Westgate Resorts To Scan All Guest for Weapons, So Much for Personal Privacy

Patscan CMR Microwave Scanner
Patscan CMR Microwave Scanner

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- Back on October 1st, 2017 Stephen Paddock shot and killed 59 concertgoers attending a country music festival in Las Vegas from an elevated position at The Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino. In response to this shooting, one hotel is now using a discrete radar system to detect guest that might be carrying guns without the consent or knowledge of being scanned by their guest.

In the city that is home to SHOT Show, more and more hotels are going to be installing a weapon detecting device called the Patscan Cognitive Microwave Radar made by the Canadian security firm PatriotOne Technologies.

This Patscan CMR Microwave Scanning tool scans hotel guest without their knowledge at the time of check-in or anywhere in the hotels using radar in the form microwaves.

The first hotel that is going to be using this technology is The Westgate Las Vegas Resort and Casino. The Westgate opted for this technology because they can scan their customers discreetly without their knowledge. This evasive secret scan isn't an accident, or an overlooked sign in the hotel. According to the Westgate, they want to be able to scan their customers their customers without their consent.

WestGate bans all guns from its resorts with a few exceptions:

“Weapons Policy: Resort premises are private property. The safety and security of our guests, visitors, vendors, and associates is of utmost importance to Westgate Resorts. This policy is designed for the protection of our guests, visitors, vendors, and associates, and pertains to the presence of weapons on premises owned and/or operated by Westgate Resorts. Any and all weapons, including but not limited to, firearms, knives, and/or explosives, concealed or not concealed, with or without a concealed weapon(s) permit, are not permitted by any person and/or for any reason except as expressly detailed here on any and all premises owned and/or operated by Westgate Resorts. What constitutes a weapon will be determined by Westgate Resorts in its sole and absolute discretion. Sworn, on-duty State and Federal law enforcement officers whose agency has jurisdiction at the applicable premises, and military personnel, may carry any weapon. Resort Associates may carry a weapon with express written permission or as part of their assigned duties. Shotguns are permitted at Westgate River Ranch Resort for the sole and express use at the Trap & Skeet Range. Any and all persons who possess a weapon on premises either as permitted or in violation of this Policy must follow all applicable Federal, State, and local laws with respect to that weapon. Persons found to be in violation of this Policy may be subject to applicable Trespass laws. This policy applies to any and all on Westgate Resorts' owned and operated properties. The company expects that these individuals will comply with all provisions of this policy. Where Federal and/or State law or rules differ, the company will abide by the applicable standard.”

The scanning devices are so small that they can be installed at the front check-in desk, in elevators, in walls, or even the doors to the guest rooms. The Patscan CMR devices use the same technology that cars use for parking assistance, but in this case, it is used to violate the privacy of the hotel customers.

One of the selling points that PatriotOne touts is that hotels do not have to ask for consent or even let the hotel guest know that they are being scanned for firearms avoiding issues with a guest who does not want their luggage or person to be examined by the hotel. PatriotOne claims that no ones rights are being violated.

Patscan CMR
Patscan CMR

Not only can the Parscan CMR device be used to scan for firearms. It can also detect knives and other weapons. In fact, it can almost be used to identify anything that a guest might have as long as the hotel uploads the signatures into the database that powers the Parscan CMR.

I reached out to PatriotOne Technologies and was told that they only keep on file weapon signatures.

When I ask PatriotOne Technologies about the possibility of a third party signature file being used, they were unconcerned about that chance because they hold a patent on the signature files. When I asked about the patent being violated by unscrupulous parties, they seemed indifferent about that possibility because of the limited use of the information.

PatriotOne Technologies touts the fact that they believe privacy is not an issue since the device will only alert on a possible match. According to PatriotOne Technologies own data, there is a 6.2% false positive rate. This rate might not seem like a lot, but it does lead to privacy concerns for the guest that is taken into custody at gunpoint for a false positive.

According to Mark Waltrip, who is the Chief Operating Officer of Westgate Las Vegas Resort and Casino, the hotel will have a 100% scan rate for all guest at the Westgate. Waltrip states that guest knowing the hotel scans them will take away from the fun of Las Vegas so they will conceal the devices.

Waltrip, who is a concealed weapons holder, claims he supports the second amendment, but at the same time, he told Wired magazine, “I have a concealed carry permit myself. But, you know, on our properties, we want to maintain a safe environment, and we don't need guests bringing weapons on site. We really don't want that kind of surprise.”

