Wayne Lapierre vs LTC Allen West to Lead the NRA ~ VIDEO

Fairfax, VA – -(Ammoland.com)- I’m Dan Wos, and welcome to another Ammoland News Second Amendment Update.

Former congressman, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, is challenging Wayne Lapierre for his job as Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association.

A group of former & current NRA board members has called on West to “rescue” the NRA from what they see as poor management. And Allen West answered their call.

The NRA has been under fire from people like New York State Attorney General Letitia James. Some claim that New York is just targeting the NRA because they are the most prominent gun-rights group in the country, while others think that internal corruption led the NRA to the pickle they are in today. AmmoLand News has both sides of the story.

In a report written by long-time NRA protagonist, Jeff Knox, he highlights that Lapierre makes more per month than the average NRA member earns in a year. He also talks about the private jets and all the extravagant spending. Jeff then reports how Allen West was early to publically question Lapierre when allegations of corruption first arose.

That’s one side of the controversy.

Former NRA President, David A Keene takes the other side of the coin. In his AmmoLand News article, he argues that West isn’t the right person to run the NRA. He claims that West is all talk & no action, then highlights some of West’s less than stellar leadership roles. Calling him a “show horse.”

David believes that the group backing West just wants to get rid of Lapierre from the NRA.

In his opinion, Lapierre has done an excellent job defending our gun rights. He believes no one could have done a better job leading the NRA through this firestorm. He believes that we wouldn’t have the 2nd Amendment rights we do today, without Lapierre as the head of the NRA.

Does the NRA need new leadership? Is it time for Wayne to step back and let new blood lead the way? What do you think about the race for executive vice president of the NRA?

Tell us in the comments below and share this video with your family & friends to help support AmmoLand News, America’s oldest Second Amendment news outlet.

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JR

I commented, on the ‘NRA In Danger’ blog’s “Col. West Letter To The Board” (currently awaiting moderation) “Thank you for the high-road and minded reply, Colonel. But before you start on those lofty, worthwhile goals with us members supporting you, you know you must have the command changed. To Wayne and Susan LaPierre: I’m betting you’ve saved some pennies for y’all’s retirement, along with asking and receiving from The Board a good, healthy benefits package. Knowing this, it is time for The Old Guard to fade away as a famous soldier once said. I’m sure, at least from what I’ve… Read more »

JPM

Anyone, ANYONE would be better than LaPierre. Just get the S.O.B. out and stop the blatant abuse and gross criminality LaPierre has been and continues to be guilty of since he came to power, ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

Link

While WLP needs to go asap and to also answer for his actions west is NOT the replacement we need.
He has accomplished basically nothing since his military service and could not keep his gongressonial seat.
Find someone better.

RalphieBoy

Wayne and his cronies and my lifetime membership won’t mean a damn thing when they come knockin’ at my door. I regret that I have only one life to give to fulfill my oath to protect my country from these Democrat usurpers. I don’t regret joining the NRA, my Dad and my uncles and that Greatest Generation got us here. But I sure wish now I had spent that money on ammo and survival supplies. I will from now on. I’m afraid it’s gonna get ugly, I just hope I don’t have to stoop down & get back up (quickly,… Read more »

Wild Bill

Just put a wrong set of street numbers on your house. I myself will throw my stuff in the pickup and drive it over to the neighbors for a while.
Then I will invite them all in for coffee.

RalphieBoy

OK, Wayne. Since you are the only thing standing between 2A and totalitarianism, what are you gonna do about that smug-a$$ed bitch Hochul’s unconstitutional XO’s? The only organizations I see fighting for us and winning in court are NOT NRA. There’s the door, Big Guy. Use it.

Ope

But Wayne will continue to do what the NRA does best,,,..,take credit for everything they had nothing to do with. Their most recent line of bullshit is taking credit for the successful Constitutional Carry movement going on around the country. Does anyone really buy what Wayne’s still trying to sell ?

Russn8r

NRA takes credit for Constitutional Carry while endorsing pols who block it & poison pilling “carry” laws with “gun free” zones.

KenW

I don’t know why you have -5, because you’re correct about NRA/Hammer blocking CC in Florida.

Russn8r

It’s an Enforcer Sock Puppet paTROLL Posse. They hate those who think enforcers should be held accountable for violating rights. They want the names of their victims forgotten.

JD Keene

As a long time senior manager (retired) and a seventeen year instructor in management at the post grad level, I believe that the organization needs a top to bottom overhaul, including a new leadership team. Key metric: As gun ownership has rapidly grown the NRA membership wanes as more and more just don’t believe that they are offering much. I do not believe that they are. Membership should be in the tens of millions… As a life member and NRA Instructor in seven disciplines, I use their “services” and it is truly a challenge to do so. I suspect that… Read more »

shiftless

While I am a Republican, I’ve often wondered why the NRA endorses candidates that have voted against us when their vote is needed. What good does it do to keep a generally favorable party in the majority when that majority disappears when a vote counts. When we appear to be in one party’s pocket, we lose clout!

Russn8r

I disagree. Not all Rs are squishes. ALL Dems are anti-gun, even if they appear to vote for us on direct gun votes, they ALL back candidates like Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, and vote to confirm gun grabbers to the courts. The key is the primaries. Sadly, NRA even rewards traitors in the primaries.

shiftless

One of the next acts will be to reduce the number of directors to a workable number. With this many directors, everyone thinks that someone else is paying attention to what is going on. Ten directors would be bordering on too many.

Big George

No doubt, Charlton Heston is rolling over in his grave.

Russn8r

NOPE. Charlatan Heston was in on the grift, BIGLY.
Coconspirator in the ’97 AcMc-Mercury-LaPierre grifter coup d’etat.

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Link

Evidence.??
Or just your opinion ??
Heston was basically a publicity famous face for the organization.

ahhiyawa

Russn8r is right.

Lapierre recruited Heston to run against Neal Knox for the NRA Presidency back in 1997. Knox had uncovered Lapierre’s mismanagement and plundering of NRA resources and wanted to oust the thieves before they destroyed the association. Had Knox won the ruin Lapierre has wrought would never have been done.

Then and today I curse Heston’s name for being a willing and useful idiot.

