Georgia: Committees Advance Constitutional Carry

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Today, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed House Bill 1358 as a committee substitute with language from Senate Bill 319. IMG NRA-ILA

U.S.A. -(AmmoLand.com)- Today, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed House Bill 1358 as a committee substitute with language from Senate Bill 319. Then, the House Judiciary Committee passed Senate Bill 319 as a committee substitute with language from House Bill 1358. They will now go to the chamber floors for further consideration.

Constitutional carry allows a law-abiding adult who is legally allowed to carry a concealed firearm, to do so without first having to obtain government permission. This ensures that citizens have the right to self-defense without government red tape or delays. Additionally, this legislation maintains the existing concealed handgun license system, so citizens who still wish to obtain a permit may do so.

Currently, there are 24 states that already have constitutional carry. Of those, Alabama, Ohio, and Indiana joined that list just this year. Governor Brian Kemp has stated his support for constitutional carry, so the General Assembly just has to send a bill to his desk.

Please stay tuned to www.nraila.org and your email inbox for further updates.


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Wild Bill

Imagine that russ has become a grammar Nazi, with his mouth … whoda thunk it.

Wild Bill

He takes offense at nearly everything. The problem is in his mind.

Wild Bill

Sounds like an interesting project. Be safe.

Wild Bill

Sounds like a challenging and busy day. Things here were a little more mundane.
My wife was after me to make some waterers for her rose bushes, three in all. She had all kinds of elaborate plans. Nag, nag, nag!

So, I stacked three plastic five gallon buckets, one inside the next, and shot a .38 wadcutter into the bottom, along the periphery. It took .7 seconds and worked perfectly. I told her that I am going to patent it. Then, … I cleaned the horse barn.

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Russn8r

My bad. Must’ve learned it from the prissiest grammarian troll on Ammoland:

“I don’t think that you should be calling people stupid when you spell Alaskans with an apostrophe and use “to” rather than” too”. -Wild Bill

Wild Bill

You say that you have learned. Well, that is something anyway.

Russn8r

What’s up, troll? Hypocrisy much?

Oldman

Nothin’ new there…or is it their? Only Superman would know.

Oldman

I am well aware…….Just egging him on for the fun of it. Believe me, Bill and I have been trying for months to ignore him, but it is hard to do and I know I am not purrfect like superior Supe is. Let’s see is that two u’s or just one?

Wild Bill

Oh, at least … two! Ha.

Wild Bill

Yes, he has nothing enlightening, but rather only wants to spew perverse and squalid obscenities at someone … anyone.

Russn8r

More stalker-troll hypocrisy. Your socks are masters of thug-posting, projectile obscenity & insults. Oldman & TEX-Will-FordWill-Jesse, latest incarnation as “Bruce” before Ammoland gives that alias the smackdown too.

Pathetic how you live here with your sad little gang of would-be cancelers. You need to do virtual laundry. I can smell your socks a mile upwind and I’m only part Indian.

Russn8r

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sure thing, TEX!

Wild Bill

You are no Hondo Lane, those are your socks that need virtual laundering.

Russn8r

Sure thing, Sheriff.

john

There might be a democrat as governor “Maham”

john

Florida is turning into New York

Russn8r

Hardly. Despite by far the most folks moving in of any state, Florida just went majority R registration under DeSantis, first time ever.

Russn8r

Sure TEX. That’s why FL just went majority R, 1st time ever. Enjoy eating crow when DeSantis signs CC.

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Russn8r

Less a Powerhouse Than a Parasite
What happened to the NRA?
J.D. TUCCILLE | April 2022 edition of Reason Magazine
https://reason.com/2022/03/27/less-a-powerhouse-than-a-parasite

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john

If Mr Kemp wants to be reelected he had better make sure this goes all the way across the finish line. Democrats in Georgia grow more corrupt every day while Rino Georgia Republicans are no better and can never be trusted. The Georgia Senate on Thursday approved legislation that would prohibit companies owned by the Chinese government to bid on state contracts.Senate Bill 346 passed 32-20 on a nearly party-line vote, with Atlanta state Sen. Jen Jordan being the only Democrat to support the measure. “Americans in the Peach State are impacted by the concern of the technology theft that goes… Read more »

Russn8r

Now you’re sucking up to Gov. Kemp, who helped Dems steal the White House & both of Georgia’s US Senate seats. You’re a real piece of work. BTW, genius, it’s their Gov, not there Gov.

