Without Gaslighting and Projection, Gun Prohibitionists Have Nothing

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U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Down the barrel of a gun,” a USA Today headline begins. “How Second Amendment activism can be a gateway to extremist ideologies.”

Collectors buy militaria at gun shows. Some of it is Nazi memorabilia. What better way to conflate patriots who believe in the government of limited enumeration of powers established “to secure the Blessings of Liberty” with “the extremist far-right”?

To emphasize the point, they call on a former “leader of the National Socialist Movement,” apparently oblivious to the reality that being a national socialist has nothing to do with what the freedom-minded are about. And as much as latter-day collectivists try to distance themselves and project their hatred onto those who emphasize the rights of individuals over the powers of a centralized violence monopoly, they can only ignore and misdirect from the truth, they cannot obliterate it.

UK Liberal Party supporter George Watson definitively debunked those in his landmark Hitler and the Socialist Dream, documenting:

“It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too.”

The attack piece goes on to use Alinsky Rule 5 ridicule and dismiss as unfounded “the fear that the government is intent on taking Americans’ guns away,” conveniently not exploring, let alone even mentioning, the numerous and publicized calls from prominent gun-grabbers to do just that (and don’t tell us, moron, tell Beto). It also fails to inform readers that the cited “authority” for making that claim, described merely as “an activist who has tracked white supremacists since the 1990s,” is also known as “the father” of doxing.

But the point is made. Second Amendment activists have been linked with Nazis and white supremacists, just like Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, “leading” Democrats, and the DSM, all of whom echo and amplify a self-serving “greatest threat” meme, want.

That’s what USA Today and other Gannett Publication holdings do, from “outing” gun owners to teaming with Michael Bloomberg’s anti-gun “media project,” to calling for the repeal of the Second Amendment, declaring the National Rifle Association a terrorist organization, and for prying their guns from the “cold dead hands” of NRA members.

Equally shameful, and many still don’t realize this (and so treat it as an impartial chronicler of factual, data-based conclusions), is Scientific American.

“Citizen Militias in the U.S. Are Moving toward More Violent Extremism,” a hit piece in the January issue proclaims. Why such groups give such writers the time of day, like they’ll get a fair shake as opposed to made to look like dangerous, racist paranoids, is something I don’t get. It’s not like the target readership will be persuaded to reconsider its biases, and these things always seem to end up more like a Borat bit than anything else.

This time out we find that even if you present yourself as otherwise peaceful and tolerant, longing for the good old days is racist because discrimination existed. Well, we do note that we didn’t have so many school shootings, abortions, fatherless and broken homes, drug overdoses, encampments under bridges, poop on the sidewalk, and the like, but of course, unacceptable race-based inequality existed, and no rational person argues otherwise. In fact, it is Second Amendment advocates who have been at the forefront – for decades –  of documenting and sharing “the racist roots of gun control” and encouraging minorities to discover and then claim their fundamental right to keep and bear arms.

But here’s where this is going:

“Members of militias, in my analysis, show what sociologists call ‘modern racism,’ where they endorse ideas of cultural inferiority rather than biological deficiency.”

“Modern racism.” Where have we seen definitions reframed for political purposes before, aside from everywhere and for a long time? Or as Orwell noted:

“The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect.”

So now you’re a racist if you observe some cultures have proven better at creating conditions for the freedom and advancement of all human beings than others? Where are all the “refugees” heading to and why?

And while “our side” is advancing the unalienable right of all peaceable people to keep and bear arms, “theirs” is the one demanding that any but their enforcement functionaries be disarmed. The centralized government cultists are the ones floating special rules to disarm minorities and attacking any who dare deviate from the narrative. And they further endanger the most at-risk communities.

To be a “progressive” means you demand more control and the destruction of anyone who wants less. They do that by smearing anyone who is not on board with that as a domestic extremist and supremacist, whether they be a gun owner, a Republican, or just plain white.

What a steaming load. And we’re the haters?

