Idealism is Killing Our Kids at School

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Idealism is Killing Our Kids at School

U.S.A. –-( Imagine this scenario for a moment. Pretend that we’re at a parent-teacher conference and the child is having problems at school.

T- I’m concerned that your child doesn’t study.

P- Children shouldn’t have to study.

T- I’m concerned about your child’s musical ability. Your child doesn’t practice his instrument for music class.

P- Children shouldn’t have to practice in order to make music.

T- I’m concerned about your child’s physical development. Your child doesn’t put in any effort in PE.

P- Children shouldn’t have to put in effort in their physical education class.

To most of us, this parent is such a naïve idealist that the exchange sounds ridiculous. If this discussion were real then we would be seriously concerned about this child’s future.

I don’t want to be the one who tells you the truth about Santa Claus, but we can agree that the world isn’t the way we want it. Sure, I wish there were a way we could build insightful minds and athletic bodies without effort. We all want that, but Utopia isn’t an option. Refusing to do the work hasn’t moved us toward that ideal. Refusing to do the work has only left us weak and ignorant. That wastes lives.

Now let me add another line to the dialogue, a conversation that I’ve actually heard.

T- I’m concerned about your child’s physical safety at school. We want to train school staff so they can stop violent attacks in school and then treat the injured.

P- Staff and students shouldn’t have to worry about violent attacks in school.

I wish this was a fantasy story, but that summarizes the complaints I’ve read about protecting our children.

Pretending that the world is safe and sane doesn’t change the world, nor does it keep our children safe in school. We have to deal with the world as it is, not as we wish it to be. I agree that we don’t want violent criminals with guns in our schools, but they go there to kill and get media attention anyway. The question isn’t if violent murderers should exist. The question is how we should protect our students from them. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.

I’m sorry to be the one to tell you but wanting isn’t enough. What we want doesn’t matter if we aren’t willing act on it. I’m disappointed that we don’t live in paradise, but now we get our hands dirty with the hard work of making the world better. Naïve idealism is killing our kids at school.

We already dealt with this. Illness doesn’t belong at school, but we have a school nurse because children deserve treatment. Hunger doesn’t belong at school, but we have a cafeteria at school because children need to eat. Emotional problems and mental illness don’t belong at school, but we have guidance counselors at school because the world isn’t perfect and we can make it better. We have fire extinguishers and sprinklers even though building fires don’t “belong at school.”

Lots of things should not go wrong, but they do. I wear a seatbelt when I drive. I have a fire extinguisher in my home, and I hope you have one too. I have those because bad things happen to good people even though they don’t deserve it.

The sad fact is that some people want to hurt our kids. They do it so we will spend days talking about them if they simply kill enough innocent children. These monsters would rather be dead than go unnoticed. I don’t like that and I don’t know anyone who does. That is the way the world is today.

Maybe my perspective is different than yours because of what I’ve seen. I’ve seen school staff take training to be first responders. Sometimes they talk themselves out of the class because they are afraid they might make a mistake and hurt an innocent person. I’ve also seen teachers talk themselves back into the program as we work through a day of medical training. They realize they would do anything so that it wouldn’t be their kids they were struggling to save.

trauma medicine training

Now I’m going to ask a very hard question. Life and death in school shootings is always a matter of time. We will stop most of these murderers before they start their attack but we can stop all of them soon after. How long would you like us to wait until we stop the next mass murderer in school? How long should we wait until we treat the injured?

We can have trained volunteer staff on the scene who will respond in seconds. We could also wait for most of an hour until the police declare that the school is secure so EMTs will move in and sort the dead from the dying.

The world is not the utopia we want it to be. We can accept that tough realization or we can watch the seconds tick by and curse an imperfect world.

How many children should die while adults play pretend? Fortunately, that is up to us.

About Rob Morse

The original article, with sources, is posted here. Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, at Second Call Defense, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob was an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.Rob Morse

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The true danger in facing students and families in public monopoly schools far exceed the capabilities of a trauma kit. The real danger is this: in 1973 a group of Weather Underground terrorists copied and pasted a document called the Prairie Fire Manifesto together from previous iterations of communist platforms and manifestos. That document spread like wildfire among naive and ill informed undergraduates coast to coast. This document laid out the plan to upend American institutions and the American Republic. Top of the target list was public education. Public education is the perfect monopoly: government funded with nearly unlimited sources… Read more »


you left out obummers link to weather underground

Wild Bill

What is Oblabla’s link to the weather underground?


he has connections with bill ayers

Wild Bill

Oh, I see what you mean, now. MC.


You left out Pre-K and Clinton’s “Village” idiots and school “counselors” and other “professionals” that got involved in giving lip-service to the custody courts and screwing-up our children, destroying the father/child relationships.


Sounds like there is a story there. I haven’t heard of such goings on – care to share more?