Westgate Las Vegas Resort and Casino is the first hotel in Las Vegas to get the Parscan CMR, but according to PatriotOne the device be deployed by other major hotels in the second half of 2018

John Crump
John Crump
  • PatriotOne Technologies can be found at www.patriot1tech.com.
  • The Westgate can be found online at www.westgateresorts.com

About John Crump

John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. He is the former CEO of Veritas Firearms, LLC and is the co-host of The Patriot News Podcast which can be found at www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotnews. John has written extensively on the patriot movement including 3%'ers, Oath Keepers, and Militias. In addition to the Patriot movement, John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and is currently working on a book on the history of the patriot movement and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss or at www.crumpy.com.

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Matt Nikita
Matt Nikita
2 years ago

Where are all the hero’s carrying weapons saving a** loads of lives? F*** your all retarded it’s called the element of surprise. I don’t care if you have 10 guns on you. When someone wants to sneak up on you and blow your head off they don’t tap you on the shoulder and say, pardon me but I’m about to shoot! Therefore one person on the prowl will take more lives. And who f****ing cares after 8 human lives are lost. That some cowboy pulls out his gun and kills the shooter. If he’s even lucky cause the coward shooter… Read more »

blimphead
blimphead
2 years ago

You’re engaging in a false equivalency. Having a gun and being denied an accommodation is not the same as being black and being denied accommodation. Race is a protected class, gun ownership is not.

GS
GS
2 years ago
Reply to  blimphead

Blimphead, You are correct that gun ownership is not a protected class. The right to life is a Civil right that was part of the basic foundation of this country. Therefore, the possession of the means to protect life is part of that civil right. It is also part of why, the States would not ratify the Constitution, until the 2nd Admendment and the rest of the Bill of RIGHTS, was added to the Constitution. At that time, there were no ‘protected classes’. When the progressives began creating ‘protected classes’, they obviously did not want to include gun owners. You… Read more »

Billy From Tennessee
Billy From Tennessee
2 years ago
Reply to  blimphead

We are not talking gun’s, we are talking about having the same right to protect ourselves, our family and our way of life. The police and the government security do not carry guns to protect you, it is to protect themselves and the people that hire them and we are saying we have that same right to protect ourselves no matter where we go. Besides if gun’s where not necessary why would the police carry them, is it because it is the best defense against a bat, a knife, or a group of tugs etc… That fact remains there are… Read more »

Big RICK
Big RICK
2 years ago

I unfortunately went to Westgate on 12/28 to go to Benihanas for dinner. It was my birthday and went out for a nice dinner to celebrate. Either these machines don’t work worth a damn or I dint pass one because I was packing and never heard a peep from anyone there. If they had told me I couldn’t bring in my pistol I guess we woulda had to celebrate my birthday at Mc Donalds because I don’t go to places that don’t allow me to carry. My family and I prefer to be safe other than trendy. If they can’t… Read more »

GS
GS
2 years ago

Some places have laws about discrimination in public accommodations. Might there be a lawsuit over that in this policy? There would be some satisfaction in staying away and watching them go broke. But, rather than passively going elsewhere, a vigorous legal action to ensure a right to access public accommodations would be preferable.

blimphead
blimphead
2 years ago
Reply to  GS

Only if the public accommodation has some tie to government. A privately owned hotel will likely not fall under that.

GS
GS
2 years ago
Reply to  GS

Blimphead, public accommodations can include both government and private accommodations. However, the government is not in the business of providing lodging for the general public. The Westgate Resorts IS in the business of providing lodging (a public accommodation)and does fall under the discrimination laws. TheNevada EqualRights Commission for Public Accommodations pertains. On their website you will find that it says, in part, ‘ALL persons are entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of places of public accommodation without discrimination or segregation because of race, color, religion! Sex, National origin, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression.’ Hotels and restaurants… Read more »

blimphead
blimphead
2 years ago
Reply to  GS

Incorrect. You can only claim an infringement of your rights if state action is involved. There is no state action here as Westgate is not a government entity.

