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Kansas Mandating Effective Gun Free Zones

Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten

Arizona - -(Ammoland.com)-  Kansas recently passed legislation requiring that local governments that ban the legal carry of concealed weapons in public buildings, do so for people who ignore the law as well. 

The logic is simple: If a person is willing to do illegal harm with a weapon, then ignoring a simple sign that forbids people from having weapons on the premises will not be much of a deterrent.

This creates a situation where only those who are willing to ignore the law are armed.  John Lott has noted that all of the public mass shootings since 1950, except one, have been in places where the public is not allowed to carry guns, “Gun Free Zones”.

Second amendment supporters often refer to such areas as “Defenseless Victim Zones”.

The Kansas response is to require enforcement of “Gun Free Zones” in public buildings.   If a government entity wishes to prevent the public from carrying guns in a public building, they can do so, but they have to put in place security measures such as guards and machines that are capable of detecting weapons, not a simple sign.

Wichita will open most of its public buildings – including libraries, recreational centers, CityArts and the Wichita Art Museum – to people carrying concealed guns under a new state law.

Fearful of lawsuits, the City Council voted 4-2 to allow concealed-carry in all but 16 of 107 city-owned buildings effective Jan. 1

Those who oppose the right of the people to bear arms have also opposed making the “Gun Free Zones” effective.   They claim that the cost is prohibitive.  That is partly the point, to inject reality into the debate.   If you want to be secure from guns, a mere sign is only effective against those who are law abiding.  From kansas.com, Lavonta Williams, a city council member, stated an ideological reason for the ban on legal concealed weapons:

“My thing is the kids,” Williams said. “What are we teaching them? Two wrongs don’t make a right. If you’re saying the outlaws are carrying so we should carry, then two wrongs don’t make a right.”

Many proponents of the measure say that citizens carrying arms is not only a moral right, it is a fundamental human right enumerated in the Constitution.

Kansas is the first state to put such a law into effect.   Arizona passed a similar measure in 2012, but Governor Jan Brewer vetoed it.   Wisconsin considered a similar provision as part of its gun law reform in 2011, but it was ultimately removed during the legislative process.

The primary argument put forward by opponents is that the measure creates a costly burden for those who want to maintain those largely symbolic “Gun Free Zone” signs.   But, the cost only occurs if the signs are kept up.   Then the proponents of “Gun Free Zones” have to show that they are serious about preventing dangerous criminals from having guns in those zones, not primarily interested in disarming armed citizens.

After the attack by Islamic terrorists in Nairobi, Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble noted that open societies have  to make a choice between living with extremely tough security measures, and having an armed citizenry.

“Societies have to think about how they’re going to approach the problem,” Noble said. “One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you’re going to have to pass through extraordinary security.”

Static defenses, such as these security measures, have generally proved ineffective over the long run.  They are costly to maintain, and can be defeated by dedicated opponents.  They cannot be extended over all of society.  To do so results in a police state or totalitarian system.   They have the advantage, however, of clarifying the reality of the choices.

©2013 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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About Dean Weingarten;
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973.  He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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  • 6 User comments to “Kansas Mandating Effective Gun Free Zones”

    1. D. L. Hemmingway on December 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM said:

      This measure should be extended to the private sector too. If a company wants to be a gun free zone then it must provide physical protection to employees and patrons.

    2. John Thompson on December 30, 2013 at 5:55 PM said:

      Gun free zones are shooting range’s for killers!

    3. Buck Crosby on December 31, 2013 at 11:51 AM said:

      Lavanta Williams apparently likes dead kids , as in murder victims for those that get by the abortionist . GUN FREE ZONES ARE NATURAL KILLING ZONES FOR WHACKO’S AND COWARDLY MURDERERS .

    4. HappyClinger on December 31, 2013 at 1:02 PM said:

      “…two wrongs don’t make a right.” Just because you live in fear of guns doesn’t mean carrying them is wrong. In fact, our Constitution guanantees progressive tyrants like you can’t keep us from owning and carrying guns.

    5. Wow, Lavonta Williams. She doesn’t understand INTENT, I guess. I carry with the intention of defending myself/others if the need arises. The “outlaws” carry with the intent of killing people.

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