Deconflictor

Time for LaPierre to go. The allegations are severe enough that in a time of exploding gun-ownership and expanded anti-gun actions by the governments, membership is decreasing. The people are leaving the NRA and voting with their memberships with other gun-rights organizations due to controversy of LaPierre and his cronies.

Xaun Loc

Getting rid of LaPierre is a good goal in itself (although sending him to prison in New York on multiple felonies would be a better goal). However getting rid of Wayne will not reform the NRA because the rot runs much too deep — including an overwhelming majority of the sitting directors. [Hint: I am sick of directors claiming “I didn’t vote against him because it wouldn’t have mattered because everyone else was voting for him”] Replacing Wayne also will not magically turn the NRA into a pro-RKBA organization. The NRA was not founded to be pro-RKBA and has never… Read more »

Orion

you dont know what ypu dont know…. and that’s a TON!
NRA fought the 94 AWB with all they had but lost becuse too many gun owners didnt believe ARs were viable or a good choice for hunting. add the leftist media who controlled the airwaves nightly and we were swamped.
after Sandy Hook they were able to stop AWB 2.0 in the Senate but im sure it’s because of nothing YOU did.
How’s your thumb smelling today??

Stag

Are you and Wayne dating or just really good friends?

DDS

Not quite. In the 1980s & early 1990s, Colt couldn’t give their AR15s away. That was the whole point of Josh Sugarmann’s white paper suggesting that: Handguns were too popular to be banned. Few “assault weapons” and few supporters of them existed. It would be possible to publicly beat the NRA on the issue. Here’s the conclusion of the VPC whitepaper for those of you who like to say TL:DR. https://vpc.org/publications/assault-weapons-and-accessories-in-america/assault-weapons-and-accessories-in-america-conclusion/ Hers’ the meat of it for the rest of you. https://vpc.org/publications/assault-weapons-and-accessories-in-america/ Long story short, the AR15 didn’t become “America’s Rifle” until FedGov told Americans that they couldn’t have one… Read more »

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Orion

lmao!… Colt couldnt give them away in the 1980s? our local shops couldn’t keep SP-1s in stock and when SP-2s hit in 1986, they were all but impossible to find. t wasnt until Colt modified their AR in late 1989 under new leadership that sales began dropping. Changing the hammer/trigger pin sizes, switching to plastic rifle buffers, removing that dangerous bayonet lug, installing that disgusting sear block soon after and finally, even suspending all civilian sales doomed Colt just as AR interest in ALL forms was taking off. Colt ‘s introduction of their 7.62×39 caliber version (1995) was the ONLY… Read more »

Russn8r

Ever stop lying? We won’t forget how you NRA grifters gave As & Bs to dozens who voted for the “Crime Control” aka “Assault Weapon” bill, and ILA gave a medal to “pro-gun hero” John Dingle AFTER he quit the NRA board of directors to vote for it.

How’s the weather under LaPew’s desk today, big boy?

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Orion

unlike the doom and gloom you live in, my weather is great. i have no need to post lies and disinformation.

ShooterOne

I have long been of the opinion that LaPierre should be replaced. I also believe that those who aid and abet him should go with him

MICHAELANGELO

West isn’t the best man for the job!!

Russn8r

You the best NRA can afford with millions bailing & the $ the grifters don’t pocket going to their grifter atty to keep them out of jail?

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SkippingDog

West is already a war criminal who retired in lieu of court martial. He’s a perfect fit for a criminal and racketeering organization like the NRA.

Tank

Yep an astute & valid data point.

The absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.

The occluded eye doesn’t see as well as the unclouded eye sees.

“The unclouded eye was better, no matter what it saw.”

Frank Herbert

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JT

I was in Iraq with Lieutenant Colonel West. He was used as a steppingstone for the then colonel who wanted his star and a slot at the Pentagon. I know exactly what Colonel West did and what led to him retiring, and in my opinion he was absolutely spot on correct!!

Wild Bill

Yes, there is a lot of politics at the O-6 level and above.

Tackleberry

Nothing but politics…

Wild Bill

Yes, there is a pyramid shaped good ole boys club, and if you are not part of it, the promotion boards comb through every OER that one ever got.

Wild Bill

Neither astute nor valid. LTC West has never been so much as charged much less tried or convicted of a war crime, thus he is not a war criminal.

Russn8r

Nice try. How is he a “war criminal”?

JT

He IS NOT a war criminal!

Russn8r

I know.

Wild Bill

War crimes and UCMJ violations are two different things. No American has ever been tried for a war crime. Every commander has numerous correction methods to which he can resort before charging a subordinate with UCMJ violation.

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Xaun Loc

You are either woefully ignorant or you are deliberately lying (perhaps a combination of both). Just because a war criminal is tried before a military court martial or a US court instead of before the so-called International Court does not make their crime any less a war crime. One example would be William Calley convicted by a US military court martial for his war crimes. Are you suggesting he was innocent just because we didn’t send him to the Hague or to Hanoi for a proper “war crimes” trial where the names of the rest of the war criminals involved… Read more »

Wild Bill

Respectfully. Nope, Courts Martial and War Crimes trial are two different sets of rules, two different sets of judges and two different venues.

LT Calley was neither tried nor convicted of a war crime, therefore he is not a war criminal and never will be. LT Calley was convicted of a violation of the UCMJ.

The US does not hold war crimes trials for out service members. No American has ever been tried by a war crime tribunal. We try our service members under the UCMJ for alleged violations of the UCMJ.

JSNMGC

“LT Calley was neither tried nor convicted of a war crime, therefore he is not a war criminal and never will be.” POS Calley was convicted of murdering 22 people. The conviction was difficult because the Army attempted to cover-up his murders and his alleged orders (that were almost certainly followed) to murder many more people. Upon appeal, his sentence was reduced to a ridiculously light sentence. It was further reduced to a token sentence by the the Secretary of the Army. After serving about a third of that token sentence, he was paroled by Nixon. He was not tried… Read more »

Russn8r

According to Wild Bill’s enforcer logic, Lon Horiuchi is not a murderer & never will be.

JSNMGC

A lot of good Americans went to Vietnam. POS Calley was not one of them.
 
There are a lot of good LEOs. Horiuchi, Monroe, Wenger, Brailsford, and Langley are not among them.

