NAACP’s ‘Stand Your Ground’ Lies Won’t Die with DeWine’s Bill Approval

“The NAACP will continue to fight for the removal of Stand Your Ground laws in every state, and we will not rest until racial profiling in all its forms is outlawed.” Only one problem: A Stand Your Ground defense was not presented. (NAACP/Facebook)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Gov. Mike DeWine on Monday signed a controversial ‘stand your ground’ bill that would eliminate Ohio’s ‘duty to retreat’ before using force in self-defense,” Cleveland.com reports. “The governor had previously hinted that he would veto SB175, saying he first wanted lawmakers to pass his package of gun reforms that they sat on for more than a year.”

DeWine has been on again and off again with his gun-grabber roots over the years. About the only thing gun owners can be certain of is the politician the Brady Campaign once endorsed as a “principled statesman” made his decision to sign the bill based on weighing political consequences, and went with the choice that would best serve his interests.

The problem with that is, politics and interests generally come down to swaying public opinion with memes, and parroting those is something the DSM (Duranty/Streicher Media) specializes in. Case in point, note how before DeWine had signed the bill, ABC’s Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO9, was giving voice to demonstrably false claims by “the local chapter of the NAACP” (as an aside, shouldn’t it now be the “NAAPOC”?).

Why should they object?

“(The law) will result in the deaths of more African Americans based solely on the fact that they are unfairly perceived as being a threat,” Cincinnati NAACP President Joe Mallory claimed. “Stand Your Ground legislation will unduly justify the murder of innocent people, particularly innocent Black people whose suspicion of being a threat is actually based on racial prejudice, racial hatred, and racial perceptions, none of which have any basis in fact.”

“Studies have shown that a white person will be able to use self-defense as their defense, and a Black person tries to use the same thing, and they don’t end up being able to use that with much success as their white counterparts can,” Mallory added.

Examining his concerns, particularly on whether or not threat perception is “solely” based on prejudice, we find that, as with all areas of “science,” the statistics are not without bias. Based on who is doing the reporting, population differentials in crime rates either show one demographic is disproportionately violent, or else that’s simply “white supremacist propaganda.” We’re not going to unravel that here except to make a few observations brought into focus by some representative end-of-year mainstream reports:

We could go on, but I’ll leave it to those who insist it’s racist to draw any further conclusions to unpack the stats. Those of us who believe in the right to keep and bear arms are just interested in the rights of all people being protected from unjust aggression, regardless of skin color. Slaves. After all, aren’t allowed to own guns.

Revealingly, the NAACP does not share that interest. Forgetting “The Racist Roots of Gun Control” and the Deacons for Defense and Justice,  the group instead demands citizen disarmament. And like all gun-grabbers, they can’t make their case without resorting to falsehoods, as their MoveOn.org petition that urged DeWine to veto the “stand your ground” bill shows (interestingly, one that failed to attract enough signatures despite plenty of free media publicity):

“This reality was the basis for the unjustified shooting deaths of Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin, and countless other African Americans that have been shot and killed in spite of the fact that they posed no threat of harm to themselves or the community in which they lived.”

Rice, who was pointing an airsoft replica gun at random people and waving it around, was shot by police after refusing to show his hands when ordered. A grand jury refused to indict after viewing surveillance video evidence. In any case, it had nothing to do with “stand your ground” laws and everything to do with one of NAACP’s goals—that citizens be disarmed, and police be the “Only Ones” allowed to deploy with guns.

Likewise in terms of “pos[ing] no threat”, Martin was in the process of straddling “white Hispanic” George Zimmerman and beating his head into the ground. And contrary to the lies told by those who use that incident to discredit “stand your ground” laws, George Zimmerman’s legal defense did not use that argument.

So why bring up two cases that had nothing to do with what they’re petitioning against?

If anything, as an economist, researcher, and author John Lott demonstrates, “blacks benefit most from Stand Your Ground laws”:

“Blacks may make up just 16.6 percent of Florida’s population, but they account for over 31 percent of the state’s defendants invoking a Stand Your Ground defense. Black defendants who invoke this statute to justify their actions are acquitted 8 percent more frequently than whites who use that same defense.”

Perhaps NAACP opposition to an armed citizenry, self-defense, and  “the security of a free State” has less to do with “commonsense gun safety laws” and more to do with advancing the agenda of a key founder, lifelong socialist and late-in-life self-outed Communist Party supporter W.E.B. DuBois.


