Washington: Senate Committee Passes Vague Carry and Magazine Ban

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The NRA-ILA reports multiple anti-gun bills have based the Washington Senate Committee. IMG NRA-ILA

U.S.A. -(AmmoLand.com)- As previously reported, Senate Bill 5078 and Senate Bill 5038 were heard in the Senate Law and Public Justice Committee in January.  During that hearing, these anti-gun measures were substituted, passed, and have been sent to the Senate Rules Committee.

Senate Bill 5078, bans the manufacture, possession, sale, transfer, etc., of magazines that “are capable of holding” or hold more than 17 rounds of ammunition.  (The substituted bill increased the restricted count from 10 to 17). This includes conversion kits or parts from which any such magazine may be assembled.  These so called “high capacity” magazines are in fact standard equipment for commonly-owned firearms that many Americans legally and effectively use for an entire range of legitimate purposes, such as self-defense or competition.  Those who own non-compliant magazines prior to the ban are only allowed to possess them on their own property and in other limited instances such as at licensed shooting ranges or while hunting.  Prohibited magazines have to be transported unloaded and locked separately from firearms and stored at home locked, making them unavailable for self-defense.  Any violation of this measure is a gross misdemeanor punishable by a maximum of 364 days in jail and/or a fine of up to $5,000.

Senate Bill 5038 makes it a crime to openly carry, on the person or in a vehicle, a firearm or other “weapon” if the person is participating in or attending a “permitted demonstration” in a public place. “Permitted demonstration” is defined to mean any behavior by at least one person expressing views or airing grievances, which is intended to, or attracts, an unspecified number of onlookers (a “crowd”).  The bill also prohibits openly carrying a firearm or other weapon within 250 feet of a demonstration in a public place after a law enforcement officer advises the person to leave.  The intent of the bill is called into question because under SB 5038’s vague language, a single person openly expressing their views could be considered a “permitted demonstration” if it “intends” to draw a crowd.  Senate Bill 5038 potentially causes those who are engaging in otherwise lawful activities to become criminals because of the actions of others.

At this time, no current action is scheduled for Senate Bills 5078 or 5038.  Please stay-tuned to NRA-ILA Alerts for more information and updates on these measures when they become available.


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hoss
hoss
2 months ago

Hey NRA how many of the reps responsible for passing it did you give high marks for being gun friendly? You have very little credibility.

Foe Pa
Foe Pa
2 months ago
Reply to  hoss

How true.

loveaduck
loveaduck
2 months ago
Reply to  hoss

Zero, unless you can prove otherwise.

Superman
Superman
2 months ago
Reply to  hoss

Zero. You must not live in Washington state.

dodge4me
dodge4me
2 months ago

No one enforces the Constitution anymore. So many ENEMIES. Until we enforce the Constitution no on else will!

jukk0u
jukk0u
2 months ago

I bet it would be $5000/1 year for each magazine discovered to be loaded in a currently legal fashion.

Finnky
Finnky
2 months ago
Reply to  jukk0u

It is actually per magazine capable of holding specified number of rounds. Don’t have to even possess ammo to earn free room and board for the remainder of your life.

They blatantly pandered to cops by allowing standard Glock mags. While i’d confidently guess cops are explicitly excluded – they want to be able to sell their used gear to general public. Much as cops in California supplement their income acting as FFLs, reselling handguns mere mortals may not legally buy new.

swmft
swmft
2 months ago

an anti gun idiot could start screaming about you having a gun and that would fall under this law, does not even pass the shit smell test no way could survive even in 9th circuit

nrringlee
nrringlee
2 months ago

SB 5078 constitutes an unlawful ‘taking.’ Property purchased under lawful conditions remains free from ex post facto restrictions. At least it does so in a Constitutional Republic where the People govern. Unlawful takings are symptoms of totalitarian societies.

TStheDeplorable
TStheDeplorable
2 months ago

The ban on firearms at demonstrations is based on Portland’s successful licensing of Antifa to attack conservatives with utter impunity. The mayor essentially sicced his dogs on anyone to the right of Mao and ordered the police to not intervene in Antifa-initiated violence, while also banning firearms due to the “emergency situation” that the Mayor’s own policies created. They know we are law-abiding people. If their side can threaten us with impunity, that essentially shuts us up.

crazy joe
crazy joe
2 months ago

They will keep passing bills till it will become a Socialist state where you can;t have weapons nor knives with a point.; YOU WILL BE DEAFENCELESS

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
2 months ago
Reply to  crazy joe

“They” will keep passing laws like this until the Conservatives / and Republicans / Right Wing or whatever “gender specific” name, GROW A SET OF BALLS BACK for FREEDOM, LIBERTY and PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY!

Tionico
Tionico
2 months ago
Reply to  crazy joe

so THEY will continue thinking. but reality smells quite a bit different.

Superman
Superman
2 months ago
Reply to  crazy joe

And who wants to be ‘DEAFENCELESS’? By the way, does that have to do with the ability to hear?

Nam62
Nam62
2 months ago

Maybe Aero Precision will exit That Corrupt State and take their Tax revenue with them! I’m sure they can find a home in Idaho. We will welcome them with open arms.

Jeremy B.
Jeremy B.
2 months ago
Reply to  Nam62

Forget that noise, stay and fight!

Don’t run away, stay, network, community organize, make phone calls, spend time, spend money, show up to council meetings, PTA meetings, legislature meetings.

But DON’T run away or give up. That’s now how you beat tyranny.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy B.

PATRIOT! – Notice the differences?

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USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
2 months ago
Reply to  Nam62

PUSSY! – (See below Jeremy B. for other comment)

Last edited 2 months ago by USMC0351Grunt
swmft
swmft
2 months ago
Reply to  Nam62

South Carolina or Florida ,and they need to stop selling to the comi states ,simple rule with gun manufactures the people in your state cant buy freely neither can the state rules apply to all

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
2 months ago

Oh wonderful. I can see all the BLDM and Antifags lining up to turn in their guns and magazines so they are legally at the peaceful protest or taking over of a section of town and proclaiming it separate from the United States, AGAIN.

Nilsigne
Nilsigne
2 months ago

I’m confused. So is it law yet in Washington? Or is it still being decided on? I keep an ar pistol in my car with the magazine inside it

Jeremy B.
Jeremy B.
2 months ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

It is not a law yet. It passed a committee, one of the first steps. Still needs to pass both houses. We still have time to fight this. Spending just 10 minutes every day to call or email a rep is good start.

Them get everyone you know to do the same thing.

Superman
Superman
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy B.

Way, way past the time for pleading, voting, phoning and the like in Washington state. The Dumbocrats hold all the cards and will never listen to firearm owners. Wake up!

Tionico
Tionico
2 months ago
Reply to  Nilsigne

in WA you better have the Mother May I Card in your pocket when you have that pistol with you like that. Another law needs to go, but right now we need to push back against the NEW ones they are trying to shove down our throat.