Wild Bill

LEOs do not practice war on Americans. Soldiers do not practice law enforcement on our enemies.
Law enforcement is a scalpel. War is a meat grinder.

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JSNMGC

LEOs are not supposed to “practice war” on Americans. Go read the rules of engagement that the three FBI snipers willingly followed. They lied about the pre-text for Horiuchi’s shots.

Members of the military are not supposed to purposely murder unarmed, non-combatants who are old men, women, and children. Your reference to law enforcement is irrelevant.

Wild Bill

There are no “rules of engagement” as a tool of law enforcement in American law enforcement.

Often American law enforcement trains with American military and pick up concepts and terms that they should not employ.

Rules of engagement are the commander’s tool to stay out of an engagement until the time and place of the commander’s choosing.

Politicians in the executive branch mess around with ROE because they think that it makes them sound cool in the press.

JSNMGC

Yes there were rules of engagement at Ruby Ridge – go watch the hearings.

The military veterans referred to the rules they were issued as “rules of engagement.”

Wild Bill

I am well aware. The Fat Boy Institute had trained with the Army and picked up concepts used in war, then wrongly incorporated those tools in a law enforcement action.
I also recall that there was a group that recognized the orders as being illegal and refused to follow what the FBI wrote down.

swmft

drug enforcement trained at quantico with fbi and had marine core instructors they All should have refused

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Ope

Which should had refused ?

JSNMGC

Again, the people testifying at the hearings were veterans – not people who merely trained with the Army.

Yes, the Denver team refused to “operate” under the ridiculous rules of engagement. I clearly named Horiuchi, Monroe, and Wenger as the FBI snipers who went all hut, hut, hut.

Wild Bill

“… went all hut, hut, hut.” ? What kind of baby talk is that. What are you trying to say?

JSNMGC

“‘… went all hut, hut, hut.’ ? What kind of baby talk is that. What are you trying to say?”

That the West Point graduate and former United States Army officer, Lon Horiuchi and his colleagues (at least one of whom was former military) followed orders.

Wild Bill

Rules of Engagement are a commanders guidance to the troops when not to engage. The Famous But Incompetent supervisory special agent that wrote a document that he entitled Rules of Engagement that told the underlings to engage. That is backwards.

There are two errors at work. First, the Feeble But Incharge took a military concept that they did not understand and applied it to a law enforcement circumstance. Second, they twisted the concept until it was 180 degrees backward.

Thank God that at least one group recognized the wrongness of it and refused.

JSNMGC

“There are two errors at work. First, the Feeble But Incharge took a military concept that they did not understand and applied it to a law enforcement circumstance. Second, they twisted the concept until it was 180 degrees backward.” ~ Wild Bill None of the former military employees at the hearing raised this point, not that it mattered. Unconscionable rules were developed, orders were issued, and orders were followed. “Thank God that at least one group recognized the wrongness of it and refused.” ~ Wild Bill There were a lot of former military employees on site. While the West Point… Read more »

Wild Bill

You seem to be implying that former military personnel are bad. Your survey sample is pretty small.

JSNMGC

“You seem to be implying that former military personnel are bad. Your survey sample is pretty small.”

No, that is not what I am implying. I was speaking specifically to those former military personnel who followed unconscionable orders at Ruby Ridge.

Wild Bill

Well, it sure sounds like you are trying to paint military and LEOs as bad people. In other comments you are even trying to discredit me for what others have done, when I went to all the effort of trying to explain to you.

JSNMGC

“Well, it sure sounds like you are trying to paint military and LEOs as bad people. In other comments you are even trying to discredit me for what others have done, when I went to all the effort of trying to explain to you.” ~ Wild Bill

That’s only because your feelings are hurt when bad military personnel and bad LEOs are criticized.

Ope

What exactly is the criteria you use to determine what LEO’s and military personnel are bad.

Russn8r

Someone who isn’t a mass murderer like Calley, for starters.

JSNMGC

“What exactly is the criteria you use to determine what LEO’s and military personnel are bad.” ~ Ope

I’m happy to answer that question.

First, answer the one I asked you earlier (see below) – to explain how a difficult mission and time constraint justified POS Calley murdering (and ordering others to murder) hundreds of people including infants and toddlers – at least 22 of them by himself.

Wild Bill

That don’t sound like criteria.

JSNMGC

“That don’t sound like criteria.” ~ Wild Bill

Most observant!

If he wants to answer my question, I’ll answer his question.

Wild Bill

I could care less. Anything coming from you is valueless.

Russn8r

Yet you keep trolling his jock.

Wild Bill

I think he wanted a response.

Russn8r

Don’t be coy. You’re entitled to your preferences.

swmft

you never heard of korea or Vietnam ?soldiers acting as police the non wars there are others

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Wild Bill

Respectfully, as I am sure that you are aware, Korea and VN were famously called a “police actions” by politicians because there was no declaration of war from Congress. But that was just politician speak because the administrations wanted to stop the communists by committing troops. Those were definitely wars.

Russn8r

Why don’t you explain this then.
Bills Gone Wild?

Wild Bill

Of all the things that could be “this” which do you contemplate?

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Russn8r

How coy. Once again, you make him your victim.
SAY HIS NAME, BILL

Wild Bill

Who is him?

Russn8r

Your evasion is cowardly, Generalíssimo.

Wild Bill

Now, what are you talking about?

Russn8r

LEOs do not practice war on Americans. Soldiers do not practice law enforcement on our enemies.”

Actually, both practice war on Americans, and you condone it.

Wild Bill

You have everything backwards. Only you can misunderstand what I am trying to convey. Alright. American Law Enforcement Officers MUST not practice war on American citizens, and I mean real war not virtual war in the poetic sense used by amateur debaters.

Russn8r

More evasion.

LT Calley was neither tried nor convicted of a war crime, therefore he is not a war criminal and never will be.” -Bill Gone Wild

Per your logic, the drug marine who killed Esequiel Hernandez Jr, the “hostage rescue” sniper who blew Vicki Weaver’s jaw off, and the FBI agents who incinerated 80 people at Waco, are not murderers.

It makes you an enabler & moral accomplice, and makes their victims yours.

Wild Bill

Can you not discern the difference between war and domestic law enforcement. The objectives, the logic, the techniques, and rules are different.

