Gun Control On The Verge of Passing In The Senate

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Washington D.C.-(Ammoland.com)- Congress is attempting to pass “red flag” gun confiscation orders and other gun control measures in the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act (VAWA).

For years the gun measures have held up negotiations on the bill in the Senate, but it seems like Republicans are ready to cave in pass the bill with the gun control measures intact. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.)([with caveats], and Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said that they see “a path forward” on the bill with the anti-gun provisions in place.

The bill has been one of the centerpieces of President Joe Biden’s anti-gun plan. On the day that Biden announced the David Chipman nomination for Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Director, the president pushed Congress to pass the bill. He framed it as a way to protect women from abusers.

“I held over a thousand hours of hearings to pass the Violence Against Women Act… this has been a hobbyhorse of mine for a long time — got it done once,” Biden told the media during the Chipman announcement.

The bill would establish federal grants to fund firearm seizures from Americans. These grants would be given to states to support the stripping of firearms from the State’s citizens. The bill would also create another category of “red flag” laws that would expand gun confiscations to people convicted of just a misdemeanor.

The bill would also increase funding to prosecute National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) denials. The vast majority of denials are false positives. Roughly 95% of denials are false positives. The funding would burden tens of thousands of law-abiding American gun owners that the system falsely flagged as prohibited.

One of the most concerning parts of the bill is that it provides special appointments and deputations to carry out the gun control measures listed in the proposed law. Many gun-rights advocates see these special appointments as a way of building a new anti-gun force that will violate the firearms rights of Americans. They point out that nothing in the bill makes women safer.

There has been some push back on the bill by Senators Josh Hawley or (R-MO), Tom Cotton (R-AR), and John Cornyn (R-TX). None of the pushback from the Senators centers around the built-in gun control measures. The lack of pushback against the anti-gun efforts concerns many gun rights activists who hoped Republicans would reject the gun control in the bill.

During the hearings in the Senate, Democrats were confident that the bill would be passed with the anti-gun measures intact. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) was all smiles at the end of the hearing on VAWA. He believes that the bill will pass with a filibuster-proof majority. With no filibuster in the House of Representatives, the bill cannot be stopped in that chamber of Congress.

“I look forward to introducing the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act [Senate Compromise Bill] with Senators Ernst, and Feinstein, [and] many of our colleagues, quickly,” Durbin said at the end of the hearing. “We want to move on this. We need to get this bill to a president who is ANXIOUS to receive it as well and sign it into authorization.”

Concerned gun owners have time to encourage their Senators to vote against the VAWA, but time is limited. Right now, it looks like the VAWA has the votes to pass in the Senate with the gun control measures intact.


About John Crump

John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.John Crump

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Arizona

I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, that the degenerates in the Senate will yet again betray their oaths, sell their votes, and screw America over.

AZ Lefty

Well what do you expect for a seditionist GOP

Terry

I’d expect it to generate a dumbass reply from a twinkle-toed communist rump ranger.

Terry

Shook to the core that the same a-holes who held the majority in the senate, house, and the white house and never got a damn thing done would do something like this.

Country Boy

I’d only be shocked if they voted against the anti gun bill. The GOP has far too many RINOS, and are basically just the 2nd wing of the same bird the dems are

Green Mtn. Boy

Two different sides of the same corrupt coin.

swmft

and we get closer to the next waco, will people stand up against the government, that will be the test

JSNMGC

After Chief Deputy, Captain Dan Weanburg (sp?) of the McLennan County Sheriff’s office contacted the BATFE and got them involved in the affairs of the group at Mt. Carmel, nothing happened to him.

When Weanburg directed Gene Barber, who was a Lieutenant of the McLennan County Sheriff’s Department, to work with the BATFE he did so and nothing happened to him.

“Red state*” rural sheriffs are not what people think.

*Texas was almost a red state at the time.

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JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21:

Texas is a red state now too!

Response to Will (“TEX”):

No, it’s not.

Wild Bill

@JSNMGC, If red means conservative and votes for conservatives, then my area in the ROP is very red.
I suppose that it would be fair to say that not ALL of Texas is conservative. There are always a few bugs in the flour.

JSNMGC

23 Republican Representatives
13 Democrat Representatives

Some of the Republican Represenatives vote for even more federal gun control.

That’s purple to me.

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”):

“Yeah,to you it’s purple! Another one of your opinions that you always get confused with fact.”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

Is it your opinion that Texas is “red?”