They’re counting on most being too intimidated to fight back lest they be singled out for “cancellation.” I propose instead to point and laugh at their impotent rage, triggered more than anything by a solemn vow a critical mass of us have made to ourselves, to those we love and protect, and especially to the hive-minded who think it ultimately depends on how many traitors they can get elected:

WE WILL NOT DISARM.”

And there’s not a damn thing they can do about it without bringing it all down upon their own heads. Unless we let them.


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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Henry Bowman

Citizen constitutional militias are not the problem, the Left are. They want to disarm everyone because their agenda involves actions that they would get them shot.

JSNMGC

Aren’t 92% of them going to be dead by next month and another 5 or 6% dead before the end of June?

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/10/07/92-of-active-duty-troops-have-been-vaccinated-mandatory-deadline-nears.html

[I’m just foolin’ about.]

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JSNMGC

Mask, shield . . . looks bad.

Trust the military.

Lloyd was were the action was. He’s got collar brass, medals, . . . all sorts of stuff:

https://nationalfile.com/def-sec-austin-infected-covid-despite-triple-vax-injections-face-mask-shield-use/

DDS

Let me just drop one in to give y’all something new to consider. A family friend is a Trump hating, Biden/Obama/Clinton supporter. He and I frequently get into “discussions” about Democrats and gun control. Volume goes up. Temperature goes up. Blood pressure goes up. Neither of us changes his opinion a gnat’s ass worth. Rinse and repeat just about every time he visits. Then one time he said something that made me pause to think. He said something along the lines of, “Marijuana has been illegal since before I was born. Yet I’ve been smoking it all of my life.… Read more »

Wild Bill

Wow, interesting.

Finnky

Always best to let undesirable play the role of cannon fodder. Those who come in to sweep up and finish things off will (1) survive in higher numbers and (2) have at least as much say in how things come back together.

aka – letting your enemies fight each other leaves less work for you.

Russn8r

Republicans worshiped authority far too long. Now that many Rs are waking up to the constitutionally suicidal mistake it was to ignore Ike’s farewell speech and install & constantly expand a Military-“Security”-Spy-Police-Prison-Science-“Healthcare”-Insurance-Big Tech-Social Media-Taxation-Welfare Industrial Complex — the Commie-Dems have jumped on board and are using against us the suicidally stupid apparatus glazy-eyed “Rs” & Neo”cons” installed, to destroy the USA and our liberty.

Russn8r

To be fair, deluge-immigration / 1-way “free trade” / hands-off Big Tech/Social Media LoLibertarians are no better.

RINOs & “Libertarians” are traitors in our own tent. Far more destructive than the honest commie-lib enemy outside.

Oldman

?? Talking to yourself, again? It appears ;your paranoia has got the better of you… or worse

CaptainKerosene

The USA began about 1765. Prior to that the whole world l d was based on slavery in one for or anther. Every culture enslaved the conquered and even their own kind. Freedom in America (continent) prompted King George to invade Boston in 1768. 1773 the tea and stamp act ( not postage but all paper) was peacefully protested. 1775 and gun confiscation at Concord & Lexington began the revolution. Patrick Henry spoke hours about the need to fight but all they teach is the closing “Give me liberty or give me death.” There is more, too much for here.… Read more »

Wild Bill

You might be a little early on that when the USA began date, but as to the rest … Ok.

hippybiker

Right you are, Sir! Most people don’t understand or, are brainwashed into believing only Blacks were Slaves! All races were victims of Slavery!
please read the book “They Were White and They Were Slaves.” By Michael Hoffman ll.
Also. The largest Slave market in America was in Providence Rhode Island, and the first Slaves imported into the Americas in 1619 were Whites. Mostly young women and children!
The miscreants pushing the CRT lie don’t want you or anyone else to know the truth! Do some research!

