Borderline Shooting And Bloomberg Threw A Party to Celebrate

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Borderline Shooting And Bloomberg Threw A Party to Celebrate

USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- The Borderline Shooting. A cause for celebration? How about the facts.

The anti-gun left has hosted a prep-rally to celebrate the shooting that took place at the Borderline Bar and Restaurant. What is wrong with these people? Friends of mine who lost family were told not to come as this was a gun control rally, not a memorial.

Infact all they did was chant F**K TRUMP, and F**K the NRA.

Held at a local school, and packed with children to fill out the seats it looked more like a Hitler Youth Rally than a memorial.

One of the stated goals, according to organizers was to raise support for ending the gun show at the local Ventura County Fairground and forgetting the fact that in CA you cannot buy a gun in CA at a gun show. Their bigger goal is to “destroy the gun culture in Ventura County.” In case you’re wondering all the local liberal politicos were there to celebrate the mass shooting.

So, what happened at the Borderline? Why would ANYONE celebrate it? Here is what I’ve been told.

California's Anti-Gun Left Has Hosted A Prep-Rally To Celebrate The Shooting
California's Anti-Gun Left Has Hosted A Prep-Rally To Celebrate The Shooting

The fact is a disturbed young man went on a shooting spree. But it’s more than that. In April of last year, the local Sheriffs interviewed him. Declared him competent to own a gun.
The Shooter chose the Borderline because it was a gun free zone. In CA Gun Free includes on and off duty law enforcement. Even with 10 or so law enforcement officers in the building, they were more than likely unarmed to comply with the business owners request. They left their firearms in the trunk of their cars.

The shooter didn’t just randomly shoot people after they were down several were executed by the killer. He was shot while on the ground, executed in cold blood. There must be some history there as the shooter selected his targets.

The Shooter saw on security cameras when a local patrolling sheriff arrived — Ventura County Sheriff's Sgt. Ron Helus was ambushed by the shooter as he entered the building.

This brave man never had a chance, the shots that hit him forced him into the path of shots fired by a CHP officer. The CHP officer had no way of knowing about the shooter’s ambush. The officer went in and is a credit to the community. One can only imagine the misplaced guilt this excellent officer carries.

Had any of the law enforcement inside been armed the death toll would he been a fraction of what was. Sgt Helus would be alive today. Still a tragedy, yet another a loss that could have been avoided. But, a LOT less deadly than what happened if peaceful people had been armed.

As it was the law enforcement on the scene broke windows and lowered people as best they could to the ground. A few officers took the 18-foot drop out the back to help people who had fled the building through the broken windows. They treated sprains and broken legs while others stood tall to the end making sure as many people were saved as possible.

Like so many tragedies before there were MORE than enough warning signs for this to be prevented. Why we keep allowing mass shooting is a mystery to me. We do allow them when all the signs are there, and we elect to do nothing.

So tell me what is there here to celebrate? NOTHING! Using the loss to families and community to promote your political agenda is so fundamentally wrong as to be unthinkable to most of us, but not the anti-gun left.

Once again it is a Blomberg backed group passing out the party hats and serving the cake to celebrate murder. These people have no souls; they stand on the bodies of the dead to better scream their hate.

So PARTY ON you sickos.


About Don McDougallDon McDougall

Don McDougall is an NRA instructor and member of the Los Padres “Friends of the NRA” committee. If he’s not at the range, you will find him setting the record straight with on gun issues and gun safety on AmmoLand Shooting Sports News.

  • 24 thoughts on “Borderline Shooting And Bloomberg Threw A Party to Celebrate

    1. This story is so full of miss truths it’s ridiculous. My Son was in that bar. None of the stuff presented here that went on inside is true. I’m as conservative as you can get. Retired Military and I support the cause. But this is the stuff that pisses me off. Quit sting things as fact, when you don’t know what the Fock your talking about…..all your doing is giving the left loonies more ammo to attack us. STOP DOING THIS !

      1. Most all I’ve pointed out comes from people who were there or surveillance video.I have more than one source for each fact. I waited until I verified all the facts from two sources before writing the article. The Brady Campaign rally was the last piece. I needed to see how it went. I’m glad your child is OK.