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”):

“Nope,it’s an easily proven fact that TEXAS is red.”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

I see.

I provided context for my opinion (see data above).

Could you please ask Sheila Jackson Lee to stop writing federal gun control legislation and also ask the Democrat representatives from Texas (as well as Republican representatives like Carter and McCaul) to not vote for such legislation?

Thank you.

Wild Bill

@JSNMGC,
I will get right on that call to Sheila. I have her on speed dial. She only takes my calls because she thinks that my name is Natron ! 😉

JSNMGC

Thank you – your call is appreciated too.

A call to the Republilcans Carter and McCaul letting them know you didn’t appreciate their vote for H.R. 1620 would be helpful as well.

I wonder if Cornyn will vote for the bill?

Stag

It’s almost certain Republican Senator Cornyn will support the bill considering his history of supporting and writing arms control legislation.

Wild Bill

@Stag,
Yes, it is so. Oh, by the way, did you know that Cornyn, is a Latvian word for “rat bastard”! I think that is why his family had to immigrate, here.

JSNMGC

Well, the staffer at his Lubbock office didn’t know whether he was going to vote for it or not, but she said she would pass along my request that he not vote for it.

The number is:
806-472-7533

Wild Bill

@JSNMGC,
Good intel. I’ll call it!

JSNMGC

Thank you.

No one answered his D.C, Houston, or Harlingen numbers.

Choogie

You said it Stag not me. ALMOST. Don’t forget to call him and tell him to make it so.

Choogie

Don’t wonder about it. Call him up and tell him not to vote for any Red Flag Laws. AND that goes for the rest of you as well. Give them directions. They aren’t to good at doing it on their own.

JSNMGC

I did – right after I wrote that comment. Then I posted what his staffer told me and I included the phone number I called.

It’s all documented three posts above yours.

Did you call? What did the staffer tell you?

Russn8r

“rural TEXAS will keep it RED for 100yrs”. NO SALE. It’s infested with dozens of Vichy Rs like Cornyn, Crenshaw, Abbott & his tag-team pal Speaker Phelan.

e.g. Abbott refused to put child gender change on the special agenda “because it has no chance” (after he & Phelan took big $ from gender change firms).

Their games are well documented on https://texasscorecard.com/

Russn8r

“We’re approaching the point where transcripts from Abbott’s pressers can be used as a border wall. Abbott’s usual border crisis theme: ‘We hope Biden fixes it.’

Asked if he’d close ports of entry (urged by challenger Don Huffines to pressure Mexico) Abbott deflected.
   
The crisis won’t be fixed by begging Joe Biden. The states must exercise sovereign authority, stop asking permission, get to work.”

Phelan passed ‘vote integrity’ but cut fraud to misdemeanor. Abbott signed hoping no one noticed. But pressured by irate real Rs, he talked tough, put ‘enhanced penalty’ on the agenda for Phelan to block.

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Wild Bill

@JSNMGC,
Red, purple, or blue, those numbers are a stern warning that we must not sleep, no matter how weary we might be.

JSNMGC

Those numbers only tell part of the story.

People like Carter, McCaul, Cornyn, Crenshaw, and others are another part of the story.

Finnky

@JSNMGC – Thanks for the info. Will call Cornyn as soon as I get out of current meeting. @Wild Bill – My admiration continues to grow. I struggle to just train my dog to not attack other dogs in public. As for cats – maybe I need to stop trying to sweep them away from keyboard, but they distract our parrot and are risk of injury if they piss her off. Janis does however type better than I. @wjd – I hope you are right. Living in suburbs north of Dallas I’ve seen motion both ways. More soccer Moms are… Read more »

JSNMGC

Please consider posting what his staffer says.

Thanks.

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21:

“They says,”I will relay the message”. You got that?”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

I think so. Thanks.

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Wild Bill

@Finnky,
Oh, I did not train them. They are training me!
May God bless you for giving a home to some animals that would otherwise have an uncertain fate.
When we have time, I’ll tell you about Harry the not fast enough race horse. He is my script supervisor. He keeps calling me “Wilbur”, whomever that might be.

Russn8r

TX is pink thx to your ilk humping Vichy Rs.

“Abbott’s presser briefs could be used as a border wall. His usual theme: ‘We hope Biden fixes it.’

Asked if he’d close ports of entry (which is urged by challenger Huffines to pressure Mex) Abb deflected.