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john

Would love to hear from those with a different point of view those who disagree with others please step up. Post your views Please take a stand for your beliefs. We can all agree to disagree politely Speak you mind comments are open to everyone. Up and down votes mean little without taken a stand for your opinions Let’s exchange view points openly
God Bless

Stag

“Constitutional carry allows a law-abiding adult who is legally allowed to carry a concealed firearm, to do so without first having to obtain government permission.”

No, that’s not how rights work. Why am I not surprised the NRA doesn’t understand this? The constitution doesn’t “allow” me to do anything. I already have that right.

Jeff Knox

Exactly! Our side must stop using lazy language that reinforces the opposition’s lies. The only place the word “allow” is appropriate in the context of our gun rights, is when used to talk about the corruption and infringement Congress and the American people have allowed to interfere with those rights.
NRA writers should know this, and Ammoland (and all other pro-rights platform) editors should kick articles back whenever they use the word “allow” in reference to our rights, just as they should kick back articles that say the Constitution “grants” us rights.

Russn8r

Yep. No prior restraint.

Stag

Absolutely. I also see a lot of lazy language concerning permitless carry in these articles. People seem to be under the impression that it’s the same as constitutional carry. States that have passed so called “constitutional carry” legislation are still dictating who, what, when, where, and how you can carry and that is far from constitutional. It also creates a false belief in the average person’s mind that whatever infringements remain must be constitutional.

Look at all those downvotes! I guess there are a lot of people on here who believe government granted them their rights!

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Russn8r

As if the USA was infested with “gun free” zones before 1789.

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Stag

No doubt!

Jeff Knox

Why the down votes? Because you don’t like Russn8r? Because you are mad about Marion’s actions and down vote to show your disapproval? Or because you think there’s something wrong about the post?
Marion did endorse the turncoat Republican who stabbed us in the back on the Florida gun control laws. There’s a reason Florida has fallen behind in the rights war, where they were once leaders, and that reason is sitting right there in that chair.

Wild Bill

This one has disparaged and maligned so many that he, now, has a following.
If you say it about Marion, then I believe you.

Russn8r

You’re the only one here with “upvotes”. How droll, troll!

Wild Bill

That is because I am nice to people.

Russn8r

Socks aren’t people, troll.

Henry Bowman

ROFL! Neither are communists.

Russn8r

It’s harmless flack from sock puppets run by trolls.
Translation: Over the target.

Wild Bill

Shooting over the target is a miss.

Russn8r

Good afternoon, troll.

Henry Bowman

Yep, engaging the mouth before letting the brain apply the brakes… we have a winner!!

“You know you’re taking flak when you’re over the target” is the full aphorism. When THEY give you flak, it means YOU are ‘over the target’, not you aiming over.

I can explain it, but I can’t understand it for you. Drink coffee and reread it after the caffeine kicks in. That’s the best I can do to counsel you.

Wild Bill

I understand their version. And I came up with another interpretation that fits their verbiage, but is contrary to their meaning.

Russn8r

LOL, 16! Here she is grabbing her fat cat.

Russn8r

:-). H8rs gonna H8!

Russn8r

🙂

Russn8r

Hammer’s the only woman ever awarded Roy Rogers Man of the Year! Maybe that’s why Ketanji is confused.

JSNMGC

There are some posters who vote as a block against a few people and anyone who agrees with them (or in some cases, anyone who even replies to them civilly).

Some of these people control more than one account and they are here 18 hours a day, every day.

The people in this group are unconditional enforcer supporters, ex-enforcers, people who still believe the NRA is a great pro 2nd Amendment organization, and people who hold socialist views.