Finnky

My understanding is those “white slaves” were actually indentured servants, who only had to survive a defined term on indenture to regain their freedom. Difference from being a black slave was (1) having willingly entered the contract (often as only alternative to death or imprisonment) (2) having a set end-point (3) servitude did not span generations. Also (4) masters did not care about indentured servants survival as they did for their property (slaves) – mortality was far higher among the indentured then it ever was among slaves. In fact the vast majority of indentured servants did not live through their… Read more »

Wild Bill

Many, many children were sold into indentured servitude by their parents, who kept the money and had one less mouth to feed. Many indentured children did not live to see freedom, thus they were indentured for the rest of their lives. A guy has to wonder what kind of people would do that to a child, especially their own child.

Laddyboy

@WB; If you want to know, as muslems that SELL their children. They have done this for CENTURIES. Some do it for the lack of food! It IS REPREHENSIBLE to sell you children into indentured/slavery/marriage/USAGE of females AND males!

Wild Bill

I did not know that. That is why I like this site … there are lots of folks that know lots of stuff.

CaptainKerosene

The Germans and British had arranged marriages ( sell kids ) to end war.

Finnky

In case you see parallels between this and my comment regarding reasons for 18th century parents selling their children into indentured service — times have changed.

While life in certain parts of the world bears a striking resemblance to the stone age, technology exists even there – including communications offering a glimpse of what the world has become. Only reasons for selling children in this day and age are tradition and selfish-amoral-stupidity. Of course tradition is only an excuse.

Finnky

My understanding of the times was that they had absolutely no birth control other than abstinence, and little to no knowledge/ability to use rhyme methods. If your entire family is on verge of starvation – you, the missus and all your eight children, it is easy to believe that someone with limited knowledge could think their child would be better off in servitude. Remember also that Britain had a long tradition of lower classes essentially being serfs to the higher classes. Being less than slaves made them disposable – often to point of discarding people to free up resources. To… Read more »

DDS

The borderlands between Scotland and England were trampled underfoot by armed forces from both sides and neither side for so long that it became quite difficult to make an honest living for the people who lived there. One result was the number of Scots who ended up in debtors prison, more for being in the wrong place at the wrong time politically and militarily than economically. Because Georgia Colony was so close to Spanish Florida and the port and fortress at St. Augustine, the colony’s charter forbid the use of African slaves as too big a risk of slave revolt… Read more »

Wild Bill

Pretty cool!!

JSNMGC

“We will not disarm.” Most posters here agree with that statement. The statement implies there will be laws prohibiting the ownership of firearms and people will choose not to follow those laws. It’s interesting to note how many of the same people who agree with that sentiment disparage others with “gun charges against” them. Why do so many who believe they are “pro 2nd Amendment” criticize others for not following existing unconstitutional firearm laws? Why do so many who believe they are “pro 2nd Amendment” cheer-on enforcers as they enforce existing unconstitutional firearm laws? Why do so many who believe they are… Read more »

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Knute Knute

<Hand up>
Ooh, I know! Is it because they suffer from the same mental disorders that the article mentions? Projecting their own insanity off unto others, Gaslighting anyone who notices their cognitive dissonance as either crazy or criminal, and so forth?

JSNMGC

Maybe.

Some may never have given it much thought and therefore they don’t even try to reconcile three things they believe in:

  • Firearm laws are bad;
  • Violent criminals are bad;
  • Law enforcement is good.

If:

  • Firearm laws are bad; and
  • A non-violent person (let’s say a U.S. citizen who pays a lot of taxes and never violates any laws other than occasionally driving slightly above the speed limit) decides not to follow never-ending firearm control laws; and
  • An enforcer ruins that firearm owner’s life by arresting him for violating some unconscionable firearm law;

Then:

  • Is the enforcer really good?
Henry Bowman

Short answer is NO. Violating the Oath that all cops take when they’re commissioned is the epitome of a Jack-Booted Thug (JBT). Violating people’s (gun) rights under color of law is a felony at 18 U.S. Code § 242.Tyranny can only come to your door wearing a badge & uniform.