The crisis won’t be fixed by begging Biden. States must exercise sovereign authority, stop asking permission, get to work.”
https://texasscorecard.com/

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Wild Bill

@wjd,
As for me, I don’t see the “Conservative vs. Libtard” equation as state by state, but rather as city vs. rural. I see it that way due to the voting maps that I have seen. The good news is that rural people have the cities surrounded. We could starve them out whenever we want to.

Russn8r

“rural TEXAS will keep it red 100yrs” –WillTEX

BS. It’s infested with Vichy Rs like Abbott & tag-team pal Phelan, Cornyn-Crenshaw et ilk. It’ll go red if guys like you stop dissembling/praising them. Their games can be seen on https://texasscorecard.com/ e.g.

Abb refused to put child gender change on the special agenda “because it has no chance” (after he & Phe took big $ from gender change firms).

Phe cut vote fraud to a misdemeanor. Abb signed hoping no one noticed. Pressured by irate real Rs, he talked tough, put ‘enhanced’ penalty (restore felony) on the agenda – for Phe to block for him.

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JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21:

As usual you’re still wrong about everything.

Response to Will (“TEX”):

Was I wrong about the McLennan County Sheriff Department contacting the BATFE and initiating their involvement in the Waco atrocity?

You have said I’m wrong about everything before, but you avoid specifics.

I’d say Texas is purple.

Wild Bill

@JSNMGC,
Mere hyperbole, brother. Anytime someone speaks in absolutes, then it is probably hyperbole. We meant no reproach.

JSNMGC

“We?”

Will (“TEX”) meant reproach.

Wild Bill

@JSNMGC,
Sorry, I meant he. My dog Noodles does all my typing. I’m sure that it was a typo. I will have to speak to him about it.

JSNMGC

Ahh. Will (“TEX”) lashes out emotionally at comments that don’t fit into his worldview. My original point was that there is a misconception among many that rural sheriffs, especially from “red” states, are on the side of good* firearm owners. They (as a group – I’m sure there are some exceptions) are not. I specifically include Wyoming sheriffs in the group who are not on the side of good* firearm owners – they gave public testimony to the Wyoming State Judiciary Committee (when they sided with Moms Demand Action and Everytown for Gun Safety) that all of them want to… Read more »

Wild Bill

@wjd,
You think that is funny … my tom cat is the copy editor. He likes to correct my grammar by walking on the keyboard! He says that my work is perrrfect.

Pa John

Enemy advantage: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”

JPM

We’ll see if it passes and then who will enforce it. In New Mexico all but 3 counties are 2nd Amendment sanctuaries and oddly NM is, and has been a Blue state for decades. Here in Arizona, the governor (surprisingly) signed a bill that prevents enforcement of any new Federal anti-gun laws in the state and other states and counties within states are refusing to enforce anti-gun legislation at any level. Pass all the laws you want, but when people refuse to abide by them and officials refuse to enforce them you’re just pissing in the wind.

Finnky

No we are not. New Texas laws simply say that only feds can enforce new legislation. Existing law will continue enforcing any law the enforced before and will mistakenly enforce new laws. Nobody is going to be stopping federal agents doing whatever the f*** they want. Law was silent as to how our law enforcement will handle redefinitions. ATF would argue that shoelaces are machine guns and pistol braces make SBRs – no legislative changes, so Texas LEO are still free to enforce the newly reinterpreted (pre-existing) law. Not saying I do not approve the new laws, because I do.… Read more »

JSNMGC

Also, there is nothing prohibiting Texas state, county, city/town enforcers from contacting federal enforcers (as they have before) and throwing their neighbor to the wolves. The new Texas laws have no provision that removes the not-so-qualified immunity (that TStheDeplorable doesn’t understand) from Texas enforcers who contact federal enforcers. Also, one of the laws Will (“TEX”) is referring to is the Texas suppressor law. At the time the law was up for vote, Will (“TEX”) claimed there would no longer be a federal process for buying a made-in-Texas suppressor in Texas. That was never the intent of the law and now,… Read more »

JSNMGC

Will – 10/7/21 “You really enjoy calling police enforcers don’t you? I guess in your pea brain it’s insulting to the police.It’s not.” Reply to Will (“TEX”): Most see themselves as enforcers so I wouldn’t imagine they would be insulted by the term. Most would obey almost any order to enforce any law against certain people, and would obey almost any order to not enforce those same laws against other people. When there is a federal law requring the registration of semiautomatic rifles, state, county, and city/town enforcers will be joining federal task forces and/or contacting federal enforcers to enforce… Read more »

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21:

“Yep you fool,they are law “enforcement” officers.”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

Yes, Will, that is the name for the category.

