Top 5 Really Expensive Things Every Shooter Should Own

By Thomas Conroy

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Midwest –-( Like any other sport or hobby, shooting can be done on the cheap, if you want.

And I’ve run across plenty of shooters who take pride in shooting on the cheap, even when they don’t have to.

While cheap plinking is certainly possible, frugality is not always the best policy when it comes to the shooting sports. I have learned, many times over, the truth and wisdom of the old saying “You get what you pay for.”

If you’re serious about shooting, then it is probably better to “cry only once” when you buy, and lay down some long green for really nice things that will make your shooting that much more enjoyable.

So here’s my list of the Top 5 Really Expensive Things that every serious shooter should try to own at least once in a lifetime.

5. Moving Target Systems

I like printing groups on paper with an accurate rifle, but that gets stale after a while. Moving targets can make almost any kind of shooting a lot more fun in a hurry.

For shotgunners, there’s nothing quite like the Crazy Quail ( ) system. It’s a carnival ride for clay target machines that spins and whirls, flinging up to 1,632 clay pigeons at every direction, angle and speed imaginable. The Big Quad, equipped with 4 clay-target machines will cost around $18,000. Sounds pricey, but I know people willing to spend more than that on a used bass boat. I have fished off many bass boats, and shot Crazy Quail once. I know which one I’d rather plunk down 18 Grand for – Crazy Quail!  And I don’t consider myself to be much of a shotgun guy, either.

If you’re a rifle or pistol shooter, you can have a moving target for a lot less than the Crazy Quail Big Quad. Action Target’s Portable Runner ( ) will cost around $1,500 from retailers like Brownells. It can be set up anywhere it’s safe to shoot, and runs on a rechargeable battery system.

For even more flexibility, you can also get remote-control targets that can move in any direction at different speeds, like the Target Tracker ( ) , available in several models for right around $2,000.

Crazy Quail Machine
Crazy Quail Machine

4. Expensive Optics

I’m a rifle guy, and I cannot tell you how much it annoys me to see a good, accurate rifle topped with a nasty cheap scope. It annoys me even more to hear some shooters brag about how they spent $100 to scope their $1,000-dollar rifle.

With optical devices, you really do get what you pay for. And if you enjoy shooting, you need to own some serious glass, on at least one of your guns. One example would be the $3,000 scopes from US Optics ( ) . For rifle shooters, these babies have every bell and whistle, and can help you reach the absolute maximum ranges.

What? You’re not a spec ops sniper engaging insurgents in the mountains? Even if you’re just shooting paper targets at the range and hunting deer once a season, a high-quality, lower-power scope like a Swarovski Z6I ( ) can really improve the experience.

I used to think that the $300 scope at the department store was just as a good as the fancy-schmancy scopes with prices of at least 4 digits. I realized my error the second I picked up a Swarovski and looked through it. There is simply no comparison in the optical quality and clarity of a high-end scope alongside a bargain basement scope. And that’s not considering durability, toughness, and the repeatability and precision of the click adjustments, either.

The same goes for any other shooting-related optics, like spotting scopes or night vision or even thermal imaging sights ( ) that can cost more than $10,000.

If you’re trying to shoot in the dark, or hunt varmints at night, nothing beats having top-notch gear that actually works well.

Swarovski Z6I Rifle Scope
Swarovski Z6I Rifle Scope

3. Large Amounts Of High-Quality Ammo

We’ve all either seen it or done it. Somebody saves up for a nice gun, and then ends up shooting the cheapest ammo possible through it. Sure, that imported steel case stuff costs less, goes bang, and functions well enough, but it’s not always the most accurate, and can leave your gun downright filthy after a long shooting session.

And don’t get me started about using those cheapo handloads you bought out of the back of a van at a gun show. That’s a great way to turn your gun into a very expensive pile of scrap metal and wood splinters.

Then there’s the guy who buys only one or two boxes of really good ammo, and shoots only four or five rounds on the rare occasions he actually takes his gun out of the safe, because he thinks the ammunition is just too expensive. That’s no way to improve your shooting skills, much less enjoy owning and shooting a nice firearm.