JSNMGC

There are a lot of people here who disagree with you and me. When they are handcuffed in the back seat of a squad car they are going to be telling the enforcers “I realize it’s just part of your job – no hard feelings.” When they are convicted of a felony, have to sell everything they own to pay lawyers and fines, spend 10 years in a prison, and come out with a felony record and are unemployable, they will say “I realize it was a police officer who arrested me and if it wasn’t for him I would… Read more »

swmft

yea it looks like they are giving US the [email protected] off

swmft

then we have “qualified” immunity , so the law that is to keep them in line does not apply to them another wtf judges and prosecutors commit fraud cant be charged system has built in corruption protected by the laws they have made to circumvent title 18

swmft

enforcing a violation of a law that violates title 18 ,which gives teeth to bill of rights IS a criminal offense ,but leos will not arrest their own and the answer to your question is if you enforce a law in violation of a constitutional edict you are a criminal

musicman44mag

I have been thinking about how to answer your question. The answer is that law enforcement does more for us than just go about their day looking to enforce illegal gun laws. They help people get out of burning cars endangering their own lives, they hunt down killers, they sometimes keep the peace when our government lets them, they solve murders getting justice for the family of those that lost a loved one, they find robbers but usually the ones that rob banks, they stop car thefts, or car jackings if they can, they bust illegal drug manufactures and drug… Read more »

JSNMGC

You used “we” frequently in your post. Please note that you and I are in different groups. When I use “we,” I do not include you. That’s not an attack – just a statement of fact. I am an advocate of free civilization and I believe in different policies than you. “So you can’t hate all cops or accuse them all of the same thing when they all have different rules and laws to follow and they do not make the laws.” I don’t hate cops – I do not support enforcers who will enforce never-ending gun control laws and… Read more »

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musicman44mag

Ok, When I said we, I meant we as a people and being a free people that gives you a chance to back out if you want and you clearly did. As far as your last three bullets are concerned, the answer is no to all three and no, I do not take our debates as insults either way they are exactly what they are, a sharing of ideas and beliefs however I do apologize if I in any way offended you and I acknowledge that I know we are not exactly the same. Sorry if I assumed too much.… Read more »

JSNMGC

I’m not offended at all – just wanted to clarify that I am not in your group. “As far as your last three bullets are concerned, the answer is no to all three” But you indicated you support enforcers and they enforce all three categories. There are laws in Oregon governimg features on semiautomatic rifles and Oregon enforcers enforce those laws, but you said “we” can’t turn our back on the enforcers because that’s just part of their job. I do live in Wyoming. The Democrats do not have much control or power in the state of Wyoming. It’s the… Read more »

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musicman44mag

Man, So you have a bunch of RINO there. That sucks and it was your own people, that’s even worse. As far as the three bullets, as far as I know there are no laws saying that we have to comply with certain features on our AR rifles. Law enforcement does follow federal regulation regarding silencers and SBR if that is what you are talking about? As far as bullet 2 and 3 that is not happening and I would not support either. Yes, I know what you mean, I support the second amendment, BUT. We have those too and… Read more »

JSNMGC

If most Republican politicians are “RINOs,” are they really “RINOs?” Or, does the Republican party, generally speaking, support never-ending gun control, people illegally entering and living in the U.S., constantly growing government, and high taxes? Yes, there are laws that are enforceable in all 50 states that regulate how large and how loud a firearm can be. If someone were to take an AR15 in .300 BLK with a 9″ barrel and an excellent suppressor and fire subsonic ammunition at a public range in Oregon and start loudly declaring he doesn’t comply with federal laws, it’s only a matter of… Read more »

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musicman44mag

I know what you mean about do the republicans really want gun control too. I think it is their best tool for getting votes just like wanting gun control is one of the best tools for getting votes by the left. The people might be getting played by both sides. The red flag laws that they back kind of tell me that some are lying to me. You can’t find a gun store that wants to handle person to person transfers and our law enforcement says they are not going to enforce it.

JSNMGC

Republican politicians who consistently act in a manner in accordance with policy that is considered “Republican,” are a minority. There are tens of thousands of gun laws in the U.S. that have been enforced for decades. I do not support those who enforce them (even if they pulled someone out of a burning car 20 years ago). Many Oregon enforcers may not enforce Oregon UBC laws against most people. Many Oregon enforcers will absolutely enforce Oregon UBC laws against people they don’t like or who “give them lip.” Almost all Oregon enforcers will follow orders to enforce Oregon UBC laws… Read more »

JSNMGC

Reply on hold.