GS
GS
2 years ago
Reply to  blimphead

Private entities that rent apartments, for example, are liable under discrimination laws.. if I try to rent an apartment and am denied because of my race, I have a claim for an infringement of my rights. So are you just being difficult, or do you know something the rest of us don’t know?

davida
davida
2 years ago

this is as objectionabe as booby trapping your home.
both are privet property .
question is how is a violation handled? .
what warnings ect.?
is it posted?
how do you determine proper ownership of defencive weapons ?
is this entrapment?
will they say “we believe your illeagly armed with xyz ” . please leave now , and be free to go ?

tomcat
tomcat
2 years ago

@ Wild Bill if I had your address or phone number I would contact your better half and ask her to hide the new rifle until Christmas morning.

Mark
Mark
2 years ago

I definately will be staying ther knowing it’s safe from gun toting cooks… look at countries that ban guns like Canada and Australia the death rate from guns is next to none and compare that to the United States where every other week is a new mass murder I wonder which is safer giving everyone guns or restricting access to guns??? Hmm…

Chiefton
Chiefton
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark

If your analysis is correct and you are sincere then why in the world have you not moved to Canada or Australia. One possibility is that you are a hypocrite and a liar. Hmm….

Billy From Tennessee
Billy From Tennessee
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark

LOL Mark, I find that to be funny because more people are killed by blunt object such as hammers, baseball bats, etc. every year than by guns including states and countries that allow people to own weapons. Moreover, the states where people are allow to own weapons in the good ole USA there are less car jacking, and home invasions’. Furthermore, there are five times more deaths caused by alcohol every year than by guns I do not hear people screaming about that. So yeah there are less gun related death in those places but get real wake the F-up… Read more »

Chuck
Chuck
2 years ago

These should be in all hotels, grocery stores, malls, schools, churches… anyplace where there are lots of people.If you conceal carry – and you see an establishment that does now want your gun on the premises you should respect that wish – that is called freedom people. If said premises have one of these scanners – that is their right, exercising their prerogative to protect their clientele if a gun is found on a guest. To suggest otherwise is unpatriotic.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuck

, You are half correct. An unconnected to touching is the tort of battery. If someone or some corporation touches you with a micro wave that you have not connected to, that is also the tort of battery. Nor do I think that going along with the program because it is convenient for someone or corporation is the measure of patriotism.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Damn spell check. Should be ‘unconsented to” touching. And “that you have not consented to,” My apologies.

durabo
durabo
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

AutoCorrect has become our worst enema

blimphead
blimphead
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

What law school did you go to? Battery requires an awareness of the touch.

Billy From Tennessee
Billy From Tennessee
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

I lean toward the Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things

Billy From Tennessee
Billy From Tennessee
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuck

REALLY Chuck? So you stop one mad person from walking into these places with a concealed weapon while violating everyone else rights, can you picture that really happening, and how is this suppose to work. What going to stop them from walking in with a fully loaded and blazing weapon? That would be us meaning all pistol packing toting mama’s and papa’s and you being unarmed they would train their shots on us saving your life. However, I do agree with you Chuck if those places do not want weapons on their property you should respect that, but what is… Read more »

Jim
Jim
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuck

Kind of like their right to allow customers to smoke on premises????

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Jim, that’s a false analogy. Smoking is hazardous to not only the smoker’s health, but everyone else then forced to breathe the noxious, toxic, and carcinogenic smoke. A better analogy would be banning your tobacco products from the the premises. Your carrying tobacco products, just like my carrying my firearm is hazardous to no one. The big difference between your tobacco products and my firearms is that unlike your tobacco products, I can use my firearm for self-defense and defense of others; whereas your tobacco products can only be used to harm yourself and others.

John Dunlap
John Dunlap
2 years ago

“Leo”, is very likely not a real person, only an account used by an office of paid trolls. Their job is to get everyone worked up and fighting with them, instead of doing anything effective, like discussing how we approach our legislators about this problem. The issue is primarily the blurring of lines between the private and public sectors and how it is endangering our rights. Westgate and businesses behaving like it are, in effect, acting as an informant network for government. This sort of thing exists in most authoritarian regimes, such as China. We’ve never faced this problem here… Read more »

leo
leo
2 years ago
Reply to  John Dunlap

I am not troll just don’t feel the need to have a gun. I am trained in martial arts so I feel confident enough to protect myself from aggressive people without the need of a gun. Also I have a friendly happy demeanor so people tend to like me (except some of you). If somebody ever pulls a gun on me they better kill me or they will be knocked the fuck out and beaten within an inch of their life. I think some of you suffer from paranoia cause who cares if you are being scanned for everyone’s safety,… Read more »