Ideally, we all should find ways to afford lots really good ammo and shoot it up, frequently. I’ve fired tons of cheap ammo, and slightly smaller amounts of really good ammo. I find good ammo to usually be more than worth the cost. Good ammo is more consistent and made with better-quality components, improving repeatability and precision.  Does it sound a little kooky to run your AR-15 with ammo that costs over $1.00 a round, or shoot your .308 with ammo that costs around $2.00 a round, like Winchester ASYM Precision Ammunition ( ) ? How much do you like hitting targets and having your gun run reliabliy and smoothly at the range? How about at a shooting match?

And when it comes to hunting ammo, you really do need to get more-expensive, high-quality ammo made for hunting, and practice frequently with it. You owe it to the game you hunt to have the skill to make ethical shots, and to use good ammo that will quickly and efficiently put the animals down.

ASYM's National Match 45 ACP Target Ammunition
ASYM’s National Match 45 ACP Target Ammunition

2. Truly Custom Guns

If you are into guns at all, and find any sort of pleasure or fun in target shooting, competition shooting or just backyard plinking, you owe it to yourself at some point to own a custom gun.

Because there are so many types of guns, and so many types of shooting, here’s how I’ll define “custom gun” in this case.

For this article, a custom gun is one built to your personal specifications, with the accessories and upgrades you want to help you perform better at your favorite type of shooting. Maybe that custom gun is a $20,000 Perazzi Shotgun with the length of pull and cast set just for you? Or is it a $6,000 contemporary Pennsylvania flintlock crafted by a known artisan? Or maybe it’s a $5,000 handbuilt 1911?

Williams Flintlocks British-Style Fowler
Williams Flintlocks British-Style Fowler

And I want to be clear. I’m not talking about guns that are merely expensive. If you really want, you can drop close to a cool million on a rifle from VO Vapen. And I don’t mean rare, museum-grade collector pieces either, like an original Colt Walker or one of the .45 ACP Lugers from the U.S. Army tests of 1907.

VO Vapen Viking Edition One of One Rifle
VO Vapen Viking Edition One of One Rifle

The gun I’m talking about is not supposed to be the Mother of All Safe Queens, and won’t be displayed under glass that’s surrounded by state of the art security systems. The gun I’m talking about may cost quite a bit, but it is built and designed to be shot, a lot, by you, at whatever type of shooting you like best. The gun I’m talking about is going to be fired, and most certainly will get some scratches and dings on it.

My personal favorite custom gun is a professionally-accurized Remington 700 that cost me more than $2,000 about 16 years ago, and would probably cost me around twice that if I bought it brand new today. I have taken that rifle to shooting classes, and competed in matches with it. I’ve spent hours upon hours shooting long-range targets, both by myself and with buddies.

Over the years, that rifle has brought me way more than $2,000 worth of fun and enjoyment, and is still running strong.

That’s what I mean by a custom gun – one that you will shoot and shoot and enjoy for years, perhaps a lifetime. And getting that much enjoyment over a lifetime of shooting is easily worth a few thousand dollars.

Remington Custom Shop
Remington Custom Shop is a good place to start. :

1. Land To Shoot On

This is, by far, the most expensive thing on the list. More and more urbanites are getting into shooting, and owning their own piece of rural land that’s safe to shoot on may seem like a dream. But if you can ever make that dream happen, it can provide freedom and fun beyond anything you may experience at a formal, commercial range or organized gun club.

Before I moved to my present home, I used to live on about 30 very rural acres in a gun-friendly state. In one spot, I made a berm out of old tires completely covered with several feet of rock-free river bottom soil I had trucked in. That became my pistol and short rifle range, where I could back up to about 50 yards. On another section, I had a large hill that served as a natural backstop for my 200-yard rifle range. And so long as I kept my shots pointed to the west, I could shoot aerial shotgun targets pretty much anywhere on the property.

Private Shooting Range
I was very safe on all my ranges, and insisted that anyone else who shot with me also followed all the standard safety rules.

Whenever I wanted to shoot, I just grabbed a gun, ammo, and eye and ear protection, and sauntered out the door. If I wanted to test a new batch of handloads, the range was only 45 seconds away at a slow walk.

