FBI: Las Vegas Shooter Had NFA Weapons? ~ VIDEO

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- The Las Vegas attack in 2017 brings with it more questions than answers. One of the most curious components of this horrible act was the narrative buildup around bump stocks. If you believe the press propaganda, you would be forced to think the killing would’ve never happened had it not been for these devices that hardly anyone ever talked about prior to October 1st, 2017.

The media tells us that bump stocks were the catalyst in this horrible act of murder, but it appears that the FBI referred to “prohibited firearms” as being the weapon of choice in this attack. The attack took place on October 1st, 2017, and according to a recent tweet by well-known 2nd Amendment Attorney, Stephen Stamboulieh, the FBI reported the day after, on October 2nd, 2017, that the killer was in possession of “prohibited firearms.”

“On or around October 1, 2017, in Las Vegas, Nevada, Stephen Paddock, DOB 4/9/1953, illegally possessed prohibited firearms [emphasis added] in violation of 26 U.S.C. Section 5841. Paddock utilized prohibited firearms in the mass shooting incident that took place on Las Vegas Boulevard (the Strip) in which 50 people were killed and over 500 people were injured.”

If bump stocks were the culprit and “prohibited firearms” were found at the scene, wouldn’t one assume there were other NFA firearms present? Remember, bump stocks hadn’t been banned yet. Bump stocks were named as the culprit, but “restricted firearms” were found. So, shouldn’t we inspect the firearms that were found at the scene to see exactly what they’re talking about? Was the attack executed with bump stocks, or were there other firearms involved? If there were other firearms used, shouldn’t we know more about them?

In a PowerPoint presentation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, it was explained that ATF was not allowed to physically examine the interior of the weapons for machinegun fire-control components or known machinegun conversion devices such as Drop-In Auto Sears, Lightning Links, etc. recovered from the Las Vegas killer’s hotel room. Weird, huh?

A Freedom of Information Act Request filed by Stamboulieh representing firearms designer Len Savage added even more confusion:

“…the ATF FEO has not been able to conduct a full examination of them at this time.”

According to Len Savage, “ATF did not disclose that they had not examined the firearms prior to promulgating the rule,” Savage also said, “And now that the comment period is closed … that information cannot be used in a court challenge because it was not submitted prior to the closing of comments.”

So what? Nothing else to see here? Let’s recap.

October 1st, 2017, the attack takes place. On October 2nd, 2017, it was reported that “prohibited” NFA firearms were found, then bump stocks (which were not prohibited at the time) were blamed, and the bump stock narrative runs wild in the media. According to the ATF, the firearms found on site were not fully inspected prior to the close of comments, and on March 26th, 2019, bump stocks are banned.

A lot of questions still need to be answered with this disclosure.

What if we had all the information we need about Vegas from the FBI and the ATF? And what if media outlets focused on giving us accurate news rather than propaganda designed to encourage support for gun control? I know, crazy thought, right?

The 2nd Amendment is not a privilege. It’s your right.
Dan Wos
Author – Good Gun Bad Guy
Host – The Loaded Mic


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linkman

This will go into the same category as the JFK assassination. We might never find out what REALLY happened.

Nam62

we might learn the truth about UFO’s before we get the truth from the Government!

Choogie

That’s because the government is the lie.

Rock

And THAT will only be when an ALIEN tells us, cause, as in all other questions we have, the Govenment NEVER will.

TGP389

If we do, we’ll have to learn it FROM UFOs. They’ll never quit lying to us.

Hazcat

There is no ‘might’ about it. We never will find out the truth. IMO that was obvious from day 1. This was a dirty operation that will be buried forever.

Choogie

Not really Hazcat. The truth has come out so many times about many incidents and people simply throw them on the dump pile claiming them to be conspiracy theory instead of doing the research to see if they are real. One of the best I know that does the research is Devvy Kidd. Look her up and follow her columns and you will see that she backs her theory up with many links to the truth in her articles.

CourageousLion

Sort of like many that I’ve had posted here: https://lewrockwell.com/author/mark-reynolds/
or here: https://courageouslion380.substack.com/

Boom

Is she fine?

Choogie

That may well be because People in general never look any further than their TV sets and the people that own the TV network organizations are or may well be tied to the NWO (NewWorldOrder). Secret society’s like Bilderberg’s and any number of other secret society’s that most people claim to be anything but real because they can’t see any further than the first curtain. If you don’t know what the first curtain is then you are one of those people.

