U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)- Earlier today, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) announced the imminent launch of a new electronic system for NFA transfers. Known as the eForms system, this overdue modernization will allow consumers to submit both ATF Forms 1 and 4 electronically, hopefully resulting in a significant decrease in transfer times when compared to traditional paper Forms.
According to ATF, the transition to the new system will occur sometime after December 15th, but before Christmas. The new eForms system will handle all existing NFA transfer forms, including the ATF Form 4.
If you recently submitted an NFA application, keep it in the queue. We cannot stress this enough. Withdrawing your Form 4 and re-submitting electronically will take longer than allowing your Form 4 to make its way through the approval process.
That’s because ATF isn’t going to dig through the tens of thousands of forms being processed to find your application. They’re going to wait until your Form 4 reaches an NFA examiner’s desk – the exact point at which it would normally be approved – to process your withdrawal. Instead of approving it though, they will acknowledge your withdrawal and release your serial number. You will not be able to re-submit an eForm 4 with the same serial number until ATF acknowledges your withdrawal and puts it back into your dealers’ inventory.
Thus, withdrawing and re-submitting electronically will add months to your overall application process.
Once the transition to the new eForms system begins, ATF estimates that the transition will take between two to four days to complete, at which point the new eForms system will go live. ATF has indicated that they will notify the industry 24 to 48 hours prior to the transition, and we will let you know as soon as we receive this notification.
While traditional paper-based applications will remain a viable option, ASA’s recommendation to consumers is that they submit new NFA applications electronically. That’s because, if the new eForms system works as promised, it will increase efficiencies by reducing form submission and payment processing times, eliminating weeks of delays in data processing, and all but eradicating data entry errors.
As we gather more information, we will keep you posted. In the meantime, stay tuned by following the American Suppressor Association on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube, and by subscribing to our newsletter.
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The “new” electronic form 4? “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. The 2A. According to the constitution the government has zero, nun, nada, no right to anything related to militia or firearms, nun. Neither does it have the right to tax RIGHTS. Then again, the batfe is famous for killing innocent men, women, children and babies over their illegal, unconstitutional, $200.00 tax stamps. With the corruption, treason and tyranny we see in government, local and federal, the true freedoms and rights the American citizen has my actually equal citizens of russia, china… Read more »
Hell try running your vehicle without a muffler. The Irony is almost funny. lol
REALIZE: WE had the House and Senate PLUS the Whitehouse for TWO YEARS and WE, THE PEOPLE didn’t do a damn thing! WE sat on our complacent asses ASSUMING the NRA would handle everything. WE sat on our asses ASSUMING THAT WE didn’t play any major part in MOVING CONGRESS AND SENATE TO DO WHAT “WE, THE PEOPLE” DEMAND! WE might have ONE MORE CHANCE this coming November. WATCH US FUCK THIS ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY UP TOO!
I will never own an nfa item as I refuse to pay a tax and submit info, thus granting legitimacy to their unlawful and unconstitutional racket.
If we ever need those items, we will take them from our enemies.
“If we ever need those items, we will take them from our enemies.”
Correction… “DEAD enemies”
A garrote or knife blade to the brain stem silently gets you a pistol. A pistol gets you a rifle. A rifle gets more rifles and maybe some grenades. Rifles and grenades take out machine gun crews. Machine guns can score some heavier weapons or armor. Anyone know how to fly… now you can take the airport. Be committed once the shit starts and become like the mujaheddin that drove out the Soviet military.
Yes, dead enemies. I prefer the traditional convoy ambush, myself.
It’s all about laying the foundation bedrock for the eventual agenda of Gun owner registry & final goal of UN confiscation Agenda 2030.
Trust can never be regained & why should it ?
Why would you trust anyone who already betrays you over & over ?
Problem is, “THEY” keep creating all these “agendas” and WE sit on our asses WAITING FOR THEM TO COME TO FRUITATION… 1984, Homeland Security, Agenda 21, (THAT got whacked by the virus, unless THAT was the Atom Bomb in case Agenda 21 didn’t come into play), now Agenda 2030. When are WE, The People going to form a coalition, much like the Loudin County PARENTS) and place the government ON NOTICE to reel in all their anti-citizen bullshit and start OPERATING INSIDE THE PARAMETERS OF THE CONSTITUTION? Hell, it isn’t like we don’t have enough attorneys and funds… Looks like… Read more »
There was a case winding it’s way through the courts that had a high likelihood of not only tearing out the Hughes Amendment, but gut much if not all of FOPA. Bronsozian v US was denied a writ of certiorari last year and then strangely enough the feds moved to drop the indictment in order to protect the system. They did the exact same thing a few years back concerning Roh v US.
