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U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Perhaps foretelling worse things to come, the White House Thursday is announcing that the “Biden-Harris Administration” is launching six “initial actions to address the gun violence public health epidemic.”

Joe Biden uses the murders of eight people in Georgia and ten more in Colorado to justify what grassroots Second Amendment activists will doubtless consider a full-frontal attack on constitutional rights while penalizing tens of millions of gun owners for the actions of two killers who weren’t stopped by all of the gun control laws already in place.

According to the White House “fact sheet,” Biden is calling on Congress to “go further” than two background check bills already passed by the House of Representatives. He wants Capitol Hill to close the so-called “boyfriend” and stalking “loopholes” that—the administration claims “allow people found by the courts to be abusers to possess firearms.”

Additionally, the “Biden-Harris administration” wants to ban so-called “assault weapons and high capacity magazines,” repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that protects gunmakers and retailers from junk lawsuits.

“Congress,” they say, “should also pass an appropriate national “red flag” law, as well as legislation incentivizing states to pass “red flag” laws of their own.”

It is a sweeping package with the following executive actions that appear designed to avoid being mired down on Capitol Hill:

The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.” The administration claims “criminals are buying kits containing nearly all of the components and directions for finishing a firearm within as little as 30 minutes and using these firearms to commit crimes.” Biden-Harris lament that such firearms “often cannot be traced” because they lack serial numbers. Biden wants the Justice Department to issue a proposed rule to stop this.

The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. The Colorado shooter used such a gun in his rampage last month. Many disabled shooters use such devices legitimately.

The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag” legislation for states. Red flag laws have been debated ad nauseum, with gun rights activists contending they can be abused. Biden wants Congress to pass a national “red flag” law, and legislation providing incentives to the states to adopt their own laws.

The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions. This is in response to a homicide spike during 2020, and Biden-Harris will take the following steps:

  • The American Jobs Plan proposes a $5 billion investment over eight years to support community violence intervention programs. A key part of community violence intervention strategies is to help connect individuals to job training and job opportunities.
  • The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is organizing a webinar and toolkit to educate states on how they can use Medicaid to reimburse certain community violence intervention programs, like Hospital-Based Violence Interventions.
  • Five federal agencies are making changes to 26 different programs to direct vital support to community violence intervention programs as quickly as possible. These changes mean we can start increasing investments in community violence interventions as we wait on Congress to appropriate additional funds. Read more about these agency actions here.

The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking. “In 2000,” the White House release says, “the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) issued a report summarizing information regarding its investigations into firearms trafficking, which is one way firearms are diverted into the illegal market where they can easily end up in the hands of dangerous individuals…But there is good reason to believe that firearms trafficking channels have changed since 2000, for example due to the emergence of online sales and proliferation of “ghost guns.” DOJ will issue a new report, the White House says.

The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. ATF has not had a confirmed director since 2015. Chipman served at ATF for 25 years “and now works to advance commonsense gun safety laws,” the administration says. Fox News is calling Chipman “an advocate of greater gun control.” According to Politico, he is currently senior policy advisor at Giffords, the gun prohibition lobbying group founded by former Congresswoman Gabriel “Gabby” Giffords and husband Mark Kelly, now a U.S.Senator representing Arizona.

Word of the Biden-Harris offensive emerged Wednesday, and there was swift reaction from Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation. CCRKBA is a grassroots gun rights group with affiliates across the country, while SAF is emerging as a legal powerhouse with more than 30 active lawsuits currently in progress challenging the kinds of restrictive gun control laws supported by Biden and like-minded anti-gunners.

Gottlieb told Fox News, “I think that President Biden will try to get away with as much as he can with executive orders.”

He said SAF is “prepared to go to court” in the event Biden attempts to push the envelope.

For the past month, SAF and CCRKBA have been waging an on-air fight against federal legislation dealing with background checks, gun registration and owner licensing, and other restrictions. One measure, H.R. 127, would require gun buyers to undergo a psychological evaluation, a proposal that gun rights activists have said is clearly unconstitutional.

When he was in the Senate, Biden led the fight to ban so-called “assault weapons” for ten years, but in 2004, Congress allowed that ban to die, and research in the aftermath has suggested the ban did not make a significant difference in violent crime overall.

“Executive Action” vs “Executive Order”

There is a difference between an “executive action” and “executive order,” that apparently many people don’t understand. In a 2018 article at ThoughtCo., writer Tom Murse noted, “(M)any critics [misunderstand] the definition of executive actions and the difference with legally binding executive orders.”

Executive orders, he explained, are “legally binding directives from the president to federal administrative agencies.”

Executive actions, which during the Obama administration dealt with such things as “universal background checks on anyone trying to buy guns” or “cracking down on straw purchases of guns by people whose intention is to resell them to criminals—carried none of the weight executive orders carry,” he wrote.

Just how well the Biden-Harris gun control scheme will fare is open to speculation. What is not speculation is that gun owners are bracing for battle.

The National Rifle Association says its membership is growing, despite all the current legal problems, while SAF and CCRKBA have seen dramatically increasing interest with new members and supporters, and part of the credit goes to the aggressive advertising campaigns those groups have been conducting for more than a month on more than a dozen networks.


About Dave Workman

Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms, and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.

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BOB
BOB
5 months ago

systemic blackism.

ABN INF
ABN INF
6 months ago

Sadly, the record minors coming over the border could be by design. Perhaps Biden and Hillary needed more children to prey upon since Epstein is out of the picture. Sick pedophiles.