Stag

You nailed it. It took less than three hours for me to get 15 downvotes. I would hate to think someone’s life is so dull that they spend a large portion of their time just waiting on us to comment. JSNMGC, are you enjoying that free rent as much as I am?

JSNMGC

Yes, I am, but here’s what I enjoy even more:

  • Hiking;
  • Back packing;
  • Hunting;
  • Shooting;
  • Fly fishing,
  • Snow shoeing;
  • Skiing;
  • Ice skating;
  • Lifting; and
  • Nice dinners with nice wine.

All enjoyed with family and friends who know exactly who is going to enforce never-ending firearm laws (and it’s not Robert Francis). That’s why we began calling-out that group some time ago and encourage them to stop being the tools of tyrants before they are completely ostracized from society.

Stag

All sounds wonderful!

JSNMGC

It is, especially with like-minded people.

I come here for conflict (with people who think it’s ok to “just follow orders” to deprive their fellow countrymen of their rights and/or that more than 50% of the fruit of people’s labor should be stolen by the government and given to others).

Russn8r

The “qualified immunity” crowd is thin skinned & childish.

JSNMGC

They will never debate the topic though – they just want to keep not-so-qualified immunity with no modifications to the way it works in practice.

swmft

the ss just followed orders , Stalin’s “friends” as well look where they wound up

Henry Bowman

Yep, and these JBT’s can play by Waco Rules… But if they do, they can expect us to play by Nuremberg Rules!!!
“Just following orders” is no defense and no immunity will apply.

swmft

and rope is reusable, environmentally friendly

Oldman

Again, since you enjoy all those activities that you ‘like’, why do you spend 18 hours every day on this Site that apparently doesn’t seem to like what you have to say? You obviously ain’t no Einstein….we all get that!

JSNMGC

“Again, since you enjoy all those activities that you ‘like’, why do you spend 18 hours every day on this Site that apparently doesn’t seem to like what you have to say?” ~ Oldman

I don’t. You are lying.

“You obviously ain’t no Einstein….we all get that!” ~ Oldman

Right to the personal attack – it’s your game. You should be careful, maybe Wild Bill will chastise you for insulting another poster.

To the point made above, do you agree with Russn8r’s comment on Hammer?

Oldman

First of all, why do you ask me if I agree with your failed tag team Twin? He can answer for himself. At this point I don’t have much more to say to you. It’s ridiculous to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person..and you Sir are definitely unarmed.

Russn8r

Weak

Wild Bill

Weak minded.

JSNMGC

“First of all, why do you ask me if I agree with your failed tag team Twin?” ~ Oldman   Because before you and Wild Bill brought negativity into this thread, that was what was being discussed.   “He can answer for himself.” ~ Oldman   Is this a universal standard, because you and Wild Bill certainly don’t follow it.   “At this point I don’t have much more to say to you. It’s ridiculous to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person..and you Sir are definitely unarmed.” ~ Oldman   Another insult. Maybe Wild Bill will chastise… Read more »

Oldman

Thank You. Now bugger off, Li’l Pal.

JSNMGC

“Thank You. Now bugger off, Li’l Pal.” ~ Oldman

More vulgar attacks.

Oldman

Tag me out!

JSNMGC

“Tag me out!” ~ Oldman

There it is – the walk of shame. Just like the good old days. Bad memories, correct?

Wild Bill

They are dreary, monotonous, and dull. I can not stay.

JSNMGC

“They are dreary, monotonous, and dull. I can not stay.” ~ Wild Bill

Insults – it’s so uncivilized.

Wild Bill

You have caught him, again. There is a great gap between what he speciously professes and what he does.

Russn8r

You stalk-troll-ad hominem M.O. is childish.

JSNMGC

“You have caught him, again. There is a great gap between what he speciously professes and what he does.” ~ Wild Bill

You brought negativity into this thread.

Who was “caught” at what?

Wild Bill

You have caught him, again. There is a great gap between what he speciously professes and what he does.

Russn8r

You do exactly what you profess others do. Projection, a leftist specialty.

Wild Bill

Vomit, vomit, projection vomit.