However, just like the dogs in Animal Farm (and the enforcers used by Mao, Stalin, Hitler, the Kim family, Pol Pot, etc.), they are enforcers for those who want their will imposed on non-government employees.

Most will enforce that will in order to retain their government job. A large percentage will do so enthusiastically because they get off on the power trip.

All totalitarians rely on enforcers.

JSNMGC

When there are not enough laws to intimidate the people they want to intimidate, many enforcers will simply fabricate laws and attempt to enforce them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-JHn8n3FdY&ab_channel=AudittheAudit

There are many hundreds of examples of this type of behavior that have been video recorded and are available on youtube.

swmft

and the few good cops get attacked by the bad, remember donna watts florida fhp ??? look it up google it she is one of the very few good cops
@JSNMGC

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JSNMGC

I remember that case. I remember the cops on AR15.com defending the cops who attacked Watts.

Also, when an ex-LAPD enforcer says only 0.05% of enforcers are bad, it’s clear there is a difference of opinion of what is bad.

The hypocrisy is hysterical – that same guy criticizes the BATFE (who are bad) even though the LAPD (who are even worse) enforces much more draconian gun laws than the BATFE.

Russn8r

Fool says fool. They’re Enforcers, WillTex.

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”),

Enforcers have been enforcing tens of thousands of gun control laws for decades.

Most will continue enforcing gun control laws.

Many will bother people who are following gun control laws.

Check out the armed fisherman, put this in your search engine:

Not Going To Comply With An Unlawful Order. I Am Just Fishing. Cocoa, FL Open Carry

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JSNMGC

Will – 10/7/21:

“Does calling the police enforcers make you feel all warm and fuzzy?”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

It’s not an insult.

Enforcers enforce what they are told to enforce against those they are instructed to enforce against. Sometimes they enforce laws without being ordered to do so just to ride the power trip. Sometimes they enforce things that aren’t even laws. Why not?

I’d by content if they just left good people alone.

Aren’t you glad there is so much video evidence available?

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JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21: “The police don’t give a hoot in hell what would make you content or not. Keep cherry picking everything with YouTube. You are just a broken record for the last 13.5 months.” Reply to Will (“TEX”): I think you are correct that most enforcers don’t care about the rights of Americans – rights protected by the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments. Regarding “cherry picking,” – those hundreds and hundreds of isolated incidents are adding up, aren’t they? What’s really weird is that when there are multiple enforcers present when a “bad apple” does something bad,… Read more »

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JSNMGC

It’s easy to pick cherries in a cherry orchard. Will (“TEX”) was an average enforcer and just like the average enforcer he would use laws to mess with people he didn’t like. He would use minor traffic violations to stop people he didn’t like and then use all the cheap cop tricks to do his best to escalate the situation and then lie and charge people with trumped-up charges. The people would not be found guilty because they weren’t guilty. However, the process is the punishment and people like Will use that to punish people for not submitting to his… Read more »

Russn8r

No, but it’s true, and it gets genius “individuals” like you & your sock puppets’ panties twisted because you can’t intimidate, abuse, threaten, shoot or draw for ‘contempt of cop’ like you’d do in person if no cams were on, so it’s a win-win!

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JSNMGC

Can you imagine what he was like in real life, a long, long time ago when he had a badge, a gun, and a radio he could use to lie to his buddies and call them in to help him?

Russn8r

QED. Thanks, genius!

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21: “Every cop calls in back up from time to time. I would had given a weeks pay just to light you up on a routine traffic stop just once. A real tough guy like you could handle it! LMFAO!” Reply to Will (“TEX”): You see, Will (“TEX”) – that is exactly why many people think most enforcers are bad. You were an average enforcer and you let your emotions get the best of you. You would use the authority of your position to punish a “civilian” with whom you have difference of opinion. There is no… Read more »

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Russn8r

Yep. The dumb thug then immediately proceeds to prove your case. Low-IQ enforcer behavior doesn’t work so well in writing.

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JSNMGC

He can’t help himself.

People like Will (“TEX”) don’t think there are many bad apples because he was a bad apple.

