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Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, & It’s NOT Weapons

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Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years, and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common, and its not the weapons used.

The overwhelming evidence points to the signal largest common factor in all of these incidents is the fact that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes.

Multiple credible scientific studies going back more then a decade, as well as internal documents from certain pharmaceutical companies that suppressed the information show that SSRI drugs ( Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors ) have well known, but unreported side effects, including but not limited to suicide and other violent behavior. One need only Google relevant key words or phrases to see for themselves. www.ssristories.com is one popular site that has documented over 4500 “ Mainstream Media “ reported cases from around the World of aberrant or violent behavior by those taking these powerful drugs.

The following list of mass shooting perpetrators and the drugs they were taking or had been taking shortly before their horrific actions was compiled and published to Facebook by John Noveske, founder and owner of Noveske Rifleworks just days before he was mysteriously killed in a single car accident. Is there a link between Noveske’s death and his “outting” of information numerous disparate parties would prefer to suppress, for a variety of reasons ?

I leave that to the individual readers to decide. But there is most certainly a documented history of people who “knew to much” or were considered a “threat” dying under extraordinarily suspicious circumstances.

From Katherine Smith, a Tennessee DMV worker who was somehow involved with several 9/11 hijackers obtaining Tennessee Drivers Licenses, and was later found burned to death in her car, to Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Gary Webb, who exposed a CIA Operation in the 80′s that resulted in the flooding of LA Streets with crack cocaine and was later found dead from two gunshot wounds to the head, but was officially ruled as a “suicide“, to Frank Olson, a senior research micro biologist who was working on the CIA’s mind control research program MKULTRA.

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After Olson expressed his desire to leave the program, he was with a CIA agent in a New York hotel room, and is alleged to have committed “suicide” by throwing himself off the tenth floor balcony. In 1994, Olson’s sons were successful in their efforts to have their fathers body exhumed and re examined in a second autopsy by James Starrs, Professor of Law and Forensic science at the National Law Center at George Washington University. Starr’s team concluded that the blunt force trauma to the head and injury to the chest had not occurred during the fall but most likely in the room before the fall. The evidence was called “rankly and starkly suggestive of homicide.” Based on his findings, in 1996 the Manhattan District Attorney opened a homicide investigation into Olson’s death, but was unable to find enough evidence to bring charges.

As I said, I leave it to the individual readers to make up their own minds if Noveske suffered a similar fate. On to the list of mass shooters and the stark link to psychotropic drugs.

  • Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
  • Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
  • Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
  • Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
  • Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
  • Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
  • Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
  • Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
  • A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
  • Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
  • A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
  • Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
  • TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
  • Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
  • James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
  • Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
  • Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
  • Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
  • Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
  • Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
  • Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
  • Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
  • Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
  • Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
  • Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
  • Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
  • Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
  • (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
  • Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
  • Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
  • Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
  • Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
  • A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
  • Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
  • Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
  • Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
  • Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
  • Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
  • Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
  • New York high school.

Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….

  • What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
  • What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
  • What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
  • What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct

Those focusing on further firearms bans or magazine restrictions are clearly focusing on the wrong issue and asking the wrong questions, either as a deliberate attempt to hide these links, or out of complete and utter ignorance.

Don’t let them! Force our elected “representatives” and the media to cast a harsh spotlight on this issue. Don’t stop hounding them until they do.

About Dan Roberts
Dan Roberts is a grassroots supporter of gun rights that has chosen AmmoLand Shooting Sports News as the perfect outlet for his frank, ‘Jersey Attitude’ filled articles on Guns and Gun Owner Rights.As a resident of the oppressive state of New Jersey he is well placed to be able to discuss the abuses of government against our inalienable rights to keep and bear arms as he writes from deep behind NJ’s Anti-Gun iron curtain. Read more from Dan Roberts or email him at DRoberts@ammoland.com You can also find him on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dan.roberts.18

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  • 94 User comments to “Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, & It’s NOT Weapons”

    1. Pantera Vazquez on April 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM said:

      What is needed is for policymakers to see the correlation between the use of mood controlling or anti psychotic drugs and violence. Sadly the myopic fixation on the inanimate implement as opposed to the causes of violence are the stock and trade of the anti-2a types.

    2. Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common on April 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM said:

      [...] Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, & It's NOT Weapons Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years, and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common, and its not the weapons used. The overwhelming evidence points to the signal largest common factor in all of these incidents is the fact that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes. Reply With Quote [...]

