elitists expect Trump to lose. They should consult Hillary Rodham Clinton about that before planning a victory dance.

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About Dave WorkmanDave Workman

Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.

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Rock
Rock
5 days ago

TRUMP is going to win by a LANDSLIDE, these socialist snowflakes will be VAPORIZED !

RoyD
RoyD
6 days ago

From “Thuban” on AR15.com: “Ya know what needs to happen? Someone in a position of power needs to start using RICO laws against ANTIFA, BLM, and the rest of the Leftist establishment. And this means seizing the assets of universities which have allowed these groups and other radical Marxist groups to recruit or organize on their campus. Allowing those groups on campus should be seen as the equivalent of allowing the Ku Klux Klan to organize on campus or to have professors openly teaching Klan level racism in class. Then appoint someone who is a bit to the Right of… Read more »

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Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
6 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

You’re watching a movie that is teaching you who your enemies are, it’s interactive, better than 3D.

Gotta learn the hard way because people have been indoctrinated to think reality is a conspiracy theory and that it is only in 3D.

The ride just started so relax because the best is yet to come.

Watch the video and learn who our enemies are.

https://www.facebook.com/BUSINESSVENUS/videos/338464473831399

Rock
Rock
5 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

Remove that head………………

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 days ago

I sent a message similar to this the President Trump on White House.Gov/contact. Sir, this is a no way I request that you get involved this is just a message I’m sending out to the over 22 million military veterans that we have in our nation they can provide the solution this country needs for resolving peace in the Riot tour in cities across the country. This is a shout out or call out to all US Marine 03 MOS and US Army 11 Bravo MOS, Navy Corpsman, Army Medics, Communications and 02 Military Intelligence shops, ALL MUST BE Honoably… Read more »

Last edited 6 days ago by USMC0351Grunt
tetejaun
tetejaun
6 days ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

As General George Washington did, HE stood tall and with no expectation of a pass, he FOUGHT against the enemies of our Great Nation. You should not expect the same to happen today: Sloth, self-indulgence, cowardice and covetousness have most Americans ready to kneel to communism. I did not renew my memberships at the VFW and American Legion as the members there, many with ‘skulls’ on their vehicles and motorcycles in a lame attempt to pretend they were tough, were just too concerned with their personal comfort and sloth. When just asking about the Chinese communists being allowed to port… Read more »

MarkE
MarkE
7 days ago

The specter of violence if Trump wins isn’t limited to the right. A Biden victory portends gun “control”/confiscation, abdication of 1st Amendment protections relating to freedom of speech, massive income/wealth redistribution, politically targeted, ever-increasing taxation, explosive governmental regulation over an ever-expanding list of personal/private affairs (employment/hiring, housing, education, property rights)…the list goes on. Does the left think that none of these “progressive” intents are not going to lead to potential “violence”? When there is left-wing desire and action to tear down the Washington Monument, “revert” Mount Rushmore, demonize the totality of Western Civilization as nothing more than evil and, in… Read more »

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Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
7 days ago
Reply to  MarkE

Yeppers, the left will be shooting the left here long before the left gets to the right and that’s why I stay stocked up on popcorn for the show. I say let em fight, stay out of the way. No sense of getting in the middle of the enemy while they’re destroying themselves.

Last edited 7 days ago by Patriot Solutions
gregs
gregs
7 days ago

i saw this the other day and thought this is par for the course. leftists always do what they claim conservatives are doing, it is called projection, a psychologic malady. they are incapable of telling the truth. like pelosi blaming the hair salon that she called, and blaming them, the flynn case, collusion with russia… law-abiding citizens are constantly being blamed for things they have never done, in order to convince those of low intelligence that it is so, i.e., all the mass murderers are nra members, the riots are mostly peaceful. it won’t change until they are soundly defeated… Read more »

Morrigan
Morrigan
7 days ago

ANTIFA/BLM have thus far been given a open field to run in for a number
of reasons that I find unfathomable.
Their enablers seem to think that if they can
steal the coming election that everyone will just cue up and sing hosannas
as their freedoms are shredded by President Ho or whomever steps into the office when Biden inevitably falls on his face. We shall see.

gregs
gregs
7 days ago
Reply to  Morrigan

an open field doesn’t provide any cover or concealment.