I was very safe on all my ranges, and insisted that anyone else who shot with me also followed all the standard safety rules.

But so long as we practiced safe gun handling, we were free, totally free to shoot whatever and however we wanted.

We shot cans of shaving cream and cheap two-liter sodas by the cart load. We secured an axe to a log and tried to split soft lead bullets on the edge. We tried to light strike-anywhere matches with .22s. One year, I gathered up about 20 leftover Halloween pumpkins and invited a bunch of friends over for the Great Pumpkin Massacre.

I was so free on my own personal ranges that I hated going to official gun clubs or commercial ranges that had all sorts of rules about approved targets and ammo, set shooting positions and prohibitions against “rapid fire” shooting. Now that I live inside city limits, I really miss the freedom of my personal backyard range.

Private Shooting Range
Private Shooting Range

Land is expensive, and a big commitment, and you need to do your homework before you buy a piece of property to shoot on. Are the people in that area accepting of backyard target practice? What are the laws regarding shooting in that locale? Can you actually shoot safely on the property without endangering anyone else? Do you plan to live on the property, or just use it as a range, and maybe a hunting area? These are all questions that must be answered before you get your own place to shoot on.

But if you find that perfect piece of land to shoot on, you’ll have a place to put your moving target system, get the most out of your high-quality optics, and burn all the really good ammo you want through your favorite custom gun.

Your own little slice of ballistic heaven on earth.

Thomas Conroy is a firearms aficionado and writer who lives in the Midwest.

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Dr. Strangelove

I can’t believe all of the whiners commenting on the article. I’ll probably never have most of the things in written about, except maybe a custom gun, but who doesn’t like to dream a bit? Try a little Preparation H for that butthurt.


True to form, most reply’s are from a bunch of sheeple who missed the point of the article entirely, who we all know only to well, that if their wives would let them would buy the high dollar “good stuff”! Great article, even if I can’t afford the “really good stuff” I can dream. Now, let the venom flow!


I mostly buy top shelf factory rifles-a couple lower tier. I will put a $500 scope on a $2000 rifle. A couple of $100 scopes for the shorter range less expensive rifles. An author claiming it “annoys” him when he sees a cheap scope is of no interest to me. I mind my own business at the range and don’t concern myself with other people’s affairs. I don’t agree with his wish list – it is not even practical. Buy whatever you can afford and have fun. This author gives impractical advice and may even have emotional issues.


A lot of Articles about these beautiful wish lists are mostly the dream world, all shooters would like to enjoy. But, there are those of us shooters, who a few guns are only afforderable, can have these dream conditions. We still appreciate these articles that keep us reading about the guy’s the can afford a $3000.00 Pistol, Revolver or rifle. Keep it up, we will continue to read about a perfect sport that we enjoy.

Tim Toroian

Top 5, totally agree. The land should be enough for 1000 yard shooting.


I get the feeling the author works for Cosmopolitan. same kind of silly article they write, all fluff and nonsense

three items serve no purpose and solve no problem, the others i already have.

John Casanova

I would extend the personal shooting range into buying into a large game lease with your own shooting range. I’ve been to one of these in Central Florida and it’s the ultimate. It’s on 300,000 acres and Shaq would be a neighbor out there when Arrive with your mobile home for the lease. It’s just a lease though because the owner (2nd largest land owner in FL after Disney) has it in reserve for the end of the world – which we hope is a long time from now. Another one I would add would be your own Vault Room.… Read more »

Timothy Rothgeb

Question why is the little boy. Shown without hearing protection?????


Whaaaaaaat ?


The general tone of the comments was the manner the “dream” items were presented. No one likes to be looked down on because they can’t afford a $1k optic, or own a shooting range in their back yard so please don’t treat us as lower class. I suspect you would be “butthurt” if you were insulted.

Eddie Hubbard

Oh yeah 1 more thing, I have been shooting many many years without high dollar optics. Iron sights work fine. On close range shots who needs a scope? On long range shots after about 500 yards or so a scope would be ok. Again this is just an old redneck talking.

