New York “Silencer” Case Tossed because Item was a Solvent Trap

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U.S.A.-( On 7 January 2020, John Andrews was the target of a “controlled delivery”. A controlled delivery is where contraband has been intercepted and is delivered to a suspect as part of a warrant for a search. Acceptance of the parcel containing the contraband is part of the necessary conditions for service of the warrant.

The parcel in question was a solvent trap ordered from China. Solvent traps are not contraband.

The warrant claimed the solvent trap was an illegal silencer. New York is one of only eight states where it is completely illegal to possess a silencer.

Agencies present at the controlled delivery and warrant service were West Seneca Police, Agents of Homeland Security, the ATF, Customs, and the Postal Inspector’s office. Andrews had several firearms and firearms parts, legally obtained and possessed, in his home. He was indicted on six felony charges.

There was a problem for all those police and agents. The solvent trap was not an illegal silencer.

The warrant was not legally obtained. All charges were dismissed on 14 January 2021. From

The problem with the warrant a West Seneca police detective got for Andrews’ home, which was based on information supplied by federal agencies, was this: they told a town justice Andrews was getting a “silencer” shipped to him, not a solvent trap.

“The choice of words used by the police in the application were persuasive and wrong,” Justice Christopher J. Burns wrote in his Jan. 14 decision. “As a result, this court must find there was a reckless disregard for the true nature of the item and must suppress any items recovered through the search warrant.”

All of the charges appear to be based on New York State statutes, not Federal statutes. If there were federal violations, the charges would have been heard in federal court.  A month after the charges were dismissed against John Andrews, another resident of Erie County was entangled in a similar case.

On February 11, 2021, another search warrant was executed based on information from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Frederick Oehler case from

BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB)– Fredrick Oehler, 60, of the Town of Tonawanda was arraigned on February 11 for possession of an illegal assault weapon and firearm silencer, according to the Erie County District Attorney’s Office.

Oehler was charged on two counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree.

The DA’s office tells us a search warrant was executed on February 11, 2021 at Oehler’s Ellicott Creek Road home. The Erie County Sheriff’s Office conducted the search after “receiving a tip from U.S. Customs and Border Protection that the defendant had allegedly purchased an illegal firearm silencer from China,” The DA said.

Authorities recovered an assault weapon and a silencer. 

The “assault weapon” was not identified. Upstate New York is a hotbed of civil disobedience to the “safe act” which required registration of numerous rifles.

This correspondent has not found more details of the Oeler case. It would be interesting if Mr. Oehler were able to contact R. Anthony Rupp III, the attorney for John Andrews. U.S. Customs should be able to show photographic proof the item delivered to Mr. Oehler was an illegal silencer, and not a solvent trap.

These cases contrast considerably with a case involving firearms, silencers, and ISIS from 2014 in the same New York county. In 2014 a case was brought against Mufid a. Elfgeeh for firearms and silencers. In this case a confidential source gave the guns and silencers to Mufid Elfgeeh as part of an FBI sting.

Assistant U.S. Attorneys Brett A. Harvey and Frank H. Sherman, who are handling the case, stated that according to the complaint, Elfgeeh has expressed his support for various terrorist groups, including al-Qa’ida and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, and the pursuit of violent jihad. Consistent with this ideology, Elfgeeh has discussed a plan to shoot and kill both members of the United States military returning from Iraq and unidentified Shi’a Muslims in the Western District of New York. As part of that plan, Elfgeeh purchased two handguns equipped with firearm silencers and ammunition from a confidential source. The handguns were made inoperable by the FBI before the confidential source gave them to Elfgeeh.

In 42 states, citizens can avoid the legal troubles of John Andrews and Frederick Oehler by applying for a Form 1 to legally make their own silencer from a solvent trap.

Legal silencers number over 2 million in the United States, in spite of the banning of the safety devices in eight states. Those states are shown on this map from the American Suppressor Association:

Legal silencers number over 2 million in the United States, in spite of the banning of the safety devices in eight states.

The regulation and tax on these safety tools are excessive. However, paying the $200 tax to make your own silencer, legally, is a worthwhile insurance policy against federal prosecution. In the cases this correspondent has reviewed, the prosecution checks with the ATF to determine if a Form 1 has been applied for before issuing a search warrant.

About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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YEAH! Pay the required tribute to your massa Tobey or go to the rape cage!


We all have choices. I chose not to be raped if I can possibly avoid it. You are welcome to make your own choices. Free will seems to be a difficult concept for the left these days. They don’t seem to understand that if they push too hard, no one will comply. Only tool they have is to threaten ever more draconian punishments. Won’t be surprised if they introduce a bill officially providing death penalty fo4 having an “assault weapon” (defined as any firearm). When that doesn’t work they will bump punishment to death for you and all your descendants.… Read more »

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we drift ever closer to THE WAR thought it would be after my time social security kill all the old people with guns


If you bow down to the tyranny now you will bow down to maternity later because you will have no experience, knowledge or backbone otherwise. You might want to do some research on what the brown shirts did in Germany back in the 30’s.


Damn auto-correct? Maternity – tyranny.


Would have been a whole lot cooler if it had been tossed due to all arms laws being unconstitutional but a win is a win.


swarms of officers prowling about seeking to destroy the citizens for arbitrarily determined “mala prohibida” This is NOT hat this Republic was founded upon. We kicked the minions of George Three off this land two centuries back. Have thee clowns forgotten?

Have WE forgotten?

What are Feds doing coopting local LE to do their dirty work, anyway? If its a federal offnese, use Feds to do the bullying. But I suppose the denizens of Rotten Chester love to have it so. Have we all forgotten the kerfuffle about local LE trying to enforce federal immmigrationia and entry lws? Same stuff.


State and local LEOs want to cooperate with feds. They require no coopting.


State and local LEOs want to cooperate with feds. They require no coopting.

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West Seneca Police, Agents of Homeland Security, the ATF, Customs, and the Postal Inspector’s office all team up (what law enforcement agency was NOT involved?)to arrest an individual for the non violent non crime of receiving a suppressor. A right supposedly protected by a constitution these drones likely took an oath too. Fabricating a suppressor is almost 18th century technology. Previously available at the local hardware store with no paperwork. Do you imagine that you exist in a free society?


Make no mistake that the ATF considers solvent traps to be “silencer parts,” which are just as illegal without a tax stamp as full silencers. A wise man picks his battles, and a felony conviction and years in prison (and a lifetime ban on firearm possession) is not worth saving $200. Better to do the Form 1, pay the tax, and THEN obtain the parts to make your own suppressor. Or, if you are not a bona fide gunsmith with actual knowledge about pressures caused by the firing of your weapon and the strength of the parts you propose to… Read more »


Hell save the $200 & buy a bag of potato’s. Work well with a 22. You can fry them afterwards with bacon, oil & vinegar. Yummy LOL


Now THIS is how America operates! We go out and have fun, then go fry something!


YOU (presumably emasculated) PUSSY! That is NOT how this country operates! You stand and you fight against ALL tyranny and oppression at ALL COSTS!