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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7shooter

Trayvon was just a thug and got what he deserved.

Dee

Pussy!!

Jonesy

Yup, you, are!

Dee

Post what you think on your public media page about what he deserved:)

RoyD

I’ll bet that your Dad is real proud of you. Oh, that’s right……

Dee

Extremely!! I’m sure my dad is much smarter then yours. And he also voted for the newly elected Senators from GA. Lol. You like that don’t ya? Lol

RoyD

Well, I’m glad he could make his mark.

Deg4u

You say you are a pussy?

Morrigan

Although an attempt was made to hide it, we know the reason that Trayvon got himself shot. Zimmerman has had his life ruined because he did not let a thug end it prematurely. If you think this is bad wait until our new “duly elected” government gets rolling.

Warlok11

If zimmerman had minded his business, both him and trayvon would be enjoying normal life. WHAT CRIMINAL ACT WAS TRAYVON INVOLVED IN PRIOR TO CONTACT WITH ZIMMERMAN ? None of you closet racists have asked, or evem contemplated that question have you ? Zimmerman criminalized him because of his race, he attacked him, and was getting his ass kicked by a kid, without the gun, he couldn’t even beat a kid up. Zimmerman was a thug, and a bully, that got off of a murder charge by a racist technicality, and an ALL WHITE JURY. ( imagine that, this is… Read more »

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RoyD

Not sorry your boy lost. If only you had been there to protect him. Well, then there would have been two rather than one.

Dee

RoyDick you lost homie. You really an idiot.

RoyD

I’ll bet, given your post, that you spend a lot of time thinking about dicks.

RoyD

LOL! Dat boy, Dee, he be salivatin over all dem dicks. He sho nuff do!

Dee

Can’t help it, I lead with mine!!

Dave in Fairfax

Dee,

If you are being honest, then I was wrong about you being a woman.
OTOH, you’ve proven the the old big head-little head thing.
You’ve also voted for a pair that has no use for the Constitution. Regardless of anything else, that means that I have no use for you.

Dee

See Dave that’s why this country is the way it is. I was kool when you thought differently but now I’m not?? Do better Dave. Be better!! I know you quite font understand democracy but I’ll educate ya any day you want. But you probably have your tail between your legs like your god Trump.

Dave in Fairfax

Dee, You misunderstood me horribly. I never thought that you were cool. I pitied you for your lack of ability to reason and unwillingness to better yourself. I attempted to help you learn, I disagreed when others made fun of you for your lack of knowledge and sense, but I would do that for anyone. It isn’t personal, it’s business. You said that I “quite font understand democracy but I’ll educate ya any day you want.” I don’t have any idea what that means, so please DO educate me. I assure you, I’ve never tucked my tail, and while I… Read more »

Mike the Limey

If we all sat back & let violent thugs keep on committing crimes, took no notice of who was walking through our neighbourhood & ignored anything outside our little bubble, society would look just like Chicago – shining example of how the crap you espouse kills more & more black people than whitey ever did & it’s blacks doing the killing.
Take your accusations of racism & shove them where the sun never reaches & your brain resides.

Camotim

The NAACP is the National Association of Advanced Communist Prevaricators.

Dee

Ammoland going to shit like Parlor and Trumps Twitter. Wait!! Both on them shits are already canceled. Lol. Go eat a dick dude!!

RoyD

There you go projecting again. I know, you just can’t help it. Poor thing.

Chris T in KY

WEB DuBois did not co-found the NAACP. He was the later employee, hired by the white communists who created this communist front organization. They needed a black face to get blacks to support and join the group. The JPFO knows a great deal about just how anti civil rights the white communists can be. It was Aaron Zelman, using the research of Clayton E Creamer, who first spoke about the “Racist Roots of Gun Control”, on my local radio station. Back in 1994. And that was the year I joined the JPFO. Long before I joined the NRA. I would… Read more »

Gern Rockler

Thank you for the much needed correction.

Mack

You are exactly correct.

I know this because of the book “Negroes with Gun” by Robert Williams.

I invite EVERYONE here (including you, David Codrea) to read this critical excerpt from his book.

https://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/maai3/protest/text6/williamsnegroeswithguns.pdf

Dee

Like Trump lies!!! Lol

Warlok11

So, did trayvon martin violate ANY laws in that community prior to meeting george zimmerman ?

