ATF Open Letter: Machinegun Dealer Sales Samples

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Washington, DC – -( This afternoon, ATF released an Open Letter to all FFLs regarding the transfer of a machinegun to a qualified dealer as a sales sample.

Below is the message from ATF:

The attached open letter to the FFL community is to advise them on the restrictions and parameters of 18 U.S.C. § 922(o), which generally prohibits the possession or transfer of machineguns imported or manufactured after May 19, 1986, with limited exceptions. Federal regulation, 27 CFR 479.105(d), permits the transfer of a machinegun that is restricted by 18 U.S.C. § 922(o) to a qualified dealer as a sales sample. The application to transfer a restricted machinegun to a qualified dealer must include a letter from a government entity that requests the demonstration of the machinegun (i.e., a “law letter”). When ATF receives a legally insufficient law letter, it results in the delay of the transfer or importation of the machinegun and the demonstration of the machinegun to the interested governmental customer. The purpose of this open letter is to reiterate what information should be included in the law letter, thereby facilitating the transfer or importation of the machinegun and reduce the possible delay or denial of the transfer or import application.

Prior to approving either the application to transfer or application to import a post-86 machinegun as a sales sample, ATF needs to be satisfied that the accompanying law letter is a bona fide expression of the government entity’s interest in purchasing the machinegun requested.

As part of the application review process, ATF will now verify the validity of every law letter submission with each government entity point of contact. ATF may also contact the government entity signatory to confirm the authority of the official, the validity of the official’s signature, and/or the validity of the supporting documentation.

ATF will soon release an ATF Form that can be used as an alternative to a law letter drafted by a potential government customer. The ATF Form law letter is intended to reduce processing times and to ensure ATF has the required information when processing these applications. Until then, please use the guidance in this open letter when submitting law letters to avoid delays in processing your application to transfer or import a post-86 machinegun as a sales sample.

ATF Open Letter Machinegun Dealer Sales Samples 2023

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives

ATF is the federal law enforcement agency responsible for investigating violations of the federal firearms and explosives laws and regulations. More information about ATF and its programs can be found at

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Publish their home addresses


Jgalt… AND their Social Security Numbers , Like they did Kristi Noem and family !!!
Fight Fire with Fire !!!

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Roland T. Gunner

Call them out and shame them in public, along with their friends, wives and children.


We the People are to have parity of arms with the federal and state governments. That is the purpose of the 2nd amendment, which prohibits the government and individuals from infringing on a citizens’ right to arms. Said governments have no legitimate authority to regulate, limit or restrict a citizen’s choice of armament, nor their possession, ownership or use of any firearm, unless the weapon is used to harm another or threaten harm.


“An armed society is a polite society.”
Robert Heinlein


I think this one that I wrote really gets to the core of the issue.. WHY THE MILTIA…

Roland T. Gunner

It boggles my mind that my 80 year old, 10 pound, amtique M1A1 example of ordnance steel and walnut leaning in the corner of my gun closet is considered such an existential threat to soccer moms, their sissified husbands and worthless spawn


Agreed accept for the worthless spawn part. Since they are already to the effect of not liking authority, they may grow up to be 2A or Pro gun supporters, and possibly become a 2a Attorneys defending our Constitutional 2nd Amendment rights or just like firearms in general. either way those worthless kids could be a good thing. say what you will about parents wife’s husband whatever but please leave kids out of it.

Roland T. Gunner

Sorry, after being raised by those parents, I’m not optimistic.


the first sentence of the “Legal Background” is hilarious. we government agents, and only we are allowed to have fully auto modern firearms, “a.k.a. the only ones”. then begrudgingly, they say, “well if you follow our strict orders and obey everything exactly to the letter of the law, we will allow you do do what we do.”
this dysfunction and elitism is why a huge majority of citizens hate government.
with anarchy you know what you get. with governments, uncertainty at best.


The government that governs the least is the government the governs the best.

