Full Conceal M3D Folding Glock Pistol | Video Review

YouTube personality, Graham Baates, gives us a video review of the Full Conceal M3D Folding Pistol

Full Conceal M3D

USA – -(Ammoland.com)- When initial news of the Full Conceal Folding Pistol was released I was a skeptic.  The creator promised a firearm offering more conceal-ability options, more firepower, and more safety than we have come to expect in modern carry options.  My questions were numerous.  Why add an extra step to the draw?  How safe is it?  Can 21+1 rounds of 9mm really be easily concealed?    

Full Conceal makes for a great hiking companion

Let's get down to business.  Before showing the “how's and whys” let's take a look at the, “does it actually work?”.  I hit the range with a wide variety of magazines and some hollow points.  I wanted to know folding the gun would properly align the gun to feed on TorkMag, ETS, Jagemann, ProMag, Korean magazines and more.

Perhaps, more importantly, I wanted to know if Glock's reliability had been reduced by folding the gun.  Will it feed various hollow points?  Lastly, I tested the practicality of pulling a folded gun from a pocket, assembling, and shooting.  See the range review video below.

Now back to those claims.  Here's the breakdown as I have experienced:

  • More Capacity: The M3D packs 21+1 rounds into a package that fits into a pocket.  No other pistol that I have tried can do this. Even if you could fit a Glock 17 in your pocket it wouldn't have 21+1 rounds.
  • More Concealable: Sliding the M3D into a pocket presents a print similar to a large phone.  Even the smallest of pocket .380s either look like a gun in your pocket or require a holster that consumes just as much space as the Full Conceal.
  • More Options: No relying on waist band carry makes the M3D an easy choice for hot weather or business casual attire.  Carrying the M3D meant no longer relying on a baggy shirt or awkward carry position to conceal.  The M3D also remains comfortable and accessible while seated.  I can't say that about my normal 4 o'clock carry position.
  • Safer: It is physically impossible for the M3D to fire while folded.  In fact, the gun can not fire until completely assembled.  This combined with the way the trigger guard and trigger fold (see tabletop video) makes for a greatly decreased chance of firing while drawing.  The gun isn't ready until the shooter is ready.

My initial concerns included practicality, cost, functionality, and durability.

  • Practicality: Drawing from a pocket and folding is the same amount of steps as clearing a garment and drawing.  The increased options of carry location and ease of use are a win.
  • Cost: A lot of R&D and engineering went into the M3D.  It's also made in America with a lot of by-hand labor.  Those factors drive up cost.  Additionally, Full Conceal delivers the same warranty as Glock.  Subtract the holster, special clothing, spare magazine, magazine carrier, and other bits required to match the capability of the M3D and the price gap narrows.  It's still not cheap, but neither is my life.
  • Functionality: No malfunctions or failures were experienced that could not be attributed to the magazine.  See the video above for magazine testing.
  • Durability:  Despite playing with the gun repeatedly, tossing it in a pack for hiking, and range time I found no evidence of wear and tear.  Full Conceal's warranty covers any failures.

Am I impressed? Yes.  Would I endorse the M3D? Yes.

The industry needs innovation like what Full Conceal has brought.  As the world continues to get more dangerous we need to continue to find ways to protect ourselves and our loved ones.  Full Conceal offers a solution that breaks the status quo.  For a closer look at how this pistol works see the tabletop video below.


About Graham BaatesG B Guns

“Graham Baates” is a pen name used by a 15-year active Army veteran who spent most of his time in the tactical side of the Intelligence community including tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. Post-Army Graham spent some time in the 3-Gun circuit before becoming a full-time NRA Certified defensive handgun instructor and now works as an industry writer while curating a YouTube channel on the side. Visit Graham on Youtube .