Why will it be any shorter just because you submit it electronically? They still haven’t hired any new examiners. Now instead of coming into the office and picking up a pile of papers, the examiners will open the computer and see the application. So it does skip the step of the examiner entering the data into a computer. Otherwise they are still inundated with hundreds of thousands of form 1 sbr and home build silencer applications, tens of thousands of form 4 manufactured silencer applications, And thousands of form 4 transfer machine gun applications. The form one transfers do go… Read more »
“There’s no legal limit to how long they can take to process it.” You may want to check into the DUE PROCESS standards established by the Constitution. As for the rest of your question, think: ALGORITHYMS!
wow! so out of character for the bureau. probably because it is easier to scan the information into a database than by hand, with less errors also. kind of like the 4473’s.
Like I mentioned above, think: ALGORITHYMS! Then think WHAT VIOLATIONS can occur by using them… Does the 2020 election ring a bell?
If the ATF really wanted to speed things up for firearms buyers, the ATF would abolish itself. To hell with the ATF
If WE, The People would use the balls that God gave us and TAKE CHARGE of our country, collectively as was intended in the founding of this “experiment” we wouldn’t be having all these problems. It’s called COALITION, the action is called, PUT ON NOTICE and corral their uppity-intent and PUT THEM IN COMPLIANCE with We, The People’s demands for how WE want OUR country governed. Hmmm… Sounds kind of like page 12 of that book called, The U.S. Constitution. Problem is, it doesn’t have a recipe to overcome men’s and women’s misguided APATHY!.
READ THE LEGISLATION!
In the founding era (after our country was formed), we didn’t have hundreds of government agencies with armed government employees strutting around ordering people around while they patted themselves on the back and expecting other people to pat them on the back.
People didn’t complain that armed government employees were not enforcing gun control laws.
The entire experiment of self-governing was founded on the idea of people producing goods/services and trading with one another and people of other countries. Government (and government employees) were supposed to be in the background. The concept of armed government employees was repulsive.
“The entire experiment of self-governing was founded on the idea of people…” BEING SMART ENOUGH TO PERFORM SIMPLE TASKS AND MAINTAIN THEIR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS!
Yes. They told government officials to piss-off. Government officials did not like the colonists “giving them lip.” Government officials sent in the military who tried to enforce gun control and other objectionable laws. The members of the military wanted to keep their jobs, so they followed orders. The colonists shot the members of their own military in the face. Those armed government employees who survived did the walk of shame back to the ships and left the colonists alone. The new government employees (of the new country) were more humble. The new government employees were reluctant to pay people to… Read more »
By the way, many of those redcoats didn’t like the people to whom they answered (back in England), but they did their bidding nonetheless. They were organized in highly structured units. They had colonels who had been were the action was in previous engagements. They had intelligence organizations. They had communications. They had logistics. They had incredible military discipline. They had crew served weapons. They had uniforms and medals. They used cool military phrases with each other. They were respected by all the other armies in the world. They looked down at the “civilians” whom they had been ordering about… Read more »
TEX (“Will”)
“Founding era? Just another made up term. There’s no record of any forms,fees,or permission from that era.”
Reply to TEX (“Wll”):
I believe that was his point.
Definetly below 95 and I believe another estimator may well have been correct that it’s under 90 (he was certainly correct on a number of other things).
I wonder how many enforcers cringe when you post.
Furthermore, you recently expressed how you want gun control laws enforced and violators kept in jail. Good grief.
How much longer is Ammoland going to allow you to run three accounts, Will?
[Chuckle]
He messed-up when he hesitated on downvoting me about mentioning xxxxxxx. It was particularly funny because of his hyprocrisy, wanting to xxxxxxxx when he had actually xxxxxx.
Three people instantly downvote every post, then all three hesitated on this one sensitive issue. Strong evidence that TEX (“Will”) is voting with three accounts.
I’m curious as to how he deletes his comments ? I believe you went down this road before with possibly Russ.
TEX (“Will”) “Arny,this moron acts like he has everything figured out which is hilarious. He’s just constantly and consistently wrong about everything. He’s even too stupid to figure out how to delete comments or to see in real time how someone votes up or down. Just not anywhere near the brightest light in the house.” Reply to TEX (“Will”) Did your other two accounts give you immediate upvotes? Since you believe Abbatt did away with the need for going through the federal process for a made-in Texas suppressor, have you bought one without going through the federal process? You have… Read more »
He can’t help himself – he let loose with a full broadside from all three accounts.
What’s on the agenda today, TEX (et al.)? Going to sit in front of your computers all day ready to downvote people who are pro 2nd Amendment and who abhor totalitarianism?
Ooops, Abbott.
TEX (“Will”) – 12/5/21
“Arny,I really doubt he will go down anymore roads with Ruski. They, “Frick and Frack”,could always count on each other for an upvote. That must be devastating to them too because they are downvote magnets ! Too damn funny!”