CourageousLion

It’s NEWWORLDODOR!

Oldman

totally agree with you.

Boom

You have 24 upvotes to your comment. That’s pretty awesome.

Ope

Linkman, all these answers died when the government arranged to have Jack Ruby murder Oswald on live TV during the jail transfer. Until the day I die I will be absolutely convinced that LBJ was behind the assassination of President Kennedy.

Boom

Hey that’s absolutely right. He sure did. Dang, I guess other people know that too.

Ope

Boom, LBJ was a ruthless, power hungry SOB that privately despised JFK. He knew president Kennedy would easily win in ‘64 and didn’t want to wait until ‘68 to run for president. This assassination was his shortcut to the top.

Boom

Ope…, Yeah, but I wouldn’t say ‘privately’; I know he was quoted as saying– “well another week or so, I’m not going to have to worry about JFK anymore”…and in about a week, he was gone..

Poor fella.

gregs

isn’t batfe the agency that makes this type of determination on things violating the nfa? why was the fbi involved? why wasn’t batfe allowed to look at the firearms?
obviously the doj’s right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing.
perfect example of worthless government agencies doing nothing for Americans, and why they both need to be shuttered.

Ope

I guess the scum over at ATF think somehow they acquired legislative powers, ..,and the spineless RINO cowards don’t do a damn thing to stop it either.

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Ram

Apparently not all members of the ATF have received the necessary level of indoctrination as those members of the FBI.

Tionico

Don’t be fooled. The “right hand” very definitely know precisely what the “left hand’ is doing. And they play us for the fools they think we are, keeping us in the dark and feeding us horse puckey.

CourageousLion

DOJ’s right hand does know what the left hand is doing. It’s playing with Chairman Xidens deflated member. Trying to get a rise out of it.

billybob

The way the FBI has been withholding evidence and information in this case makes me think we have a subversive operation underway and the way the FBI withheld the weapons from BATFE examination also makes me think the FBI didn’t trust the available BATFE agents to go along with their Narrative of the actions!

Graham

Then there WAS police body cam videos on you tube a day or two after, more than one officer saying “multiple shooters”.

Idaho Bob

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I listened to a lot of audio after that incident. I have never been convinced that what I heard was the result of a bump stock.

musicman44mag

I’m right there with you. I heard multiple tones and sounds and timings that did not match the sound of one gun and an echo from it. There were multiple shooters. Remember the woman in front of the stage who was telling everyone they were going to die? If it were one shooter that had this evil plan then why did she know?

CourageousLion

There is no way in hell what I heard was a bump stock. HOWEVER, from my experience it sounded EXACTLY like an M249.

Roland T. Gunner

The first shot fired in Las Vegas killed Stephen Paddock.

CourageousLion

Most likely.

Brad

One big flag to me was when the fbi went to the suspects house . They did their investigation and left . Someone or someone’s broke in there .

My concern is , why was the house of one , if not the biggest ,mass shooters residence not secured for more than one night ? That is either corruption or gross negligence in my book . I know , it’s hard to Imagine the fbi not being on the up and up .

Oldman

Really? I think the FBi has never been on the up and up, EVER!

CourageousLion

That why they got the moniker “Untouchables” from.

Boom

I watch that show all the time.

Cobia

I do not know what happened in Las Vegas as far as weapons or limited information that was released BUT I have never seen a mass shooting where so little information was given out and an event where both the news media and LE pivoted immediately away from the story. Something definitely stinks and I am NOT tmuch of a conspiracy theorist but there was plenty that is being hidden for whatever reason.. My uneducated guess is that the person was CIA or something..dunno..

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DIYinSTL

Perp had an extremely good cover story if he was a government employee or under contract and no sane person would take on a suicide mission like this. I do agree that very little, if any, of this incident passes the smell test. Perhaps it is no more than an extreme case of TDS.

musicman44mag

It’s important that the people note that we were lied too. This shooting and everything about it was all over too fast. To many factors are iffy and too many witnesses confirm there were more than one shooter. The question is, which government agency is going to honestly review and penalize another? We see that not happening every day when it comes to republicans being penalized for what demonrats aren’t. With a government so corrupt how can We the People step in and do an investigation legally and without hinderance from our government coverup masters. We just watched a slanted… Read more »

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CourageousLion

“With a government so corrupt how can We the People step in and do an investigation legally and without hindrance from our government coverup masters.” The ONLY answer: https://courageouslion380.substack.com/p/those-forgotten-and-ignored-13-words-957

Orion

the las vegas pd released a detailed report on this, plenty of photos showing the weapons and brass scattered about his rooms. it available when you look.