Russn8r

Are you drunk? Good grief.

Have a nice Saturday night here with your sock pups.

Henry Bowman

On behalf of the good people here, which is NOT you,

Oldman

Dear Henry,
Thank you for your observant message. You haven’t been around here long enough, to know enough, to know better. Therefore I shall not forsake you at this point. Have a great day, friend.

Oldman

Been doin’ good Bruce. Thanks for asking. How are you doing? Yeah the two residents, as you call them, finally aggravate me enough every 2.5 to 4.5 weeks that I finally have enough and play with them. I am over it enough now and ready for more ‘normal’ conversations with pro 2nd members. Have a good one.

Henry Bowman

So… Are you saying that JSNMGC is a bad apple? Because I was weighing what he said to you on more than one occasion and he called you out for poisoning the discourse here, something I have seen myself and experienced when you attacked me personally and slanderously in another thread on another page not long ago. I am more observant than you realize, been here more than a little bit, and some things I don’t forget. Like Ricky Ricardo, I’m saying “You got some ‘splainin to do”. If what you said was mistakenly intended toward someone else and it… Read more »

Oldman

Okay…..

JSNMGC

Bruce/Jesse/TEX/Will -3/27/22:

“Oldman,how have you been doing? I saw the back and forth you were having yesterday with the two resident morons and didn’t want to interrupt. You take care and will talk to you soon.”

Reply to Bruce/Jesse/TEX/Will:

How many accounts are you running?

swmft

if the up votes that pop up on his comments of no consequence 12 or more . if that is right it is real sad. would mean he has no friends or life. I dont wish that for anyone

JSNMGC

The Bruce/Jesse/TEX/Will/et al. show is one of the funniest things I’ve seen.

He votes from numerous accounts and his protector lectures everyone about the importance of votes.

Wild Bill

OM, like most people in the world, can only take so much abuse, before replying in kind, and then going back to being genial. I’m thinking that you maybe should give him the benefit of the doubt. What do you have to lose?

Russn8r

Stalking people and calling them morons isn’t abusive at all, right, troll?

Wild Bill

He named no one. Why do you assume that you are one of the morons? He called you nothing. You seem to have volunteered.

Russn8r

How coy.

Wild Bill

How factual.

Russn8r

Any non-moron can see who they’re sniping but too cowardly to name. Are you a moron AND a stalker-troll?

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Wild Bill

No and no.

Russn8r

More like no and yes.

Wild Bill

If you propound the question, you are stuck with the affiant’s answer.

Russn8r

Wow, that’s some impressive evasion, troll.

Henry Bowman

I do not believe that I am anywhere close to abusing him. If anything, his salty and uncalled for comments towards me is the problem. I did look to give the benefit of the doubt, but like the old saying goes, ‘fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me’. In short, I let his hostility slide a couple times but it turned into a pattern, and something needed to be said. Not that he’s alone. There are one or two more on this forum who have also been unreasonable more than once, and if they’re wrong,… Read more »

Wild Bill

I can see that my writing was not clear. I did not mean that you were abusing him.
And yes, I do think that we all can get along.

swmft

dont see reloading in the list??

Russn8r

I’ve seen over 10 downvotes within 10 minutes. It’s done by stalking, trolling, and sock puppetry.

Wild Bill

It is done by insulting people and causing unnecessary, unwanted conflict.

JSNMGC

There you go again with that tired, specious argument.

You have cast many, weird, over-the-top, insults based on unfounded lies.

Russn8r is correct – Marion Hammer is blight on firearm rights.

You were the one who brought unnecessary, unwanted conflict into this thread.

Oldman

The thing that surprises me so much is that they are touting the downvotes as being done by all the stalkers, trollers and sock puppets. At our next Ammoland trollers meeting we should show, again, who gets the downvotes, and who doesn’t. I think, if you look at it and see that a very small minority of posters receive the majority of the downvotes, compared to the folks that receive no votes and positive feedback, the truth is told. I could be wrong, but highly doubt it.

Wild Bill

Most humorous, and many have come straight out and told him they hate his whining, to leave here, and to never come back. I see the down votes as short hand.