    3. Dan, you’re paranoid (watch your back!) and your article is completely misleading, if not an outright lie.

      You write “nearly every mass shooting”, but from this list off mass shootings (http://www.nycrimecommission.org/initiative1-shootings.php), only three cases appear on your list. Of course you would imply that all those cases might involve drugs as well. Yeah, they might.

      And, most of the cases on your list are not mass shootings at all, but suicides, stand-offs and 1-on-1 shootings. So your title is misleading and your main claims are misleading, untrue.

      You list some 70-80 drug+gun related deaths since 1998. Your list of drug-related deaths totally pales in comparison to the more than 140.000 people that were murdered with a gun since then. And it pales by the more than 300.000 people that committed suicide with a gun since then.

      Probably there is a higher risk of killing people when on certain drugs, but you’re not proving that, at all. Your intent is to proof that drugs are a bigger factor in killings than guns. Total nonsense. You imply having a gun does not increase the risk of shooting people. Are you sure?

      Stop misleading.

    4. Bill Baker on April 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM said:

      Bill Baker, age 38, prescribed Trazodone for insomnia. Immediately suffered night terrors and suicidal depression but was taken off within 48 hours. Night terrors and depression immediately went away.
      Now age 43

    5. You know your getting uncomfortably close to the truth when people like Havana comment !

    6. Havana on April 1, 2013 at 1:41 PM said:

      Get to the point, Dan. What is the truth you’re getting so close to? That “Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares The Involvement of Drugs”? Why, then, do you include in your list of “mass shooters” so many unrelated suicides, stand-offs, hostage takings and 1-on-1 killings? That doesn’t help to proof your ‘truth’, just makes the list and your article a blurry rant.

      Probably a list just as long, or longer, could be compiled of (mass) shootings that would NOT have occurred had the shooters been on the proper drugs (or had the shooters not so easily gotten a gun).

      Keep on feeding the fear, Dan.

    7. At my editor’s request this will be my last comment on this matter, as much as I would like to say more, my job is to report, not engage in a debate. That being said,there are far more then only three incidents of “mass shootings” as defined by Anti Gun Groups and the FBI on the list contained in my column. Further, its notable, but not surprising in the least that you choose to lump in all people murdered by guns to arrive at your number of 140,000, without breaking down the fact that the vast majority of those murders are in fact criminal on criminal acts, and hardly the “innocent victims” you attempt to paint them as.

    8. John C on April 1, 2013 at 5:08 PM said:

      More on violence and antidepressant drugs at http://dietadvisor.com/papers_letters_antidepressants.htm

    9. Huapakechi on April 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM said:

      There’s more links to ssri medications and violent behavior than there is between CO2 and global warming.

    10. JayCee on April 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM said:

      Picking on the pharmacutical companies can be dangerous to your health. They are the largest legal organized crime industry in our country.
      Turn on TV, they are one of the select few that can still afford to run commercials.

    11. I like the name “Havana” for the person commenting here. Communist government agents posting here are still incapable of hiding their true identity, using the capital of Cuba as a pen name. Brilliant! I agree with the editor, the journalist need not engage in an open ended debate with a propagandist that believes in totalitarian control.

    12. Huapakechi on April 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM said:

      No edit function on these comments. Continuing: If you happen to read the list of cautions and adverse effects included in every prescription, you will see that these medications (SSRI) can cause or exacerbate the very behaviors they are prescribed to treat.

    13. BillCa on April 1, 2013 at 5:02 PM said:

      @Havana – It is true that the majority of the mass shooters were under some form of psychiatric care, drugs or had recently stopped taking their drugs. The SSRIstories.com listing shows both single and multiple homicides, plus suicides of people taking these drugs. Again, the vast majority of these mass shooters are psychiatric patients taking drugs like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Lithium, et al. It isn’t lying or misleading to point out commonality.

      This issue deserves investigation. SSRI’s are widely prescribed and over-prescribed while therapy is cut to a bare minimum by insurance providers. There are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake to the drug companies.

      Feinstein publicly declared weapons were “the” common denominator, ignoring not only the drug angle, but the Gun-Free-Zone issue too. She lied by omitting other known common traits.

    14. BillCa on April 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM said:

      @Havana – Automobiles kill almost three times the number of people as do firearms. The number who die by poison or toxic materials is also three times higher. Why no outcry? Or is it that your hatred of guns blinds you?