Finnky

@Warlok – How is that relevant? Do you think someone has to break a law before you can talk to them?

In some ways I could think I’m lucky to not have met you – as I tend to greet and speak with a large fraction of people I encounter. Fortunately people with attitudes such as yours are generally recognizable through their demeanor. I will admit that I may be less skillful reading facial expressions on black people, however I’m certain your anger, racism and general thugness is written all over your body.

Mike the Limey

He violated several the moment he attacked Zimmerman & tried to break his head open on the concrete, numbnuts.

TNJEWBOY

Aaron was a friend of mine.

nrringlee

The false analogy is a critical tool in the propaganda tool box of the Progressive New Left. They misdirect the circumstances surrounding the Martin/Zimmerman case to draw a false conclusion. Without hyperbole, emotional false analogies and outright lies the left would have no means to argue their case against liberty.

Tionico

This is one of the ten tactics explained and promoted by Saul Alinksy in his book Rules for Radicals. I am quite convinced that the poohbahs at NAAPOC took up that communist revolutionary text as theyr latest bible as they surged into prominence during the civil rights days in the time of MLKing. I’ve always wondered why that group did not go after FBI and company for the assassination of their supposed hero. The evidence is overwhelming. If black punks don’t want to get themeslves shot dead, I’d recommend they stop doing things like gronding and pounding citizens who take… Read more »

cav2108

NAACP. Always looking to portray criminals as some sort of heroes. Anyone that thinks criminals can BE heroes has a really serious sociopathic view of the world, or they are simply very very stupid. The classic “my son shouldn’t have to fear for his life every time he is burglarizing a home or robbing a store” syndrome. Just stop the criminal behavior and no one will bother you, you psychopathic criminal morons.

Tionico

Let the would be thugs and housebreakers and thieves move to California, particular San Francisco, where such behaviour is no longer criminal. I am eagerly watching that situation to see how long it takes before the wealthy go about with hired armed guards everywhere, and the rabble, er, squeeze me, normal fokes, eventually refuse to bear the anarchy any longer,, and move away from that SHole state. I used to live there years ago, considered moving back about ten years ago, and am glad I did not. I’d just have tomove out again. WHY wants endure that nonsense? I can… Read more »

Warlok11

How could trayvon have broken into houses when he hadn’t,xt been in that community long enough to steal anything ? He was killed because people like you push this narrative, and make weak beta males like zimmerman, feel empowered to be lawless, then you justify his actions with all white juries, and false narratives. George Zommerman had made numerous false reports to police based on race. If you think white men don’t steal, I know a couple of countries full of indigenous people that could tell you different.

gregs

please actually know something before you express yourself. you are convincingly making yourself sound like an idiiot.

Mike the Limey

Oh I don’t think becoming an idiot took much effort on his part…;-)

Mike the Limey

Two words: George Floyd, or is that St George of Thuggery these days.

The left never allows facts to derail their drive to destroy society so they can rebuild it as their socialist Fantasyland.

Mike the Limey

The NAACP is a socialist organisation.
The basic framework of socialism demands a compliant populace.
This cannot happen whilst citizens remain independent in mind, thought & in their ability to defend themselves, their family & their property.
Thus the left will ALWAYS look to disarm the people so that they may be controlled.
Prepare for a serious attempt to do just that once Biden is sidelined once his evident Alzheimer’s can no longer be concealed & Harris installed as POTUS.
Look over here to the UK to see where they want to take you.

RoyD

“Bloody right!”

Dee

Where were you Wednesday? Lol

RoyD

No need for you to know. People like you are not allowed there.

Terry H

Why do they insist on using a 7 year old picture of Trayvon rather than his Thug pics he was posting?

Dr. Strangelove

I don’t care what the NAALCP says, or what color you are, If you attempt to bang my head on the sidewalk, I’ll use all force available to stop the threat.

Warlok11

I don’t care what you say, IF I AM WALKING TO MY HOUSE FROM THE STORE AND YOU HARASS ME I WILL DO MORE THAN BANG YOUR HEAD ON THE SIDEWALK ..

RoyD

Careful, we got a badass over here. LOL!