Reply to TEX (“Will”):
The downvotes are useful, TEX (“Will,” et al.).
Even more useful are the lack of comments from “good apples” when “bad apples” (like you) write comments that show they are bad.
TEX (“Will”)
“Arny,I really doubt he will go down anymore roads with Ruski.”
Reply to (“Will”)
Please explain.
‘go down…downvote magnets! Too damn funny!’ -WillTEXFordWILL et ilk
What’s funny is how you ‘go down’ on folks for votes, upvote yourself & downvote higher IQs with suck puppets.
LMFAO!
Most amusing thing on Ammoland: seeing TEX-Will-FordWILL & his other 20 low-IQ ex-cop sock pups suck up for attention. Typical example:
“That’s a GREAT comment and I agree 100%!!!!!!!”
He often licks up to contradictory comments on the same page. Pathetic but amusing.
TEX (“Will”) – 12/3/21:
“Texas Gov Greg Abbott took care of this NFA BS for silencers in the Lone Star State.Made in TEXAS,stays in TEXAS. No federal nonsense involved!”
Repley to TEX (“Will”):
You have child-like ability to completely ignore reality.
Could you please list the retailers who are selling made-in-Texas suppressors to people who have not gone through the federal process?
Dear ATF officer,
Hopefully, even if he has it, TEX is not stupid enough to provide you with the list your agency wants.
BTW, when will my Form 4 be done?
MajorMike, Let me spell it out for you: TEX (“Will”) continues to claim Abbott “took care” of the NFA as it relates to suppressors made, sold, and kept in Texas and that “no federal nonsense is involved.” That is as incorrect now as when he first started making those claims. I hope no one is so uninformed that they would believe what he is saying and engage in these transactions because they are going to get jammed-up. The legislation Abbott signed into law merely indicates that people involved in these transactions won’t be prosecuted by Texas authorities. Because the federal… Read more »
You obviously do not understand the legislation either.
I did not know that he could spell.
Yes, my writing is horrific.
$100 says if I open a sock puppet account, TEX/Will Bill will be all over my jock before he figures it out.
Try something really clever like he did, maybe Russn8r_Lexus.
That’d be unfair advantage. Maybe a bit easier like Russn9r. Probably still wouldn’t get it, but at least he’d have a chance.
This would get tiring pretty quick:
“@Russn8r_Lexus,very good comment and I agree with you 100%!!!!!!!!”
You were the one who didn’t read it, remember? You indicated it didn’t matter where the suppressors were sold.
What do you think I got wrong?
TEX (“Will”) – 12/5/21 “You could build mountains out of what that pissant don’t understand. He lives and annoys everyone in Wyoming but acts like he an authority on everything in Texas. I just sit back and enjoy it making an ass out of itself.” Reply to TEX (“Will”): USMC0351Grunt is starting to adopt your habit of saying I’m wrong and then not pointing at anything specific. You keep indicating Abbott made the federal process for buying a made-in Texas suppressor (sold in Texas) go away. All the legislation did was indicate Texas wouuld not prosecute people who didn’t… Read more »
Cuck Abbott only signs conservative legislation under heavy pressure from real conservatives.
Yes, and many Texans (here and on other boards) frequently make that point.
Before “TEX” gets his lone star shorts all twisted – that puts Abbott in the same club as many other Republican governors, including Gordon.
I can confirm. Not only did I get that letter but I heard it straight from the ATF agent that audited me in October. They will continue to enforce unconstitutional laws no matter what Abbott or any other politician in Texas has to say about it.
Maybe this time the challenge to federal law will be successful. Statists, and their desire for an ever-expanding government, allowed the NFA of 1934 to be created. The early reporting on the Texas law was reckless and some people still can’t shake the mistaken belief that they are good to go. Either that or they are malicious and are attempting to ruin someone’s life. Kettler and Cox suffered some pain and it may go even worse the next time: https://apnews.com/article/91541e86b9894ef28db49c75c52c3461 Best wishes to whoever takes the plunge and I hope the person who does it does so understanding all the… Read more »
Good morning, TEX (“Will,” et al.). Still casting your three votes, I see. I went to a political meeting last night and we discussed the subset of people who claim to be pro 2nd Amendment, but: Say things like: “Start charging the turds who violate firearms laws and keep them jailed.” Support people who enforce never-ending gun laws. The consensus of the group was that the people who do those two things is a shrinking number – just like the group of people who think the NRA is fighting for their rights and all we need to do is get… Read more »
“You could build mountains out of what that pissant don’t understand.” -WillTEXFordWILLWildBill
Duh HUH!!! Huh huh!
You obviously have, “child-like ability” to understand the legislation!
Please be specific.
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