      The presence of a firearm is not a predictor of homicide. If your anti-gun cronies were correct that the mere presence of a gun leads to more homicides the numbers would be 10 to 100 times higher. But homicide rates have been dropping since 1993. Today they are at about 1972 levels, still twice the rate BEFORE gun control was enacted in 1968. And in the last 25 years, we’ve added over 120 Million guns (excluding exports)(ATF data).

      So if all these guns predicted homicides, why are the rates falling? It’s not because of “gun control”. The homicide rates don’t decline significantly faster after enactment of any gun control laws. Thus, gun control is not effective at managing homicide rates (or violent crime rates). Thus the concept that more guns means more crime doesn’t wash either. We have 120 million more guns and less crime today. How do you explain that?

    15. Bill Baker on April 1, 2013 at 5:55 PM said:

      What lefties like Havana always trot out is that you can’t have gun violence without guns. You also can’t have heart attacks without hearts, but neither of those statements has any impact on the problem. Take away the guns, people will still do evil things, like they did for a long time before the invention of guns, but the anti-gunners only can see one thing at a time, and should probably avoid bubblegum and walking, as you know that falling down generally involves getting up from the couch.

    16. Dave F on April 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM said:

      The time is near when all the poor souls who hate us “gun nuts” are going to be damn glad we are here!!

    17. [...] Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, & It’s NOT Weapons [...]

    18. Bill r on April 1, 2013 at 6:27 PM said:

      You other factor they all share. They or their parents were all democrats

    19. Carroll Childers on April 1, 2013 at 7:30 PM said:

      When I initially read the header to this article “shooting shares one thing in common” I thought the answer was going to be “they have all been done by Democrats because there is a similar presentation circulating describing various shootings and how the shooter was connected to the Democratic Party.

    20. Cog In The Machine on April 1, 2013 at 9:38 PM said:

      I’m pretty sure “mass shootings” must indeed have “weapons” in common, otherwise they wouldn’t be shootings. In order to have a “shooting” must we not have an implement with which to “shoot”?

    21. CIG,

      Were the weapons used in all the incidents the same ? Nope, not even close, other then the fact that they were all firearms. Some were pistols, some shotguns, some rifles. So no, the biggest common factor wasnt the weapons used, hence, the common factor is the psychotropic drugs

    22. I do not dispute the fact that psychiatric medicine can induce such behaviour. I take some meds for depression and believe me, it helps. BUT, we must keep in mind that there is guidelines to taking such meds, and the side effects of suicide tendencies, etc are definitely real. That is why such patients are to be monitored closely to establish which side effects are present. As such, it is partly the fault of the doctor and the patient. You can also take the analogy of prescribing antibiotics for every ache and pain, and in the end all the bugs are restant to the antibiotics… Thus, in my opinion, it is recless to just say SSRI’s cause such behaviour and it must be banned. AS with all things in life, get perspective on the issue and solve the problem, not blame meds or guns or co2 just because it is part of the symptoms. Causality over correlation must rule…

    23. eagle275 on April 2, 2013 at 6:49 AM said:

      Havana, do you smoke Cuban cigars, are you from Havana, or what? Just curious, that ADHD of yours is really acting up. Did you just stop talking your Haldol and Lithium,eh.

    24. eagle275 on April 2, 2013 at 6:50 AM said:

      BTW Havana – did you name yourself that to complete your fantasy of Bill Clinton play cigar tricks with you,eh.

    25. Becker on April 2, 2013 at 8:14 AM said:

      140,000 and such figures are way too high. I think this was just grabber out of the air by whom ever the information came from. I know of most of these drugs and they don’t make people violent. These people are doing these things for the high they get for the fame the cops and new media gives them. Cheap fast fame. Once their names and pictures are out there, they will be famous for all time. Our society places too much value on being famous like the Hollywood crowd. Who wants to act like a child forever? Screw fame, give me the money.

    26. Big pharmaceutical companies pay MILLIONS if not BILLIONS to politicians, Dr’s and “others” to keep their POISONS flowing into society. And the SHEEPLE go right along with it, because if their Dr recommends it it MUST be “the answer.” They do not realize that their Dr’s are getting incentives to prescribe the poison, the FDA is being circumvented to get the poisons “legalized”, and then the “treatment” centers make MILLIONS when people are hooked & need help getting off the meds. And so long as the select few make their money they turn a blind eye to the truth.