Dee

Roydick are you BigMad now? Lol

JSNMGC

Warlok11,

Low impulse control has led to a lot of problems:

https://heyjackass.com/

Low impulse control is frequently the result of a dysfunctional micro-culture.

Dee

Must not be a Trump-god supported?

JSNMGC

Please explain your comment and then we can discuss.

You and I started this conversation, I think over a month ago. I’m willing to continue it now. If you open your mind to considering a point of view you’re not going to hear in the media or from the race industry, it may help a lot of people.

Finnky

@Warlok – You say things like that, then whine that wimpy white people fear you and consider you a thug. Could it be that you are discriminated against due to your attitude rather than your color?

Dee

HAHA!! Finicky why sooo serious??

Finnky

So so sorry Dee. Thought there was an opportunity for discussion and possibly real communication. Now I realize you only know how to toss insults at a kindergarten level.

gregs

no one was being harassed. tray-tray was committing aggravated assault on georgie was legally entitled to kill his stupid ass. grow up you child troll.

RoyD

Haven’t you figured it out? He and Dee can’t help it, it be what it be.

Dave in Fairfax

Warlok11,

Let me get this right, you think that the law allows you to meet verbal confrontation with physical assault. That’s interesting. I hope that you don’t own any weapons of any sort. If you have any sort of gun insurance, you won’t be covered if you act on that belief. You’ve now published both willingness and forethought to commit murder. I think that can be used to prove intent.

Finnky

@Dave – I read his statement as even more extreme. Sounds as though in his mind – someone walking down the same street would qualify as harassing him – thus “justifying” murder.
If i am interpreting his words correctly – I’m leaning toward rabid dog treatment. No animosity, just necessity.

Ryben Flynn

“unfairly perceived as being a threat”
12.2 % of the population commits 53.2% of the murders and 57.5% of the robberies.
Other crimes by Blacks average about 30%.
Aggravated assault, larceny, motor vehicle theft, burglary, arson.
FBI Crime statistics Table 21A from 2016. I haven’t found a newer one yet.

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Warlok11

So for that you will kill an innocent kid going to the store huh ?

Jonesy

innocent ? HAHAHA


Mike the Limey

Trayvon Martin was an out of control, violent teenage thug who confronted a concerned citizen, then tried to seriously injure, if not kill him & got shot for it.
Suck it up & learn from it – though your sort never does.

Deg4u

You call a kid going through back yards of a peacefully neighborhood is innocent kid? Your marbles must not go all the way to the top.

Mike the Limey

Hush now, that doesn’t fit the narrative that blacks are hard done by & unfairly viewed with suspicion.

Despite their propensity for committing crimes being global in nature.

Look at any European country & which demographic invariably has a criminal conviction rate WAY above average?
Yep, the very same one & they can’t blame slavery, as it plain wasn’t there.

Snowman88

I dont see color but I do see facts. The national crime database has on average 17 black on black homicides PER DAY over the last 20 years. Do the math, until black people stop killing black people and I really hope they do, it’s hard to think it’s a gun control (with legal background checks for law abiders) issue

Bobocat

Let’s see, are the American Indians complaining, NO, are the Irish in America complaining, NO, are the jews in America complaining, NO, who in this country is complaining and afraid of the Stand Your Ground laws? Why only blacks? The only problems the wife and I have had in parking lots at night have been from blacks. Racist? no, just the facts.

StLPro2A

Your copy mechanism dumps the total typed comment if one uses the automatic spell correcting feature. Real piece of BS!!!!!

Dave in Fairfax

StlPro2A, I’m going to have to assume that the comment is directed to AmmoLand. You didn’t address it. Saying that something is, “Real piece of BS!!!!!” isn’t informative. Can you be clearer about what the problem is? I use spellcheck all the time because my fingers don’t keep up with my head. What “copy mechanism” are you talking about? I just used copy/paste to take that quoted section from your comment and put it into mine without any problem. Auto spell checks, especially on phones, have a long history of doing strange and wonderful things. That is not an issue… Read more »

Finnky

@Dave – When I’ve copied a quote from other messages, even though I’ve only selected a piece, I get the entire message plus AmmoLand title and copyright boiler plate at the bottom. Know it’s happened on iPad, think it’s also happened on PC.
No biggie. Previous post is available, rest reference it. If I have to quote something short, just type it. Quoting something long, just delete extraneous parts. Annoying – yes, slightly. BS – not so much.