Ron from Auburn
Ron from Auburn
7 days ago

The research points to data that indicates more new gun owners are libs, which doesn’t surprise me. They are prepping for a shooting war. I believe Trump will win, and the left will fulfill their promise of blood in the streets. Keep in mind they have already developed their infrastructure to support insurrection, and though we, the conservatives, have talked about it we are not nearly as organized as they are.

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
7 days ago

It’s all blue here so I’m waiting for the shooting to start to find my red brothers and sisters. Much easier to see who is really on my side when they are shooting at the same people as myself. For me being “unorganized” is a benefit and great place to thrive for those who have never worshiped a master and never will. Until then I’m going to keep adding names to my list of those who try to muzzle me and lose their jobs at local retail outlets as a result for such ignorance of the law and I do… Read more »

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Happy Everafter
Happy Everafter
7 days ago

My wife is a diehard democrat, increasingly leaning even further left. She says antifa is a creation of FOX News, doesn’t really exist. Just so you guys know that you are all wrong. She also believes Trump will be coming for our guns using his private army. This is so you (we) understand, these Op-Ed pieces, while to us appear totally biased to the left, are simply verifying their thoughts and beliefs and convictions. There is no way to win if you back Trump. Only a Biden win and continued big government intrusion will be our salvation. But we’re safe… Read more »

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StLPro2A
StLPro2A
7 days ago

Well, your one vote cancels ONE of her votes if she is a good Liberal. Is she hoarding postage stamps?????

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 days ago

Our hearts go out to you.

Boz
Boz
7 days ago

ßring î†! We’II put your cranky åßßés down for a dîr† ñåp.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
7 days ago

AMAC ran a poll on the NRA, which is related in that the Left holds them, Trump and every gun owner responsible for the rioting rather than the rioters.
https://amac.us/poll/what-is-your-view-of-the-national-rifle-association-nra/
What’s interesting is the split in the commenters between those who see the NRA as being an issue and those who see it as God’s messenger on earth. Read the comments, there isn’t any place to make an appropriate choice in the survey, to my mind anyway.

Elisa Delaurenti
Elisa Delaurenti
7 days ago

They not only hold us law abiding gun owners responsible for their riots, firebombings and murder sprees, they also hold us responsible for their own mass murderers who use guns to commit their heinous crimes. If we were as violent and volatile as the leftists try to make us out to be, and our guns were as “violent” as they claim they are, there would be no more of them left breathing our air.

JIAZ
JIAZ
7 days ago

Those who see the NRA as “God’s messenger on earth” are either uninformed newbies or out-of-touch Fudds.

N,R,A, N-ot R-elevant A-nymore.

“Non-Profit” my A$$.

KDad
KDad
7 days ago

Sounds like she’s trying to scare the stupid low IQ voters into voting for Biden! When President Trump wins, he will put an end to street violence, looting and arson rather quickly!

catmsfa
catmsfa
7 days ago

They mention people are buying guns and half are Democrats. So what?. How many of them actually know what they’re do with a gun? If they think that showing up with a gun or bluffing someone is going to end a fight. Then they’re really pushing their luck. If using a gun is the requirement to win. They’re screwed. Like the couple in Missouri with unloaded/non working guns threatening a BLM crowd. How about the Left Wing militia (NFAC) who shot each other and then tried to give a bizarre explanation (especially to anyone that knows how a AR-15 actually… Read more »

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
7 days ago

Deep state members, think tank brains, WAPO, Georgetown Liberal college and swamp monsters with TDS, do you think they are to be believed in their fantasy of getting rid of Trump.
I am sick of these pukes getting attention trying to influence the upcoming election with their liberal agenda, if Biden wins our economy will go in the toilet so fast and the people will be devastated even more than it has been since the first of the year thanks to covid.

Elisa Delaurenti
Elisa Delaurenti
7 days ago
Reply to  uncle dudley

Agree, but there is nothing at all “liberal” about those monsters. They’re hard core leftist marxist communists.

Camotim
Camotim
7 days ago

Do the dumb ass liberals really want to bring out the armed supporters of the President to protect their votes?

ForsakenConstitution
ForsakenConstitution
7 days ago
Reply to  Camotim

Yes, they do.

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
7 days ago

well as you said in the article i’m one of those suburbanites that feel as others……BRING IT!!! I’m Locked&Loaded already!I have been watching the crap on t.v. long enough to know whats up! I live in N.J. and know what being in a blue states means! I thank GOD every day i live in a “red” county and the 1st 2A sanctuary county in the state!Antifa/BLM have come here more then once and in each case they were controlled and put in a parking lot separate from the general population of American citizens that were there to enjoy the area.I… Read more »

JPM
JPM
7 days ago

I’m not losing any sleep over anything printed in the Washington Post and I damn sure am not worried about the liberals becoming violent on my street.