John Dunlap
John Dunlap
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Not only a troll, but psychotic to boot. Who do you think you are, one of the X-Men? If only Leo had been in Vegas! Why, he’d have just teleported over the five hundred or so meters to Paddock’s room and dropped him with a roundhouse kick! Firearms safety is a matter of education and is at an all time low due to the NRA’s education programs, evil people will always find a way to get weapons no matter how much of our rights we surrender or what health damaging technological gimmicks are forced upon us, and the only practical… Read more »

John Dunlap
John Dunlap
2 years ago
Reply to  John Dunlap

Correction: firearms accidents are at an all time low. Never write hurriedly. That’s what the paid trolls are trying to get us to do. I guess the worthless little twit earned his pay today.

James Higginbotham
James Higginbotham
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

if you notice the add here is called AMMOLAND, and it’s for people who OWN AND USE GUNS FOR SPORT AND OTHER VENTURES.
so with your ATTITUDE, WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE.?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

@troleo, “… they will be knocked the fuck out and beaten within an inch of their life.” Is that what you call a happy demeanor? And you call us paranoid? Your writing is replete with conflicts, and the anti-gun propaganda line. As to your “being trained in the martial arts” Well, of course you did… darling.

Michael Fallon
Michael Fallon
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

I took martial arts for five years, and a retired LEO. One thing I learned in all those years. Martial Arts are great, but a bullet is a lot faster.

Mike
Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

So Leo. If you’re trained to the point that you can kill a human with your martial arts,your hands should be registered correct. Knowing you could kill me as you stand next to me makes me nervous. To protect myself I should be able to carry my side arm just as you are always armed to kill. Oh and I also have a “friendly happy demeanor” . WTF does that have to with anything?

Billy From Tennessee
Billy From Tennessee
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Do you mean unskilled aggressive people? How often have you taken a bat or knife from some nut?Further more, there are more kids being killed by cars, swimming pools, alcohol and caregiver related deaths than by guns. It is a sad fact in the USA we have more children going hungry than in other nations. It is sad people shake and beat children to death more often than being shot so what is your point take away the guns and the children will be safe???? Don’t get me I understand what you saying but the reality my mother and sisters… Read more »

Billy From Tennessee
Billy From Tennessee
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

leo says: December 13, 2017 at 8:44 PM More guns is not the answer IMO. I understand why people want to protect themselves and their families by carrying a gun. but technology like The Patscan allows you to live your life without losing your right to bear arms but at the same time may help protect innocent people from killers, especially terrorists. Security devices like this will help keep guns out of places like schools, churches, government buildings and other areas that are vulnerable. <<< NOPE soft targets. Billy from Tennessee shakes his in disbelief and reading how Leo would… Read more »

Billy From Tennessee
Billy From Tennessee
2 years ago
Reply to  John Dunlap

Hum if that is fact you are in a since saying anyplace we go we such as Wal-Mart they have a right to search us or our bags and purses coming, going or anytime they please since we are on their private property and regardless if we committed a crime. Unlike the police only then The Fourth Amendment applies: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing… Read more »

leo
leo
2 years ago

I think it is a great idea to scan people for weapons to help prevent one of you gun loving, chest thumping, nut jobs from killing us tree huggers.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

@leo, So you think that it is ok to knowingly and intentionally expose your fellow humans, CCW and treehugger alike, to microwave radiation? And you are deprecatory toward CCW holders, in general, even though, as a group, CCW holders are more law abiding and samaritan than the general population? Your espoused ideas are without merit and they says a lot about you. I can only conclude that you are a propagandist.

leo
leo
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

I’d rather be microwaved then shot, how about you? In case you didn’t know The Patscan is FCC approved. I can only conclude that you are irrational.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

My fellow LTC people are notoriously and statistically law abiding. I trust them more than a bureaucratic agency or the maker of Patscan or a LV hotel corporation. Corps want your cash and don’t care. Bureaucrats want a nice day at the office and a easy retirement. LTC holders have no designs on me. I have come to some conclusions about you, too!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

@OV, Yeah, I forgot about Agent Orange and PCBs. Good points. Only a week til Christmas and taking my new rifle out of hiding! Woo hoo! Merry Faith Based Christmas, and a Happy New Rifle.

durabo
durabo
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Let us not forget iatricide, which terminates human life several thousand times more than guns. .