Russn8r

Makes no difference to you. You cover for the murderers in either case.

Wild Bill

I don’t even know a murderer.

Russn8r

Uh huh. Here’s an “opfor” that’s right up your alley.

“Shot in the back, giving her no chance, and that is good!” Have a nice day, opfor!

Wild Bill

That is wrong. The things that we do in war must never be visited upon our American citizenry.

Wild Bill

I know that you will not understand because you have not experienced combat, but … war is an upside down world where the worse killer one is the better soldier he is. It is not a sport, although one makes the ultimate bet. There is no even playing field. If one can sneak around back and shoot all the opfors in the back, giving them no chance, that is good. Our job is to kill our nation’s enemies; defend our unit; and win our nation’s wars. We break things and kill people. That is our job. That is what we… Read more »

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JSNMGC

Purposely killing unarmed, non-combatants who are old men, women, and children was not your job. Your knowledge of your military job is about as good as your legal analysis skills.

Ope

To even try to understand My Lai you have to understand Tet offensive.

JSNMGC

I wonder if West’s opinion of the murders is similar to the view you and WB hold.

If you could be re-activated and were told the greatest threat to America was white supremacist, insurrectionists, would you follow WB’s orders to machine gun hundreds of unarmed American old men, women, and children? Assume there would be a promotion and a medal in it for you. Rank is everything.

Wild Bill

You are mixing war and law enforcement again. Apples to oranges. Water and oil. Your argument is contrived, silly and born of your lack of vital experience.

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JSNMGC

Uh huh.

Wild Bill

You are a member of neither of those professions. I did not think that you would understand.
Oh, and collateral damage happens all the time.
Curtis Lemay destroyed 63 Japanese cities filled with unarmed, noncombatants who were old men, women, and children. He got four stars out of it.

JSNMGC

What happened at My Lai wasn’t collateral damage – the Army convicted POS Calley of committing 22 murders.

Ope

LT Calley did take the fall for the men in his command. Not one was ever charged. Wonder why ?

JSNMGC

What does lack of charges against others have to do with the Army convicting POS Calley of 22 murders?

Wild Bill

Many were involved. Only one charged. LT Calley took the fall, just like Ope said.

JSNMGC

Part 1 of 2   “Many were involved. Only one charged. LT Calley took the fall, just like Ope said.” ~ Wild Bill   “Took the fall.” Despite the massive attempted cover-up by numerous Army officers, it was determined that POS Calley murdered, and ordered others to murder, helpless, unarmed non-combatants. Total estimate of people murdered was 504, among the victims were 182 women—17 of them pregnant—and 173 children, including 56 infants.   It’s disgusting that you, a former Lieutenant Colonel of the United States Army, would attempt to whitewash this atrocity. You were supposed to have attended training about this incident to… Read more »

JSNMGC

Part 2 of 2 The cover-up may have been the reason more individuals were not convicted of murder and rape (of females from 10 years old to 45 years old).     According to the Army Historical Foundation, thirteen officers and enlisted men were charged with “war crimes or crimes against humanity.” Another twelve officers were charged with having actively covered up the My Lai incident. Of the 25 people charged, only four officers and two enlisted soldiers were tried.   Everyone on the panel (jury) were not only military personnel, put people who had been in combat in Vietnam. The… Read more »

Wild Bill

Wow, twenty-five charged and one convicted. Sounds like someone had to pay for it. I guess that the one convicted got picked.
Didn’t he get a presidential pardon? Someone in power must have thought that something was wrong.
I think that you should go back and do some more research.

JSNMGC

“Wow, twenty-five charged and one convicted. Sounds like someone had to pay for it. I guess that the one convicted got picked. Didn’t he get a presidential pardon? Someone in power must have thought that something was wrong. I think that you should go back and do some more research.” ~ Wild Bill You are a piece of work. You were supposed to be trained on this atrocity. No, POS Calley did not get a “presidential pardon.” Nixon “paroled” him so that he was released from prison and put on house arrest. What someone in power was worried about was… Read more »

Wild Bill

Those officers knew that someone had to pay. They picked the OIC.

JSNMGC

“Those officers knew that someone had to pay. They picked the OIC.” ~ Wild Bill

You shouldn’t discredit those officers. They evaluated all the evidence and came to the correct conclusion. POS Calley was guilty of murdering 22 people including non-bomb-carrying infants and toddlers. They sentenced him to life in prison.

Wild Bill

I did not say that it was and that is why his Judge Advocate did not use collateral damage as his defense.

JSNMGC

Just another one of your red herrings.

Wild Bill

Have it your way. I knew that you would not ve able to understand.

Ope

He’s looking at this through civilian eyes only.

Wild Bill

Yes, his opinion is based upon MSM “reports”.

JSNMGC

The United States Army convicted POS Calley of 22 murders. You stated that because POS Calley was not tried and convicted of a war crime he is not a war criminal.   False. He very well could be a war criminal. We won’t know because he was not tried.   You state that because POS Calley was not tried and convicted of a war crime he will never be a war criminal.   False. Even if he was not a war criminal for his actions in 1968, he could be a war criminal sometime in the future.   When confronted with your faulty… Read more »

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Wild Bill

Calley is, by your own words, not a war criminal. “… could be…” falls short of is.
You are just making sophomoric arguments. I should have known that being honest with you was a mistake.

JSNMGC

“Calley is, by your own words, not a war criminal. “… could be…” falls short of is.
You are just making sophomoric arguments. I should have known that being honest with you was a mistake.” ~ Wild Bill

Pathetic. You stated he is not a war criminal. That is incorrect. I stated that he could be a war criminal, not that he is.

That’s not a sophomoric argument – it is the correct legal answer.

You regret being honest in this instance – that’s telling.

JSNMGC

“Yes, his opinion is based upon MSM ‘reports’.” ~ Wild Bill

No, my opinion is based on the testimony provided by members of the military, photos, the verdict reached by the jury (who were all military members), and historical accounts written and archived by members of the military.

Wild Bill

You read up on the subject after the argument developed and you were committed. You aren’t fooling anyone.

JSNMGC

“You read up on the subject after the argument developed and you were committed. You aren’t fooling anyone.” ~ Wild Bill

No, I read all that a long time ago. I went back and pulled up specifics.