If you go back and read your post beginning with “I’ve been thinking . . .” you will see why we are in different groups.

musicman44mag

Well, you are not alone, I have one pending too now and it was not to you. Do you think that we have a limit on how much conversation we are allowed to have?

musicman44mag

We may be of different groups but there is more than one way to skin a cat and multiple angles can work together without even knowing each other’s existence.

JSNMGC

Politics is not like a piece of paper with two sides – it is a dodecahedron. You and I are on adjoining sides, not opposite.

Russn8r

That’s a meaningless blurb. Republican should have an honest meaning.

JSNMGC

Which?

Stag

I’ve been saying for years that the “real RHINOs” are the very few in government who actually fight for our constitutional rights and I say it with with the utmost respect. The Republican Party sure as hell doesn’t care about our rights and the vast majority of Republicans don’t, either. They prove it every time they have complete control of government by continuing to grow government and not repealing arms laws. Occasionally there is some relief on the state level but even that is half hearted and only done to give crumbs to the masses so they can get your… Read more »

JSNMGC

The RINO discussion gets old. As you wrote, the vast majority will continue to push never-ending gun control and grow the government (size, scope, invasiveness, and cost).

Russn8r

It only gets old because if you think Republican shouldn’t mean anything.

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JSNMGC

That’s not what I think.

I think Repubican policy should include, among other things:

  • Less gun control laws, not more;
  • Enforcing visas, eliminating birthright citizenship, enforcing laws prohibiting people from other countries illegally working in the U.S.; and
  • Smaller, better, less intrustive, and less expensive government and lower taxes.

Because so few Republican politicians actually drive that agenda, I’ve concluded that Republican policy doesn’t mean what I think it should mean.

Russn8r

RINOs are those who don’t back the policies you enumerated, those who back 1-Way “free trade” with no tariffs, those who back the “freedom” of corporations to do whatever the Pfuck they want including monopoly seeking, acting on behalf of government to suppress freedom of expression and association, and so forth.

JSNMGC

“RINOs are those who don’t back the policies you enumerated, those who back 1-Way “free trade” with no tariffs, those who back the “freedom” of corporations to do whatever the Pfuck they want including monopoly seeking, acting on behalf of government to suppress freedom of expression and association, and so forth.” Yes, but when a significant majority of Republican politicians don’t support the items I listed, it appears as though those items really aren’t what it means to be a Republican politician, therefore, the people who don’t support those positions aren’t really “RINOs,” they are mainstream republicans. The people who… Read more »

Russn8r

That’s like saying if a significant majority of politicians defecate on the oath of office daily, they’re not really traitors. They’re RINOs.

JSNMGC

Wyoming Republicans outnumber Democrats in the state House 51 to 7. You would think the policies I stated would be easy to implement/maintain. They are not – many of those 51 Republicans require constant pushing to do the right thing. About a dozen of them frequently do the wrong thing even with a lot of pushing. https://ballotpedia.org/Wyoming_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2022 The Republican brand is so weak I no longer support it. I support individuals who have a lot of overlap with the policies I support. Many people here (not you) act like Democrats are the only problem. In Wyoming, they are almost insignificant.… Read more »

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Stag

We have the same problem in Texas no matter how much some on here might like to pretend otherwise. Republicans have had complete control for decades and we still can’t get them to pass true constitutional carry, repeal arms laws, repeal gun free zones, or eliminate property tax which is among the highest in the nation. Governor Hot Wheels was all about lockdowns, mask mandates, and closing businesses in 2020. They like to talk a big game to get votes and then pass meaningless legislation that, if we’re lucky, gives a little crumb of freedom back to us. Unfortunately, it… Read more »

JSNMGC

I’m sure you could use some help from the “I live in Texas, so I don’t have to be politically active” crowd. We have the same issue here: “We don’t have any gun laws – why do you keep wanting me to go to your meetings?”