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BigMikeU
BigMikeU
7 days ago
Reply to  JPM

BINGO! I know that i have two police officers that live less then a block from my home and we “all” in our small coldisack neighborhood with one way in and the same way out with dense woods and swamp on three sides would be a death trap to any antifa/BLM/CAIR/Moslem Brotherhood members come here!They have all partnered and one of the reasons there is so much violence these days!Its time to start thinning the herd! Its time we cleansed our country of all those that would hurt it or us! Moslems have been and are still Banned from American… Read more »

CommonSense4America
CommonSense4America
7 days ago
Reply to  BigMikeU

A cul-de-sac,,,sounds like a circular firing squad to me.

Neanderthal75
Neanderthal75
7 days ago

Really,

That was your only point of contention with his comments?

The level of anal-retentiveness that you are showing is utterly appalling!

cheers from the oil patch in Central Wyoming

Degforyou
Degforyou
6 days ago

If u fill lucky, u go ahead and try ur luck going in that cul-de-sac. In my opinion, u will not walk out.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
7 days ago
Reply to  JPM

EXACTLY!! Even at age 70 – although I’m certainly not what I used to be, physically – I do still retain the knowledgeable, training, intelligence, and skills (particularly marksmanship!) to be useful to the conservative cause.

PAF145
PAF145
7 days ago

If Biden wins these animals will see it as a go ahead to continue -when they get out side their safe liberal cities,it will end quickly for them

SEMPAI
SEMPAI
7 days ago
Reply to  PAF145

You sir are correct when they leave the liberal cities..but they won’t they know better. All it will take is MR MICROPHONE to explode (usually an antifa agitator) to make people realize shit just got real, and I’m not bringing frozen water or a Louisville slugger.

Last edited 7 days ago by SEMPAI
Rowboat
Rowboat
7 days ago
Reply to  SEMPAI

Just as we learned in sniper school, the guy doing the arm waving and pointing is the leader you want to take out first.
In the riot scenarios, the one with the bullhorn gets the first bullet.

SEMPAI
SEMPAI
7 days ago
Reply to  Rowboat

@Rowboat
He gets it , we shall see just how dedicated the WHITE millenials doing all the work really are.

CommonSense4America
CommonSense4America
7 days ago
Reply to  Rowboat

Is that like in the old cowboy movies? The Indian with the big feather headdress is the one to shoot first?

Joe
Joe
7 days ago

Right on, know your target !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe
Joe
7 days ago
Reply to  SEMPAI

Right on, know your target !!

Chas
Chas
7 days ago

Threatening me with violence, does not a vote make!

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
7 days ago
Reply to  Chas

Threatening me or my family or my home with violence, instantly and permanently forfeits the threatener’s breathing privileges, without discussion.

With abject apologies to Leonidas… “Molon Labe, motherf**kers!”

Last edited 7 days ago by JoeUSooner
Finnky
Finnky
7 days ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

– Presenting a credible threat earns the right to a nice quiet dirt nap. If threat stops, so does shooting. However running away does not necessarily end threat status – if they appear to be running for cover to resume the attack. Anyone instigating violence is assumed to be continuing until definitively proven otherwise.

Ryben Flynn
Ryben Flynn
7 days ago

As usual WaPo gets it bassackwards. If a “big Biden win” should happen everything will get worse as the Dims encourage this behavior.

PAF145
PAF145
7 days ago
Reply to  Ryben Flynn

Exactly-and it will be time for true Americans to knock them down

RoyD
RoyD
7 days ago
Reply to  Dave Workman

I don’t know of a single publication that blindly posts opinion pieces. They are either printing what they think are facts or opinions to support their point of view. Occasionally they will post opposing views so they can claim to be objective. And that is fine, you just have to realize what is going on. And opposition research is not a bad thing.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
7 days ago
Reply to  Ryben Flynn

Sadly, everything will get worse regardless of the election’s outcome. A Trump win will enrage the rioters, while a Biden win will be interpreted as support for the rioters… either way, the result is further rioting. Be prepared.

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
7 days ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

Trump has stated that after the election that he would use the Insurrection Act to stop the violence. We shall see.