RoyD
RoyD
6 months ago

The anti-gun crowd is diverse. One of them is Chip Bergh. He is the CEO of Levi Strauss and has a Chinese wife and a daughter who speaks fluent Mandarin. “Once, Chip Bergh revealed that he had a wife who hailed from China when his daughter was six years old. Besides, the rare information, he has privately maintained the concerns regarding his family and married life with the Chinese wife. Moreover, he adores halting business work at home since he believes in nurturing and balancing the work-life within the family. Also, Chip Bergh unveiled that his daughter speaks both English… Read more »

Morrigan
Morrigan
6 months ago

The most powerful word in the English language,
and one of the shortest: “NO”.
B. Jeans

tetejaun
tetejaun
6 months ago

A LOT of people on this forum said such things.

tetejaun
tetejaun
6 months ago

“The Communist Party must command all guns, that way no guns can ever be used to command the Communist Party.” Mao Zedong. The Democratic (Communist) Party must command all guns, that way no guns can ever be used to command the Democratic (Communist) Party. Joe “man, I love being a bully!” Biden. Many on this forum called Trump ‘anti-gun’. Many on this forum refused to canvass for Trump votes and I would wager a third on this forum did not vote, or voted for a Libertarian. For over 140 years the federal government has ignored the Constitution and the American… Read more »

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
6 months ago
Reply to  tetejaun

And what clandestine activity have you been involved in to “do something”? No, don’t tell us. That will make all of us accessories after the fact. FACT IS Tetejaun, no one person is an match against the psychopathic control freak ENFORCERS that will swoop down on you with everything from Bradleys, to armored personal carriers if you DARE to make a pitiful Ruby Ridge type stand against them. The day the “Republic” lost the militias is the day we went down the toilet. I wasn’t even thought of back then in 1905 before even my dad was born. The only… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  tetejaun

The takeaway is that, yes, Congress was ignoring the Constitution by 1934, at least. Did YOU wear a uniform, while you scooped scrambled eggs in the chow hall? I did NOT “wear a uniform”, but I was a contractor for an OGA, primarily patrolling with the British Army in Basra, and patrolling the Shat-al-Arab with the Royal Navy; and guarding convoys for my employer. Your soap box rant is offensive and pisses me off.

KK
KK
6 months ago

NONE OF THIS HAS ANY IMPINGEMENT ON SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!
. . . but I’m taking your guns, because NO RIGHT IS ABSOLUTE!

. . . AND THE AFT WILL MAKE SURE OF IT!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  KK

When Biden said that, it reminded me of the FBI repeating over and over again “This is not an assault” as they conducted their infamous assault.

They accomplished their mission though, I guess.

KK
KK
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

After hearing today’s news, we have a new development, not only will the AFT enforce “compliance”, but in addition, THE NEW IMPROVED PACKED SUPREME COURT will CERTIFY that confiscating everybody’s guns DOES NOT “IMPINGE” Second Amendment rights AT ALL!

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  KK

The Bill of Rights are, absolutely, absolute. A Right that the government csn limit has become a privelege.

Ej harbet
Ej harbet
6 months ago

If you haven’t determined that our federal government is controlled by domestic enemies of the constitution and founders consensus you soon wont be able to ignore it! Most of us did our best to win the political war.
But when they boldly commit armed robbery and take the levers of power,,,,,,

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago
Reply to  Ej harbet

Finish your statement.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

The larger question is, Do we really want or need to have that statement finished? As an 0351 and me as a 95B4X, Army, we know what the answer means.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Bob

and you are not alone in your understanding. There are many of us. Semper Fidelis.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
6 months ago
Reply to  Bob

So start training those who never were trained to stand beside you and when that day comes, we will actually be fighting for FREEDOM and not some banking cartel or oil cartel in Iraq.

Laddyboy
Laddyboy
6 months ago

Xiden and Harass MUST have a PHYCOLOGICAL EXAM —- THEY WILL FAIL!!!!

Dee
Dee
6 months ago

Sh!t Trump was chopping at our 2A right as well. He actually has done more than Biden til this day to hurt the 2A.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Yes, but…

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Yea, but biden hasn’t been in for 3 months yet.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Lets hope that when obiden is finished that President Trump was the winner in that category but I doubt it. Obiden is already calling for what President Trump would not allow which was removal or the AR and has clearly stated that amendments can be amended. That means that you can change the 2nd amendment.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Totally. He doesn’ have two sons who are “pro 2nd Amendment.” None of the Republican party policy advisors spoke to him. None of the “pro 2nd Amendment” legislators spoke to him.

He’s just a simpleton with no free will who had to do what the NRA told him to do.

What about the rest of the gun control laws he pushed for:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/president-trump-calls-comprehensive-gun-bill

Apologizing for Trump’s anti 2nd Amendment efforts just emboldens the next Republican presidential candidate, plus – it’s just weird.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Why avoid the truth?

Superman
Superman
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

What do you know about the truth?

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Superman

Here we go. Do you also believe Trump did not have free will – that he had to do what the NRA told him to do?

tetejaun
tetejaun
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

THERE you have the misinformed idiot that believes SAF, GOA, and CCRKBA lies.
Dee, you are a moron.

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Stag
Stag
6 months ago
Reply to  tetejaun

What are the lies you speak of?

Country Boy
Country Boy
6 months ago

Joe Biden needs to keep riding his jackass straight to hell.

Rogue
Rogue
6 months ago

Typical angry Joe Biden antics: do nothing to thwart criminals, while doing everything to harm honest law abiding Americans. The Sheriffs, Governors and states Attorneys General where the Constitution, law and “…shall not be infringed…” still prevail, will not put up with it.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Rogue

Your faith in rural sheriffs is unwarranted.

Every sheriff in Wyoming sided with Moms Demand Action and Everytown for Gun Safety in opposing legislation that would have prohibited Wyoming sheriffs from cooperating with federal authorities on enforcing the upcoming federal gun laws (registration/confiscation):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6O5evcYLe4&ab_channel=WyomingLegislature

Every small town police chief as well as the Wyoming Highway Patrol had the same view as the sheriffs.

They want to cooperate with federal LEOs.

Superman
Superman
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Stick to predicting lottery numbers; you will have better luck.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Superman

Odd response – did you watch the testimony?