Eddie Hubbard

Damn we are all not made of gold. All that expensive stuff ain’t needed to shoot our guns. That’s is a load of BS. I shoot daily using cardboard slips picked up for free at any store that I can get them from. You can paint any target you want on them. Plastic bottles that fill with water from the creek. I use stuff out in the woods here to make my target holders. I use the hilly terrain as a berm along with a pile of trees that have been dozed up in a pile. I use tree stumps… Read more »


Topped many rifles with the good old Tasco and Bushnell (sp) that bounced around in the back of jeeps and pickups and never had a problem.. Think these boys should box up their golden toys and their better then thou attitude jump in their 50K MB Suvs and get the hell out of Dodge.. Talk about talking down to their audience. Damn..


I got a old Bushnell and a Eagle Optics scope and they both work fine too lol


Expensive optics. Yes, I would love some sweet night vision optics if I had the $$ for good stuff. All my other optics are Leupold and Vortex pieces. The two finest being a Vortex Viper PST 4-16×50 and A Leupold VX-R 4-12×40. Love them both. Anything more pricey than that these old eyes can’t tell much of a difference. I do think I am going to upgrade my spotting scope in the next year or two. There I expend to spend ~$800-$1000.


I have to live on a tight budget as most readers of this article do. Expensive optics seems to have set everyone off, if you have the cash spend it, if you don’t you have to do what I did. I bought a cheap (<$100) ACOG knock off for a 22lr plinker with low expectations. To my surprise the glass is crystal clear, the adjustments are crisp, tactile, audible, it holds zero after being tossed around and I think I could drive 16d nails with the thing its so rugged. There are practical applications for every price point, you don't… Read more »

James T Kirk

This author is a D-bag. Most likely full of inner fudd.


I do not appreciate the belittling tone of the author. He used the words I hate when he sees a $100.00 scope on a $1000.00 rifle. Also, this immediately screams maladjusted emotion. I own $500-$600(ZEISS/Leopold) scopes on $1200.00 rifles. I refuse to spend more on a scope or a rifle(I can afford custom). They do not make me a better shot. I can shoot your eye out of your head 80 to 90 percent of the time with my inexpensive set up of a 336 Marlin with a Tasco scope. I purposefully wanted to prove a point to myself first… Read more »


Thats the first gun I had props keep it!!??

Dennis Rymon

Must be nice to have the bucks for that wish list. The only thing I have on that list is enough land for a 300 yard range. I don’t have a single rifle worth more than $300.00 and I rely on Tasco and Simmons scopes from Walmart. I use Lee Loaders for everything but the shotgun (a Winchester Model 120 Ranger that I got during a Valentines day promotion from a sewing machine store. “Buy a sewing machine for your wife and get a free shotgun”). and the .22’s. My moving targets are clay pigeons, real birds, rabbits, and coyotes.… Read more »


That’s awesome you got a shotty on a bogo sale of a sewing machine.

Clark Kent

I think the proper title of the article should have been: ‘Top Five Really Expensive Things Every Shooter Should Own Once He Wins The Lottery Or Inherits Lots Of Money’.

Gregory Romeu

In the United States Marine Corps I was handed an M-16A1 rifle that probably had over 10,000 rounds put through it. We didn’t have any fancy tinker-toy add-ons, no scopes other than the iron sights of the rifle and we qualified as experts out to 500 meters… (That’s 546 feet for those of you that slept during math class). We (Marines) operated off of 3% of the U.S. Naval budget, so whatever we had we begged, borrowed and stole and we haven’t lost a Battle yet! So? Fancy, expensive crap was never an option… Besides, the more you add, the… Read more »


1640 feet and a few inches… I can’t believe no one saw that.

Don Parkhurst


Dennis Cooper

500 meters is actually 1640.42 feet

Joseph A. Ramirez

What math class did you attend or were you asleep? I always thought a meter =3.28+ feet. So, if you multiply 500m X 3.28ft., that would equal 1,640+ft. Right?

Don Parkhurst

he typed in feet instead of yards-big deal,most people will know this w/out being nit picky-but thank you for your due diligence in being grammar nazis and mathematicians lmao


500 meters is really 546.807 yards. What the heck were you thinking?