Russn8r

Projection. Your relentless stalk-troll ad hominem snark is the effeminate M.O. of thin-skinned crybaby, trying to cancel folks when you’re incapable of rational discussion of issues you want to bury. Like this below. I ain’t leaving for a pathetic bully with 20 sock pups who lives here 24-7 for his own phony upvotes. You leave.

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Wild Bill

You just vomit up every provocation that you think might anger an opponent.

Russn8r

That’s exactly what you do. Stalk, troll, insult.

Oldman

Again, you reap what you’ve sown.

JSNMGC

I disagree.

It’s because he doesn’t thank a certain percentage of enforcers for their service of:

  • Enforcing firearm laws that are even more unconscionable than the laws enforced by the BATFE;
  • Evoking the Nuremburg defense when they follow unconscionable orders;
  • Lobbying for more firearm control laws;
  • Ensuring they are exempt from the laws they lobby for; and
  • Lobbying against pro 2nd Amendment legislation.
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Russn8r

Your gratuitous stalk-troll attacks create a poisonous atmosphere on Ammoland. Your thug posts are vastly worse than what you claim I sowed. And you know this is why you’re doing it.

Knute Knute

“Thus, a nation becomes divided into two very distinct parts, a docile sub-nation and a political sub-nation. The political sub-nation remains attached to the docile sub-nation, tolerates it, and leaches its substance until it grows strong enough to detach itself and then devour its parent.” -Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
The sockpuppets are the political subnation. The ones that pretend that sockpuppets don’t exist are the docile subnation.

Henry Bowman

A very good book that ought to be closely studied…
And it looks like you triggered the sockpuppets at least 18x at the time I answer this. Well done, sir!

Knute Knute

Thank You. Thank You all! A new record! The political sub nationals all come crawling out from under the fridge when this subject comes up!
Get stomping before they get back under the stove! 🙂

Knute Knute

I even managed to pass Russ this time. People sure hate the truth don’t they? Silent Weapons, IS, OFC, as I’ve posted many times, an official US govt. document. That’s why the basement dwellers hate it so much. Because it cannot be discredited. Only voted down, one sock puppet a time! Talk about taking the long road around to the outhouse! Reminds me of the old joke about the city boy that stops a hick to get directions. City boy asks; “How far to town?” The hick answers; “Well, about 25 thousand miles the way you’re going. But if you… Read more »

Russn8r

Kudos. We’re tied with John at 18 LEO sock DVs vs WB’s glorious 18 “upvotes”. Dude lives here 24-7, stalk-trolling, curating, hall monitoring. 🙁

His pard says I “reaped what I sowed”. LOL. Blaming victims, further projecting a sad psychology. Viz, they think fake DVs hurt our feelings, that we’re jealous of their “upvotes”, that their chatroom commando sock war achieves something besides revealing… insecure need for upvotes, petty H8red, inability to rationally address pet issues, crapping in what they see as their punchbowl in a vain attempt to cancel messengers & thereby cancel messages like this:

Wild Bill

No, I think that folks are still considering what you write, because you are not reproachful.

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Henry Bowman

Free rent is nice but my true love is my trigger time…
By that I mean both on the range and on the internet, “triggering liberals”

Wild Bill

Free rent?

Henry Bowman

What Stag said… “living rent-free in their heads”. Like Trump lives rent-free in the heads of every triggered leftist in the country.

Henry Bowman

In other words, paid to troll by George Soros, et. al.

swmft

extra boosters extra boosters, more shots

Henry Bowman

In this world there are 2 kinds of shots: Whiskey shots, and well-aimed shots. For Soros, I’d love to see the latter happen!
P I N K M I S T

Henry Bowman

Hi Jeff, good to see you here! It’s just trolls & their multiple sockpuppets h8ting the straight shooters here. The more the downvotes, the better your cred is!
I would expect the trolls to downvote you more than the rest of us, your name precedes you bigly! I think the only reason they don’t downvote you 100x is because they haven’t made enough sockpuppets!