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Rogue

Reply on hold (youtube video showing that your faith in rural sheriffs is unwarranted).

hoss
hoss
6 months ago

I predict the sheep will fall in line just like they always do.

Ej harbet
Ej harbet
6 months ago
Reply to  hoss

There were many sheep everytime this has come up! Still,,,,,,
I wont ask or tell whats to be done.

American Patriot
American Patriot
6 months ago

A lot of you supposedly gun people voted for this idiot or you sat back & didn’t vote at all because Trump hurt your feelings on tweeter…..How are you liking it now. A Country will be wiped out in under 6 months!

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago

Not if the over 22 Million Veterans have anything to say about it.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

A large percentage of the enforcers will be veterans.

Most of the legislators who are veterans will vote for more gun control.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Roger that!

tetejaun
tetejaun
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

You are so funny. Have YOU gone to any VFW or American Legion posts and ASKED these veterans? I HAVE! Yes, they LOVE putting skulls on their Harleys, but stand and fight? No chance. I went to 37 VFW and American Legion halls and NOT ONE person was willing to stand. I see mostly cooks, supply and truck drivers at these places. For over 140 years the American people have sat of their FAT BUTTS while the government turned Americans into slaves and defiled the Constitution. It is just TOO EASY to sit, quietly, and watch TV. As Mild Bill… Read more »

I Love V 4 V
I Love V 4 V
6 months ago
Reply to  tetejaun

I know quite a few vets who have formed or joined unofficial militias throughout this country, who actively train & prep for whatever might happen. They are also active in fighting gun control legislation & organizing rallies, protests, etc.You will find them in groups like “Oathkeepers”, “3%ers”, & the like. Maybe you just haven’t been looking in the right places.

Aside from that, I do agree w/ the 2nd paragraph in your post. If you want to keep your God given rights, you’d better be prepared to defend them, at any cost!

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  I Love V 4 V

Problem is, every time a member of one of our “extremist” Conservative groups stands up to be counted, the narrative changes, and he becomes a ‘terrorist” (not my words), and stops being a patriot and a hero (my words).

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago

I have a post waiting approval.
Thank you for posting it so fast.

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musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago

Now that obiden is done is one of the republican representatives ready to get on the tube and do a rebuttal? Come on Rand, Come on Kennedy, come on Cruz, where are you Mr. lying Marco?

Right now the best I see is outnumbered one of the few shows I watch on fox debate it. I bet all the left news channels are stroking joes words right now and pushing the agenda.

This is how they are going to win.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Crickets huh? Freaking lying Ted looks funny holding a gun. But I would think someone would speak up.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Dont go away mad, but definitely go away.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago

Waiting for just one “Pro 2nd Amendment” politician who is “fighting for our rights” to rebut all the lies Biden is telling right now.

Will the NRA dissect Biden’s speech, line by line, and point out all the lies? Will they use data and logic to point out that all the gun control regulations being discussed won’t make a difference?

Will the “new” NRA do any better? No promises. You have to pay to maybe remove Wayne and then you will find out.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

NRA is a sham and I’ll never support this racist organization!! They are too weak to protect my rights. I believe if you can get BLM supporting gun rights then we can effectively save our 2A rights!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

When you look at the clouds, do you see racism?

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Awwww….no!!

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Lol…if you think so.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Some are y’all are left too:)

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

The NWRA?

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago

You know, that evil bunch of old priveleged white gun nuts. The National White Rifle Associstion.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

The NRA help disarm black people for years!!

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

NRA helped disarm ALL people for years.

tetejaun
tetejaun
6 months ago

How easy it is for cowards like you to blame others for your lack of guts and resolve.
The PEOPLE are the power. NRA is merely an adjunct.
Your lies about the NRA are typical of the SAF, GOA and CCRKBA tripe and you were so uneducated, you believed it. Be sure to send your $30 to SAF so you can tell yourself you are a tough patriot.
It is to laugh.

Stag
Stag
6 months ago
Reply to  tetejaun

Where did Roland lie? You made the claim so back it up.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Stag

Once people get so stuck on a position that they ignore facts, they come up with all sorts of illogical explanations and get all twisted-up and start lashing out. tetejuan knows about the video and the transcripts, but he ignored the precedent Trump set and, instead, lashed out at anyone who wanted a bump stock (and anyone who merely supported the right of others to have bump stocks). Regarding all the other gun control Trump pushed for, he once said that it was a clever way for Trump to trick Feinstein into revealing to the world that she was anti… Read more »

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Superman
Superman
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

What do you know about facts?

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  tetejaun

Thats funny, when I actually took off my duty uniform, spent a month at a privately run training camp in Virginia for an official refresher on AR and AK platforms, among other things, processed through Bliss and climbed up into that chartered 747, enroute to Iraq, I did not FEEL like a coward. Not to mention my conspicuous bravery and all the time I wasted in voting and calling my congressmen.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

LOL…funny. You just gave clouds life. Life is now in the sky!!

Tionico
Tionico
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

you cry RAY CYST then want the most racist communinst front organisation, BLM to “save our 2A Rights”? What ARE you smoking, or shooting up? I don’t think you mean Buerau of Land Manglement, though they have their own issues. BLM will never support OUR gun rights, because they they know they won’t be the only ones armed agaisnt is. Nope. Just like back in the old Jim Crow days of “Reconstruction” the policy is “guns for we, but not for thee”. Disarm blacks… then move on to all the other ” factions” Alinsky taught us to use to bring… Read more »

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

My point exactly!! So you arm blacks and stop the onslaught of the second amendment. Ever since the racist NRA fought against Black Americans having the right to open carry, our gun rights has dwindled. Now “cancel culture” is further taking more of those rights. How you stop it?? Arm as many blacks as you can and remove the felony statue so convicted felons can regain their rights. This must be supported by the right whites (Republicans white males). If not….BOOM. Gun rights will be flushed down the toilet. You know I’m right. When white right political leaders yell “my… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

We didn’t have any “Blacks” in the service. They were all MARINES.