I agree. I went to Iraq twice in the Army and I only had a ACOG a small flashlight and a vertical grip mounted to my M4. For me anything else would of just made the weapon extra heavy. Hell even on my first deployment I just had a standard carrying handle iron sights on my M4 lmao.

Charlie Blaine

Just an article written in good faith(I believe) about one Shooters opinion. Why so much fuss? I am sure that the wants and needs of each reader is in some way different and at times extremely so. The only center fire rifle I own is a 30-30, no scope and I like it that way. I spend more than I can afford on good revolvers and an occasional pistol.


Great article; thanks. I don’t ever expect to be able to drop several grand or more on a gun, but it’s nice to dream. I have splurged though, and spent over a thousand on two occasions. One was a new M1A . That turned out to be a piece of crap, in spite of returning it to the factory for repairs. The other is a Browning Stainless stalker–the Shot Show version. That one is a piece of art, and shoots like a rifle is supposed to shoot. What the M1A lacked, this one has, and more. I really take my… Read more »

Don Parkhurst

just like in photography-glass makes the shot-but spending thousands on a scope vs a camera lens just doesnt make sense,where i hunt and shoot-very seldom will i get a shot that is further than i can take w/iron sights,so the need for top dollar optics for my guns has never been an issue,its not like we’re sniping w/a .50 cal big bore at a mile out-be realistic and use common sense-if you have the money to waste,who am i to stop you??

Wayne McGregor

Here is a Free Training Video using Target Tracker

Wayne McGregor

Thanks a ton! Awesome: Ammoland just mentioned us in their article, this is a honor for us to get noticed because we do not have the big marketing budgets as the “BIG” Companies and we are stated to HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY AT A LOWER PRICE!!!!!

For even more flexibility, you can also get remote-control targets that can move in any direction at different speeds, like the Target Tracker ( ) , available in several models for right around $2,000 -$3000

PS> to the comments above WE DID NOT PAY TO BE IN THIS ARTICLE!
Ammoland Thank YOU!


When I went to USMC Scout Sniper School 50 years ago I used a Remington 700 BDL in 7.62 (less than $500) and a Weaver GI issue 3X9 scope. They were about $200 as I recall. My longest hit was 900 meters. Since then I have taken elk at 350 meters plus, running coyotes well over 200, plus moose, deer, bear, rams etc. with my own $ 400-600 rifles with various scopes bought for less than $200. Yes expensive equipment is nice but I have also taken animals with iron sights and a model 94 in 30-30. The best plan… Read more »

Kent San

Some of you clowns need to lighten up. Ever read stories about Ferraris in car mags that you can’t afford and decide to castigate the author too?

His point on optics is spot on and makes sense. You’d be a better shooter / hunter with a $100 rifle and a $1,000 scope than the other way around and everyone with a brain knows it.


@Kent San, yeah you would think Obama banned dreaming!!! If you cannot dream of things that you would someday like to own then life gets rather bleak and hopeless. Can 99% of us ever possibly afford these things? No, at least I know I can’t, but I can dream and buy that lotto ticket twice weekly because the odds if you don’t buy a ticket are zero to one (you can’t win if you ain’t in, LOL). Maybe someday we will be blessed and able to afford to own some of these things, maybe not, but if you give up… Read more »


Why is it that all these sights that sell ammo list in little red letters. “Out of Stock”, remember the days not to long ago. You could pick up a brick of .22’s for $16.00 and not to long ago at that.


Crazy Quail actual now has a smaller machine and you get in the game for a price most anyone can afford. Please checkout our new Crazy Quail Mini on our web site!