Thanks for all your efforts.

Maybe if you get some help, you can get Cruz to straighten-up and replace Cornyn.

Stag

Looks like I got downvoted by at least 2 of them. It’s amazing how you can state easily verifiable facts and people will still be like, “Nuh uh!”. Those downvoters are the reason why we have so many arms laws.

JSNMGC

It’s not about facts and logic (I know you know that). They are just mad.

Russn8r
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Russn8r

Dems are not only not the only the problem, they’re not the biggest. The biggest problem is the corrupt traitor in our own tent. RINOs & LoLibertarians.

Even if 49 of 50 legislators defecate on the Constitution daily, those 49 are still traitors. The word traitor still has meaning and the Constitution still means what it does.

There is no hope for the D party. The only hope is the R party. RINO Delenda Est.

musicman44mag

I think it is like a disease and it has infested every state. I think the best thing would be for us to give anyone who wants to run for what ever 1 million dollars and say, here it is, we will be monitoring your adds and flyers and articles and you need to file a report showing every dime that you spent. If we see too many adds you are disqualified. All adds will have a set price that all newspapers and media outlets will be required to follow. And then the Piece de resistance is no lobbying money… Read more »

musicman44mag

waiting for response. No cuss words no call to arms, nothing like that of the sort. Just like always.

swmft

problem is the ones that do not keep their oath ,if the law is in conflict with constitution it is void the 1934 gun control act the 1968 act all violate the 2nd and if you read the federalist papers every one who is able bodied and of sound mind should be armed. the miller ruling said type protected are the type useful to a militia .the fact no one pointed out short barreled shotguns are what the army used in trench warfare, and street sweepers large capacity simi auto do I think they should be used for hunting no… Read more »

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swmft

first drop fire arms from the last line and I am with you because the violations are far more than that, civil forfeiture please no proof of wrong , police have become the highwaymen of yore. the fbi stealing from peoples safety deposit boxes 14th amendment 4th amendment take a choice robbed at gunpoint with a kid in a hoodie or robbed at gunpoint with a jacket and badge and gun

Wild Bill

There is a terrific book that brings the terror and unjustness of civil asset forfeiture to the attention of the American people. It is entitled, ” The Tyranny of Good Intentions.” by Paul Roberts and Lawrence Stratton. Very cheap at Thrift Books.

JSNMGC

Thanks, I’ll buy it.

Those intentions would just be bad ideas, if . . .

Arizona

All laws that purport to regulate, control, restrict, limit, tax or otherwise infringe on the possession, ownership, building, manufacturing, selling, buying and bearing of arms are unconstitutional, infringe on an enumerated natural right, and have no legal authority. They presume authority which was specifically denied to the government.

JSNMGC

Yeah, but people with badges, radios, and guns enforce those laws and people who do not follow those laws frequently pay a harsh price (unless they are friends with enforcers, prosecutors, judges, or the right politicians).

“For my friends, anything is possible. For my enemies, it’s the law.” ~ Brazilian joke among the connected and corrupt.

JSNMGC

Being right is highly overrated. It’s frequently painful.

USMC0351Grunt

That only works when the intimidated sheeple WAVE THEIR RIGHTS to whatever… Or run their mouth when they get arrested and tip their defense and grounds for counter-suing the law enforcement agency and jurisdiction for a slew of laws THEY had broken to detain and accost you.

JSNMGC

No – it works in most cases no matter what the victim does.

You have a proclivity for blaming the victim.

The problem is laws and people willing to enforce the laws, not the victims.

Go violate the laws Arizona referred to and you will get beat, cuffed, stuffed, prosecuted, and incarcerated.

The enforcers will go out for beers afterward and laugh about the incident.

Now, re-tell your story about your case. It didn’t involve many of the issues discussed here and it’s not the norm.