Country Boy
Country Boy
6 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

Not to mention BLM is lead & run by lesbian marxists.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Country Boy

OH, governor kate shit for brains brown the first openly bisexual governor in the US would like that. I’m so proud of that bitch. I wish she could retire, today, forever and not have to work another day in her life off of the bloomberg bucks she took.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

Chaos, hell! Consistent Overwhelming use of force!

hoss
hoss
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Tell me, is it true that the first time you had sex you were nervous, because you were alone?

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  hoss

Weren’t we all alone the first time?? You know you were too. #RightHandMatters

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  hoss

No, he woke up with a bloody bum and a fist full of nickels.

Country Boy
Country Boy
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

I guess that the NRA… an pro gun org that fought for blacks to have gun rights…. is somehow racist. Amirite?

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  Country Boy

NRA: Fought for blacks gun rights?? Heck no!! The reason California has limited gun rights is because of the NRA teaming with Cali government to prevent blacks from open carry. They did other sh!t too!!

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

But NRA actually is a sham.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago

Correct!

Ej harbet
Ej harbet
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Ok kamala

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago

The liar and chief is at it on the tube right now. You can hear all the things he is saying and read in between the lines that say we want all the guns.

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hippybiker
hippybiker
6 months ago

Joe “Oatmeal Brain” is truly a Blithering Idiot!

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  hippybiker

Skrue that senile SoB.

Rodoeo
Rodoeo
6 months ago

“Incentives for states to adopt it” otherwise known as paying off local politicians. Everything’s about money to these lowlifes. They’d sell their own mothers.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago
Reply to  Rodoeo

Sell them? Again? How do you think they got.into office the first time?

gandolf
gandolf
6 months ago

So last year in Chicago 4000 blacks shot 4000 blacks with illegal handguns killing 1000. 50 were black children under the age of 12 killed in drivebys. No ghost gun ever killed anyone. No criminal has ever owned a ghost gun. As usual the MSM lies by omission. One still needs to go through the NICS law to get the upper part of the ghost gun so it is still registered. The upper must be sent from a legal firearms dealer to another.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  gandolf

It’s funny when whites talk about black on black gun violence but does nothing to help with those issues. Also you guys NEVER talk about the white Kyle kid that murdered 2 people. Or the excess of police brutality. Talking about black on black crimes further the anti 2A folks even more. I just think it’s the stupidest info to put out if you enjoy guns as much as I do!! Get yo knee off the neck of the system and guns won’t be an issue!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Dee, As a chemical engineer, you must have a good grasp of math. Did you ever check the math I gave you that showed the homicide rate in the Englewood neighborhood of Chicago is 15,000% higher than in many areas of the U.S.? As a chemical engineer, you understand that while a homicide rate of 1 or 2 per 100,000 is unfortunate, that a homicide rate of 191 per 100,000 is horrific. As a chemical engineer, you do understand degrees of difference, right? You understand distribution curves, correct? There were 792 homicides in Chicago in 2020. Seven of those people… Read more »

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Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

OMG!! Im watching Joe make executives actions to our gun rights and because of individuals like you, this will happen and it won’t be rolled back. Why? Because your complicity to just sit on your hands and do nothing. Sad but true. Posting in Ammoland doesn’t do anything to further the support 2A. Now all my 80% kits may be invalid now because you choose to do nothing. You like your Twitter fingers more so than your trigger fingers. You and you best friend Pincus are silently changing our 2A rights!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Pathetic.

You apologize for and enable the culture that is causing a large percentage of the crime that is used as the justification for never-ending gun control.

The billions that taxpayers have poured into those neighborhoods did nothing.

The people in those neighborhoods have to make different decisions. You alternate back and forth between saying the people are incapable of making those decisions and claiming those decisions are “boomer bullshit that belongs in a museum.”

You still haven’t responded to the data.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Incapable?? Lol. That’s funny. But obviously some individuals in this country wasn’t capable of saving lives by wearing masks and governors got involved on both sides of the isle. So what’s you point?? You don’t believe in helping your fellow Americans?? Apparently not because you repeat the same stuff. Why post stats if your not willing to fight to change them? Your post are becoming redundant and needs a little color to give it meaning.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

You’re the one who says they are incapable of making different decisions. You then say the different decisions (the ones that would improve their situation) are “boomer bullshit that belongs in museums.” I believe the people living in those neighborhoods are perfectly capable of making different decisions. They have received my help for a very long time. They don’t need my help. They need to make different decisions. What’s my point? I’ve made the point dozens of times. Here you go: The homicide rate in the neighborhoods we are discussing is astronomically higher than in areas with normal cultures; The… Read more »

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musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Had to go racist again didn’t you. Think about it for a second. First off, I mentioned how on a post earlier you didn’t do that and thanked you and then OOPS you did it again. SO Whites not doing anything to help with black on black violence. Let’s take Chicago because I think you may live there. Who is the people that are policing the black communities? They are black police mostly and what color is the mayor? Jee I think she might be black mostly isn’t “IT”?. Who was the president that came from there and didn’t to… Read more »

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Then let’s figure out how we can help the folks in Chicago because their action is playing with my ‘bolt’ actions, etc. Regardless if we don’t take action, it will become expensive for the do anything with guns!!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

They don’t need help. Here’s the white privilege secret for success for people living in those neighborhoods. All the white supremacists have been keeping this a secret for over five decades. Ready? Here you go – here is the secret for a young male and young female living in those neighborhoods to raise children who will grow up to be in the upper-middle class: Don’t make babies at an extremely young age; Don’t use recreational drugs; Don’t commit crimes; Get married after you have both secured steady employment; Have no more than three children; Treat each other with respect and… Read more »

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USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

BOOM!

