Dozens of hospital and healthcare executives converged on New York City for a conference to discuss their role as “leaders” in reducing criminal misuse of firearms.
Criminal misuse of firearms isn’t a public health issue nor should it be addressed as such. It’s a criminal issue caused by individuals breaking the law. These health professionals should have instead listened closer to the keynote kickoff speaker, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Director Steven Dettelbach’s remarks.
Misfire from the Start
“Gun violence is a public health crisis. The responsibility falls on the shoulders of the decision makers of our nation’s health systems and hospitals to change the narrative on gun safety and pursue solutions that will make a meaningful difference,” Northwell Health President and CEO Michael Dowling, the forum’s moderator, told attendees.
Dowling isn’t a doctor, nor is he a prosecutor. His background is that of a career bureaucrat, former professor of social policy and an “influential voice” who is “taking a stand on societal issues such as gun violence.” He gained attention a few years ago with a public “call to action” urging healthcare providers to support gun control. Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership rejected Dowling’s argument, saying, “Firearms are not a public health issue.” The DRGO website instead stated responsible gun ownership has been shown to benefit the public health by preventing violent crime.
With Dowling leading the forum, it was obvious where the conversations would lead.
Wrong Diagnosis. Wrong Prescription
ATF Director Steven Dettelbach provided opening remarks. He thanked the group for their work and agreed with Dowling that “now is the time to fight,” but the director’s remarks had a notable focus that was missed in most all other discussion – the crime factor. Director Dettelbach highlighted a new report by ATF.
“The updated volume analyzes specifically America’s crime gun data,” Director Dettelbach said. “It provides more information on America’s crime guns – those are the guns used in and associated with crime.”
Director Dettelbach touched on one aspect of the report. “Over the five-year period the report covers, from 2017 to 2021, there were more than 1 million guns stolen from private individuals…,” he said. “Law-abiding gun owners don’t want their firearms stolen and they certainly don’t want them stolen and used in violent crime. Nobody breaks into a car and steals a gun to go hunting.”
While spiking crime has been a concerning issue in cities across the country, including New York City, there was no mention of proven firearm industry partnerships with ATF that have resulted in the low numbers of unintended firearm injuries and deaths since data was first recorded in 1903.
Regardless, a physician or medical doctor is not needed to determine that stealing a firearm is a crime.
Grandstanding Governor
No “gun violence prevention forum” in New York would be complete without New York Gov. Kathy Hochul bragging about her own crusade to push through even more restrictive gun control. She praised the forum with little mention of the crime problem in her state’s largest cities and the criminals who continue to wreak havoc on New Yorkers. That includes a shooting on the subway a few weeks ago.
“Hopefully this important discussion will lead to changes back in your states,” the governor said.
She explained her efforts to pass more gun control following the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to strike down New York’s century-old restrictive and subjective concealed carry law in its Bruen decision.
During oral arguments of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito highlighted his public safety concerns with the existing law and explicitly asked, “How many illegal guns were seized by the New York Police Department last year? All these people with illegal guns, they’re on the subway, they’re walking around the streets. But the ordinary, hard-working, law-abiding people I mentioned, no, they can’t be armed?”
Post-Bruen, the public health situation in New York is better. Despite hyperbolic warnings over the Bruen decision by Gov. Hochul and gun control allies, early data shows an improving situation. In a report from City & State New York, the findings were ignored by Gov. Hochul. “A little more than half a year later, the spate of crime implied by those foreboding prognoses has not yet occurred,” the report stated. “And indeed, not only has New York avoided the wave of gun violence envisioned by some, but to the contrary, shootings are actually down.”
‘Scientists’ Not Following the Science
Late last year, a report from The Reload revealed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) purposefully omitted important data after being lobbied by gun control groups. It confirms suspicions Americans have towards a government-funded health agency instituting policy that’s not rooted in science, that would also restrict Constitutional rights.
When “gun violence” is proclaimed to be a public health issue, which Americans have a history of opposing, it is rightly assumed that the federal government would use taxpayer funding to push an agenda based on gun control propaganda – which is illegal – rather than holding criminals accountable for their crimes.
Dowling’s forum participants came with their minds already made up for more gun control. Criminals should be the focus of policies to reduce intentional criminal gun misuse. Pushing gun control under the guise of “public health” is malpractice.
About The National Shooting Sports Foundation
NSSF is the trade association for the firearm industry. Its mission is to promote, protect and preserve hunting and shooting sports. Formed in 1961, NSSF has a membership of thousands of manufacturers, distributors, firearm retailers, shooting ranges, sportsmen’s organizations, and publishers nationwide. For more information, visit nssf.org
1- no such thing as gun violence. 2- doctors have zero impact on criminals using guns in crime. 3- fewer deaths per 100,000 today than 100 years ago from guns, even though we have 300 million more guns than we did then. Guns are not an issue, and we won’t let anyone impact what we own, buy, possess and use.