JSNMGC

Will is still scratching his head, thinking: was that wrong? Was that wrong for me to say that as law enforcement officer I would light someone up for having a difference of opinion?

Come on Will, don’t be shy – what did you mean when you said you wish you had the opportuntity to light me up?

You admitted you would use a minor traffic law as a pretext to retaliate against a “civilian” and further abuse your authority by the use of unlawful violence. Spell out exactly what you would do.

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21:

“Turning on my blue lights and pulling your ass over isn’t an act of violence. It’s dept.policy. Esp for the deaf and dumb like you. Make that two weeks pay tough guy.”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

Your back peddling doesn’t make any sense as compared to your original comment:

“I would had given a weeks pay just to light you up on a routine traffic stop just once. A real tough guy like you could handle it! LMFAO!”

Is this how you and your buddies did things – make threats using words with two meanings?

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JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21:
 
“I forget an idiot civilian like you doesn’t understand very basic police jargon and terminology You think it was some code? You really are a complete moron. Now go away pissant and annoy someone else.”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

Why would turning on your lights provide you with so much gratification that you would give two weeks of pay to do it (when turning on your lights is something you could easily do with no consequences)?

JSNMGC

Light ‘Em Up – initiate a traffic stop by turning on blue lights. Also used as an unofficial command to begin firing at a suspect(s)

https://leelofland.com/the-language-of-police-cop-slang/

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21: “I would give two weeks pay to pull YOU over for a broken tail light. We would have to discuss that broken tail light while I wrote out the citation. If your behavior was erratic too then I would ask you to get out of the car for further questioning and evaluation. Then so on,so on,and so on!” Reply to Will (“TEX”): Yes, I’ve seen the videos – I know how it works. You’re in deep – keep digging. Maybe you could claim I made a “furtive movement” – how fun! So many enforcers are cringing… Read more »

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”) – 10/7/21: “Yep,you really enjoy YouTube don’t you? That’s such a reliable source of bullshit.” Reply to Will (“TEX”): There you go again dismissing evidence because of the platform through which it is provided. You did the same thing when the WY enforcers sided with Moms Demand Action and Everytown for Gun Safety and provided public testimony indicating they wanted to be able to cooperate with federal enforcers to enforce any and all new federal gun laws. Would the exact same video evidence be somehow more credible to you if it was hosted on Sean Hannity’s website? Were… Read more »

Russn8r

Genius enforcer shoots young mom in back of head for contempt of cop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QOmD9RWk60&lc=

Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.

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Russn8r

“Turn on my blue lights & pull your ass over”-WillTEX

Too bad you can’t turn on a light in your head so you don’t get owned all the time. Or at least be smart enough to know you’re owned. After a life of confusing thug-power with IQ & groveling with respect, you have no mental equivalent of a side arm to control smart people. Sad.

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Russn8r

QED. Hahahaha, owned again!

JSNMGC

They are forming the thin blue line.

There is no worse crime in their minds than contempt of cop (even when the cop is a “bad apple”).

Russn8r

Hahahaha! The Dim Blue Bulb finally went off in WillTEX’s head, flashing “you’re owned”, so his M.O. kicked in: Delete & RUN AWAY like hyena with false penis, lurk & downvote with hyena pups.

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JSNMGC

Quoting Will on the internet to save his thuggery for posterity is the equivalent of video recording “bad apples” in real life.

Russn8r

Why does the Dim Blue Light bother deleting & running like a faux-penis hyena? It’s all forgotten soon enough anyway. Does it help him believe his sock pups when they stroke him & tell him he won?

JSNMGC

I don’t know. “Bad apples” do all sorts of illogical things in an attempt to destroy, hide, alter, or fabricate evidence.

They commit outrageous acts of abuse of power while they are recording themselves.

It’s beyond comprehension.

Russn8r

“’Bad apples’ do all sorts of illogical things”
The Dim Blue Light.

Russn8r

He got used to confusing thug-power with IQ. If a situation calls for brains – like online if folks with them don’t show the groveling phony ‘respect’ to ‘authoritah’ he’s used to, if they call BS or cite facts that make him mad – what’s a mentally unarmed ex-enforcer with 8 sock pups to do? He needs backup every time. But his socks have his 85 IQ so all he can do is talk tough, go to poopy-mouth juvenile insults, write “LMFAO!!!”, pretend he’s winning & downvote 8x. But it’s just not the same. He still gets owned & we’re… Read more »

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JSNMGC

It’s interesting that no “good apples” are condemning him for his desire to use his authority to punish people with whom he disagrees.