    27. [...] Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, & It's NOT Weapons Curious to hear what you guys think. I'm not sure what it proves, other than the fact that these people all had issues to begin with. So are the drugs a cause or a symptom that the shooters all seem to share? And, either way, what could be done about it. If it is decided/proven that these drugs have a side affect that can lead certain people down this road, then do we need to take guns away from all people using them? If we did that, how many people would not come forward to get the help they need because they didn't want to be labeled as a threat? Lots of questions this raises for me, and I haven't got the answers. Something to think about though. Reply With Quote [...]

    28. DRobert you say there’s a differance to the kinds of guns used. So are you saying there was only 1 drug these people had in common? According to that list, several kinds of drugs were being used. Don’t get me wrong I support gun rights. I just find your arguement a little weak. After all an ssri is a ssri just as a gun is a gun.

    29. No dan, your missing the point entirely, which I thought, and apparently others did as well. The largest shared common factor in these incidents ISNT the type of weapon used, as I already pointed out. The shared common denominator is that ALL of the perps were actively on, or ceased taking shortly before their crimes, some type of psychotropic drug. I really dont know how else to explain it

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    31. Leslie Wehman on April 2, 2013 at 11:15 PM said:

      We must be cautious in taking causal inferences from this article. Although each individual may have at some point taken psychotropic medication, it is a fallacy to deduct there is a causal relationship. The article fails to mention that hundreds of thousands of individuals take psychotropic medications without violent outburst. My professional summary would posit that a sociopath did not respond to psychopharmecuetical treatment and manifested homicidal ideations.

    32. David B on April 3, 2013 at 7:31 AM said:

      Although this is a very strong correlation, it may not be a very strong causation.

      Consider that those who are taking antidepressants or antipsychotics are people who often are given them because they are perceived to need them. to put it simply, was it the pills, or were they unstable regardless of the pills?

      It’s kinda sorta like blaming a bunch of car breakdowns on some bad gasoline going around, when all the cars that broke down were 30 years old.

    33. -based psychiatrist David Healy has recently stated “we are giving drugs to children passing through critical development stages a conducting a vast experiment that we do not know what the outcome will be. We are drugging our children and reaping the results. When will we become responsible parents and first get our kids out of government schools and then let then be children. Stand up the the tyrannical thug government.

    34. The problem with the Lawmakers/Congress is they themselves are on Pills as in the Matrix the Blue Pill & the Red pill….problem is they took both!!

    35. Lynna Thompson on April 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM said:

      I was on Paxil for depression and had suicidal urges and really crazy thoughts. Anti-depressants are serious stuff and really can cause people to go off the deep end. Off it and thankfully alive.

    36. carlos j. negron on April 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM said:

      It is amazing that one is constantly informed of blood alcohol levels etc., yet blood drug levels of mass murderers (especially those dead and of whom autopsies can be performed) are not reported.

    37. Why would John Noveske be killed for publishing MY list of cases involving ANTIDEPRESSANT-induced school shootings, suicide, violent crime, etc. (NOT “psychotropic” drugs) which I have been reporting for two decades now? This was a very incomplete list as we have FAR MORE cases than this on our list and I still have more to add.

      I investigated the cases posted at http://www.ssristories.com (which is currently being moved to our main website and now located at http://www.ssristories.drugawareness.org) while our Texas Director for the International Coalition for Drug Awareness, Rosie Meysenberg, began posting them online in 2006. For two decades I have discussed these same cases many times on Coast to Coast, the Jeff Rense show, the Lisa Gibbons show, Geraldo, etc., etc. Now that they are trying to take our guns due to the antidepressant-induced violence – something I told the NRA clear back in 1992 to expect as a result of all the drug-induced violence – it is now being considered that John discussing it is a reason for him to get killed? Sorry but I don’t buy that. Keep looking for the real reason – far more likely that it was one of his clients or friends having an adverse reaction to his antidepressant! Look at the case of the Navy Seal Chris Kyle and his friend killed by a buddy most likely on one of these drugs since he had just been released from a psych hospital.