Wild Bill

How do you make your own memes?

Henry Bowman

You can use pretty much any image template you like in any image editing program / app. Add a funny quote, etc., and presto, you have a meme!

Wild Bill

Oh, a guy has to buy an ap. Ok.

swmft

love this one henry , anything with wile e coyote? acme auto cannon

Henry Bowman

Haha! I may do one with little quisling Harold as W. E. Coyote, and either a brick wall or a rock cliff.

Henry Bowman

Looks like a member of the Harold fan club (fellatio club) is here…

Henry Bowman

YIKES!

Henry Bowman

Thank you, trolls, your liberal tears refresh my soul!

Henry Bowman

Thanks, while downvotes are a badge of honor, the weight is substantial.

Russn8r

Get some!
LOL.

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Henry Bowman

I have a meme for that too, big fan of the FMJ movie…

Russn8r

I’ll be watching YOU!

Henry Bowman

Thanks, I’m here all week!

Russn8r

Nice try. He’s pro-gun, enthusiastic about signing it when it gets to him. FL’s last gun grab was written by Marion’s faux-pro-gun pet Willard & signed by the last gov. She’s insisted for decades on keeping the “gun free” zones that facilitated mass murders at Parkland & Orlando. Did ZIP to get CC voted on, lying for her pet scumbags who blocked it. She does ZIP to lobby for special session. Just carping & blameshifting like you or you’d post contact info. You don’t want CC, neither do your precious anti-gun LEO groups that help block it.

[email protected]
850-717-9337

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Russn8r

Nice try. Governors don’t write laws. You do NOTHING to lobby for special session. You don’t want CC. You’re just here to trash DeSantis & cover for NRA, Hammer, LEO groups & corrupt pols who block it.

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Henry Bowman

Russ, De Santis is not pro-2A. Seriously. He is an enthusiastic supporter of unconstitutional red flag confiscations, and encourages its use every day since he entered office. Look carefully, and you will see he’s a RINO who knows the conservative lexicon but does not hold our values in his heart. Give the man a chance to run for POTUS someday, and you’ll see he’s as antigun as Beto the Pendejo! Check it out!

Never forget: ALL politicians LIE. It’s a job requirement!

Russn8r

He didn’t write Red Flag and he didn’t sign it. Rick Scott did, and NRA winked at it.

As I’ve pointed out many times, it’s unrealistic to expect politicians to be more pro-gun than the NRA. They should, but it’s not realistic to expect it.

That said, I’ll check out any links you have.

All the best.

Henry Bowman

Bro, I NEVER said DeSantis wrote or signed the red flag law. Don’t put words in my mouth, thank you. What I DID say is that he is very happy to have red flags used on Floridians who never committed a crime or have been adjudicated mentally unfit by a proper court! LOOK UP HIS RECORD, OBJECTIVELY. Personally, I’m not a Floridian so I have no dog in that fight, I neither like or dislike him. What I DO dislike, however, is any GOP politician (like Crawdad Crenshaw the Redcoat) who is two-faced on 2A Rights. In this regard, I… Read more »

Henry Bowman

and this

Henry Bowman

this

Henry Bowman

also

Henry Bowman

and…

Henry Bowman

Marion is definitely a compromiser and that’s why she was a bigwig at NRA HQ. She still backstabs gunowners and is possibly the nation’s top BOOMER FUDD! Fact of the matter is, the WHOLE NRA LEADERSHIP, PAST AND PRESENT, STAND FOR INFRINGEMENTS. THEY ARE OK WITH RINOs and that makes them WHOLLY UNACCEPTABLE. They can GO TO HELL right next to ALL ANTIGUN POLITICIANS. What is an antigun politician? Any who accept ANY infringement, regardless of excuse. Seems too many gun owners are laboring under the delusion that not all gun control laws are infringements (they are). “Extremism in the… Read more »

Wild Bill

Russ has these confused episodes. And his insults never were more than back alley perversity.