You lied when you indicated my opinion was based on MSM reports.

Wild Bill

Nope. it was a guess. And closer to the truth than you will ever admit.

JSNMGC

“Nope. it was a guess. And closer to the truth than you will ever admit.” ~ Wild Bill

It was one of your unequivocal assertions based on nothing – that’s a lie. Of course I didn’t remember all the names, ranks, etc. – I went back and got all those details to refute your position which is not the Army’s position.

Wild Bill

Nope, no intention to deceive. Why would you believe the brass now? I am glad that you spent so much time on it.

Wild Bill

Read it along time ago … in the newspapers?

JSNMGC

“Read it along time ago … in the newspapers?”

Funny – no.

If you weren’t so afraid of clicking on links you could learn more.

JSNMGC

“He’s looking at this through civilian eyes only.” ~ Ope

The jury who sentenced POS Calley to life in prison (hard labor) were all members of the military who were in combat in Vietnam.

Wild Bill

No, not a herring. Someone had to take the blame, Calley was the OIC. He got picked.

JSNMGC

“You are a member of neither of those professions. I did not think that you would understand. Oh, and collateral damage happens all the time. Curtis Lemay destroyed 63 Japanese cities filled with unarmed, noncombatants who were old men, women, and children. He got four stars out of it.” ~ Wild Bill Understand? It’s not a lack of understanding. The jury who sentenced POS Calley to a life sentence (of hard labor) were all military personnel who were in combat in Vietnam. I think they understood. Your “collateral damage” red herring is ridiculous. The non-combatants at My Lai were herded-up… Read more »

Wild Bill

You misunderstand. I did not suggest that collateral damage was a defense. Just that it happens all the time.

I meant that war is an upside down world … the opposite of the soft civil life that you have always lead. Thus you would not have a basis for understanding.

JSNMGC

“You misunderstand. I did not suggest that collateral damage was a defense. Just that it happens all the time. I meant that war is an upside down world … the opposite of the soft civil life that you have always lead. Thus you would not have a basis for understanding.” ~ Wild Bill No – you keep throwing things against the wall hoping they will stick. The My Lai massacre was not an upside down world – a criminal ordered people murdered. POS Calley was found guilty by military personnel experienced in combat in Vietnam. They had not always “lead”… Read more »

Wild Bill

I think that many in that village were Vietcong. The Vietcong did not give villagers the option to not be involved.
Calley is no longer a criminal. He received a full presidential pardon. I wonder why.

JSNMGC

“I think that many in that village were Vietcong. The Vietcong did not give villagers the option to not be involved. Calley is no longer a criminal. He received a full presidential pardon. I wonder why.” ~ Wild Bill That’s what you think. Whatever they were, the military personnel with Vietnam combat experience looked at all the evidence and concluded POS Calley murdered 22 people and tried to murder another person. Many of them were infants and small children. You are not allowed to start shooting unarmed people because you think it is possible that some of them may have… Read more »

Wild Bill

Oh, I thought that it was a pardon. They sure don’t do house arrest for mass murders very often. I wonder what was behind that.

JSNMGC

“Oh, I thought that it was a pardon. They sure don’t do house arrest for mass murders very often. I wonder what was behind that.” ~ Wild Bill

Put forth your view – it doesn’t change the fact that military personnel who understood what combat was like in Vietnam (because they had been in combat in Vietnam) convicted POS Calley of murdering 22 people.

Wild Bill

Of courts they did. It was a difficult job that had to be done.

JSNMGC

“Of courts they did. It was a difficult job that had to be done.” ~ Wild Bill

Yes, of course they convicted him of murder. I don’t know if it was difficult. Even with the massive attempted cover-up there was still a lot of evidence and testimony from the helicopter pilot who watched the Americans raping and murdering before he could stop them and the private who testified that POS Calley gave him a direct order to murder people.

Wild Bill

I bet that the panel had to do it, but did not want to, knowing Vietnam.

JSNMGC

“I bet that the panel had to do it, but did not want to, knowing Vietnam.” ~ Wild Bill Do you believe the panel was tampered with – that they were coerced into convicting POS Calley? If so, do you believe they valued their pensions more than doing their duty? Do you believe Colonel Reid W. Kennedy was in on the fix? Do you think POS Calley should not have been convicted of herding-up and shooting babies and toddlers with his rifle? Do you think the helicopter pilot lied about the rapes and murders he witnessed? Do you think private… Read more »

Wild Bill

A finding either way would not have and does not effect their pensions. Nor was there any tampering. You guess wrong at everything.

JSNMGC

It was a question. Why do you “bet that the panel had to do it, but did not want to?” Why do you believe they “had to do it?” What does that mean? Do you believe Colonel Reid W. Kennedy was involved in a finding that was wrong, but “had” to be done? Do you think POS Calley should not have been convicted of herding-up and shooting babies and toddlers with his rifle? Do you think the helicopter pilot lied about the rapes and murders he witnessed? Do you think private Conti lied under oath about the orders POS Calley… Read more »

Ope

Remember scumbag LBJ ? Right there.

JSNMGC

Johnson was a scumbag, but what does that have to do with POS Calley being found guilty of murdering 22 people? The people who convicted him had all been in combat in Vietnam and were familiar with the difficulties of fighting in that environment. Do you think POS Calley should not have been convicted of herding-up and shooting babies, toddlers, and other victims? Do you think the helicopter pilot lied about the rapes and murders he witnessed? He and the rest of the helicopter crew were appalled and stopped the massacre. Do you think private Conti lied under oath about… Read more »

Ope

LBJ played a major role in railroading LT Calley for My Lai. They had to have a fall guy and LT Calley was the most convenient victim they had. Democrat presidents appeasing their liberal base is nothing new.

JSNMGC

The panel of military personnel (who all had combat experience in Vietnam) concluded POS Calley personally murdered 22 people and attempted to murder another person. They listened to testimonies of eyewitnesses. How did railroading by LBJ affect that conclusion? Why is POS Calley a fall guy? He was found guilty of personally murdering 22 people and attempting the murder of another victim. Do you think POS Calley should not have been convicted of herding-up and shooting babies, toddlers, and other victims? Do you think the helicopter pilot lied about the rapes and murders he witnessed? He and the rest of the helicopter… Read more »

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Wild Bill

Yes, the U.S. military is self governing. If the Army did not convict someone, the self governing status could have been lost. Politicians like LBJ would have done that in a heart beat!