      Sheriff Richard Mack, author of From My Cold Dead Hand, and County Sheriff, America’s Last Hope, is a life-long friend of mine. I educated him about these drugs in the mid 90′s and have lectured multiple times with him on this subject. He even accompanied us to the FDA hearings in 2004 to get the Black Box Warning placed on antidepressants for increased suicide.

      So what I am saying is this is NOT new information, but it is certainly WAY PAST TIME for someone to pay attention! Antidepressants are SO COMMON in school shooters and other types of school violence that I am shocked when I investigate one that does not involve a shooter on an antidepressant! (That has only happened twice in two decades.) And I do thank you very much for raising some more awareness to a very serious situation affecting us all!!!!!!!

    38. I use Firefox who uses Google’s “Blacklist” to warn of viruses on particular sites. Guess what? I got a warning of such a threat trying to come on your site. Interesting don’t you think, that the liberal site Google has done this to keep the truth from people?

    39. Lol
      You can tell the people that are taking these medications because their reactions are offended.
      People- guns are NOT the problem. It’s the idiot behind it.

    40. Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common… and it’s not guns | Hang The Bankers | He Who Controls the Money Supply, Controls the World on April 3, 2013 at 9:14 PM said:

      [...] following is a republishing of an important article written by Dan Roberts from AmmoLand.com. It reveals the real truth about mass shootings that bureaucrats and lawmakers are choosing to [...]

    41. [...] The following is a republishing of an important article written by Dan Roberts from AmmoLand.com. It reveals the real truth about mass shootings that bureaucrats and lawmakers are choosing to [...]

    42. fox news reported on this in 2003. It’s curious, how they can blame video games, bullying, bad parenting, diet- but cannot even mention the one common link. And that poster is right about the offended- 25% of this entire country must be taking these poisons. This is a national disgrace. For extra fun search Eli Lilly + Bribery

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAO5_Hk06Mc

    43. [...] following is a republishing of an important article written by Dan Roberts from AmmoLand.com. It reveals the real truth about mass shootings that bureaucrats and lawmakers are choosing to [...]

    44. Deborah on April 4, 2013 at 9:01 AM said:

      I don’t think we can even blame the drugs. What precipitated the use (need?) of these drugs for children in the first place? Why are there so many children on drugs? Behavioral problems are noticed first many times by teachers. And the reason usually is divorced parents, broken homes. I would bet a great majority of these kids are children of divorce which has the greatest negative impact on their lives.

    45. Deborah on April 4, 2013 at 9:05 AM said:

      I agree with Mark above. This page is infected. I just got a warning that my antivirus stopped a trojan virus.

      Clean it up!!

    46. William on April 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM said:

      Nearly all the shooters were registered Democrats. Look this one up. Ban all democrats is the answer not GUNS. Lets see how Honest you Liberal smoochers are on this one

    47. Dabigragu on April 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM said:

      LOL, yes Mark I noticed ‘they’ have tried to link this site to an ‘Attack Site’.
      This is typical of Google when a website reports the truth. Too bad Deborah missed the humor in Mark’s comment.
      Way to go AmmoLand!
      Carry on.

    48. Bill Baker on April 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM said:

      The attack site thing really annoys me. Liberals falsely labeling conservative sites that way so google and mozilla will try and stop you from coming here. I put in a complaint with mozilla, but doubt it will do anything.

    49. Dabigragu on April 5, 2013 at 3:52 PM said:

      Bill,
      This is typically a warning that they will (if haven’t already) loaded the site with their games. This is called ‘community organizing.
      This site’s administrators can easily scan their site, via google, then request/demand google remove the ‘warning’.

    50. Bill Baker on April 5, 2013 at 3:56 PM said:

      I’m well aware of the process for blocking and unblocking a site, but the libs have been doing this to a lot of conservative sites lately and google/mozilla should not be allowing themselves to be such obvious pawns of trolling on the internet. You can turn off the blocking option in the options menu but now sites that are bad are no longer stopped. But I’d rather risk that than be annoyed by this type of games, it’s not worth it. I generally love mozilla and hate internet explorer, but this self reporting thing and using google is wrong.

    51. Dabigragu on April 5, 2013 at 10:39 PM said:

      Bill, thanks for the reply, by no means was I attempting to school you on blocking/unblocking sites. You’re correct, the lefties have made this their S.O.P., along with making webpages ‘disappear’. Unfortunately Google is only too happy to oblige with both tactics, yet they see no problem feeding a porn site to my 7yr old on an unrelated search.
      I’m sure you agree, Google is a willing subject here.
      Cheers

    52. Bill Baker on April 5, 2013 at 10:50 PM said:

      @Ragu: No prob, you were in no way my source of annoyance, the blocking thing happened to me at the same time my dogs were annoying me this morning. It’s all good.