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

It was a closely held secret until today.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

OH, so YOU let the dogs out.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Hoop there it is!!!

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

OMG, i have to say that is a good one. I just couldn’t resist. I especially like the intro, I was really wanting to know the white supremist secrets and what caught my eye was the white privilege. Looks like I lived that one when I was younger. Some of it was my choice and some of it was my upbringing by my parents. I was raised in one of those environments with black children and adults. We went to the same class, same teachers and we all had the same opportunities and in some cases the blacks had more… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

All of the things I listed are personal choices – no government programs required. Those are the same choices most successful white business people make. Only racists don’t believe people in high crime neighborhoods are capable of making better decisions.

The difference is, Whites are discriminated against for college funding, college acceptance, job hiring consideration, promotion consideration, and job retention.

Dee is holding Blacks back by telling them they are victims rather than suggesting to them that they make better personal choices and enjoy the preference they receive through affirmative action and other similar programs/”goals.”

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

But you forgot to cover how they fight against systemic racism.

Superman
Superman
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

What systemic racism?

BOB
BOB
5 months ago
Reply to  Dee

But…what about systemic blackism?

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

“Help the folks in Chicago”?….um, like a program of surgical Arclight strikes?

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago

No seriously, even better; how about a “Pigeon Program”? Sort of like Phoenix for Chicago. A “high-risk neighborhood” pacification program.

Tionico
Tionico
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

the white Kyle kid that murdered

REALLY? Now we KNOW you are a troll. Kyle shot three people who were clearly trying to murder HIM. WTwo used handguns, one of which was a “prohibited person” and thus his possession was ilegal. The toher, also prohibited, did not have a handgun but used a weapon grade skateboard. WATCH the videos, they are readily availble. Then come back and tel us yuo would cower in submission until each one had his turn killing you.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

Troll?!?! Lol. Okay. Oh I’m serious!! That kid is a murderer. Their background doesn’t have shit to do with the fact they were murder and they did not have weapons on them what so ever. If Kyle was black y’all would be going for his head. Stop playing!! This is serious my brutha. But you want to play politics. Do something for the gun community instead of just using Twitter fingers.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Amen to the inspiration part. They want to fry him to make an example of him. They are afraid that if the police keep not doing anything about the peaceful protests that the people will start taking care of it themselves.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Kyle NEVER murdered anyone. He defended himself against three scum sucking pieces of human garbage. He should be getting medals, not getting persecuted. Those three were rioters and murderers. The only thing to be done with rioters and looters is anhialation! And many immolation.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Wish him luck with all that!!

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

You cannot possibly BE that rock-stupid.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

Oh, never underestimate stupid.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

Oh, I dont know, never underestimate stupidity.

RoyD
RoyD
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

The thing is, Dee, that you most likely would have a problem with my preferred solution to the “black on black gun violence” problem. It is very much like my “any color on any color gun violence” solution. But no, you don’t have the stomach for that.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

No RoyD tell me about it.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Kyle murdered no one; and “police brutality” is so rare today it’s virtually a myth. Though I firmly believe in harsh policing as a deterrent.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago
Reply to  gandolf

Uh? I know for a fact that YOU are full of shit!

swmft
swmft
6 months ago

it is funny that there is no mention of the goverments illegal gun trading,fast and furious; oh yea biden was involved in that criminal act too

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  swmft

right on, someone else calling the kettle black and remembering the bullshit that happened and is continuing today. Thanks for bringing that up and calling it out.

Quatermain
Quatermain
6 months ago

That is the Biden-Harris REGIME, not Administration.

Mystic Wolf
Mystic Wolf
6 months ago
Reply to  Quatermain

They have turned it 8nto a full blown dictatorship, the quid-pro-joe is now trying to tell peop,e how things are going to befrom now on. Look how many jobs that quid-pro-joe killed because he did not like them, now the petty tyrant has set its eyes on our guns. You can bet come he11 or high water he is going to make the legal gun owners pay for everything the criminals are doing, I stead of going after the criminals this dictator is protecting the criminals because of the color of their skin.

PMinFl
PMinFl
6 months ago
Reply to  Mystic Wolf

Small correction, the jobs killed by ex orders in the energy field came from”climate activists” that have been filling the “dear leader’s” head, you know the ones that did the actual election fraud, so that it can’t be traced. The office holder now has to dance to their tune.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Quatermain

ALL HAIL Obiden and Kamalatoe. Hail to the furor liar and thief.

Orion
Orion
6 months ago

funny how author tom murse neglected to comment on Obama and his pathetic minion’s effort to push thru AWB 2.0 after the Sandy Hook school shooting. some of us remember 2013.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  Orion

That’s Osama Obama Yo mama!

MSG L
MSG L
6 months ago

I will fight this tooth and nail. My State just went “permitless” carry and we are STRENGTHINING our firearms laws to support the Constitution and the People.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  MSG L

Texas is embarrassing in that regard.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago

Oregone is worse.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Yeah, but seriously, this is Texas!

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago

Obviously you are NOT paying attention! [GOA Alert]

correction: Biden announced plans and directives for gun control.

House hearing started, E2.030, not on gun bills yet. Watch at

Senate hearing is starting NOW, E1.028. Be ready to testify. Watch at <https://bit.ly/3dOZxf

Rachel Malone with GOA Texas has been leadi.g the charhe for Texas in many ways.