JSNMGC

This site is not a firearm rights site, it is a statist site. The recurring theme is: “politicians can’t do what they are doing because it’s unconstitutional so if they do it to you, you are one of the ‘sheeple.’ People who received a paycheck from the DoD a half century ago are the only ones brave enough to fight. I walk around the Texas desert open carrying where no one can see me – the only reason people don’t do that in Chicago is because they are cowards.” Then they go on to complain about capitalism and beg for… Read more »

Wild Bill

Well, go ahead on and lead by example.

JSNMGC

I do – through legislative action and ostracism of enforcers who enforce unconstitutional laws.

I don’t pretend that one of the many pro 2nd Amendment people who live, work, or go to school in Chicago could defy unconstitutional laws and triumph. Chicago enforcers (many of whom used to be in the military) would (best case), beat, cuff, stuff, and jail them. They would go out for beers afterward and laugh about the incident.

The problem isn’t the victims – the problem is the laws and the people who enforce them.

Wild Bill

I did not know that you are a legislator.

JSNMGC

You don’t need to be a legislator to be involved in legislative action.

Thanks for confirming you are not involved.

Go back to telling war stories and discussing TV shows from the 50s and 60s.

Water frozen today?

Wild Bill

No need for insults. What do you do involving legislative action?

JSNMGC

You hurl them. I don’t play by your one-way “rules” you persist in attempting to implement. You referred to me as a raging asshole among other things. I started off civil with you and started pushing back after you became uncivil after I wrote things that are inconsistent with statist doctrine. To answer your question, I described recent events in a post below to Patriot Solutions: interviewing candidates for a U.S. Representative position and then discussing what I learned with voters. While I interviewed the candidates, I argued for no more gun control, smaller government, and lower taxes. I discussed… Read more »

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Wild Bill

I don’t recall that epithet. Are you sure?
You paid for a debate? Impressive. Between which candidates?
As to what have I done, well … I don’t want to tell any war stories, but the Army did send me to college and law school, they would not let me attend any protests or rallies, however.

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JSNMGC

Yes – positive. You used the abbreviation “ah.” It was a comment in the discussion of the same article in which you explained how you were going to ambush “our” (not sure if that was the “royal our” or if you were referring to other people) enemies and take their heavy weapons: https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/uk-paper-and-u-s-prohibitionists-stage-meltdown-over-massie-christmas-card/#axzz7H1RxM9cz Yes, I paid all the costs associated with the venue, advertising, refreshments, etc. I did the same thing for public Q&A meetings with state representatives. Stop your attempts at doxing. You have been retired from the military for some time, haven’t you? Is there anything that prohibits… Read more »

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Wild Bill

Well ah would not be the abbreviation for raging asshole. I use ah a lot in the manner of a pause in speech (e.g. “ah, maybe!” or perhaps ahhh … ). Ahh … well, you asked what I had done. You opened the door. You are stuck with the answer that you get. Regarding political activism, the USArmy does not let its soldiers do that. Now, that I am, ah, retired, you know, of course that I live in East Texas. East Texas is very, squared away with about the Second Amendment. There is no call for political activists. In… Read more »

JSNMGC

You’re something else. You first claim you don’t remember writing it and then I provide you the link to what you wrote and you still try to crawfish out of what you said. Here’s the quote (anyone can see the comment in the thread I linked to): “Several of those raging ah have found their way to ammoland and are my fan club! Thank you for your service, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Rifle to you and yours.” That was not “ahhh” – it was “asshole.” Not all lawyers are snakes. You use your Army experience and your Texas… Read more »

Wild Bill

I don’t see a specific reference to you. Why would you think that it was referring to you? You are too hard on yourself.

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JSNMGC

Keep throwing stuff against the wall – you never know what might stick.

You have a pattern of changing course once your initial assertion is shot down.

Who are the raging assholes in your fan club?

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Russn8r

What a passive-aggressive tuuuat.

Wild Bill

My reply has been hijacked by Ammoland. You will just have to wait.

Russn8r

“I don’t recall calling you a raging asshole etc.”
How coy. Not nice.

JSNMGC

“’I don’t recall calling you a raging asshole etc.’
How coy. Not nice.”