Leo
Leo
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Mass shootings happen in America more than anywhere else in the world!! Guns are prohibited in casinos and hotels so law abiding citizens would be breaking the law if they brought their guns.

durabo
durabo
2 years ago
Reply to  Leo

Leo, reach in, grab hold of your ears, and pull your head out of your arse. After you wipe the brown stuff from your eyes, take a look at El Salvador, México, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, etc. and report on mass killings in those Godforsaken s#it-holes. At least here in America we have the right to defend ourselves with firearms, instead of being VBCs (victims by choice). Not so in México, for example. After you read this, go take an evening stroll through South Chicago, or DC, or Baltimore, where firearms are strictly forbidden by law. Then, ALFA, MIKE-FOXTROT!

leo
leo
2 years ago
Reply to  durabo

More guns is not the answer IMO. I understand why people want to protect themselves and their families by carrying a gun. but technology like The Patscan allows you to live your life without losing your right to bear arms but at the same time may help protect innocent people from killers, especially terrorists. Security devices like this will help keep guns out of places like schools, churches, government buildings and other areas that are vulnerable.

durabo
durabo
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Lwo, are you planning to spend the rest of your clueless life in a Patscan-protected environment, or are you going to venture out into the street and other public places?

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Leo, you have a cognitive disconnect. In no way will this protect anyone. It is just like any other GFZ, only the law-abiding will be disarmed.

Chiefton
Chiefton
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

The only thing a tree lover/hugger needs to worry about is getting slivers in his……well you know, his “branch”.

Larry Fricke
Larry Fricke
2 years ago

As a long time Westgate timeshare owner and CCW permit holder, I carry to protect myself and wife on our extended vacations. Being over 70 and having cancer, I’m no long any match for anyone wishing to take advantage of us. Looking now to sell or just unload our 3 units that can be used every year. Interested??

Henry
Henry
2 years ago

“Waltrip states that guest knowing the hotel scans them will take away from the fun of Las Vegas so they will conceal the devices.”

It would be equally true to say the same thing about roofies, but that still wouldn’t make either of them conscionable.

James
James
2 years ago

Yup, I live here and used to go there pretty often, I always made sure not to carry a gun in there even though I have a CCW but I wont tolerate being snooped on armed or not. Sorry they lost my business forever. Remember Vegas is a gun owners town, we have SHOT show here, many firearms conventions, as well as a gun show almost every weekend. You are screwing a lot of people Westgate. The funny part was I used to stay there before I lived in Vegas, and was taking classes at Front Sight, I always had… Read more »

James Andrews
James Andrews
2 years ago

I have zero desire to go to Vegas, and certainly wouldn’t stay in one of these anti-Bill of Rights “resorts”!

Granny Grunch
Granny Grunch
2 years ago

Who, in their right mind,would risk the lives of their family by staying at a hotel like this knowing that it could be a target at any time for evil people,democrats/IsIs terrorists,, who now know they can attack with impunity. Not me…not my family.

leo
leo
2 years ago
Reply to  Granny Grunch

wow! the science of stupid! Keeping weapons out will make you safer dum ass

Edwin
Edwin
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

leo, have you failed to notice that mass shootings nearly always take place in “gun free zones”? Schools, churches, movie theaters, military bases, etc? Law abiding citizens follow such rules. Bad characters with bad intentions find a way around them. Who’s the dum ass?

Just Wondering
Just Wondering
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Is “The Science of Being Stupid” your alias?

More than 90% of all mass shootings occurred in gun free zones. Think theater, Aurora, CO.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago

So the Westgate Las Vegas Resort and Casino is planning to intentionally expose their guests to microwaves. Sounds like a really great class action suit. Anyone having stock in Westgate Las Vegas better sell it while it still has some value. I bet that some people are already planning to go there just to get microwaved.

Scotty Gunn
Scotty Gunn
2 years ago

Plenty of hotels and motels in Vegas. The non-five star places won’t be able to afford to do this, so stay there.

SK
SK
2 years ago

Concealed carry holders are not the problem. They are some of the most law abiding citizens there are. So now you have another gun free zone for jihads to target where law abiding citizens are not allowed to defend themselves. IF I ever go back to Vegas I won’t be staying at a Westgate resort.

Ben
Ben
2 years ago
Reply to  SK

Same.

HankB
HankB
2 years ago

I see an increase in all metal or foil lined luggage.

Microwave radar – have these been tested for their effect on medical devices like pacemakers?