    53. MajorFubar on April 6, 2013 at 11:01 AM said:

      Poor little Havana!
      Typical lib who becomes totally flummoxed when presented with facts. Truth hurts huh?

    54. Guns aren’t killing our children – Prescription drugs are killing our children ← majorfubar.com on April 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM said:

      [...] overwhelming evidence points to the signal largest common factor in all of these incidents is the fact that all of the [...]

    55. GoneWithTheWind on April 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM said:

      So is it the drugs or the fact that the individual is so mentally ill they need the drugs. Arguably it is more logical that it is the illness and not the “cure” that causes the problem. Just as arguably provable is that without the drugs even more mentally ill people would commit horrible crimes. I think you have just put your finger on the wrong problem.

    56. Harold Poole on April 6, 2013 at 7:59 PM said:

      All read the book (Triangle Research) by Jon Batson. ISBN9761450505529. Good easy read and a real eye opener for those who are concerned with what is happening today.

    57. If on psychotropes then already sick. 30% of american kids already taking such drugs?

    58. Rosen Otter on April 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM said:

      You guys do know that SSRIstories.com and CCHR are both Scientology front groups, right?

    59. Tracy D on April 8, 2013 at 4:22 PM said:

      I just read your previous story on the subject. Isn’t this what you want? Paint all people on anti-depressants as ticking time bomb whack jobs who do not deserve to be able to defend themselves?

      A corollary doth not a cause make. Many of us take anti-depressants which have literally given us our lives back. Many of us can function normally, freed from paralyzing fear, anger, irrational outbursts and feelings of hopelessness. They are prescribed for many mental heath conditions from transient sadness (some caused by hormonal imbalance or grief) to severe psychosis. Very few people who take them are actually psychotic – even fewer are violently so.

      Logical fallacy: cum hoc ergo propter hoc – correlation does not imply causation. Still, it’s good enough “logic” for the government to use it against us because we are STUPID enough as a group to fall for it every time!

    60. Tracy D ( and others ) that have made similar comments, here and other places that have linked to this article. I anxiously await ANYONE pointing to the SPECIFIC words, phrases, or paragraphs were I stated that ” the drugs made them do it ”

      I wont hold my breath, because no one can provide such evidence, because I never made such a claim. I am well aware that these drugs CAN be beneficial to many, many people. I have a good friend who takes Anti Anxiety meds and is a gun owner and a threat to no one. But none of that changes the FACT that there is abundant evidence that there is SOMETHING going on. There are simply to many incidents, across to much time, by to many people, for it to all be nothing more then a coincidence

    61. Davis Thompson on April 8, 2013 at 6:08 PM said:

      There’s no “supression” of information, Just check out drugs.com for list of side effects for Paxil or Effexor. It’s all right there. And these side effects aren’t even that uncommon.

      It’s a double edged-sword. Some kids may need these meds, but they’re also way over-prescribed. Funny how none of our brilliant leaders are even looking at this.

    62. In addition to the aforemention fact that these people were on medication because they needed it, I’d also like to point out that most of the pills listed above are really common, first line prescriptions. Prozac was approved in 1987. Ritalin has been prescribed since 1960. Welbutrin, 1986. Paxil, 1992. Zoloft, 1991.

      Maybe these people needed something stronger?

    63. NY Gun Confiscation Underway - D-series.org on April 9, 2013 at 9:20 AM said:

      [...] [...]

    64. [...] drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to [...]