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john
john
2 years ago

Currently active duty Marine, have been one for over 8 years and ive been carrying since i was 18. I know what some will say oh you can’t when your not 21 which is a lie just get it as a gift and your good. I have carried this gun for over a month and with training which people forget or fail to mention i do not see a difference in my reaction time nor do i find the action to draw any different than my standard glock 19 gen 3. Just my opinion but i personally will keep using… Read more »

Dave J
Dave J
2 years ago

My only practial experience is carrying a gun for defensive purposes in the US and abroad for close to 10 years. By training I am an engineer (10yrs experience in the field) with an MBA (3 yrs in business for myself). Gun experience tells me: last thing I want to worry about when I am desperately and in a panic trying to shoot someone to defend my family or myself is to build a rubix cube to get that first and potentially life deciding shot off. Engineering experience tells me: plenty of parts that can work wrong at the worse… Read more »

Juan M
Juan M
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave J

Lol J. Glad we saw eye to eye

Juan M
Juan M
2 years ago

I have been carrying a gun about 5 days a week for the last 8 years, 3 of those in Central America in higher risk areas. I have carried glocks, berettas, sigs, colts, s&w, rugers, and h&ks. All fine pistols, but I have always gravitated back to glocks….they just work for me. I train often and run guns hard. That said, I am lucky enough that I have never had to use one in a defensive situation; I’ve been real close, but never got to that point. In retrospect during the couple instances where I felt close to needing to… Read more »

Da’Quan
Da’Quan
2 years ago

I feel like if you’re a gang banger, drug dealer type of guy that’s always looking over his shoulder maybe this isn’t for you. Maybe you should stick with the standard “in your waist” gun. But if you’re just an average Joe that likes guns and wants to feel protected then this is perfect for you. You can be in the mall, grocery store, or picking up your kids and no one would feel uncomfortable around you because they don’t even know it’s in your pocket. AND IT’S WAY SAFER TO FOLD IT UP THAN TO HAVE THE GUN LOADED… Read more »

RAYMOND
RAYMOND
2 years ago

oh and one more thing wild bill, your 22 is a rim fire , and it is impossible for the pin to go thru the casing destroying it asshole, but on that note 223 and the 5.56 is also 22,s but are center fire rounds , but still ,if the firing pin all of a sudden started to do what your fake ass says , than its an impossibility , because the firing pin just does not start to do that shit, so one more time GO FUCK YOUR SELF………GOT THAT..

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND

@Ray, Yes, it is a rimfire. And if it is not the firing pin piercing the cartridge case, then it must be something else. But it seems to pierce where the firing used to make an indentation. I am not sure what makes you think that it is a .223. Perhaps my writing was not clear. It is a really old Belgian (I think) made single shot .22. You have to pull the end of the bolt back to get it to cock. Everything works just like it used to, except something pierces the end of the cartridge where the… Read more »

RAYMOND
RAYMOND
2 years ago

Oh and for you the revelator, you my friend , are nothing but a nut job, a physiologist friend of mine seen your post and he told me that your a psychopath by your comments, and your anger in the comments , that you where never successful in any thing in your life and was heavily criticized as a child, and was not successful in life, and that’s why you attack any and all criticism , he also told me that’s why you have a second personality (I.e ) the revelator, and that you have two personality’s and that’s why… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND

@Ray Lets review the facts. Raymond has not posted a video to youtube . Raymond has not offered substantiated proof as to his claims of being a gunsmith. Raymond is avoiding answering the five questions I have given him. I’m going to lay out the rest of my argument in a second comment in order to keep this one short for maximum exposure, but I would like you to pass along a message to your unnamed and unsubstantiated physiologist friend. Ask him why an expert on musculature and internal organs is attempting to claim expertise in an entirely different field.… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND

@Ray On to the second comment. Lets take a look at some of your claims, because right now all you are doing is throwing everything against the wall in the hopes that something will stick and get me to shut up, all while you continue to make an even bigger fool of yourself. Lets start with this one “You attack all Criticisim” First, I did not attack your criticism of the weak link in the Full Conceal. I actually agreed with that assessment. I stated this in the comment I made to you last night, March the 20th at 5:41… Read more »

RAYMOND
RAYMOND
2 years ago

Oh and wield bill , firing pins all of a sudden don’t do that kind of shit asshole,,,, so fuck you , they either brake or the spring went out …….

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND

, Well, I am not a gun smith. I could not figure out what was wrong by looking, but I was hoping that you might know. I am pretty sure that the maker is no longer in business, but I thought that maybe someone could make the replacement parts.
Gee, I haven’t been called an asshole since Iraq.