      2. I am Bruce Boyer, a candidate for sheriff in Ventura County. We need to talk. watch the video and please reply.

    2. Simple facts. Fact, there are bad, evil people out there. Fact, if you should be parted from your tool(s), you remove from yourself a mired of options and choices. Un armed your choices are limited more so than if you were armed. In the above situation, choices were few: Run, hide or die or all the above. This sad lack of options was/is because of “gun free zones.” Had you been armed, you would have had all the previous choices along with the choice to engage/stop/forcibly detain the shooter and live. You can’t out run a bullet. As illegal as it is in some places, civil disobedience as far as being armed goes at least is, preferable to either having to watch others being murdered or having yourself being murdered. I avoid places that don’t want armed people to be present. That being said, concealed carry in a place like that, lends some comfort to your friends and loved ones around you who KNOW you are armed and KNOW will do whatever it takes to give them the best possible chance for life in an otherwise impossible situation. Life is worth defending even when it is not your own, your loved ones, your friends, your neighbors. Having to watch someone being murdered while having no way to help the victim or stop the aggressors is something I have to live with the rest of my life. These days and for many days, years, decades prior, I don’t go anywhere unarmed. I go to sleep with my tools within easy reach. When I get my pants on, my tool is the next thing on. Every day. All day. Armed. It is not about John Wayne or Wyatt Earp or machismo, it is about choices. It is about defending human life. Life is worthy of defending even if, especially if, you are a gun free zone. Being armed, you may be the ONLY hope that innocent people have to live, at least until the Calvary arrives. The fact is that evil people will use gun free zones as a method of raising their body count. That is the world we live in. We know this is true. We have all seen or heard of evil people doing just that-using gun free zones as enhanced target practice. Think about this. After 911 happened there will NEVER again be a hijacking of an airliner in the U.S. because the passengers all KNOW if they don’t stop the bad guy their chances of living are zero. They HAVE to fight. There is just no choice. I will wager the poor, off duty cops who were at that bar, will never go unarmed again. They had their 911 moment and I hope they learned from it. I hope we all learned from it. Stay alert, stay aware of your surroundings, stay prepared. Arm up, carry on.

    3. Avoid gun free zones, nobody need to go into a bar…. I avoid any place I can’t carry a gun unless I absolutely need to go there like a post office or a court room. If my gun is not welcome, then I am not either.

      1. Court rooms are TRULY gun free zones, as they inspect, wand, pat down, everyone who enters, and those who are armed when they show up and declare themselves are led to a locked gun safe where they are free to place their own, take the key along with, return when their court business is concluded, use the key they’ve held, and reclaim their gun without any supervision, then leave the key in the lock for the next user. Not even the bailiff or guards are armed inside the courtroom. This is due to a case when a rowdy in-custody accused managed to wrench himself away from the guards and attack an armed one, teking his gun and using it. They realised NO ONE in there can be armed…. Probably one of the ONLY truly gun free zones in existence.

        Post office? Who knows, who cares? It would have to be a FEDERAL officer of some sort to “make’ a citizen who is arme,d and take action. I’ve never seen such a officer in any of our local PO’s.
        There is NO REASON to demand law abiding citizens to disarm before they even enter the car park at the local PO. It is no different than any other retailstore. If I can legally carry in a WalMart or Safeway, what’s different about the post office> Sure, back in the processing area…. but the public can’t get back there anyway.

        Now, any of the OTHER theorietically “gin free” zones, forget it. Either I go in there armed, or I don’t go.

        1. Have not seen any of those signs on PO’s around here . Used to carry all the time (concealed of course) . Been in and out many times .. Alas that was before I lost everything I had in a boating accident ! Had to drop my CC cuse it was dragging me down.

        2. @Tionico Would you like a cake with a file, because you are going to need one… Code of Federal Regulations – Title 39 – which is named “Conduct on Postal Property” says “No person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.” You need to read the laws before you end up in Federal prison.
          Here in Texas, property owners can decide gun carry access. 30.06/30.07 ( no access concealed/no access open carry. and all bars that obtain more than 51% of their income from alcohol no gun access. I don’t always agree with the posting but I follow the law.