Tionico

So we who thought we heard full auto fire from multiple locations were at least right about the first part, but our oh so trusted and noble EffBeeEye lied?

Imagine that.

Seems this would be solid ground from which to attack the entire process “illegalising” bump stocks. Since they knowingly withheld signficant evidence during the comment period they lied to us. Again. Still?

Agostino

A friend of mine in the security business told me he’d listened to the tapes of the shooting, and it was clearly fully automatic fire. A bump stock would have “hiccupped” occasionally, and this was smoothly continuous.

musicman44mag

In addition there was someone shooting controlled 5 round bursts. I have fired M16 in both 3 and 5 round bursts as well as full auto. I know how much practice it takes to do it perfect. There was a professional shooter in there and they were well trained and practiced to be able to do that and there was more than one shooter and one caliber being fired.

Oregoneistan

CourageousLion

They made 5 round burst M16’s?? When? And a full auto one is semi and full auto. It doesn’t have the option of bursts except from the shooter removing his finger from the trigger.

musicman44mag

I trained with the M16 in the Marine Corps and yes we would squeeze the trigger and release it so it would shoot only 3 or 5 rounds so we did not waste ammo. I also think it had a three round only option but I am not sure anymore it was so long ago.

Boom

M16A2/a3/a4 were 3-round burst. M4 was 3round..m4a1 is full auto…

Orion

the navy version of the 20″ A3/A4 had full auto capability, not burst.

Boom

I believe you’re mistaken.

Oldman

I was convinced when I heard the tape of a Taxi or uber driver had taken a hide and seek position about a block south of the incident under a roof and rolled up and down his window a few times so you could distinctly hear more than two weapons firing from different positions. One position was the Mandalay and the other was right on the roof under which he was hiding. Yup, just like 1963, except we now have so much more technology. All of the alphabet agencies need to be gone and replaced by the now totally corrupt… Read more »

Montana454Casull

Too get the truth we need to melt down those bump stocks and remold them as 24 inch dildoes and ram them up every member of the ATFs retactal port until they come out with the truth . Kinda like water boarding only different .

Ledesma

The bump stock concession was like all concessions to the liberal beast. It pleased nobody. But served as another small part of the American firearms story that is no longer permitted to exist.

CourageousLion

Miss information from those administering “government” and the media? NO WAY!

Laddyboy

The “law enforcer” NEVER allowed ANYONE to physically examine the weapons used by the SACRIFICIAL SHOOTER!!!

Tank

Never let a crisis go to waste. Manufactured or Organic. Perhaps one of the most botched False Flags ever perpetrated.

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Ram

I clearly remember that it was stated at the time, that there were
bumpstocks present but not utilized. In the aftermath I suggested
a security protocol to the LVMPD for use at outdoor events (and sniper engagements) using lasers, a blinded sniper loses his efficiency, plus
you are painting a target for a drone response.
Never heard back.

UncAl

Simply a “political hit job”!

musicman44mag

I believe you are right and it was done by the entrenched left that has stronghold of all our alphabet agencies.

TStheDeplorable

In the immediate aftermath, all the ATF had to go on was the audio recorded at the scene and witness statements that indicated that they came under “machine gun fire.” The truth is that a huge portion of the ATF is not expert at all on the nuances of firearms, and I believe that those who made the initial determination that the guns must have been “machine guns” were ignorant of bump stocks. Since then, LVMP and other Nevada authorities have had the firearms all fully inspected by competent experts, and the firearms were not “prohibited items” at the time,… Read more »

Tionico

Got the reports of the “careful inspections” done by city and state entities? This is the first I’ve heard of anyone besides FBI having control of the weapons. How can this be, as I’ve followed this “incident” pretty closely. Further I know the difference between full auto machine fire and other “rapid fire” means. What I heard, before those tapes got “disappeared” and the hundreds of confiscated mobil phones got wiped (WHY was this done, anyway? NO ONE got their phone returned to them with any of this left o it. WHY? WHO is hiding WHAT? I know one thing..… Read more »

Orion

so, all those LVPD on the scene conspired to cover up the massacre? lol.
you dont know what you dont know.