JSNMGC

“Yes, the U.S. military is self governing. If the Army did not convict someone, the self governing status could have been lost. Politicians like LBJ would have done that in a heart beat!” ~ Wild Bill Do you think the panel convicted POS Calley because they didn’t want the military to lose their self-governing status? If so, do you believe they really thought POS Calley was innocent, but they sentenced an innocent man to life in prison, at hard labor, because they didn’t want the military to lose their self-governing status? If not, why do you think the panel “had”… Read more »

JSNMGC

“There is no even playing field. If one can sneak around back and shoot all the opfors in the back, giving them no chance, that is good.” ~ Wild Bill

“Opfor.” 

Babies, small children, skinny women, pregnant women, and skinny old men. What a hero.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/my-lai-massacre-photos#9

Wild Bill

One of your background probably can not conceive of babies, small children, skinny or fat women, pregnant women, and skinny old men being the enemy, but often they were. The communists strapped bombs to their own children and sent those children toward the Americans then detonated the bombs. In the Vietnam war, any of them could be the non-uniformed enemy, and often were. Our young men lost many of their friends and hate grew. Some decided to descent to the level of the enemy. Your soft life condemnation is why veterans do not discuss their experiences. People like you are… Read more »

JSNMGC

“One of your background probably can not conceive of babies, small children, skinny or fat women, pregnant women, and skinny old men being the enemy, but often they were. The communists strapped bombs to their own children and sent those children toward the Americans then detonated the bombs. In the Vietnam war, any of them could be the non-uniformed enemy, and often were. Our young men lost many of their friends and hate grew. Some decided to descent to the level of the enemy. Your soft life condemnation is why veterans do not discuss their experiences. People like you are… Read more »

Wild Bill

No, the distrust is because of people like you that foster and encourage distrust.
The Army brass knew the conditions in VN. That is why only one took the fall. As soon as possible a Presidential Pardon was arranged. I wonder why.

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JSNMGC

“No, the distrust is because of people like you that foster and encourage distrust.
The Army brass knew the conditions in VN. That is why only one took the fall. As soon as possible a Presidential Pardon was arranged. I wonder why.” ~ Wild Bill

No – it is because so few of the people who consider themselves “good apples” (like you) refuse to call-out the bad apples.

There was no presidential pardon – Nixon paroled him so he could be released from prison and serve his time under house arrest.

Wild Bill

OMG, now it is accusing me of being a good apple. I am cut to the quick.

JSNMGC

“OMG, now it is accusing me of being a good apple. I am cut to the quick.” ~ Wild Bill

For someone with a law degree, you struggle with understanding what is written: “people who consider themselves ‘good apples'”

I certainly don’t consider you a good apple – you consider yourself a good apple.

Wild Bill

Oh, I stand corrected. Meh.

Russn8r

For someone who claims a law degree in his legend.

Ope

Please explain exactly what criteria you use in determining a “good apple” from a rotten apple full of worms.

Ope

My Lai was an impossible mission for LT Calley & Charlie Co.to accomplish. A set up. So much to do so little time to do it.

Wild Bill

Calley’s war was a blur. Mine were so much clearer.

Ope

If I had to deal with the shit LT Calley did mine would prob.be a blur too.

JSNMGC

“Calley’s war was a blur. Mine were so much clearer.” ~ Wild Bill

The murders were premeditated. He gave orders to herd-up and murder specific, individual, unarmed, non-combatants. When his orders were not obeyed, he repeated his orders and participated in the murdering himself. That’s not a “blur.”

Wild Bill

The blur in Vietnam was that anyone could be the enemy and frequently were. They used the presumption of noncombatant against our young men … your fellow Americans.
Just because they did not have a gun in their hand did not mean that they were unarmed or not participating. That entire village may have spent its spare time sharpening pungy sticks, wiring booby traps, doing recon and passing information, and sheltering Vietcong. You don’t know.

JSNMGC

“The blur in Vietnam was that anyone could be the enemy and frequently were. They used the presumption of noncombatant against our young men … your fellow Americans. Just because they did not have a gun in their hand did not mean that they were unarmed or not participating. That entire village may have spent its spare time sharpening pungy sticks, wiring booby traps, doing recon and passing information, and sheltering Vietcong. You don’t know.” ~ Wild Bill The people who fought in Vietnam and who convicted POS Calley knew all that – why do you keep trying to go… Read more »

Wild Bill

You think that the brass could not get together and decide an outcome? Why do you trust the court-martial result when you don’t trust military people? Sounds situational because it supports your argument.

JSNMGC

“You think that the brass could not get together and decide an outcome? Why do you trust the court-martial result when you don’t trust military people? Sounds situational because it supports your argument.” ~ Wild Bill

Why don’t you trust the military personnel who were on the jury? Do you think they were intimidated into announcing a verdict that was not what they reached independently?

Wild Bill

It is not just the panel. Who do you think declined prosecution on the rest? And what about the panels in the other trials? You don’t think that the fix was in?
Someone had to pay, the Courts Martial panel had a distasteful job to do. They picked the OIC.

JSNMGC

“It is not just the panel. Who do you think declined prosecution on the rest? And what about the panels in the other trials? You don’t think that the fix was in? Someone had to pay, the Courts Martial panel had a distasteful job to do. They picked the OIC.” ~ Wild Bill There certainly could have been even more corrupt members of the military as you suggest, I don’t know. It certainly seems like more rapers/murderers should have been convicted. None of that would mean that POS Calley’s conviction was improper. The experienced people on the panel (who fought… Read more »

Russn8r

Your pomposity & soullessness is legendary, Generalíssimo. Seems you were quite clear on your murders. No blur at all. Just “people with names like Muhammad”. No wonder you cover for murderers here in the “homeland”.

“If one can shoot all the opfors in the back, giving them no chance, that is good.” ~ Bill Gone Wild

JSNMGC

He also wrote that if he was president, he would put a bounty on “wets.”

West should contact Wild Bill and requst Wild Bill stop his support. I can’t imagine West would want to be affiliated with him.

Russn8r

Soulless POS should change his legend to WWII German army. More believable. Here’s a dead “wet” for him to celebrate.