RAYMOND
RAYMOND
2 years ago

wild bill are you the wild bill gun smith out of Castro valley in California ??? if not than send me a pic on my E mail. and info, and I will work on it , send pic of casings so I can see what kind of damage…. then I will give you a price for the work , rayhplevy @ yahoo .com……..

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND

, Nope, I am a retired LTC. I live on a ranch near Yantis, Texas. The little single shot is of Belgian manufacture. I think that it was made in the 1890s. It used to work perfectly. Then all of a sudden the firing pin started piercing the cartridge casing. My hearing has not been the same since.

Andrea H
Andrea H
2 years ago

I am interested in this gun. Can you ask a lady to fire it? I’d like to know what another woman thinks about handling it and recoil. Does it sting the hand when firing it?
Thank you for the review! It’s a very interesting gun.

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrea H

@Andrea H

Thank you for being a part of the shooting sports. I hope you can find someone to fill you in from a woman’s perspective, and that you will be an encouragement for others like yourself to become educated and engaged.

tomcat
tomcat
2 years ago

Anything built by man is subject to failure. My opinion is that it looks like an accident looking for a place to happen. I’ll stick to my unhinged gun.

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  tomcat

“Anything built by man is subject to failure”

Best comment on this article so far. The beginning starts as fact, and then you had the decency to label the following as opinion and not try to piggy back it onto the quote above… I respect that a lot.

Shoot what you love brother

tomcat
tomcat
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

@Revelator thanks, I don’t comment looking for an argument. Just expressing my preferences.

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  tomcat

Which is how it should be, for everyone.

I typically comment for the same reason, or to offer clarification for other readers going through comments later. The one thing that gets my argument button going is when I see blatant hypocrisy. Other than that, peace on earth to men of good will if you know what I mean.

Best wishes to you

OldJarhead
OldJarhead
2 years ago

This might be useful as a BOB gun or as a hidden-in-my-desk gun for a non-permissable area, but it makes no sense as a carry gun. The Tueller Drill tells me all I need to know. With average times of 1.5 seconds for an attacker to cross 21′ or 2 seconds to cross 30′, there is no time to unfold the gun and/or rack a slide. The reduction of fine motor skill performance under stress would only make these greater failure points. With most pistol use happening at ranges of less than 10′, and a significant number of contact or… Read more »

Graham Baates
Graham Baates
2 years ago
Reply to  OldJarhead

The M3D can be carried with one in the chamber. Did you see my first attempts at drawing? It’s no slower than clearing a garment in my experience.

RAYMOND LEVY
RAYMOND LEVY
2 years ago
Reply to  Graham Baates

what drawing, you did not draw it say like from your pants or any thing of that matter its just a gadget and that’s all , if you carried that concealed and tried to draw that thing folded, you would lose your life , you would get shot four times before you even flipped that thing into action ………………..

Graham Baates
Graham Baates
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND LEVY

Start the shooting impressions video at 5:02 to see my first time ever drawing it. No practice, just trying it out.

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  Graham Baates

@Graham Raymond most likely did not watch either video. His only purpose here is to bag on you man, so about the only thing you can do is issue the response you did earlier, thank him for wishing you luck, though he won’t understand what you are thanking him for because he is too busy imagining being patted on the back. Don’t expect to see any honest reviews from Raymond on YouTube anytime soon. Personally I think you did a reasonable review, and while I will never buy one, I can see the merit in the system for those forced… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  OldJarhead

@OldJarhead Then by your own admission, a semi automatic firearm makes no sense as a carry gun. Please allow me to explain this logic before you get upset with what I have just said. A modern Semi-Automatic firearm can be manufactured to be as completely reliable as possible, this is true. Also, ammunition today is much better than previously. However, ammo is still the weak link here, and an ammo failure can cost a person the same amount of delay as deploying the Full Conceal discussed above. The entire reason we have “Tap and Rack” drills is for first round… Read more »

RAYMOND LEVY
RAYMOND LEVY
2 years ago

I would not buy this crap, by the time you pull that thing out and try to unfold the dame thing I would of shot your ass four times , impractical and ludicrous , nothing but a dame gadget , and that’s all it is,

Adam P.
Adam P.
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND LEVY

Raymond, it doesn’t seem like you actually understand that while it’s folded it’s more safe than your standard pistol. It has to be almost all the way unfolded before the round can go off and it would make the most sense to keep the barrel pointed in a safe direction while you unfold it (which even a caveman can do). So while you are being sarcastic about getting your ass shot 4 times (which with this system you couldn’t do it unless you were a moron), compared to typical sub-compact single stack guns that have a 6rnd capacity, a Full… Read more »

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago
Reply to  Adam P.