CourageousLion

I know how and what a bump stock makes a rifle work like. There is no way in hell what I heard was a guy running bump stocks. Every try it? NO WAY! I’d believe it was a Rare Breed trigger before I’d ever believe it was a bump stock. Except for one minor detail. I’ve handled an M249 and to ME it sounded EXACTLY like one of those.

PAF145

The weapons were probably provided to him ny Democrat operatives

Larry

This has a bad smell from the start! How’d he get all those weapons into his room undetected? Why haven’t we heard more about his charges and court appearances, or even his name? Call me a conspiracy nut if ya want, but I believe some of these “mass shootings” are staged by the government so as to push their gun control agenda. There’s too much kept hidden from the public not to mention each time one of these events takes place it’s during a gun control push by the Democrats!

Boom

Any station this net, any station this net; this is Bravo-Sierra, radio check; over

….That’s how you do that.

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Boom

OldVet…., Loud n clear… Or like these new hipsters like to say, Lima Charlie haha

KK

Vegas. Deep State black Op. Paddock was “The Dead Patsy In The Room” before the shooting started. How many “Mass Murderers” make a spectacle of themselves bringing a whole “GUN STORE” up to the room on boatloads of gondolas being brought up to the room on special freight elevators with hotel employee escorts? He was lured up to that room by operatives that were WAY OUT OF HIS LEAGUE under the guise that they wanted to BUY GUNS. Paddock was going up to SELL GUNS – NO PRESSURE. This was the first time the FBI denied ATF access to guns… Read more »

DIYinSTL

If you listen to the Las Vegas audio it is obvious that the rate of fire is too slow for automatic fire. It is surprising how adept the perpetrator is at maintaining bump fire. If Paddock had an unregistered SBR or SBS then he had illegally possessed NFA items which is a more plausible explanation.

Bigfootbob

I tend to agree with your assumption, I think the rule of Occam’s Razor makes the most sense. I haven’t heard the audio, I don’t waste my time watching any news related broadcasts and haven’t since 9/11/01. I have owned a bump stock on a .40 caliber Thureon Defense AR, a crappy gun I no longer have, and when rapid firing you are spraying ammo left, right and everyplace except center, and I shot a thousand rounds thru the thing and found the bump stock a novelty and it’s only worth was putting a smile on your face and a… Read more »

musicman44mag

Yes you could shoot down into the crowd and if you are really good you could be like this guy and get all head shots!!!! From over 100 yards!!! Ya RIGHT. Something stinks to high heaven about this whole thing.

Finnky

Where did you hear or read that he made “all head shots!!!!”? From what I’ve seen I thought it looked like mostly wounding hits, including many injured survivors. Plus of course the usual collection of stampede induced injuries. Note multiple chest hits can cause death very quickly, even if any one of those hits might be survivable with immediate trauma care. No one was running out to competently help the injured, saw no signs of tourniquets, chest seals or even gauze being employed on scene. Not blaming anyone as I generally am not carrying my trauma kit and would not… Read more »

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musicman44mag

I watched a video months ago by a female news correspondent on Ammoland that had interviews of people that were there. A few people commented that there were allot of head shots that were not from above put parallel to the ground and stated that there were more than one shooter.

Roverray

DIYinSTL. I’m not so sure about that. The audio sounded to me like a wore out M60, maybe a BAR on slow fire? The fire rate was too consistent to be a bumpstock.

Tionico

I saw a video of Jerry Miculek deonstrating a bump stock. He is one of the best of the best as far as trigger control. Even his best work the RoF was not all that even, certainly not what full auto fire was. If memory serves, he also had a full on machine gun which he also demonstrated. The audo tracks slowed down and compared made it clear the bump stock is a fun toy but not very useful, and almost certainly not actually used in the Las VEgas incident.

Deg4u

This is most likely a show to get bump stocks band. The reason for the cover up. Also, the reason for wiping of all the phones to keep anything getting out of their cover up.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion

Too slow? Not from what I heard. M249 came to mind immediately since I’ve been behind one.