The passage of the No Gun Zone law in 1990, sponsored by joe biden, which banned guns in certain public places notably public schools facilitated these shootings. This law “enables and guarantees a successful mass shooting every time” by making everyone in the public school system or venue defenseless and easy targets. This law also guaranteed the shooters’ safety by making sure they alone had weapons during the carnage. Please notice that all these shooting occur at public schools, this law does not cover private schools or events which have their own armed security. There have been no mass shootings… Read more »


Well said.

Last edited 1 year ago by Bubba

You forgot, sponsored by Wayne LaPierre


Vince, thank you for the stats on private schools. One would think that public schools would use that as an example of how to protect students in public schools. Those in charge are more concerned with gun control than safety of students.


“If it’s stopped quickly by other armed individuals it doesn’t become a mass shooting.”

That works if the other armed individuals are not cowards (like the Cowards of Broward) and they are competent.


Good article, Rob. Reminds me of something I heard a while back (can’t remember who I heard it from though). It goes something like this: When you learn to sail, you don’t learn how to tame the seas, you learn how to navigate rough waters.


How can anyone be naive enough to think that criminals obey ‘No Firearms’ signs? What such signs actually do is bolster a criminal’s assurance that he will meet with less resistance from decent, law-abiding citizens. The signs are ass-backward. They should state ‘Firearms Allowed For Necessary Use Against Criminals’ We certainly don’t need to be advocating criminal activity by posting anti-2nd amendment signs that serve only to reassure the criminals.

Last edited 1 year ago by ExGob

12/15/1791 The Bill of Rights was Enacted on this Date. Arm Up Carry On…

WI Patriot

Simple solution, homeschool…


Universal School Vouchers.

Wild Bill

Both! MC.


Yep. Few can afford to homeschool even if they’d be good at it. Vouchers restore public ed to everyone including city blacks who desperately need it, end commie-prostitot-LGBTQXYZ indoctrination-evangelism (except for commie-libs who want to subject their spawn to that).

Last edited 1 year ago by Russn8r

ANY parent can homeschool. Its not that compliated. Coop groups also work well. One might know nuimbers, another language, older kids can teach the younger skills they already have, etc.


BS. Many struggle to get by (both work full-time), many are illiterate. You callously project your situation onto them. If it were so easy everyone would do it.

Last edited 1 year ago by Russn8r
Wild Bill

Texas is very supportive of the home school community, with model curriculum, and suggested reading. All of the ranch families around us home school.


Your last line is a very important one. Large contributor to why home schooled children tend to be more successful. There is an expression among teachers – “you never really learn something until you teach it.” Something of an exaggeration, but there is truth to the statement as well. When older kids teach younger ones, the younger learn to respect the older, while the old learn responsibility, leadership, self respect, how to see issues in multiple ways (to better explain to kids who learn differently) and totally cement the subject matter in their own heads. In short, having older kids… Read more »


One of my sisters did just that and has (5) finished up and successfully through college and into great careers then (2) more soon on their way.

Deplorable Bill

“Gun free zones” permit the criminal, terrorist, malcontent a lot of easy targets with no threat of return violence. Seems so obvious it makes you wonder who the fool was that came up with the idea and why he did not research further. Anyone who empowers a shooter, terrorist by disarming the public is every bit as responsible for any deaths, injuries, mental anguish and destroyed property as the shooter is. When the courts allow law suits against them things might change. When something happens to their children we will see some change. Government IS accountable to the people it… Read more »


The fool who came up with the idea appears to be Wayne “Lucky” (La)Pierre. The La is optional.


c.s. lewis said, “We were promised sufferings. They were part of the program. We were even told, ‘Blessed are they that mourn,’ and I accept it. I’ve got nothing that I hadn’t bargained for. Of course it is different when the thing happens to oneself, not to others, and in reality, not imagination.” or as i like to paraphrase it, “deal with reality as it is, not how you want it to be.” i have brought up the FASTER program to the miami-dade school board several times and have not even had a single response from any of them. idealism… Read more »


See my comments above. Complaining at school board meetings is like standing in the surf and cursing the tide. The ship has sailed on ‘reforming’ public monopoly education. Universal School Vouchers are the key to the only solution. Please encourage Ron DeSantis to make this a central plank in his platform when he runs for President. It will be a winner coast to coast but the Republican establishment is afraid of any real market based, liberty directed reform.

Wild Bill

Yeah, the public school system is no longer serving America.


It hasn’t for decades.


The folks in Broward County had met with FASTER people about two weeks before that criminal misfit went on his totally preventable rampage and muederd 27 or so. Had that programme been in place, and armed/trained scholol staff been on hand, that day would have gone far differently. I’m certain Aaron Feiss would have signed up and gotten qualified. Hed have been carrying his own weapon that day, and the dirtbag punk would have met a far earlier end to his rampage. Right after that shoot-em-up they voted to abandon that programme, and not implement it in those schools.