Deplorable Bill

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of the free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”, the second amendment to the United State’s constitution, THE law of the land. This law literally says that the government shall not infringe on any free American citizen’s right to keep and bear arms, anything that a militia might use to include fully automatic firearms, cannon, explosives, aircraft, watercraft, “any other weapons” etc. Thus, this act and every act that does anything whatsoever to infringe upon this right is, in fact, illegal under… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

I read it, it’s right

Arm up and carry on

Roland T. Gunner

Off topic, but if I was really rich, I would have a yacht, something fast, in the 50-60 foot range; and I would arm it.

Even if that meant only Barret semiauto rifles and a row of Napoleon replicas down either side.

Though a couple of Bofors would be nice.


Roland, a couple of Barrett semi 50cals., and a couple very qualified operators would be ideal for a yacht the size you’re speaking about. Playing $200 in mega millions tickets for $1.5BIk. tonight. Maybe we can get a fleet of those boats you’re talking about.

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RTG… I always thought I would like to retro fit a PT Boat !

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FATF will probably tell you can’t have a PT.


Bubba… They would not like the way I outfitted it , for sure !


Bubba, telling me I can’t have something will make me laser focused on proving I can. It’s perfectly legal for law-abiding citizens to own and operate military grade weapon systems.


I am now reading “Common Sense” by Thomas Paine. The words there from 1776, are very relevant to the situation here, this day. Until this reading I did not realize how many years the young America suffered from the untoward actions of our “friends” in Brittan. The agony of the slow death of our rights then now sinks in as I realize how long we have been discussing these 2nd Amendment rights on the many pages of our 1st Amendment rights here and now. Is the ATF the General Gage of today? What do we do with the Loyalists? Do… Read more »


Read this as I do believe that this one and another I did posted above about the forgotten and ignored 13 words hit on the subject.


Just read it. Very good. And yes, that was then, and now we again have a “multitude of officers that have been sent out to harass our people and eat out their substance” (from the Declaration of Independence). The people are the Militia and they are necessary to address our current crop of over-reaching government problems. Today, though, we need not limit ourselves to flintlock pistols, as we have “Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range” (from the Terminator movie) and all the weapons of war which our government has developed to control those who contest it’s authority.

Roland T. Gunner

Cutting, and painful.


I love how our perceived overlords are allowed to have these weapons but us lowly peasants are prohibited unless of course we are very wealthy and jump through all their hoops. Now just imagine if some governor somewhere would reinstate the first 13 words of the second amendment and start a real honest to goodness state militia. I wonder how the ATF would deal with that one if the government of the state wanted all of the militia members armed with M4’s? Can ANYONE besides me see the value of getting those forgotten and ignored 13 words back in force… Read more »


The ATFE needs a trip to the wood shed to get them lined out!


More like a trip to the woodchipper.



Roland T. Gunner

My thought zactly.

Roland T. Gunner

“Protecting the public”? That’s rich. Does the average T-shirt, trucker har wearing specisl agent realize just how loathed and despised he is?

We really need to hold our represenrative’a feet to the fire in making ATF go away.


Protecting Americans? Bovine Scatology!!! The ‘atf/aft’ does nothing but HINDER and HARASS Legal Law Abiding American Citizens! According to OUR American Constitution, Americans CAN OWN MILITARY arms and equipment! Time to get the ‘atf/aft’ bureaucracy CLOSED DOWN, DEFUNDED, DISMISSED, DISMANTELED and THROWN OUT — along with ALL of their ILLEGALLY INSTITUTED Rules and Regulations that go beyond their purview and “authority” !!


BAN the ATF. Valentines day is approaching!!!


So now the ATF will be more thorough in denying high class weapons to corrupt police chiefs, but leave those chiefs in their positions, all the while overlooking and denying their own corruption ? !





Dubi Loo

Unless of course your a corrupt police chief.


It’s entirely possible that the yahoo sheriff in Louisiana precipitated this crackdown, as I predicted when the news broke. Though it could already have been underway the moment Director Doodlebug took charge of the ATF


You must be thinking of another person. I swear he is Director Dingleberry. ATF the Agency To Fuckya.

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