Just like the many hundreds of videos show, they back each other up no matter what in an extremely high percentage of cases.

JSNMGC

Will – 10/7/21: “Why any condemnation for a cop pulling over a car for a broken tail light? That’s what traffic does is issue citations for violation of traffic laws and motor vehicle violations.Do understand now kid?” Reply to Will (“TEX”): Did that defense really work for you in real life? Would a reasonable person read what you wrote: “I would give two weeks pay to pull YOU over for a broken tail light. We would have to discuss that broken tail light while I wrote out the citation. If your behavior was erratic too then I would ask you… Read more »

Finnky

Just as the firearms industry finds work-arounds for poorly written laws, LEO will take advantage of every chink in laws protecting our rights from them. I enjoy how you are able to consider reactions and describe how laws should be written to actually serve their (nominal) purpose. I think many do not appreciate the work required to properly craft laws.

Of course @wjd does not appreciate what you write because as a blue-noser he is unable to pull his nose from their behind long enough to consider that police are not benevolent gods.

JSNMGC

People who erroneously write about the protections offered by state laws are reckless.

JSNMGC

Texas, Wyoming, Colorado, whatever . . . The Wyoming representative didn’t vote for this law, but she is a big-government statist. She hasn’t challenged Shannon Watts to a detailed, internet-based debate on gun control in order to provide better information for white suburban women. Politics is a dodecahedron. I watch what legislation legislators vote for and what causes they decide to be outspoken about and I form an opinion of what side most of them are on. I watch what armed non-civilians do on camera and read what they say on the internet and form an opinion of what side… Read more »

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JSNMGC

Still no specifics – you just claim I’m wrong about everything.

The laws have no provision to remove the not-so-qualified immunity of enforcers if they contact federal enforcers.

There is still a federal process for buying a made-in-Texas suppressor in Texas. Call any firearm store in Texas that sells suppressors and ask them if you need to go through the federal process – they will say “yes.” You were wrong about that, Will (“TEX”).

JSNMGC

Will (“TEX”)” – 10/7/21

“You’ve been wrong about everything for 13.5 months here on AMMOLAND.”

Reply to Will (“TEX”):

Still no specifics and still wrong on the amount of time I’ve been here.

Finnky

A friend once told me (in discussing an annoying young woman) that usually the newly converted are the most enthusiastically dogmatic. While those with religious maturity look beyond literal wordings of any particular branch of their religion to the greater more general rules such as treating your neighbors as you wish to be treated. i believe there are similarities in how we treat our freedoms. Those who grew up without idiotic rules often do not appreciate what they have – sometimes not recognizing risks until they materialize, Those who, like me, grew up restricted appreciate freedom once we find it.… Read more »

Russn8r

That’s a reach.

Montana454Casull

Thier oath to uphold the constitution means nothing . So in response anything these Marxist idiots pass means nothing . If it violates thier oath or the constitution then it is to be ignored as unconstitutional. Nice try clowns in DC but your circus act is a joke that I will never comply with .

JSNMGC

The people who will enforce the laws took “oaths” as well – many of them at two different times in their life as armed, non-civilian, government employees.

Mac

It’s past time that we elect GOP congress people that have a backbone!

JSNMGC

They don’t need a backbone because they know people who view themselves as strong 2nd Amendment supporters will not only vote for them, but defend them when they push for more gun control.

It’s on full display on this board frequently.

Wild Bill

@Mac, Yes! And at least some modicum of knowledge about the Constitution. And some conscience.

pureamericana

Never ever imagined things would get to this point inside the USA. We are at a cross-roads and must consider our history, our Constitutional Rights and what our ancestors fought and died for in creating. Do we abandon all that was sacrificed for or do we do as our Founders would have expected ?

Regret to think that power crazed temporary politicians may start something thing they will be unable to stop. Maybe it was bound to happen at sometime?

Tank

We are living & watching a incremental death by a thousand cuts war of attrition on USA from within based on the Roman axiom – “ By Endurance We Conquer” of the Roman Masonic system in place & tactics used by Roman Emperor Fabian. He was dubbed “Cunctator” for a reason & it’s not a compliment. The founder & origin of irregular Guerrilla Warfare (they don’t teach it in schools either) against it’s own people. Also the origin of Fabian Socialism’s name. Stuff they leave out & don’t teach either. Who was Fabian ? https://www.fabian-ltd.com/About/Fabian.htm Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus https://www.britannica.com/biography/Quintus-Fabius-Maximus-Verrucosus… Read more »

Wild Bill

@Tank,
I would like to recommend to you “In the Name of Rome” by Adrian Goldsworthy. It is about the generals that built the Roman Empire. I think that you will like it, and you can find a copy, inexpensively, on one of the various used book sites.