Will
Will
7 days ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

The rioters as you put it are about to find out how little support they have on 3Nov.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
7 days ago

Even more interesting is the revelation that “First-time gun buyers favor Biden over Trump, in fact, 51% of first-time purchasers surveyed favored Biden, while 43% favored Trump.” Ya, I believe what this says is right because the survey is done by the university of texas and reported by the dallas morning news and conducted in a left leaning town. I’m sure if one looks into it you will find that dallas is demonrat heavy and the dallas morning news is a left leaning paper. This is as good as when The University of Davis kommiefornia conducted as study and found… Read more »

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
7 days ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

I have left-leaning friends that do vote Democrat that recently stated they will be voting for Trump. I did not solicit their opinion, they offered without being questioned. I believe the polls will be horribly wrong again. Their rationale was that the Democratic leaders are fomenting the violence in the streets and, as non-firearm owners, are afraid of the violence. I am not afraid, but I am concerned and I am prepared – as best able. I believe that is the difference between the Left and the Right.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
7 days ago

What the hell ammoland. I received this email at 4:05 am. There are posts on here that are 11 hours old. Am I the last guy on the list to get the email. I thought computers were faster than that.

As far as the election goes, it doesn’t matter how it turns out the end result will be bad and what I heard today is if it is contested by both sides, Nancy Pelosi will become president. God help us all.

Ansel Hazen
Ansel Hazen
7 days ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Buy Guns. Buy Ammo or get to reloading. Join your states Militia. Be ready to contest any election fraud with lead.

Joe
Joe
7 days ago
Reply to  Ansel Hazen

RIGHT ON BROTHER !!!

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
6 days ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Musicman44mag,
The delivery problem isn’t on this end. The posts go out at a specific time. After that when you see them is up to your ISP. Some have faster throughput than others. Consider who your ISP is and run a speed test on them. That won’t tell you everything, but it’s a start. If you get good download speeds, the problem is in their servers. It may be filtering, deliberate throttling or other things. Only they can tell you, if they will, what the problem is. Give them a call.

Darkman
Darkman
8 days ago

Oh Please Please gimme some Gimme some. The Purge is Nigh.

RoyD
RoyD
8 days ago

Some day it might not be in a “Foreign Land.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4MJXjmHjY

RoyD
RoyD
8 days ago

I don’t care. I am ready in all respects.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
8 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

RoyD,
Yup. My wife is very concerned, I’m not so much. Whatever happens will happen and I’ll deal with it at that time. In the mean time, People need to get the hamster in their head off the wheel. They’re just making themselves nuts and going nowhere. One of my sig lines says, “I’ve been shot before. It pisses me off. What doesn’t kill me better start running.”
See ya on the other side.

RoyD
RoyD
8 days ago

As an aside, my eldest (who is a financial whizbang) and I met with the guy taking care of my money. After they talked shop for an hour and a half we got down to what we were there for. His mistake was asking what I thought about the upcoming election. Well, I told him I thought Trump would win the Electorial vote and lose the popular. I also told him what the mood was for continued foolishness from the left after the election, win or lose. My son told him that if he needed ammo to go to my… Read more »

Will
Will
8 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

Off topic but has anyone heard from Wild Bill. It seems like months since he posted. I sure hope BILL IS OK!

Green Mtn. Boy
Green Mtn. Boy
8 days ago
Reply to  Will

Will I too have been missing the words and wisdom of Wild Bill,I hope our pard is fine and dandy but with the time past I worry also as none of us are getting any younger.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
7 days ago
Reply to  Will

Will,
I’ve tried reaching out to WB and The Revelator. I got bounces at both of their e-mails. Anybody who knows anything please let us know.

willyd
willyd
7 days ago

WB and THE REVELATOR, MIA any word as to has anybody heard from them kind of concerning!!!!!

Oldvet
Oldvet
7 days ago

in Fairfax…Last conversation I had with WB he said he and a neighbor had a truck loaded with arms and provisions ready to deploy and he had an old horse with a sore foot he was tending to . Hope the old horse didn’t kick him in the head . Havent heard any thing from Vanns 40 either he might have info but that may have been by email also .

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
7 days ago
Reply to  Oldvet

Oldvet,
I got an e-mail back from WB. He’s got a computer problem I’m trying to work out with him.

I think that Revelator has moved form MI to OH, I’m still trying to track him down. Revelator, if you’re copying the mail, pop your head up and let us know. You know how to get ahold of me.

