Australian Police Killing used to Call for National Gun Registry

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Australian Police Killing used to Call for National Gun Registry

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- A bizarre police killing in a sparsely populated part of Queensland, about 170 miles northwest of Brisbane, Australia, happened on Monday, December 12. The accused police killers had all worked for the Queensland Department of Education. Two were brothers, Nathaniel and Gareth. Gareth was married to Stacy, who had been married to Nathaniel. Both Nathaniel and Stacy were school principals at one time. Gareth resigned from his school position in 2016, Nathaniel in 2020, and Stacey in December of 2021, reportedly because of the mandatory Covid vaccination policy. Both Nathaniel and Stacy were reported to be well-regarded in their schools before becoming radicalized.

Four officers were investigating the property on a “welfare check” requested by police in the neighboring state of New South Wales. The welfare check was instigated by a call from the estranged wife of Nathaniel Train. The three assailants were reported, in the Daily Mail, to be methamphetamine addicts. Meth is known to make people paranoid.  From dailymail.co.uk:

It is understood Constable Rachel McCrow, 29, and Constable Matthew Arnold, 26, arrived in the first vehicle, and met up with a second car containing Constable Keely Brough and Constable Randall Kirk, both aged 28, before approaching the property.

McCrow and Arnold then honked their horn to alert the residents of their presence. When there was no movement from inside the house, the four officers got out of their cars and jumped over the locked fence.

Seconds later, a shower of bullets descended on the four officers, believed to have been fired by Nathaniel and Gareth Train and Gareth’s wife Stacey….

On Tuesday, Daily Mail Australia revealed the Trains had spent years fortifying the wooden home into a makeshift bunker to try to fend off an assault by police which they had long anticipated.

They had also been bingeing on methamphetamine, with Gareth posting increasingly bizarre conspiracy theories online that claimed the 1996 Port Arthur massacre was a military operation and Princess Diana was killed as a ‘blood sacrifice’.

After the initial killing, the Train trio posted a video online claiming the police came to kill them, and they killed the police instead.  From theguardian.com:

After ambushing police officers with a hail of bullets, Stacey and Gareth Train huddled together in the dark at their remote Queensland property and recorded a video.

“They came to kill us and we killed them,” Gareth said in the video, uploaded on Monday night and still circulating online.

“If you don’t defend yourself against these devils and demons, you’re a coward.”

Devils and demons are descriptions often used by methamphetamine addicts when involved in violent crimes in the United States. The Guardian article mentions several Christian end-of-times references as well. In the Guardian article, the Trains claim several previous “welfare checks” and harassment by authorities.

The Premier of Queensland, Australia, Annastacia Palaszczuk. has used the incident to call for a national gun registry. Palaszczuk has been the leftist labor party PM in Queensland since 2015. From abc.net.au news:

Ms Palaszczuk echoed her comments, saying a national register should be discussed at national cabinet.

“Anything we can do to tighten gun laws in this country would be a good thing,” she said.

Australia has some of the strictest gun laws in the world. The laws vary by state but conform to a set of national standards. The standards were agreed to by the Australian states in the rush to pass draconian gun restrictions after the Port Arthur mass killing in 1996. The extreme gun laws have had little effect on homicide or suicide levels. Mass killings have occurred after the 1997 laws were implemented. From news.com.au:

National cabinet will consider options to better regulate gun ownership in Australia in the wake of two police officers and a bystander being killed in Queensland, the Prime Minister has announced.

The rush to use the killing of young police officers to impose even more restrictive gun measures seems well supported in the Australian media.

How a national gun registry could have prevented these police deaths is far from clear.  Firearms possession is not uncommon in rural Australia.


About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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swmft

the government cant say people dont trust them so they defend themselves as they see need

gregs

estranged wife, alleged meth addicts, no toxicology report? sounds like a swatting and cover-up to me. if the police have nothing to hide why not co-operate and provide ALL information?

Rowboat

Two squad cars and at least 4 officers for a “routine welfare check “? Doesn’t compute. In my LEO career I’ve done dozens of welfare checks, mainly for elderly people and never more officers then me alone. What was the Reasonable Suspicion that a welfare check was needed at all ?

TGP389

I can see it happening if she mentioned they were dangerous. Otherwise, no.

Link

So you live in Australia??
If not then what you have done in your own country does not matter much, while things can be similar that does not make them the same.

In that part of the country side the cops sometimes are looking for any reason to get out of the office.
That part was pointed out in another website by a Australia resident.

TGP389

Based on their performance during the plandemic, his description of the police as “demons” was not far from the mark. This, coming from a retired police officer. There is no excuse for treating your countrymen like you were an occupying force.

Rowboat

Australia and New Zealand are well down the road to being police states.
They were the first, to my knowledge to implement the CCC ( Covid Concentration Camps ) and a National Turn In Your Guns scheme.
A graphic example of a country that doesn’t have a 2nd Amendment.

Hazcat

Dean, Why are you using this type of language “ before becoming radicalized.”? Also notice that an ‘estranged’ wife was the instigator here, and she lives in a different state and that the ‘welfare check’ was at the request of POLICE from that other state to the police of that eventually performed the check. Also note that to perform the ‘welfare check’ the police had to jump a locked fence. Why did they feel the need to do this? Simply because the people in the house chose not to respond or answer their calls. Bottom line is the whole thing could… Read more »

Rowboat

Agreed, there are to many questions to pass the sniff test .
Just replace the words “ police “
with Gestopo, and read it again !

shinyo

almost sounds like Wako

Link

Welfare check requirements are to get close enough to hear if someone might be calling for help or to look through a window and see if there are bodies on the floor.
Things you can’t do from yards away.

You don’t have a clue.

musicman44mag

Maybe if Australia had the same law as America where it is illegal to have guns and be a drug user, this would have never happened just like it never does here because we all know that criminals follow the law.

Having the guns registered shouldn’t have made a difference. The reason why is because not everyone will register everything and home made guns are a dime a dozen.

gregs

they did until port arthur, now it is illegal to have a firearm, forget about drugs. global elites want everyone except themselves disarmed as to be easier to control/enslave.

TGP389

We all know that you can’t be up to mischief with a registered firearm. Registration also makes it so much easier to collect them in a month or two.

Wass

One needn’t reach to down under Australia to view the impracticality of gun control. Our neighbor Mexico is stricter in regard to guns for their citizens than Australia; and we know how effective that’s been to violent crime.

Stag

I don’t have any sympathy for scumbags who enforce arms laws and throw people into concentration camps and that’s exactly what the government thugs in Australia have been doing so it sounds like tyrants got exactly what they deserved.

KK

. . . if I only had a registry . . . I could confiscate every gun I choose, whenever I choose to confiscate it.

shinyo

hey dean you are an ignorant goober, because they didn’t want to get the poisoness jab they are radicals, oh wow i guess me and all my friends are radicals. wake up goober millions of people are dying and being harmed by the poisoness jab every day and there will be millions more. thanks to gates and his cronies. my goober brother told me one day while on the phone with him the whole family got civid, oh wow they all got the fab and boosters, but they all got covid, real good vaccine. wake up

Link

Can you make up more stuff that was not in the article??

Just wondering how much dumber you can go.