    65. Ranchman on April 10, 2013 at 1:05 AM said:

      The false “epidemic” in America, especially in grade schools, of ADHD and similarly diagnosed “behavior disorders” has seen the prescribing of Ritalin, among other mind/mood altering drugs, in mass quantities. These kids almost all have suicidal & rage control issues after they get older. We’re reaping the harvest. If you watch TV at all, you will be inundated with mood altering drug commercials. They all have common disclaimers which state that suicidal tendencies, nightmares and other negative side effects are probable. Are we to just sit there and believe these drugs are safe? It’s almost as if we have become oblivious to the truth right before our eyes. And it’s almost as if these drugs are being prescribed to intentionally turn society into zombies with the side effects from these drugs. Is there a correlation between the prescribing of these drugs and the desire to “zombie out” society? One of the goals of the Communist Party USA is to create new types of psychological disorders which only psychologists can diagnose. They can then diagnose huge sections of the population as crazy, stripping them of their rights. We must understand that they MUST destroy the 2nd Amendment, they can’t destroy the people if they don’t do this first. It just feels as if everything coming down the pike today is geared toward the shredding of our inalienable right to defense against tyranny. Something wicked this way comes. Sound like paranoia? Yeah, maybe they’d like to prescribe Prozac for it.

    66. dogismyth on April 10, 2013 at 7:33 PM said:

      sorry guys and gals. The world is moving on without you gun nuts. The world is screwed up because of your farfetched and outdated beliefs in guns, gold and god. All are bad for our society. You have had your guns for many many decades but have done nothing with them except to kill harmless animals and shoot innocent people. I don’t see or hear anyone who has actually used his gun to defend his supposed constitutional rights!!

      That’s right. Climb out of the box and take a look at yourself and those like you. Why is it that you feel you must have a gun??

    67. dogismyth said

      ” I don’t see or hear anyone who has actually used his gun to defend his supposed constitutional rights!!”

      LOL, try the 2004 National Academy of Sciences Report ” Firearms and Violence, A Critical Review”. They determined lawful self defense by private individuals armed with a gun took place a MINIMUM of 700,000 times annually in the US , and LIKELY that the number was significantly HIGHER. The FBI/DOJ has released similar reports over the last 15 to 20 years that come to roughly the same conclusion. None are so blind as those that refuse to see.

    68. Heya just wanted to give you a quick heads up and let you know a few of the images aren’t loading correctly. I’m not sure why but I think its a linking issue.
      I’ve tried it in two different web browsers and both show the same outcome.

    69. Queequeg on April 11, 2013 at 6:11 AM said:

      If, as the author states, that antidepressants turn people into killers, why do we see such LOW number of murders?

      Over 40 million people a year take antidepressants. Even if every single one of those above mentioned deaths is caused by medications, that’s less than a 0.002% chance.

      More people die from bee stings than antidepressants, it would seem.

    70. [...] Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, & It’s NOT Wea…. [...]

    71. Queequeg, I’ll ask the same question that I have more then once, that I still have yet to receive a cogent response for. By all means feel free to point to the specific words or phrases where I stated unequivocally that the ” drugs made them do it ” ( paraphrasing). I wont hold my breath waiting, because no one can produce such evidence, because I NEVER said such a thing. But to simply ignore a very troubling ” adverse reaction ” (for lack of a better word) that most of these mass shooters obviously share is foolish in the extreme. Additionally, if there really isnt SOME kind of linkage at all, then why are NY State and California now going around and confiscating firearms from people that have received psychiatric treatment for even minor issues but have NO criminal record or history of violent behavior ?

    72. [...] drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to [...]

    73. dogismyth on April 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM said:

      LOL, try the 2004 National Academy of Sciences Report ” Firearms and Violenc

      bahaha….yeah, you go ahead and use those government reports for your information. Those are likely filled with BS to further their objectives.

      Do you realize there is a bond for every individual? Do you realize that killing individual by self defense is still consider a crime by the State since it has nullified the bond (some of which are worth millions)? Have you ever wondered why people are thrown in jail for self defense and charged with man slaughter?

      I suggest you study the law….commercial maritime law, and pull your head from your arse.

      By your response, you are the sheeple.

      What if most people ignored guns, gold and god? What then? By bet is that the world would be a much better place to live in. But unfortunately, many people gain their confidence and gratification from guns, gold and god.

      To F’n bad for them. Just wait until you are required to have at least $1,000,000 liability insurance for each gun!!! lol….you guys make me laugh. Buy, buy, buy….the gold, the guns and the religion. its your money, but please consider registering yourself as a weak, socially-inept and insecure individual so we know who we are dealing with.

    74. Uh, dogismyth. Since you seem to think your the reincarnation of Willaim Blackstone, maybe you could explain what in the hell you mean by a ” bond worth millions” on an individual person ? While your at it, what in the world does commercial MARITIME law have to do with the subject of lawful self defense on LAND ? Your suggesting that Maritime Law somehow applies to an act that occurs in the middle of landlocked Kansas ? As for “studying the law” ? Its all I’ve done, written about and taught ( Self Defense Law) for over a decade. My education, experience and knowledge of the subject at hand is quite extensive. But thanks for your concern.