SuperG
SuperG
2 years ago

Seems like a prolix statement on their part. They could have just said that if you are a concealed carry permit holder that we do not want your business. Which is fine with me, as that policy just announced to the criminals and crazies that they are invited to “fleece the sheeple”.

Inidaho
Inidaho
2 years ago

We will not patronize those places! After the Vegas, coverup, incident, we no longer desire to travel there. I hope gun and sporting conventions, and meetings, move elsewhere. There will still be plenty of people to flock to Vegas, and be scanned, with no cares or practice complete unawareness. While trained, gun toting, criminals, will prey upon those subjects. Make Vegas a total gun free zone, what a novel idea! We were at the Luxor in May. I visited with several of the yellow shirt armed guards, discussing training, shooting. The majority of them had not trained with 12 months… Read more »

Rock
Rock
2 years ago

Westgate Resorts will now…………. NO LONGER EXIST. Plenty of other places that allow me to protect myself and my family.

durabo
durabo
2 years ago

It’s time to move the S.H.O.T. Show and all other gun-related functions to free states, like TX, AZ, SC, GA, AL, etc. Arizona (except for the People’s Republic of Tucson) has excellent facilities, and ranks #1 in gun acceptability rankings.

Michael Z. Williamson
Michael Z. Williamson
2 years ago
Reply to  durabo

Indiana has no restrictions on weapons. If it doesn’t shoot bullets, it’s not a weapon. If it’s a weapon, it’s legal, and the cops have never cared nor asked for my permit, which is good for life and requires no hoops. All licenses from anywhere are valid.

We hope to be Constitutional within a year or two.

You might want to stay out of Mesa, too. They play a killer Hokey Pokey. “You put your right hand in, you put your right hand out, you put your right hand in and BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG!”

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  durabo

, That is a great idea. Bring the S.H.O.T. show to Yantis, Texas. There would be plenty of parking. Not much else, but plenty of parking!

Big Lou
Big Lou
2 years ago

So much for going to Vegas. Soon this will be everywhere. Privacy lost. Concealed carry is just that. If you are going to go around my permit to carry you’d better be ready to cash out big if something happen to someone who stays on your property. As for me I will never stay if my life saver can’t stay with me. I’m responsible for my own life. And that’s what they will be saying in court. We are not responsible for your life, you stay at your own risk.

Trevor
Trevor
2 years ago

Buck may be right but that sure seems like a step in the wrong direction! These businesses are essentially denying people of their constitutional rights. If this is allowed, then there will be even more “gun free zones” for perps to target. I don’t feel that the police are the answer to my personal protection when at home or on the move, so I’m certainly not going to let that responsibly fall to perfect strangers susceptible to budget cuts and bottom lines. Not only should we take our business elsewhere, we should put a stop to this. At a time… Read more »

piper
piper
2 years ago

As usual, it will only effect the already law-aiding good Americans.

leo
leo
2 years ago
Reply to  piper

lol, your a joke! because you need a gun on vacation in case you need to shoot some black guy who may be a lazy fucker, that white woman want to fuck after they smoke that marihuana stuff yee haa!! red neck noise!

durabo
durabo
2 years ago
Reply to  leo

Leo, you write like the demented foreigner you must be. Take your anti-Bill of Rights attitude and go back to the shit-hole of your birth, where the national police enforce anti-gun laws, or try México: you will LOVE it there!.

Roy D.
Roy D.
2 years ago

So carrying a firearm inside a metal foil envelope should defeat the device. Sort of like a foil lined fanny pack? Never go on the defense when there is a possible line of offense.

Jim in Conroe
Jim in Conroe
2 years ago
Reply to  Roy D.

The metal foil envelope or foil lined fanny pack will be detected, and the person carrying this will be flagged for further inspection.

Presumably the hotel has posted their policy or signs indicating that weapons are prohibited.

This prohibition is entirely within their rights as private property owners, as is your right to take your business elsewhere.

Vanns40
Vanns40
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim in Conroe

And what about the terrorist who strolls in with Semtex? I realize that armed intervention isn’t feasible against that threat, just pointing out the ridiculousness of it all.

In any event, I’ll spend my money elsewhere.

TAM
TAM
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim in Conroe

While a foil lining might be pretty obvious, I suspect thre’s ways of changing the signature to defeat this pretty easily.

