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Virginia State Association Of The Chiefs Of Police Says You Can’t Be Trusted With Guns

Friday, March 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

Virginia State Association Of The Chiefs Of Police Says You Can’t Be Trusted With Guns
Chief Jacocks is afraid of his own officers carrying guns and being able to drink responsibly….?

Virginia Citizens Defense League

Virginia Citizens Defense League

Virginia Beach VA. – -(AmmoLand.com)- Unbelievably, Virginia Beach Police Chief Jake Jacocks, Jr., speaking for the state association of the chiefs of police, has asked Governor McDonnell to veto SB 334, the restaurant ban repeal, because guns in bars would be a “recipe for disaster.”

Hmmm. The only people that the bill allows to mix guns and alcohol are police officers (on duty, off duty, and retired) and Commonwealth Attorneys and their deputies. So it sounds like Chief Jacocks is afraid of his own officers carrying guns and being able to drink responsibly. That’s a sad commentary on his department and the other departments that are backing this position. I wonder if these chiefs prohibit their officers from driving cars to restaurants, too?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: a whole lot of chiefs of police are nothing more than political hacks that did not work their way up through the ranks and don’t share the beliefs of their rank and file officers on such matters.

Also, the Sheriff’s Association did NOT share the bogus concerns of the Chiefs.

I personally don’t donate to the Fraternal Order of Police for their past and current interference with our gun rights and I also have no intention of contributing to anything from the Association of Chiefs of Police, either, for the same reason. The Sheriffs Association doesn’t pull this kind of baloney.

The good news is that according to the article, the Governor is going to stand strong and sign the bill:

“McDonnell will sign the bill, said Taylor Thornley, the governor’s spokeswoman. While McDonnell appreciates the work and comments of the police chiefs, he will ‘continue to protect and uphold the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens,’ Thornley said.”

Here is the story:

State’s police chiefs seek veto of guns-in-bars bill

http://hamptonroads.com/node/546409

By Deirdre Fernandes The Virginian-Pilot © March 17, 2010 VIRGINIA BEACH

Calling guns in bars a “recipe for disaster,” the state’s police chiefs have pleaded with Gov. Bob McDonnell to veto legislation that would ease Virginia’s concealed weapon laws.

Virginia Beach police Chief Jake Jacocks Jr. sent a letter to McDonnell last week on behalf of the state association of chiefs comparing the combination of firearms and alcohol with drinking and driving.

“We can fully expect that at some point in the future a disagreement that today would likely end up in a verbal confrontation, or a bar fight, will inevitably end with gunfire if you sign this legislation into law,” Jacocks wrote.

SB334’s requirement that anybody with a gun is prohibited from drinking and could be charged with a misdemeanor is “absurd,” Jacocks said, and can’t be enforced. [PVC: In that case, perhaps we need to just get rid of the penalty altogether or make it a civil fine.]

On Tuesday, Jacocks got support from Virginia Beach Mayor Will Sessoms, a McDonnell supporter and gun owner.

“Not only is it stupid,” Sessoms said, “I think it could be a fatal mistake.”

But their efforts seem unlikely to sway McDonnell.

McDonnell will sign the bill, said Taylor Thornley, the governor’s spokeswoman. While McDonnell appreciates the work and comments of the police chiefs, he will “continue to protect and uphold the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens,” Thornley said.

The bill deals only with concealed weapons; in Virginia it’s legal to carry a gun openly without a permit.

SB334 and its House counterpart, along with legislation that allows gun owners without concealed-carry permits to store firearms in locked vehicle compartments, were among the gun-friendly bills approved by the General Assembly this year. The Democratic-controlled Senate formed a special subcommittee late in the session to kill several gun-rights bills, including a repeal of the state’s one-handgun-purchase-a-month limit.

The police chiefs association has opposed the guns in bars bill in the past, but it also had a more sympathetic ear. Former Democratic Gov. Timothy M. Kaine twice vetoed such bills.

The Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police didn’t come out strongly against the bills during the session because it was spread too thin trying to preserve state funding for police departments, said Dana Schrad, the organization’s executive director. [PVC: Life does have its priorities ;-) ]

“We didn’t duck and cover on this one,” Schrad said. “We had to prioritize on budget issues.”

The Virginia Sheriffs’ Association, the other large law-enforcement lobby in the General Assembly, did not take a stand on the legislation, said John Jones, the organization’s executive director.

“No, we’re not going down that road,” Jones said.

But association members recently did vote on a resolution supporting Second Amendment rights, Jones said.

Jacocks and Schrad did acknowledge that the letter was a last-ditch effort.

“It was important to let him know directly how we felt about this issue,” Jacocks said.

If police across Virginia see an increase in gun violence at bars, the association will come back and ask the General Assembly to reconsider its decision, Schrad said. [PVC: Or course any such violence would have to be unjustified and perpetrated by CHP holders, police, or Commonwealth Attorneys. Even then, that is why we have laws - to punish bad people, not to punish the good ones.]

Statistics on gun-related incidents at establishments with liquor licenses were not available Tuesday. [PVC: Again, unless they deal with CHP holders acting unlawfully, such statistics are irrelevant.]

About:
Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right. Visit: www.vcdl.org

Right to Carry Bills Make Progress In Illinois General Assembly

Sunday, March 7th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

Right to Carry Bills Make Progress In Illinois General Assembly

IllinoisCarry.com

IllinoisCarry.com

Springfield, Illinois --(AmmoLand.com)- HB6249 A Right to Carry bill sponsored by Rep. John Bradley passed out of the House Agriculture & Conservation committee this past week with a vote of 11-1.

It is now placed on the House calendar for Second Reading. HB462, another Right to Carry bill sponsored by Rep. Brandon Phelps is scheduled to be heard by the same committee on March 9, 2010 and is expected to pass out of committee with the same support.

Click on the bill numbers above to see if your Representative is one of the co-sponsors of these bills. If their name is not listed as a sponsor, call them and urge them to support your right to protect your self and your family. Urge them to show their support by signing on as co-sponsors of these bills.

If your representative does not support your right to carry, be sure to inform him/her they will not have your support in the next election!

Lobby in person for the Right to Carry, March to the State Capitol, and make your voice heard! Don’t miss an important opportunity to show your support for the Right to Carry!

Join the largest group of Second Amendment supporters IL has ever seen.

IGOLD participants will present their message to their state representative, state senator, the Speaker of the House, and the President of the Senate!

Illinois Gun Owner Lobby Day – IGOLD
Wed. March 10, 2010
Prairie Capitol Convention Center, Springfield, IL

Doors open at 10:30, Concessions open all day,
Pre-rally 11:45, Legislative Briefing Noon,
March to Capitol 1:15 pm!

IGOLD.isra.org
Deadline to reserve a seat on one of the many charter buses from around the state is Mon. Mar. 8th!

To expedite security procedures it is best to enter the Capitol with the least number of items that must be opened, searched or screened. If you can narrow that down to a wallet that can be tossed on the scanner bed all the better!

We thank you for your cooperation – and so will Capitol security!

IGOLD Marshals Needed!
Like to help others? Familiar with the State Capitol Complex? Volunteers for the IGOLD ground crew are needed. They are the friendly, smiling volunteers who assist at the Prarie Capitol Convention Center and the march to the Capitol. Once inside the Capitol they help direct attendees to their legislators offices.
If you would like to volunteer, please go the IGOLD Volunteer page for more info.

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