    75. Correlation does not equal causation on April 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM said:

      Possible explanations other than SSRIs:

      -having eaten McDonald’s french fries
      -preferring Coke over Pepsi
      -heard a bird chirp that morning

      To the author: I am all for the right to own a gun, but I beg of you. If you cannot interpret studies, please do not comment on them. Also, please learn to spell.

    76. dogismyth on April 13, 2013 at 2:46 AM said:

      ok. i suggest you read “invisible contracts” by Mercier as starter material. Then once you’re intrigued, I have a few more that help to understand our nightmarish reality.

      You want the truth….you can’t handle the truth.

    77. Then, there is also MK-Ultra!

    78. ariana rose on April 13, 2013 at 11:47 AM said:

      well, in my opinion humans are inherently violent, these drugs increase a humans resistance to its violent tendencies. and as far as havana goes, killings between gangbangers and drug dealers that happen on every corner of l.a, new york and chicago dont count as mass killings. if you take away guns then its just gunna make it harder for the decent people to protect themselves. if you think for one second that a “gun law” will control criminals your a special kind of stupid.

    79. Iraqwarvet on April 14, 2013 at 5:53 AM said:

      So by your assumption that the root cause for homicide and suicide by firearm is the taking of anti depressant and anti anxiety medications. Have I got that right? Come and try to take the firearms from all of the combat vets who maintain a meaningful existence with medication and psychiatric treatment, see what happens. We take your shoddy treatment after we risk life and limb for your precious second amendment but by the reading of your article Veterans should be barred from possessing firearms. You lump vets in with felons, dishonorably discharged vets, psychotic and sociopaths. Thanks. Come for our guns, we are well trained, see what happens. This article disgraces all veterans.

    80. [...] drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to [...]

    81. What am I missing here?? If we look at all examples of murder: 9/11, Newtown, Columbine, etc…the common denominator in all examples are a human was the instigator/perpetrator. If those planes that hit the twin towers sat on the runway, unmanned, 9/11 would not have happen. If the guns used in Columbine and Newtown sat in the closet, unmanned, they would do no damage. Humans are the problem, yes liberals, that’s right, humans are the problem; not the weapons of choice.

    82. Correct. People must take responsibility for their actions and the affect on others: politicans>laws, drug companies>advertising, physicians>what is best for patients not money, parents>teaching your children, lobbyists>what is best for their special interests and not the people, wall street and bankers>personal greed that effects the world economy and life savings of millions of people,
      Doctors, parents, friends, family etc.>that can’t identify someone they are around everyday is mentally ill and a danger to society, news reporting>what is politically correct or the company position over what is best for society.
      This list could go on but the truth is that the pursuit of money is not the same as the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    83. keithbrekhus on May 11, 2013 at 12:09 AM said:

      To the person who said that nearly all mass shootings were committed by Democrats…that myth has been debunked…http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth

    84. [...] following is a republishing of an important article written by Dan Roberts from AmmoLand.com. It reveals the real truth about mass shootings that bureaucrats and lawmakers are choosing to [...]

    85. Scott H on May 20, 2013 at 3:40 AM said:

      Okay uneducated folks, anti-psychotic drugs are not good for anyone who does not have any psychotic tendencies… i.e. Anti-Social Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or others. Now a simple anti-seizure drug does wonders for stabilizing moods! SSRI’s are god awful Rx’s and can’t be mixed with tons of other drugs… Tricyclic ones tend to keep people awake for days, annoyingly but not exhausting…

    86. [...] drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to [...]

    87. I was prescribed an anti-psychotic for
      STOMACH PAIN!
      WTF is with these Doctors?
      Of course, I refused to take it!
      Now, because I didn’t take it I am no longer a patient.

    88. […] being said, guns are not the problem. The one thing that all of these shootings have in common is “that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or […]

    89. If using a sero 7 psychologist who has extra to supply is confirmed effective.
      The first shots will always be a surprise. A treatment for depression are treated successfully.
      Sigmund Freud was a great piece of advice for parents first receiving thhe diagnosis of ADHD.

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