Russn8r

This “opfor” sounds like Bill’s style: “Shot in the back, giving her no chance, and that is good!”

Where does one learn those morals? Hemline U? Nazi War College?

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Wild Bill

Can you not separate war from domestic law enforcement? Different objectives, different techniques, equipment, and rules.

Ope

Those two worlds are about as opposite as it can get. Complete 180.

JSNMGC

“Those two worlds are about as opposite as it can get. Complete 180.” ~ Ope

Did you walk up to a baby and shoot it in the head with your rifle? That’s a hard life.

Wild Bill

You know that he did not. How foolish to even ask.

JSNMGC

“You know that he did not. How foolish to even ask.” ~ Wild Bill

I have no idea. You make it sound like something that is normal to you (in your hard life).

Wild Bill

So, if you were just guessing, was that a lie?

In my time, we had the advantage of clarity.

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JSNMGC

“So, if you were just guessing, was that a lie?
In my time, we had the advantage of clarity.” ~ Wild Bill

Of course, not – I asked a question.

You made an uequivocal assertion, based on nothing with intent to deceive.

Wild Bill

Of course, when you guess it is innocent. When anyone else guesses, it it a lie.

JSNMGC

“Of course, when you guess it is innocent. When anyone else guesses, it it a lie.” ~ Wild Bill

I didn’t guess – I asked him a question. You should have been able to understand that because of the question mark. You certainly should have been able to understand it after it was explained to you.

Russn8r

You can’t. You wave your hands to cover for murderers in both worlds & their intersections.

Wild Bill

Not true.

Russn8r

Oh, it’s true.

Wild Bill

Now what are you blithering about?

Wild Bill

We put bounties on other law breakers.

Wild Bill

Who did I cover for? Say their name.

Wild Bill

Yes.

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JSNMGC

“My Lai was an impossible mission for LT Calley & Charlie Co.to accomplish. A set up. So much to do so little time to do it.” ~ Ope

I’d like to hear your explanation of how “an impossible mission” was a “set up” that resulted in POS Calley deciding the right thing to do was gather up babies, toddlers, and other unarmed combatants and blow them to pieces with machine guns and grenade launchers. Did that free-up time?

Russn8r

Just like the cop who machine-gunned Daniel Shaver is not a murderer & never will be.

SAY HIS NAME, BILL

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Wild Bill

Apples to oranges. Unworthy of comment.

Russn8r

Translation: Unable to honestly comment.

Oldman

So his other comments are ‘honest’? I didn’t think you would ever admit to that. So your translation is just misleading or another all out lie. How many is that today?

Wild Bill

Lots of them. I have spent way too much valuable time on these two.

Oldman

Yeah, me too. For a little while there I thought JS was going to distance himself from Superman, but we both know that their whole deal is still a tag team. As has been discussed for a long time, the only way to deal with them is to totally ignore them. I have seen it, in the past, that when they can’t get a response from their totally illiterate comments, they shut down. It’s totally irresponsible, IMO to give either one of them the time of day. TOTAL waste of an intelligent person’s time to play their stupid games. It’s… Read more »

Russn8r

Why do you two love birds keep trolling us, Superman?

Wild Bill

Yes, you are right. I don’t know why I thought this time would be any different.

MICHAEL J

Speed of the leader, Speed of the gang.
A no confidence in anyone in position will bring down any organization. Any elected position needs term limits lest they be corrupted.

JimQ

LaPierre should have been removed years ago.

Allen West should be put in place to clean house and restore the NRA’s good name by ending the corruption and excessive spending on suits and pay that do not help safeguard and advance our rights.

DDS

Does the NRA need new leadership? Is it time for Wayne to step back and let new blood lead the way?

Let me ask you one. Is the Pope catholic?

JimQ

DDS, usually I’d agree but this current pope Frank is a no good rotten socialist and teaches many things against Catholic theology

Bill

A M E N !!!!!

Tank

LaPierre is just another puppet. Oliver North a Knight’s of Malta member was another. Name one False Flag that the NRA had ever called out ? Just one …. Crickets chirping in a echo chamber. The NRA’s long train of abuses have been noted by millions of Americans who realized it was corrupt & did NOT make any opposition to many UN-Constitutional illegal laws & legislative abuses under color & authority of law. WACO/Ruby Ridge/OK were just glimpe’s into the Deep State’s 5Th column that does exist no matter how many time the MSM cries & plays the conspiracy theory… Read more »

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SkippingDog

Crazy talk.

TexDad

To the board:

The members do not trust Wayne. Stop ignoring us, and give us someone we can trust.

Russn8r

Since 95% of the board is in on the grift, I fear any replacement they agree to will not be intended to be in our interest, only to save themselves & resume the grift. But if they choose Col West thinking he’ll be their “boy”, it may not work out that way.

Jason

When the NRA under Wayne started endorsing deceptocrat….I mean democrat candidates I knew all I needed to know about him and the NRA. Not another Dime until the NRA has new leadership and proven itself. I canceled my membership and let all of my NRA Instructor credentials expire MANY years ago.

TOG

I vote for West. I am a life member. I am not sending in one more dollar until the LaPierre and his cronies are gone.

MICHAELANGELO

It will probably be a while

TGP389

What irony! A decorated combat officer not having leadership skills. LaPierre has sucked on the NRA’s teat long enough. If West isn’t up to the task, it will soon become evident and he, too, can be replaced. At least the NRA hasn’t had to declare bankruptcy under Lt. Col. West.

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PistolGrip44

It does not matter to me who is at the helm. I will never go back.

A “former,” Life Member.

Rick

WLP is a cancer that needs to be excised in order for the NRA to continue to exist. If he cannot be defeated I’d rather the organization cease to exist. If GOA and SAF had the NRA’s funding we would have our 2A rights restored-in-full.

musicman44mag

Just the size of his paycheck and perks alone is a drain on the NRA. Does anyone think he is really worth that much? At this point I feel anyone would do a better job.