I imagine they took another look at the program. See – considering it didn’t help, so why would they think that actually implementing it would do any more? ^^^ Not my thoughts – what I imagine Broward County supervisors thought. Alternatively they may have realized that belated implementing the program would make their shortcomings even more obvious, creating political problems for them (as individuals). I don’t know how long it takes to get FASTER into place in a school district. Bureaucracies move slow – and they’d need to approve program overall, individual school plans, individual teachers/staff to be in the… Read more »


That’s because without these shootings the leftists have nothing in their bag of shit to force gun control measures. Do you think they would turn their attention to Chicago shootings if school shootings were avoided? Lol. They don’t even acknowledge they happen. School choice is a big huge Mother-F’ing dent in their ability for Gun Control. The faster we get rid of public schools the faster we can back on track to be a great nation once again. Oh yeah and hang all the traitors to the Constitution and BOR in our midst. That would be a great start as… Read more »


“Oh yeah and hang all the traitors to the Constitution and BOR in our midst.”

Now, that’s funny – I love incongruity.

Did you know Twisted Sister is becoming one of the most popular bands in Australia?

Do the people in your new state know what you did?


If it wasn’t so sad . . .

When SS and Gestapo agents (who enforced the will of Hitler and his henchmen) moved to Argentina, I wonder how many just laid low and how many virtue-signaled about the evils of Nazism.


“No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh, you and your uniform
We’re not gonna take it . . . anymore”


Oh, you’re going to take it…or else.


The Australians are starting to care less about who are making the rules and they are pushing back against those who are enforcing the rules.

At some point, that’s what it comes down to – who is going to make a person’s family get on a bus to a COVID internment camp and who is going to point guns a person’s family and scream obscenities at them while they look for an unregistered rifle.

At that moment, people are not thinking about Hillary, Biden, Robert Francis, or Hogg – they are raging at the person who is giving them “commands.”


The “pro-2A” enforcers here don’t like your attitude.

I think they’re curators.


They followed orders and ran away and left “civilians” to fend for themselves on rooftops in LA.

They wore body armor and rode around in armored vehicles and while “civilians” protected the private sector in Kenosha.

They took away an elderly Louisiana woman’s old revolver when she needed it and beat her.

I really don’t care about what they like.

I’d appreciate it if they stopped patting each other on the back and changed their culture.

Last edited 1 year ago by JSNMGC

Last year they munched donuts all over the USA while dreams burned. Who gives a flying F what they like? My point is, the “pro-gun” cops here don’t give a F about 2A. They’re here to monitor, curate & psyop. AGENTS, or too F’ng stupid or cowardly to know or admit they’re working for AGENTS.


Some are agents.

Some believe their own lies and can’t get enough of people thanking them for their service.

Some are just old men with fading memories who are nostalgic about something that never really existed, and they can’t reconcile those beliefs with the reality here today, or what has happened in other places at other times.


They have been exceptionally tolerant so far:


As it should be. Carry on, carry often and carry absolutely everywhere.
Wish I had come up with that but Mark Walters at AAR gets all the credit.


Yes, the Americans (of Korean ancestry) who were on the rooftops can explain why “civilians” need to be armed.


Fortunately it is up to us. Unfortunately it is up to all of us.

As long as antis and what Rob labels idealists outnumber dedicated realists, it will be difficult to take the actions required.


“Even the smallest flea will drive the largest dog nuts!”

Last edited 1 year ago by USMC0351Grunt

Haven’t heard that expression in a long time. Had completely forgotten it – but having dogs, I recognize the literal truth as well as the broader meaning.

Wild Bill

I am always favorable impressed when authors make the effort to get back to readers. Very nice of you Mr. Morse. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Rifle.


Thank you for the article, Rob. You bring up the ultimate important question on the table: our kids’ lives. After facing many school shooting cases I have researched, I came to the same conclusion; we have to look straight to the reality in the eye and dont let these monsters unnoticed.


p.s: we have to make it happen somehow. It should not only words, but actions executed also. I provide mainly law essay writing service help to students ( I would research more into this issue and brainstorm ideas on how to contribute to the solution globally. Sorry if I seem to be sentimental.

Last edited 11 months ago by DonaldGilmore

Thank you for the article, Rob. You bring up the ultimate important question on the table: our kid’s life. After facing many school shooting cases I have researched, I came to the same conclusion; we have to look straight to the reality in the eye and these monsters to be unnoticed.

Last edited 11 months ago by DonaldGilmore

I proposed that we send our kids to school wearing bullet proof vest. I figured if its good for the cops, its good for the kids. Boy, the looks and comments i got from the school staff and other parents! Its like they really don’t care. I say this is good measure until we can figure a better way to save our kids. I’ll be honest, I send mine with ballistic panels inside their backpacks and we do plenty of training and drills. I made sure mine know of escape routes like going out of a window to parqour themselves… Read more »