Between 250,000 and 400,000 people die every year due to physician error or indifference.
a professor of social policy and influencer is running a health care system? doesn’t sound legitimate. but that sounds about as legitimate as doctors saying firearms are a public health issue/crisis. these so called scientists ignore the real science of research and data to make hyperbolic statements to scare people into giving up their rights and forcing others to do the same. do you know that more people die every year from medical mistakes than firearms? don’t believe me, check it out for yourself. i was a healthcare professional. maybe they should take that log out of their own eye… Read more »
Remember, THIS is who is head of the U.S.’ Department of Health and Human Services.
Thanks much for that sobering reminder. The fact that this is the kind of human fecal matter foisted upon us by our well paid for politicians!
Yep
NO SUCH THING AS “GUN VIOLENCE”!! The IDIOT who DREAMED UP this FELICITOUS phrase IS VIOLENT against the American Constitution and EVERY American Citizen. INANIMATE OBJECTS(WHATEVER) can do NOTHING without a BREATHING BEING! Therefore, VIOLENCE IS A ACTION COMMITTED BY PEOPLE OR APES(whichever applies). VIOLENT people are a LAW PROBLEM, NOT A HEALTH PROBLEM!
Ban IiberaIs.
I agree, but what about the constitution? It would be really easy to march them damn dimwits up to the open trenches and use one round of .556 to the back of the head. Whoops, maybe we should use .223..it is cheaper. I don’t think that would be gun violence….more like just plain violence in the name of constitutional protection against stupidity.
WTF? Who inserted that stock photo into this story? Who cares what that mendacious reprobate loser communist Terry McAuliffe wanted to do? Glenn Youngkin is Virginia’s governor. Doctors have been trying this crap at least since the mid eighties. Once my oldest daughters doctor started asking questions about guns during her 4th or 5th grade physical exam. Needless to say we stopped the exam and found another doctor. They never quit, and now they’ve had decades to mold our children’s little minds behind our backs, the kids are now brainwashed and more susceptible to manipulation than my generation. We continue… Read more »
“firearm industry partnerships with ATF” That statement is why I will never support or trust NSSF.
You ever hear the term, “Keep your enemies close”? That is so you know what they are up too. That may what applies here.
As I routinely tell me son “The Doc,” doctors need to stay in their own lane….quit swerving wildly into oncoming traffic. Eight years of education doesn’t qualify one to pontificate profusely about what one knows nothing.
I was just wondering if this same bunch of clowns at the ATF were part of Eric Holder’s fast and furious that gave guns to criminals in Mexico and are the 2 recent kidnapping deaths tied to those illegal guns ?
No such thing as ” gun violence” and Dowling is an unqualified idiot who’s opinion is complete BS .
Getting gun safety and crime prevention advice from doctors is like asking the Pope for sex advice.
I’m willing to bet that there are quite a few alter bois that would shudder at this statement.
I’m reminded of the time I was working in the ER at night. Word came in that we might have some armed trouble coming in. One of the ER docs retrieved his 1911 from his car, just in case.
In their article is reference to CDC no longer reporting on guns used in Self defense. I think that’s a violation of the federal law known as the Dickey Amendment. Just another example of our federal government being weaponized against law abiding citizens. I hope someone else points this out to Congressman Jim Jordan-I plan too
Let’s all play LET’S PRETEND!!! https://courageouslion380.substack.com/p/lets-play-lets-pretend
There is no discussion.
Stats, opinions, feelings, political decrees.
WE WILL NOT SURRENDER OUR 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHT TO EFFECTIVE ARMS!
The 2nd Amendment is a mechanism in place to ENABLE THE CAPABILITY of American citizens to ENFORCE THE KEEPING OF THEIR FREEDOMS AND SECURITY!
It is a safeguard against tyrants, NOT an allowance from tyrants, to be taken at their whim as soon as they have the urge to subjugate the citizenry.
I do not give one crap what atf’s partner has to say.
Doctor: “Do you have a gun in your home?”
Me: “I have a gun in your office.”
The CDC stepped way out of their lane and their mandate when they declared guns were a Public Health Issue. They should have been shut down right then and there. Criminal Use of Firearms is and always will be a Prosecutorial/Consequences Problem. Liberals have and continue to undermine the Consequence Solutions that were passed by Law for Criminals that use Firearms to commit their crimes. Until we return to swift justice for the Perps, society’s problems will only worsen. Make a Fast Track for Executions. Stop the endless appeals. One appeal to the State Supreme Court (completely ditch the Appelate… Read more »
Albeit many of us wish we would return to that swift justice arena, however, with the lackadaisical, weak and outright piss-poor detective work in many cases and the prosecutorial errors made in MANY cases that get so many people wrongfully convicted, we need that extra time and latitude to sort things out in a true interest of justice, Otherwise we wouldn’t have such a high rate of convictions being overturned by groups such as the https://www.innocenceproject.org/ due to the sloppy and often times illegal practices of prosecutors, lawyers, judges, forensics, “experts”, etc. who truly SHOULD face these hasher and immediate… Read more »