I think this article just made some people feel inadequate. Sure some people can afford a 3500 nightforce or a Schimdt and Bender. However most cant and do the best they can. I’ve been collecting firearms for 25 years, and I own 2 top end scopes. I built my own custom rifle, how better to make it custom than to build it yourself. And it shoots like a dream. People buy what they can afford and still enjoy shooting go it’s fullest. You don’t ” NEED” a 3500 scope to have a blast at the range or shoot top end… Read more »


LOL… I do hope tongue was in cheek while these witticisms were being penned… for it is more often than not the guys who have the least that show the how to really do it right, doing it right does not require imported European Goat skin gloves, and deer hide hunting boots to being down that Bull Elk… between the top ammo producers, ammo is pretty even across the board, some shoot better in some rifles and vise versa.. a well placed 50cent 308 round will bring it down just as quick as a $8.00 308 round.. while a great… Read more »


Growing up as a kid it was all about having fun outdoors with family and friends and most of the time I used a gun that was under $500 including optics using ammo that I could afford as a teenager. The memories are worth more than all of those expensive toys put together. That’s what hunting and shooting is all about having fun and making memories with your loved ones. Instead of spending all that money on stuff go out on a trip with kids, grandkids, or friends and enjoy the great outdoors. Take lots of pictures and make memories,… Read more »

A. Giuliani

Most people who frequent this forum cannot afford what is on this list nor is it necessary. These are all nice wish list items and not necessary to enjoy guns.

Everyone would love their own shooting land. I purchased land where I will build my retirement home once I retire. It has taken a lifetime to save up for and will only be able to enjoy it once I am retired since it is not in the same state I live.

I hope a future article will have more sensible suggestions

Ur Kidding

Learn how to hit any target with what you own

Money seldom makes up for lack of skill

If its still burning a hole in your pocket, purchase someone to shoot for you


Learn to hit the mark with whatever you own.
Money seldom makes up for lack of skill.
If its burning a hole in your pocket buy someone to shoot for you.


What a bullshit article. Shooting elitists are the scourge of this industry. So many more important and useful ways to spend money shooting.

John A

Nice work if you can get it. This is obviously written by someone who has far more money than he has good sense, or who is getting all of these things using someone else’s money. I know that I’m trying to save up money to get some work done on my crapped-out 1911 — maybe by this summer? — to put new sights on it. I’m not completely sure I’ll be able to afford to shoot it afterward, or at least for a few months, but at least it’ll be easier to aim. Assuming that it’s actually worth doing the… Read more »


Just because Tom’s suggestions may be a little over the top for some people, they are easily accomplished by others. There’s not one complaining poster here who hasn’t tried a better target – or an exploding one, tried to hit aerial targets, tried to customize a gun in some way to make it more to their liking, bought second hand, or had something cheap work quite well. No two bucket lists are the same, so instead of bitching, write about your examples and post it. Ultimately, it takes hard work and experience to reflect on that which is deeply satisfying… Read more »

Tom R

This is the biggest bullsh** article I’ve read so far this year!


To Mr. Conroy, from most of the comments, sounds like you stepped in it! You article was most likely written in good faith, but I would wager that a lot of what you are writing about was donated to you by Companies hoping to get a good review, or a plug from you column. I am also equally sure that most of the commenters would love to have a way to afford SOME of the products that you tout. Real world economics make that highly unlikely.


What a load of road apples. With the economy in the tank and ammo so rare and expensive none of this is going to happen for 99% of Americans. I built my AR15 as inexpensive as I could (under $550.00) and shoot the CHEAPEST steel cased ammo I can find and I have a scope that was given to be and by his standards (a cheap one) that gets 10 of 10 in a six inch group at 100 yards if that does not get the job done I quit. I am buying property out in the sticks but NOT… Read more »

The Rifleman

Seriously Mr. Conroy? This list is the Top 5 Really Expensive Things that every serious shooter should try to own at least once in our lifetime? You also say that you have learned, many times over, the truth and wisdom of the old saying “You get what you pay for.” You’re right, Mr. Conroy, this is an “old saying.” However, it’s not always the truth, nor is it necessarily wise. Considering the ridiculous cost and real value of these 5 things, I would title that as “A fool and his money is soon parted!” Apparently most of us will never… Read more »


For my money (which isn’t very much) I won’t put any scope on my firearms less than a Leupold or Vortex. Not a multi thousand $ scope, but it “git’s ‘er done.”


Wow, well Joe the plumber, Forget feeding your family, paying any bills for a year and buy that $14,000 scope you wanted for target shooting. Talk about out of touch. What do you do for a living, I’m guessing government work with taxpayer paid big bonuses every year. $300 dollars for a scope is a lot for a lot of people, so thanks for showing us lower class people how you upper and I’m sure much better people live and spend your chump change.