Tank

Thanks appreciate.

JSNMGC

Nothing will happen to them and the politicians who are “fighting for your 2nd Amendment rights” will not do one thing to organize an effort to see that those criminals:

  • Lose their jobs;
  • Lose their benefits, including their pensions;
  • Be put on a list of people who are not allowed to work for any federal government entity;
  • Be required to pay back the amounts they illegally received; and
  • Pay fines.
Arny

You’re right they have already persecuted the messenger.

JSNMGC

Thanks for posting the article.

The most likely outcome (based on countless other examples of egregious behaviour by federal, state, county, and city/town law enforcement), is that they will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.

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hippybiker

Enjoy your 25 pieces of Silver. Turncoats!

Wild Bill

@hippy,
I think that the price was thirty pieces of silver. Unless you mean that modern turncoats are underpaid.

Bobocat

All one has to do is mention “Woman” and they all jump on board no matter what the outcome.

Russn8r

I know I do! LOL

JimmyS

Unless and until good people with guns stand up to criminals trying to take away the guns (and all of our other rights) nothing is going to change. This is the way of the world. The scumbags use force to make us comply, and that is the very tactic required of us to resecure our liberty.

Choogie

I suggest all of us Call our Senators first and raise hell to them about passing such a law. Do that first and foremost. It’s like VOTING ! If you don’t give them directions, Don’t complain about the state you wind up being in. It will be a Blue state for sure if you don’t ACT and call them TODAY!

JSNMGC

A little more information on the bill: H.R. 1620 Sponsor: Representative Sheila Jackson Lee (TX) Passed by the House: 3/17/21 Let’s not neglect to give the 29 Republican representatives who voted for H.R. 1620 the publicity they deserve: Balderson – OH Bice – OK Bost – IL Carter – TX Cole – OK Davis – IL Diaz-Balart – FL Fitzpatrick – PA Gimenez – FL Gonzalez – OH Issa – CA Jacobs – NY Joyce – OH Katko – NY Kim – CA Malliotakis – NY McCaul – TX Meijer – MI Miller-Meeks – IA Mullin – OK Reed – NY Simpson… Read more »

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Bruce

These Republicans need to be replaced. While we’re at it dump McConnel and Graham.

There is a big difference betweed Republicans and Conservatives. Sadly Republicans have become Democrat (socialist) lite.

JSNMGC

Unfortunately, it’s in the nature of most government employees who represent or interact with non-government employees to attempt to control non-government employees. A free civilization (mid point between anarchy and totalitarianism) requires laws and people to enforce and prosecute violations of the laws. However, most politicians have positioned themselves away from the free civilization range on the continuum and placed themselves at various points in the totalitarianism range. We already have more than enough laws to prosecute people who commit violence against women (or anyone else). Regrettably, we have so many laws now, that enforcers and prosecutors can ruin (or… Read more »

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vepr

You keyboard commandos beating your chests from your easy chairs while your wives make your sandwiches and cut your lawns can’t even unhook from your c-pap machine long enough to go to the mailbox, let alone play out your geriatric Rambo fantasies.

But you CAN call your senators and raise hell at their betrayal of the country..

Bill

Insulting people has always been the best way to build a cooperative force. Way to go, man!

vepr

Truth hurts…eh bill ?

Lol

Wild Bill

Unless you have met the man, you could not know any truth about him. Just saying…

Russn8r

Never stopped you from flapping your cockpit.

Big George

Well geeeeee…I live in Commiefornia AND I just finished cleaning my Cpap filter, so I suppose I have time to call my CA U.S.Senators!...hummmmm, who should I call first to tell them to vote against this bill??!!…FEINSTEIN(D) or PADILLA(D)??!!

Russn8r

Neither. Calling grabbers in secure districts is clueless. Nothing prevents calling potentially vulnerable = receptive pols in other states e.g. Manchin, Tester & Sinema.

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Russn8r

Chatroom commando irony. Did you ever sacrifice in a significant intelligent way to win elections & save the USA?

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