TargetAssassin

Why does a supposed supporter of our 2nd ammendment rights need to be paid that much in the first place? He’s done nothing but fleece the members of the NRA for years. It’s time for the corruption to stop. He needs to go. I certainly will not send them anymore money until he’s gone. And I know this is a tiny bit off topic, but the NRA needs to atop having their membership bling manufactured in China. That alone says enough about the decisions made within the board. They are supporting a country that wants our second ammendment gone completely.… Read more »

Cruiser

A leader needs to have integrity, LTC West has that. He proved that just by his military career alone. LaPierre has proven the opposite. At one time I believed in LaPierre but with what has happened over the years I have lost confidence in his integrity. He has been using my donation as a cash cow
for personal use. I’m sure he is paid a generous salary, but as with many CEO’s nothing is ever enough, and greed takes over.

TargetAssassin

And where do you think that paycheck he draws, comes from? Membership dues!! So either way, he’s destroying the NRA.

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Rambler

Having been a CEO myself, and having worked directly under at least five of them, I recognize that the ability to lead and innovate begins to fade over time. I have read that the optimal tenure for a CEO is about 7 years. Of course, there are those that perform well for much longer, and those that fade earlier. Personally, I felt myself beginning to fade in the last year (my 11th as CEO), but I was already preparing a successor, and decided on my own to get out while I was still at the top of my game, as… Read more »

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ahhiyawa

LaPierre was NEVER any good. His forte is and always has been of a scheming political consultant, lobbyist and activist who mastered the “politics of personal destruction.”

A political wolf among lambs who bought them all like cheap dates on a cheaper Saturday Night, or face the same fate he executed against Neal Knox and others who opposed him.

Laddyboy

AGAIN! Show me the list of INFRINGEMENTS which the NRA, under Mr. Lapierre has helped to pass AGAINST American Citizens!
I believe there are about 6 to 8 times more infringement laws have been passed while under Mr. Lapierre’s rule.

Laddyboy

I stand corrected by the information ‘Russn8r’ has provided below in his response. It IS NOT the JOB of the NRA to INFRINGE Americans’ RIGHTS!

Russn8r

WB’s hate paTROLL downvoted you for agreeing with me. Amusing.

Orion

because you post BS. take the pain, you earn every bit.

sharky65

Like all of you I’ve been following these events for what seems like forever. I’ve read the accolades for LaPierre and the accusations and I believe the old adage, where there’s smoke there’s fire. If read specific charges leveled against LePierre and also read where he has essentially acknowledged these charges. What I find very disturbing is when I read comments from LaPierre supporters I they never provide one iota of evidence refuting the accusations of funds misappropriation, cronyism, mismanagement etc. All you folks that are supporting LaPierre, how about some facts to backup your position.
Life Member

Dan

Maybe I’m too loyal for my own good but I have always admired Wayne Lapierre and still do. I also feel the same about Lt. Col West but like his run against Gov. Abbot, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

Bill

It’s Broke AND at the rate WLP and the BOD are spending, the NRA’s coffers will soon be as empty as Fort Knox’s Gold Depository!

TargetAssassin

All current NRA members need to demand a refund of their membership dues in full. They don’t deserve our support anymore. They’ve violated our trust and admitted it.

Cappy

It is painful to say this, but just perhaps the NRA has outlived its usefulness. With GOA and SAF actually doing the hard work for gun owners, maybe we no longer need the NRA. The NRA has folded or compromised on too many issues and done so at great expense under LaPierre. My money now goes to those who don’t abuse my donation.

Carl up North

At this point I’m pulling for the New York Attorney General taking out Wayne once and for all and his hench-people. An Endowment Life Member

Dan

I’m an Endowment life member also #30645853 and I find your statement (and your hero AG James) repulsive.

DIYinSTL

I’m a Patron life member and believe that James might, in the long run, be doing the NRA a favor by removing Wayne and possibly the board. She has already been barred by the court from taking down the NRA as an entity.

Ope

James reasons for wanting to destroy the NRA are far different than ours. She despises the 2nd Amend.,firearms and gun owners. We despise the thieves and the scum who’ve destroyed the once great NRA.

Russn8r

True, yet it would be amusing if she ended up being NRA’s savior & greatest fundraiser – unintended consequences; now she seeks individual scalps & restitution after the judge quashed her plan to dissolve NRA. Something members would never have been able to pull off.

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DIYinSTL

Oh, the irony.

Russn8r

She’s not his hero. Strawman

AZ Lefty

Well that is a lose lose situation

Henry Bowman

LaPierre is everything wrong with the NRA. He is the author of every compromise, every surrender that has held back the 2A community for decades! NO EVP SHOULD BE IN THAT OFFICE FOR MORE THAN A DECADE; WE NEED TERM LIMITS!

Russn8r

Expanded. Enjoy

MICHAELANGELO

I see you you at it again

Russn8r

you you

Orion

again with your BS plaque that lies with almost every single line. were you always this pathetic?

never mind…. we know.

MICHAELANGELO

How many victories under WLP?

Russn8r

None. All by other groups. Lot’s of preemptive surrenders though.

Russn8r

How many “victories” have you had “under WLP”?

Henry Bowman

ZERO. Lots of surrenders & compromises. NRA is essentially a fudd’s paradise with Radioactive Wayne feathering his nest to the tune of tens of millions (not counting his heavily padded expense acct. or per-diem).

Orion

sometimes just haulting a bad bill in its tracks is a win. the NRA under WLP has done that.

john

Allen West is still not the man for the job my personal opinion. He does have a great military career to bring to the table. That would be his undoing with those in Washington in the political venue. He will be attacked from all sides and his career will be tarnished as democrats have no moral compass. Truthfully I would be more inclined to see a women with a impressive background apply for the title. Since 2019 more women have applied for handguns in America than ever before . I believe if you are going the shake up those opposed… Read more »

swmft

how about colin noir? kind of a left field hit ,but he is a lawyer and loves guns, we need someone who knows how to delegate and listen

john

Not familiar with that name I will check that out
Thanks

Henry Bowman

Here is Colion Noir’s youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC193r5YXcpQJV34N99ZbhzQ

Terry

He is a fine pick and a great guy, however, he’s not running. Wishing for Superman when all we’ve got is Batman will not help. West may not be perfect but he’s a billion % better than Wayne.

Terry

He will not be running – West is.

Laddyboy

‘Colin Noir’ is his internet name. I do not know his REAL LIFE name. However, I believe HE WOULD BE a GOOD CHOICE!

Terry