Oldman

I think he has Sundowners Syndrome. He actually told me last night that he was not Superman….and to think…Joe Biden has more on the ball than the Roooski……………Can’t make this stuff up

Wild Bill

No, let him live in the mental hell of his own creation. We all chose to be happy or … other.

Russn8r

Never said you said it, so don’t put words in my mouth, thank you. I know the meme, since I upgraded it for you. You & I wish NRA wasn’t seen as the premiere group, but, sadly, to most of the world it still is. I hope GOA soon supplants it.

I haven’t seen evidence DeSantis is “very happy to have red flags used on Floridians who never committed a crime or have been adjudicated mentally unfit by a proper court.” I’m open to evidence. Show me.

Check the new tack by OM-WB-Bruce-et socks: DV me, UV you. Divide-conquer. Amusing

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Russn8r

Nice try, genius. You pretend DeSantis is primarily to blame, while covering for Marion Hammer, NRA, Sen Pres Willard Simpson & Rep Chuck Brannon who actually killed Sabatini’s bill. You don’t care about CC or you’d be lobbying for special session. Only thing you care about is pretending DeSantis is “anti-gun”.

Russn8r

My research doesn’t back your claim. DeSantis…

Says he would’ve vetoed Hammer’s pet Willard Simpson’s Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS Public Safety Act” (Red Flag/wait periods/min-21) signed by RINO Rick Scott. NOTvery happy to have red flags…”
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-florida-school-shooting-ron-desantis-second-amendment-20180410-story.html

Defends Stand Your Ground.

Fought UN Arms Trade Treaty.

Voted…to bar DC registration & 10day wait…against prohibiting persons who can’t manage benefits…for Vets 2A Protection Act, CC reciprocity.

Why blame him for the acts of others? Those making accusations should back them up with facts, not tell others to check it out.

Henry Bowman

Yes, whether it’s red flag, ERPO GVRO, whatever, ANY politician that’s OK with a blatant disregard for this denial of due process, RKBA, property rights, warrantless search & seizure, ad nauseam… is NOT pro-liberty. I’m a libertarian conservative so I’ll call anyone out, regardless of their political alignment.

Russn8r

Why do you keep covering for Marion Hammer, NRA, Sen Pres Willard Simpson & Rep Chuck Brannon who actually killed Sabatini’s bill, and blaming it all on DeSantis?

Russn8r

Bruce: TEX/Will/FordWill/Jesse’s latest sock.

Get off Abbott’s jock. He’s a VichyCon pretender. Only does the right thing under heavy pressure from real Rs, often not then. Tested the water for RED FLAG & AW bans.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/02/03/texans-overwhelmingly-want-gun-background-checks-are-open-to-red-flag-laws-dmn-ut-tyler-poll-finds/

Russn8r

Abbott suggested red-flag laws after 10 killed in a 2018 school shooting, but backed off under pressure from real conservatives.

“[Red Flag] is opposed by Jack Wilson who returned fire at his church, and Stephen Willeford who confronted the gunman in a shooting that left 26 parishioners dead.”

“If somebody wants a gun,” Wilson said, “they can get it whenever they want, red flag laws or not.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/08/22/could-texas-change-its-gun-laws-after-el-paso-mass-shooting-gov-abbott-opens-talks-as-nra-says-no-no-and-no/

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Russn8r

“Abbott expressed concerns about laws that allow private gun sales without background checks.”

“One stranger can sell a gun to another stranger & that’s a danger,” said Abbott.”

“Assault weapons,” Abbott said, “there was no coalescence of any solution about where we go with that. But there were several strategies on the table we will continue to talk about.”

john

Would seem that this guy Sen Tom Lee has some explaining to do Politicians can never be trusted There is more than one stray dog in the republican party.

The Senate panel led by Sen. Tom Lee, a longtime Republican lawmaker from the Tampa area, defied Hammer and moved the bill forward with a favorable recommendation“We have children killing children,” Lee said. “The Legislature has to act. We have to do something to continue to try to move the ball forward on some common-sense gun safety in this state.”

john

Is this the best you can do

Russn8r

Looks like there’s 2 sock puppet vote posses now. An NRA posse & WB’s LEO posse.