Dave in Fairfax

Finnky,

Yes, when you copy some parts of articles you may well get attribution boilerplate, there’s a legal thing going on. When running spellcheck, that shouldn’t be happening, and that’s what he mentioned. That’s why I was, and am, confused.

Knute

That is what happens to me also, on both linux and windows. I don’t use mobiles. I work around it the same way as you do. It is the same on every site nowadays. Copying just the text you highlight is as extinct as the dodo.

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pureamericana

Obvious the Kenyan Mau Mau now steering the radical anti-American (D) Party in DC.

Mack

For those who are interested, please compare NAACP to CORE.

Review the legacy of Roy Innis.

His son, Niger Roy Innis is a wonderful legacy too.

Unlike many in the GOP, he is not afraid. Example:

https://www.thespectrum.com/story/opinion/mesquite/2016/07/31/nevada-question-liberty/87760412/

Mack
hippybiker

A point lost on the hand wringers is. George Zimmerman is an Hispanic who’s father is A Jew! Funny thing about facts!

2NDforever

does this law only apply to white ohioans? or does it apply to all ohioans? all AMERICAN ohioans?

RoyD

Well, it applies to all Ohio citizens who are not barred from carrying a firearm.

Skinny

This is nothing more than more feel good legislation that does nothing but trample on victims & law abiding citizens rights.

Dee

I can’t today with y’all bullshit!! I can’t be kool about what I’m reading. But that’s okay we just elected 2 Senators in my home state. We good dicks!!

Bobocat

Y’all come, cheer.

Dee

Talk all that shit. Followed y’all god to the White House and didn’t do shit and y’all god weaseled his ass back home and then told y’all asses to sit the fuck down and go home. Sound like idiots to me.

Dee

David you’re a freaking idiot!! Period. You must not live in America.

Mike the Limey

Autism?
ADHD?
Or just plain crazy?

You must fit one of those.

Dee

Proud American and I like winners!! Thanks newly-elected Senators from GA!!

Mike the Limey

Ah, educationally sub normal then.

Dee

Dude your brains can’t even hold my cliff notes.

RoyD

I’ll bet you learned that one from dear old Dad. Oh, that’s right…..

Finnky

@Mike – I’ve interacted with many who suffer from ADHD, autism and Downs (not on your list). Attempting to connect Dee to those people is downright offensive. I’m insulted on behalf of my friends.

Have also known crazy. Like Dee they rarely showed up. Unlike Dee you never knew how they’d act – might be normal, even pleasant. Other times they are like Dee and you wish you didn’t have to deal with them… For some, medication helps them hold onto reality. Maybe Dee can get help.

Warlok11

@Morrigan
Why did george zimmerman aproach trayvon martin ? What rights did trayvon have to travel freely without harrassment. You call him a thug, but not the grown man that harrassed a law abiding american minor minding his own business. This shows the racial bias you have, and how willing you are to criminalize an innocent victim simply because of his race.

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AggregatVier

The woman who testified at trial under oath that she spoke to Trayvon just before he was shot, said that Trayvon said he was going to confront Zimmerman. That’s not the version you’ll ever acknowledge, is it, racist?

Whit

He’s also going to ignore all the removed Facebook posts by TM posing with guns and MMA. Probably also ignore that TM was out buying components to make a rough version of Meth. Interesting that he’s making threats as well. If you have a strong argument threats aren’t needed.

Dee

Idiot also cops lie all the time. Talking bout under oath…child please!!!

Jonesy

You are a LIAR, so what is your Problem?

Dee

Nah. Trump is the liar. You like how I did that?

RoyD

LOL!

Dee

RoyDick please!!

RoyD

Dee, too bad you drew the short straw on the gene pool raffle.

Dee

I bet mine MUCH bigger than yours.

RoyD

LOL!

Finnky

@Warlok – It is evident that you have heard completely different versions of the interactions between Travon and George than what the rest of us have heard. Based on what I’ve read, and upon your prior demonstrations, it sounds as though you are viewing this through a rather strongly biased lens. In short it sounds as though you are an extreme racist. Perhaps you can refute some of my impressions of the timeline. 1) Zimmerman was driving around the neighborhood acting as neighborhood watch. 2) George saw Travon acting in a manner which he considered suspicious. 3) George called police… Read more »