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Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

I have very much been paying attention. It is reprehensible the way our state level reprentatives keep fumbling the football (God, I hate sports analogies) when it comes to Constitutional Carry; let alone passing laws to nullify Federal crap. And the weak hand wringing of “leaders” like John Cornyn, who supports Merrivk Garland for AG. I have been a member of GOA for years, and had high hopes for the effecicacy of NFAFA; but the simple, naive side of my brain does not understand why “not be infringed” does not mean exactly that. Why laws in violation of the Constitution… Read more »

Gofer
Gofer
6 months ago
Reply to  MSG L

You must be in Montana, I take it? Not sure if other states have passed a law that protects gun owners from BATF and other federal “agents”. I’m still waiting to hear of the governor signed the bill from our Senate.

grant
grant
6 months ago

Here’s the facts on the Arm Brace thing;
AR Pistols are ‘Handguns’,
Handguns are protected by Heller.
Joe wants to remove that protection so he can finish banning all semi-autos

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago

To bad your English hasn’t improved completely! Wow a whole three hundred fifteen dollars and forty seven cents. What would one do with all that money,.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

The comment above was to an add that stated you can get lots of money using your computer, bla bla bla. I’m not insane yet, but obiden is working on it.

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Finnky
Finnky
6 months ago

On the surface the blurb about “community violence” does not sound half bad. It claims to have many parallels to what we have been saying is the correct approach to reducing violence. However as the saying goes “the proof is in the pudding”. In this case, given the cook, I suspect mostly poisonous ingredients dolled up to look attractive. Among other things he proposes to divert money from Medicaid to this program. Medicaid finances are already at risk – AND those funds were appropriated by the legislature for specific purposes, not including this one. The first three programs are a… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

There will be nothing in the billions spent to address “community violence” that will even mention the actual problems that lead to a dysfunctional micro-culture: Pregnant 12 year-olds Abandonment of children to mothers/grandmothers (fatherless households) No discipline of children No rules or boundaries for children Defending the bad behavior of children when others point it out No encouragement of work ethic No parental involvement in education No parent-child discussions regarding future employment options in the private sector and how to prepare for that employment When 8 year-olds tell their teacher to F-off, there is a culture problem. When 10 year-olds… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

On Tuesday, Jushawn Brown (who has prior felony convictions) got mad at someone about how they were driving. His response? Shoot them. As is often the case, he missed his intended target and hit a little boy, who was not even two years old, in the head. The boy is in critical condition. Man faces charge after Chicago road rage shooting wounds boy (apnews.com) This happens every day. The national media will not report on it non-stop. There will be no investigative journalist who will dig into Jushawn’s past and list out all the crimes he was convicted of and… Read more »

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PMinFl
PMinFl
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

JSNGGC both of the previous posts ahould be presented in the main stream media, sadly they won’t be.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
5 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

What is a “jushawn”, anyway?

WhiGSplittAh
WhiGSplittAh
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Absolutely!! Watch this video! They now plan on not punishing kids based on skin color! This is from a school district in Arizona.

https://leakedreality.com/video/5657/elemntary-school-crt-bullshit

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  WhiGSplittAh

Talk to teachers in high-crime neighborhoods. The behavior of students and parents is completely different from students and parents in low-crime neighborhoods. None of the “Pro 2nd Amendment” politicians who are “fighting for our rights” will talk about the root cause of the insanely high homicide rates in high-crime neighborhoods. They are able to get away with this and still get elected because most firearm owners don’t expect them to do anything other than to wave a flag, tweet about Robert Francis, and make a lot of noise about the rights of government employees. The NRA realizes Lauren Boebert is… Read more »

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Oh boy, I offended one of the Boebert cheerleaders.

Firearm rights aren’t even one of her top eight issues:

https://boebert.house.gov/issues

Donate Now!

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

Uh? Probably became many politicians “fighting for our 2A rights” are Republican and don’t have cities like that in their districts?

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JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Not sure I understand.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Duuh!

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  WhiGSplittAh

How about the 13 and 15 year old girls that hijacked a car crashed it and killed the driver. They get out when they turn 21. I guess because the guy looked muslim that they got less time than if he had been white, right?

RoyD
RoyD
6 months ago
Reply to  JSNMGC

One might think that you were describing the actions of wild animals except even wild animals discipline their young to keep them from harming the family or group at large. No, these are less than even the animals. They are meant only for the trash heap after having been deprived of their lives. “So let it be written; so let it be done.”

ChootEm
ChootEm
6 months ago

We went for how long without any of these mass shootings…then Obiden and the Ho take office and these shootings start up again. Anyone else believe this is an orchestrated effort to strip us of our guns?

What these gun grabbing fools don’t understand is that the 2nd amendment isn’t about securing our right to bear arms. Nope, not at all. It’s all about preventing the government from infringing on our right to bear arms. Huge difference.

Using Obiden’s words: “Come on man!” I will not comply because what you’re proposing is unconstitutional and should be shot down immediately.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago
Reply to  ChootEm

There were over five dozen mass shootings during the Trump administration. You are only looking at the mass shootings the media is telling you to look at.

Most mass shootings are common, garden-variety street crimes (not the “high school loner who was bullied and was crying out for help”).

Blacks commit a disproportionate number of mass shootings.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  ChootEm

Chitshow why you mad?? Because yo momma is a hoe?? Don’t know who your dad is? Smh. Too bad I haven’t had that hoe yet!!!

Btw, mass shooting didn’t just start. It’s been happening for a while.

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Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

You are disgusting.

RoyD
RoyD
6 months ago

 “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.”

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

Let’s try and keep it to the blood of tyrants only.

swmft
swmft
6 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

it is coming, and sooner than you think. the uncontrolled printing of money ,people in government and family above the law, criminals set free to scare the masses ,police that only do what they are told, an oath taken but not followed

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  swmft

No sh!t is coming. Jan 6 was the only chance. Trump clowns blew it!! Maybe fortunately!!

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Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

The problem with Jan. 6 was too few patriots, too few arms, and nobody thought to include new legislators to be sworn in.

Knute
Knute
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

So you think that your president, cowering in his (I mean OUR!) mansion, behind razor wire and barricaded checkpoints, is a normal, everyday situation meaning that peace is about to break out?
WOW, what a rube! 🙂

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  swmft

C’mon Man! We all wanna live in Venezuela North. If some current idiot gets a brain, our dream of living in a utopia like Venezuela will never come to pass. We gotta keep the woke, equity loving libertards in power or else we’ll never get to nirvana?