He forgets things and doesn’t see things that don’t support his narrative. He also doesn’t like things quoted when the person being quoted (who he white knights for) deletes his posts.

Russn8r

He doesn’t Pforget Ph-ck all. Dude’s a smarmy, snippy qu ‘ nt who uses effeminate passive-aggressive Leftist tactics.

JSNMGC

I gave him numerous chances.

He has no desire to just discuss “gun rights” and he is not a gun rights activist in any sense.

He just comes here to droll on about his military experience, his education, the fact that he is a lawyer, and odd, random nostalgic tidbits.

He supports the very people who will enforce any future law infringing on gun rights.

Russn8r

The b! tch is down voting you right now with his sock puppets.

JSNMGC

One of the guys I hunt and shoot with (haven’t been able to get him into the flyfishing, snowshoeing, skiing, and rock climbing groups) was in the 10th Mountain Division (Afghanistan, 2002 – 2003) just laughs when I relay Ammoland encounters. His view: many of the guys who won’t shut-up about their service did the least. He also said anyone over the rank of Captain is a politician. He didn’t have one kind word to say about military lawyers or women in the military.

Russn8r

Snippy, snippy.

JSNMGC

They just talk. I’ve interviewed (one on one) three of the candidates running against Liz Cheney and then met with voters to discuss what I learned during the interviews. BTW, of the three, the worst was the retired Army Colonel – he has no clue what the 2nd Amendment was intended to do or the issues underlying the main gun control laws being pushed. He thinks people should vote for him because of the “leadership” he developed while in the Army. The latest “news” on his website is from September when he announced he is still in the running –… Read more »

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JSNMGC

They won’t change and they enable enforcers.

They have no understanding of, or appreciation for, people who live in other areas where they are outvoted.

Russn8r

How’s the Trump-nominated one? I donated to Bouchard, but he seems like a dunce if he thought that Florida crap would never catch up to him.

JSNMGC

Hageman is a lawyer who works for a firm that does a lot of work pushing back against government overreach. Most of her effort has been related to land use. She has stated she wants smaller, better government and I have no reason to doubt her. She is fairly up to speed on many of the 2nd Amendment issues (much more so than Knapp – he’s a fool). She was the National Committeewoman for the Wyoming Republican Party for a short time. She did nothing when contacted before the 2020 elections to get word to Trump to order the BATFE… Read more »

Larry

(I’m sorry, somehow this comment got attached to the wrong article. I’m reposting it on the proper article.)

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JSNMGC

People place a lot of weight on what party someone belongs to, what state they live in, what state they were born in, what they do/used to do for a living, whether they hunt, what year they were born in, and to what religion they belong.

They shouldn’t.

JSNMGC

I was referring to the white, male, Republican, born in a “red” state, living in a red state, former military, former law enforcement, Christian, hunters who were born before 1965 who want state/county/city/town enforcers to be able to legally cooperate with federal law enforcers to enforce any and all future gun control laws (they also want to increase taxes).

I sort people based on the policy they support.

JSNMGC

Cheers.

JSNMGC

2005 Clos de Vougeot by Ardhuy will be opened here when dinner time comes around.

It will be interesting to see where the vaccine mandates go. I predict a lot more small businesses in the future as more people follow the path of John Galt and develop a parallel economy. It’s not that government employees won’t be allowed to participate, it’s just that people who have never suckled on the government teat (oblivious that non-government employees continuously refill the udder) will be given preference points.

CaptainKerosene

To clarify.
Europeans and Brita in North American were happy with condition from 1619-1620 for 100 years.
But 3,000 miles of ocean and the taxes and rules changed American attides.
It was illegal to make steel or iron shovels. It was illegal to make a lock mechanism ( had to import)
That generated a desire for freedom. That got the British Army to occupy BOSTON in 1768. That set the chain to the Revolution.

Steve

Here is my analogy to make it simple to even the most simple-minded of anti-2A-ers.

All thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs.

In this case the anti-2A-ers are attempting to tell us that all thumbs (neo-Nazis) are fingers (that all Pro-2A-ers are neo-Nazis).