Oldvet
Oldvet
7 days ago

… Thanks it’s not like the Col to go AWOL . He’s been off line for 2 to 3 months .

Will
Will
7 days ago

,thanks so much for letting us know that about Bill. That is a relief knowing that he is OK. Thanks again.

Green Mtn. Boy
Green Mtn. Boy
8 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

Roy

I too find reloading very relaxing with a side benefit, more ammo.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
7 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

RoyD,
I guess it’s a little late to mention that Gray Man thing, huh?

RoyD
RoyD
7 days ago

I prefer black and white.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
7 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

Me too, gets me in trouble routinely.

Rowboat
Rowboat
7 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

I load ammo with the time I used to watch football- although I do miss the beer I had watching football ; doesn’t go well with reloading !

Vern
Vern
7 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

9mm is pretty hard to carry in bulk, unless you plan to stay in one place. If you want some real fire power you might check into a real 9mm power house, 350 Legend. You can get 2500 FPS out of it and that will go through 32 inches of ballistic gel and still go through wood and deep in sand bags. If you zero at 100 yards it only drops 4 inches at 200 yards and still has nearly 1300 pounds of energy. I have also hit targets at 520 yards with it and the steel still makes a… Read more »

RoyD
RoyD
7 days ago
Reply to  Vern

I one have one semi rifle and that is 5.56. For a little more stroke downrange I have a bolt action 358 Win and a 375 Ruger bolt gun. Then there is always the 45-70 for the “heavy” bullets. And plenty of ammo to feed them all.

Vern
Vern
7 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

I have an upper for the 5.56 and the 350, plenty of action in those two. I like the the 6.5 creed for heavier stuff. Two shoulder replacements on the same shoulder won’t let me use anything with heavier recoil. But I have lots of range with the creed.

Knute
Knute
7 days ago
Reply to  RoyD

I’m hereby going to predict that Trump will win by 75%+ of the popular vote. For enough of a mandate to do whatever unconstitutional acts that he desires to commit will require that big of a win, so that is what I think will happen.
Trump is going to be everybody’s “savior”, or so the gullible will be led to believe…

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
7 days ago
Reply to  Knute

I’m have predicted Chidens eyeball will pop out before election day while he is stumbling & stammering at the podium and it will bounce off the podium and hit the ground then roll away leaving a slinky spring bouncing around on his face dangling out of his eye socket and not a single person or the media will even notice.

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RoyD
RoyD
6 days ago
Reply to  Knute

This was Oklahoma’s results last time:

Republican Donald Trump 949,136 65.32% 7 Electoral

JIAZ
JIAZ
8 days ago

“A landslide for Joe Biden resulted in a relatively orderly transfer of power, Brooks said” That’s a leftist, elitist, pipe dream. A Biden landslide will be seen as a green light to Antifa / BLM thugs that they’ve “won”. They’ll be emboldened to continue intimidation violence more than ever before. Democratic-socialist politicians “think” they can turn off the violent mobs, but they can’t. They’ve lost all control of the marxist movement they thought they were in charge of. A Trump victory of course will be seen as an excuse to keep rioting for “justice” and “equality”. Either way November 2020… Read more »

Ansel Hazen
Ansel Hazen
8 days ago
Reply to  JIAZ

A landslide for Hidin’ Biden will be proof positive that the election was rigged. There’s a whole ‘nother scenario these think tank fatheads haven’t even considered. That’s when we take our Founding Fathers at their word and provide New Guards for our future security.

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
8 days ago
Reply to  Ansel Hazen

They’re hiring, were posting…………..

https://twitter.com/MAJMO50/status/1304466730509574144/photo/1

They got the pro bono……………

https://lccrsf.org/

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musicman44mag
musicman44mag
7 days ago
Reply to  Ansel Hazen

I hope it doesn’t come to that but I no longer believe it will never happen.

MAGAA 2020

Patriot Solutions
Patriot Solutions
7 days ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Hopefully you have a list including locations of all those [clowns] who are running them from behind the scenes because if you don’t then they will be replaced as fast as you can get rid of them, possibly even with replicas since everybody knows they have been cloning themselves for decades.

Then there is the kin who you’re gonna have to find and knowing how many of them have changed their names it could prove a difficult task.

https://twitter.com/intheMatrixxx/status/1304830092015742977

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Joe
Joe
7 days ago
Reply to  JIAZ

Get your Militia (Communutiy Safety Guards) organized and in place, check out http://www.mtssa.org .