Oldman
Oldman
6 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

I believe it is time. The Supremes need to quit dancing around and start singing. They have to take some 2A cases and stop Obiden’s pen from signing this S**T! Look what he has done to our Republic at the border alone.

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
6 months ago

The Biden administration may as well take the constitution of the United States down and burn it along with the American flag because of the policies they are pushing are very anti American and the founders if they were alive would have had them arrested.
Can we endure four years of these idiots with their crazy ideas.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  uncle dudley

Honestly, I don’t’ think so. They already have the new flag that they want to fly and are talking about the dollar collapsing and going to a New World Money system where all the world uses the same crypto currency.
Out with the old and in with the pew pew pew.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  uncle dudley

If the founders were still alive, they would be calling the Patriots to assemble for Revolution 2.0

Savage
Savage
6 months ago

Meanwhile states after states are passing Constitutional carry laws and passing “will not comply” legislation on federal orders and laws.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Savage

OH, don’t worry about that. Obummer and soon obiden will bring back the United Nations into our fold and we will have them to police us.
I hope all the people that claim to be republicans that voted for obiden see what they did and are doing to our country. The demonrats know they are in control and now while the getting is good, they are going to bend us over the barrel and !!!!!!!!

Savage
Savage
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

I’ve worked with UN forces, their a “peace keeping” force. They have no idea how to do a down and dirty fight. There’s also not enough of them to anything more than maybe hold a small city here. They really are no threat to us.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Savage

I hope your right and most of all that civil war or a revolutionary war doesn’t happen in America. Remember, Obummer said that UN forces would and could be used in America. I think the Chinese UN forces would all of a sudden grow and would be the main ones here. That would be the third or fourth part of their take over since obummer sold them part of Yellow Stone which is in America they own businesses here, they make sure and come here to have their babies so they have dual citizenship and they poison us with covid… Read more »

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PMinFl
PMinFl
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

The Chinese army is already in Canada “training”.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  PMinFl

I heard that just the other day.
Another thing I have known about is that Canada has closed off it’s borders to Americans and I learned a few days ago that Canada will not ship reloading supplies to America. New Zealand will though.

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Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Personally, I don’t even like the thought of what you just wrote. I remember speaking with Marines and Army vets who were a Chosin and other places in Korea talking about firing machine guns at chi-coms until the barrels turned red and the hoards just kept coming. I want no part of that in this country!

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Bob

My dad was in the United States Army and told me stories of what they used to do with Americans private parts and other horrid things along with those glowing read barrels and the asphalt gloves getting so hot you would burn your hands from changing barrels. Maybe that is why I think about these things. I have learned through others experience. In addition my German Grandfather fought against my American Grandfather in WWI and I have heard stories on both sides and none of them were pretty and they were all told for one reason. To let me know… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

“No one wins”? No offense, but that statement is usually untrue, and can be deliberately made untrue.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Bob

comment awaiting approval.

Tionico
Tionico
6 months ago
Reply to  Savage

not to mention the extremely HIGH visibioityof their bright blue crowns…….

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

I watched a train full baby blue armed and armored military vehicles crossing over Houston Ave, on the northern edge of downtown Houston, about 30 years ago. I remember thinking, “boy I’d like to see pieces of that bridge falling from the sky”.

Bob
Bob
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

They think.

Finnky
Finnky
6 months ago
Reply to  Savage

@Savage – I believe state and local legislation can better be described as “will not enforce” than as “will not comply”. My view will change when states announce that they will not protect federal thugs within the state and will only investigate self defense incidents to verify self-defense (which must prepare evidence for the defense while not identifying victim). States must also commit to not allowing extradition for self-defense “crimes”. I will believe a state supports our rights when they deploy national guard as “observers” at the next Waco style siege by federal authorities. Surround the federal force… This would… Read more »

nrringlee
nrringlee
6 months ago

OK folks. Now is the time to put your lives and sacred honor on the line. Yesterday in Arizona our Governor, Doug Ducey signed AB 2111. AB 2111 is our “Just Say No”to federal infringement. Now that the state has made a formal legal stand it is time for all liberty minded folks to LEAD BY EXAMPLE and just say no. If you want an example of how not to do it take a hard look at California since the signing of the Muldford Act of 1967 by none other than Ronald Reagan. Compromise gets you compromised when it comes… Read more »

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

E Pluribus Unum. Regarding they cannot build enough prisons to hold us all. You are absolutely right. Maybe that is another reason why they are letting criminals out into the streets and building camps that we are not being told about. I expect the United Nations to be the enforcers because we don’t want our own people to get shot up and it is a lot easier to say gun control is what the world wants not just the majority of Americans. They have been mind gaming us for years now. But now they are really expecting us to bend… Read more »

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DIYinSTL
DIYinSTL
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

They don’t need to build camps or put us in prison. By simply levying fines to wipe us out financially and convicting us as felons we will no longer be able to afford or legally own a firearm. That alone is enough to reach their goal.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona: Section 1. Title 1, chapter 2, article 4, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 1-272, to read: 1-272. Sovereign authority; right of the people to keep and bear arms PURSUANT TO THE SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY OF THIS STATE AND ARTICLE II, SECTION 3, CONSTITUTION OF ARIZONA, THIS STATE AND ALL POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS OF THIS STATE ARE PROHIBITED FROM USING ANY PERSONNEL OR FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO ENFORCE, ADMINISTER OR COOPERATE WITH ANY ACT, LAW, TREATY, ORDER, RULE OR REGULATION OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH ANY LAW OF… Read more »

Montana454Casull
Montana454Casull
6 months ago

I don’t recognize this cheating, lying ilegitiment clown as our president so any laws or executive orders he signs will hold the same merit with me . Joe can shove his gun control and his pen where the sun don’t shine .