I think he was saying he would have been capable of shooting you 4 times, not shooting himself in the butt 4 times. Since I’ve not seen one, much less handled and shot one, I cannot comment on that about which I know nothing. As with anything, practice is what gets you there, I don’t care if it’s a single shot .22LR, or the infamous Eargasplittenloudenboomer. Since my finances are some what restrictive, I can’t afford to seek the new Glock out. I’ll just continue to carry the Glock 19 I have and that I know exactly everything about it,… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  Kevin

@tiger No, Raymond is just someone who thinks his opinion is the end all be all no matter what evidence or facts may be presented. His replies, both to Adam and the author both speak to this. Notice, discussing how he would have annihilated the author, his bitterness toward the object itself in calling it a gadget, lack of proper grammar, and attitude in general. Essentially, he’s a legend in his own mind. As it stands, his opinion has no weight or meaning. It might one day have merit should he be able to extricate his head from his rectal… Read more »

RAYMOND
RAYMOND
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

So you attack my age , and by the way I am 54 years old and most likely have been shooting a lot longer than you, and my intelligence ?? than why don’t you make a video that proves that your toy does what you clamed ?? fold that thing up and carry it counseled and have someone play the roll of an assailant , and have him pull his gun and see how fast you can get your toy into action , because that’s the vary thing I am talking about , all I am doing is asking you… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

@Ray Goin all out on the green beer still Raymond? First of all, I attacked your maturity. Age and maturity are two different things, so being 54 years old really doesn’t account for much if you still act like you are 9. Second, I am not the author. I do not own a Full Conceal. All I did was point out that you have become offended by an inanimate object, a product which you are neither forced to believe in or purchase, yet it’s very existence and the fact that some people might find merit or purpose in its design… Read more »

RAYMOND
RAYMOND
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

the so called revelator , you attack me and call me all kinds of names your the snowflake asshole, and for your info I am a third generation gun smith , I can and do take a block of steel and turn it into a gun, can you do that????? I also have been shooting since I was 8 years old, and have studied ballistics and bullets, and how they perform in divers whether , there are no aspects of shooting or guns that I do not understand , and as far as this gun, all I see is an… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

@Ray Hmmm, Nice to say on a site with anonymous pseudonyms. It’s very easy to say that you are a gunsmith and list out all of your qualifications, but………….. Where is your video? Where is your proof? Sorry, but are no more than one of a billion on the internet. Your story could be true, or it can all be a bunch of made up lies. I could share how I grew up shooting and hunting with you, but you don’t have to believe that either. The problem right now lies in your actions, and since your actions do not… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

, You write, “I am a third generation gun smith , I can and do take a block of steel and turn it into a gun,…” If that claim is true, then you are the person with just exactly the skills that I am looking fore. I have a little Belgian .22 rifle from the turn of the century, that used to work perfectly. All of a sudden it decided to send the firing pin just a little too far forward piercing the brass shell casing as it fires the round. How do I get ahold of you?

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

@Wild Bill

If that was a stealth comment, good job. 🙂

The Revelator
The Revelator
2 years ago
Reply to  The Revelator

@Wild Bill

PS~ Sounds like a firing pin spring issue, perhaps the spring has become to weak to offer the correct resistance over time.

Older firearms can be notorious for this, especially old shotguns. That is supposedly the reason we have snap caps so we can relieve the tension of those springs for storage. Had to do that for a Winchester 12 in 16ga that was my grandfathers.

RAYMOND
RAYMOND
2 years ago
Reply to  Adam P.

I am talking about your assailant shooting you four times while you are unfolding your gadget, and not shooting your self with your gadget while unfolding your new toy, like I said, its just a dame gadget and I for one would not stake my life on it , good luck trying to sell your GADGET………

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago
Reply to  RAYMOND

Agreed

Graham Baates
Graham Baates
2 years ago
Reply to  Adam P.

Thank you.