Kalana
Kalana
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim in Conroe

Actually its not within their rights to snoop through your luggage via electronic or physical means without a reason. Oh and Faraday cages for the win. I can make one out of a simple cardboard box, nothing to see in that old box of socks…

Jason in Ohio
Jason in Ohio
2 years ago

Yeah, this will prevent mass murder…. uh huh…

Brendan
Brendan
2 years ago

“I have a concealed carry permit myself. But, you know, on our properties, we want to maintain a safe environment, and we don’t need guests bringing weapons on site. We really don’t want that kind of surprise.”

If CCW holders detract from having a safe environment, what does that say about him as a CCW holder? Is he a danger to other people when he’s in public with a firearm?

DMH
DMH
2 years ago
Reply to  Brendan

Stated in other terms, “Ok for me, but not for thee!” Prime example of elitism. Are all their properties called “Westgate” (I don’t frequent Vegas so I don’t know the names of the hotels…), or are they known by other names?

Tionico
Tionico
2 years ago
Reply to  Brendan

reality:
If I don’t appear to wholheartedly support this me personal gravy train crashes. I have to consider my hungry kids and fussy wife The rest of the planet can go to the hot place in a handbasket.

Buck Cassidy
Buck Cassidy
2 years ago

Oh! Excuse me, BIG BROTHER!

JDH
JDH
2 years ago

Guess where I won’t be staying.

Buck Cassidy
Buck Cassidy
2 years ago
Reply to  JDH

Sooner or later, JDH, they will all have it.

John Dunlap
John Dunlap
2 years ago
Reply to  Buck Cassidy

Motorhome. I suspect that this will last in Vegas only long enough for the casinos to figure out just how much money they’ll be losing, and the SOF 3 Gun Match to threaten to move to another venue. I am very concerned about the proliferation of this technology, however. The article points out that it can detect any object on your person or in your bags, not just weapons, or, I presume, metallic objects. Aside from the obvious, such as banks and government buildings, retailers will eventually see this as a deterrent to shoplifting, and marketers will see it as… Read more »

Henry
Henry
2 years ago
Reply to  John Dunlap

Motorhome isn’t even a sure solution. Check this out:

https://missionbayrvresort.com/new-index/

And this is a park owned and operated by the City of San Diego, meaning this is a total violation of McDonald v. City of Chicago.

John Dunlap
John Dunlap
2 years ago
Reply to  Henry

You’ve discovered the RV park equivalent of Westgate Resorts. They do exist. Most RV parks aren’t so ridiculously nose in the air, and those rules aren’t enforceable anyway. Knives, or anything that could be used as a weapon? I suppose it’s just within the realm of possibility that the knuckleheads are unaware that most motorhomes and fitfh wheels have refrigerators and fully equipped kitchens. What about keys, golf clubs, or even your belt? Perhaps they prefer that guests walk around in the nude (be sure to leave your false teeth at home). Stay at a decent RV park, or if… Read more »

VT Patriot
VT Patriot
2 years ago
Reply to  Henry

Obviously, the campground must insure your safety if they expressly prohibit to provide for it. Noooo?
Why would anyone want to go with their family when they are exposed to whom ever wants to can attack? As a CCW, I don’t go anyplace that tells me they don’t want me to go there or to be safe while I am there. What are they going to do? Put an armed guard in front of my camper?? Do I feed him dinner???

Clark Kent
Clark Kent
2 years ago
Reply to  Buck Cassidy

Then don’t visit Las Vegas hotels. Problem solved.

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
2 years ago
Reply to  Clark Kent

Clark, as other posters pointed out, this is the beginning. The story also stated knives. Does that mean they won’t allow even a pocket knife? Also, I pack a large hunting knife on trips for when we go hiking, and Chefs knives because the kitchen knives in the villas usually suck.

This will only deter the law-abiding, just like any other GFZ. Someone intent on harm/killing will still enter with their weapons, and detecting them will be easy because they will be using them.

Clark Kent
Clark Kent
2 years ago

No one is forcing you to stay at any hotel, period, end of story.

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
2 years ago

So being electronically strip-searched is okay with you. Yes, so far only at this hotel as far as we know. When it is ubiquitous, then what? Normally I would assume a person I reply to isn’t that stupid and/or naive, but you have proven that you are.

Henry
Henry
2 years ago
Reply to  Clark Kent

Clark’s daddy gave that very same advice to blacks considering visiting Selma.