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago

My dog is smarter than their stolen election president.

I re-read this and need to make a clarification. I apologize if you think I am saying that you voted for obiden, that was not my intention and after reading your posts I know you would never vote for him. I was just adding a saying to your post.

As for your last sentence, add kamalatoe to that list too.

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Gofer
Gofer
6 months ago

As another Montanan, I agree completely. I also wrote Gianforte to sign the Senate Bill dealing with this stupid gun control by the feds. I’ve read the entire bill and agree that we don’t have to follow any federal guidelines and that BATF or any other federal agent has no right to arrest anyone here because of our right to bear arms and that it will NOT be infringed in Montana!

RJL
RJL
6 months ago

Joebama,

America Last policies still will not effect the Criminal Element Elephant in the room, wink, wink…

Hell, they cannot even enforce the 20,000+ laws already written in the books, but continue to add more for the law abiding citizens.

” Just Say No “…

GomeznSA
GomeznSA
6 months ago
Reply to  RJL

RJL – cannot enforce – more like will not enforce them. I have yet to see ANY ‘gun control’ proposal that directly goes after criminals. As most of us know, it ain’t about the guns, it is about control. Never mind that Law Abiding Citizens who own guns are SEVEN times less likely to commit any crime than the LE community is. And yet that group is the one that they think will enforce even more draconian infringements.

Mac
Mac
6 months ago

With the MORON in Chief, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES is a way of life!

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Mac

LOL, I like that one.

nature223
nature223
6 months ago

why don’t you spam your sucky website somewhere else

AlphaRomeo556
AlphaRomeo556
6 months ago

Gee, I wonder if anyone on these forums will be feeling a bit triggered by this news? Methinks there would be a rush of panic-buying to stockpile ammo for all those “go bags” you guys have that have been sitting around in the closet for 25 years…. that is, if there actually was any ammo available. Yawn… Biden announcing “action” (if you want to call it that) might be a fine symbolic gesture, but with 400+ million guns already in circulation in the good ol’ US of A, we’re a bit too far down the rabbit hole to hold out… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
6 months ago
Reply to  AlphaRomeo556

@ARo556 – We already have common sense legislation. Read the 2nd – it clearly expresses the most sensible regulation possible.

Had no idea that Gaetz was running for President. I don’t see him winning office – but there is a real chance of another AWB becoming law. Not to worry, they won’t simply ban ARs but all semi-autos regardless of classification as pistol, rifle or shotgun – plus anything 50cal or larger.

I do agree with your “Yawn” comment. It is important to get enough sleep before action starts – won’t get much more until it is over.

Dee
Dee
6 months ago
Reply to  AlphaRomeo556

Lol…that was pretty good. My exact settlements.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  Dee

Gee Dee, there goes that highly edumacated brain again. Settlements are where people stop, make camp and then make a town or a settlement. I think you meant STATEMENT. Too bad your teachers didn’t teach you how to write and spell and make coherent (meaning understandable) sentences when they were teaching you. I have to say I am proud of you though, not one racist comment or claim for a change. Much better.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  AlphaRomeo556

Don’t fixate on theoretical house-to-house raids and gun confiscation. The liklihood is that most folks will be left alone. Until you pop ip above the radar. Get crossways with the IRS? Get searched. Get into it with the obstructionist Democrat employee at the DMV? Get searched.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago

I hope that never happens too. I used to work for the DMV. I had no idea that state service was almost all demonrats. As soon as I admitted that I was a republican all my troubles started. I no longer could do or say anything right. I became a racist overnight even though my best friend that I went snowmobiling with, taught how to work on cars while he taught me how to build a computer is black. What you say makes sense, one person at a time. That would make good use of the red flag law when… Read more »

PMinFl
PMinFl
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Or if you just go to the range once a month.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  PMinFl

The wife and I were there yesterday. Had a great time shooting with all those republicans. We broke in two new barrels one new upper and tested some 9mm that I built. Have to make some more and make them a little stronger to match what the manufactures make. They were like glass though.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

They already did us, I am fighting back.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC
6 months ago

It’s called never-ending gun control for a reason.

To Rob Pincus, Flyknot, Kim Stolfer, and the other people who wanted to “do something,” is this enough?

What will you be pushing for next?

Markeb2800
Markeb2800
6 months ago

Please support SAF and GOA. They keep fighting when the NRA surrenders.

nature223
nature223
6 months ago
Reply to  Markeb2800

as for the GOA, I joined them at a gunshow, I will not join the NRA..

nrringlee
nrringlee
6 months ago
Reply to  nature223

Join your state level gun rights group. If you are currently incarcerated in a blue utopia you do have great choices. California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA) is a first rate group but they are fighting a losing battle. In free states like Arizona you have the Arizona Citizens Defense League ((AZCDl). I work gun shows for them educating people on their real rights, their Natural Rights. If you are in AZ come see us at the next gun show. Local organization and local action is what the Progressive New Left fears the most.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
6 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

They have that in control in portlandia oregone. Any time the constitutionalists get together for a demonstration the antifags and BLDM show up start a fight and turn it into one of their peaceful protests and then the governor declares it a riot and then everyone has to disburse so constitutionalists don’t get to protest. Then on the news that night we get to hear about proud boys that weren’t there and skin heads starting riots with the peaceful BLDM and ANTIFAGS on the news and how bad those Trump supporters are. See that system works just fine. The other… Read more »

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Orion
Orion
6 months ago
Reply to  Markeb2800

until Pelosi, Feinstein and Schumer fear the GOA as they do our NRA in stopping unjust legislation nationally i will continue to support them…. First!
if not for the NRA, this page, this forum, would not even exist.

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
6 months ago
Reply to  Orion

NRA has supported birtuslly infringement of the 2nd Amendment since NFA 1934. They could not compromise on 1986 Hughes Act fast enough. Skrue NRA.