Clark Kent

I performed ‘government work’ for 33 years in a highly stressful occupation with ZERO ‘taxpayer paid bonuses’ every year. Take your ignorant crapola biases down the road………


I would add – or substitute – or modify the Custom Gun category – to be a PERSONALIZED gun. Think Engraving. My example: I have a S&W 460 XVR, and it was good. BUT I wanted better, so – first, off to a decent gunsmith for a medium polish overall, and a good action / trigger job (converted to single action, too). With that done it shoots easier and better. OK – next to an engraver – with directions to put western scroll on it, and add two small symbolic things that mean something to me (Scottish Thistle and a… Read more »


Could you post a picture of that 460?


Not on here – can’t see how to post a pic. BUT if we can figure out how to email each other directly I will send pics, and info on who did the work. Thanks for the interest.


I’m of the opinion that having the right amount of weapons to suit your own personal taste is preferable to having something that you cannot afford nor would want to afford even if you did have the money. If I won a lottery and had a bunch of disposable income to waste on shooting sports equipment I really do not think I’d buy a 10,000.00 + tubed shotgun to shoot skeet. Nope, I’d rather have a home built converted regular production gun that was modified and tweaked into my personal fit gun. I’d much rather shoot a gun I built… Read more »


Sounds to me as your compensating for something else!


What does this comment mean? Why did you make it? It is well documented that we can live for a month or longer with no food, however, water is much more needed to sustain life. Depending on where you are, you could die in less than a day without enough water. I have seen it happen in Death Valley, more than once. Granted, this is extreme, but please prepare yourself.


Oh, but Azarchangel, you went there first! Most of the shooters I know don’t spend an awful lot of time looking down. Not to worry. If you ever get up the courage to actually go to a range, you will discover that we don’t make people group shower before going home.


The ONE thing that is indispensable to any shooting camp, hide away or hidden bug out location is WATER. Not a hundred milk jugs but a system to purify even ditch water. The are several in the market and I don’t advertise for any one but a simple Google search can be a life saver. I have personally survived 8 days with nothing to eat but I had a source of water and the only side effect is trying to eat too much too fast.

ed burkahrt

forgot to comment the reason i reload is to produce best load for each weapon, if it doesn’t shoot 1/4 in groups i sell it to some one who isn’t so fussy, ed.

ed burkhart

i agree with you excpet most shooters are not making 75 plus a year and have families and buying house. myself i’ve had both and prefer to buy most accurate rifle at good price 500 to 700 and then medium scope except fort hunting but shoot more ammo that will make you a bettrer marksman,ed


Great article! I couldn’t agree with you more, especially on the optics. I used to be that guy with the $200 scope on a $2400 Noveske…I was so tired of buying junk scopes that don’t track, fog, reticle moves or you can’t see past 500 yrds. If we keep buying em, they will keep making em. I bought my first high end scope last year. I’m broke like most and the only way I could swing it was with a 4 payment plan with an online retailer. I will never buy another low end optic no matter how cheap they… Read more »


Sorry Tom, looks like this article isn’t for you, while you are looking for the black helicopters we’ll be enjoying ourselves. Post on a article that’s for you.


The only point I have a problem with is the optics. I have read many, many comparison reports on optics and they all point to the fact that a 300-400 dollar scope will do the job of many scopes 3-4 times the price, some even better. I would like to see the proof that a $3000 scope will kill a deer at 150 yds better than a $300 scope. Maybe if I was going on a $10,000 sheep or mountain goat hunt the higher cost would be beneficial, other than that, use the money for ammo or moving target set-up.


For the vast majority of people, really expensive and really cheap scopes are a waste of money. Nothing else in shooting terms people into complete morons like scopes. Guys that didn’t finish high school going on about chromatic aberrations and telling others how they need to spend $2000 on glass for their 200 yard plinking. There is no obvious difference in clarity between a $300 and $1000 scope unless you go super long range or shoot in very dim lighting. A lot of people wouldn’t even be able to tell side by side in a store. Expensive scopes is mainly… Read more »