          1. How in the hellz of hades can a simple law or regulation trump the U S Constitution???? The 2af says shall not be, not may be…… it says perfectly that the federal government has no right or authority to regulate or legislate 2af affirmed rights. This also applies to secondary lawmakers such as states. Justice Thomas said it correctly when he stated 20k gun laws on the books were unconstitutional. Thomas Jefferson would have hauled this trash out on the white house lawn and shot them as the traitorous cur dogs they are. The camels back straw weight limit approaches quickly. The whirlwind they reap shall be of their own doing, too stupid to quit poking the gorilla. If and when this happens, the left winged will still deny it happened as they are placed on boats to cuba and Venezuela, thinking their new homes will be paradice.to wit, I say, fuck them, fuck them forever in fire…..

      2. I go a little further…

        I won’t go to the post office, and I’ll never go to a courtroom (unless as a defendant, in which case I’ll be forceably disarmed, anyway). In my state, “no gun” signs do not carry weight-of-law, so I will never be without my handgun… although I always carry concealed, never open-carry.

      1. The self appointed elitist/authoritarian criminals supporting criminals, amazing, I guess it takes one to know one from the top to the bottom.

    4. Mr. McDougall, please forgive me for correcting your use of language, but it’s important. This was not a tragedy. It was an atrocity. Tragedy implies a lack of a responsible party. This shooting was a deliberate and premeditated act of malice, aided by politicians and bureaucrats who ignore common sense measures while pursuing a campaign to render the citizen defenseless, and impotent to prevent those same politicians from turning us into chattel. Gun control advocates are guilty of aiding and abetting murder, and celebrating their handiwork. They deserve our opprobrium. They deserve to be reviled. The language we use to describe their actions, and the results of those actions, should always clearly express that reality.

      1. Thank you for setting that straight. It was a criminal atrocity. I am Bruce Boyer, candidate for sheriff in Ventura County. My friend Don did not make it clear that there were TEN cops inside when ’shots fired” The ARMED COPS (two were on duty) THEY ALL RAN! The cops left the college students to be executed! The truth is admitted! Feb. 2019 You Tube Bruce Boyer for Sheriff
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1PUW90vFU Oxnard City Council – Police Chief Report on Borderline Bar and Grill Shooting, admits TWO Oxnard PD officers inside, and on-duty; they ran!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jedPoYFqGvg News Conference Nov 27, 2018 – Borderline Shooting. They admit to EIGHT more cops inside. Who ran!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzvE23RU2s 20 year cop Mike Chilton shares some of the truth as to the Borderline shooting. The cops were armed; they ran… Mike calls them out as the cowards they are.
        https://youtu.be/mZixk3XHFeQ Breaking! New Borderline Bar Mass Murder details: Crime file news
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcABNo_7XWU Borderline Bar Shooting, Is There a Coverup? Crime file news
        https://youtu.be/USV47kHES6M Borderline Bar Mass Murder Perspective from Ventura County Sheriff’s Candidate, Bruce Boyer Crime file news

        https://youtu.be/0E8uDF71jww Paul Huebl calls on the City Council for transparency as to the Borderline truth

    5. Don’t worry though, those Red Flag laws the NRA is pushing would have totally prevented this and ceased the left from seeking further infringements on our rights.

        1. “Your Worst Nightmare” lol.

          Nice how you skipped the argument again Don, i see you haven’t changed at all.

          Though why would I need to do anything with Bloomberg? Heck I could just send the NRA some more money if I wanted gun control, Bloomberg has nothing on them.

          But as I said, we just have to give up a few more things, then the left will atop taking our rights, right? That’s the NRA’s plan isn’t it? That’s certainly their history, that’s what the Shills have said their plan is.

          When will you cowards take a stand?

          My worst nightmare isn’t a guy, or group that bends over and drops drawers when asked, as they mumble “okay but this is the last time.” Yea you said that an hour ago, yet you’ve done it again.

          1. Says the person who has done nothing to support the Second Amendment but provide lip service and divisiveness. How convenient.

            1. Oh, do I know you? Heck I just met with one of my Senators the other day and discussed many gun control issues, and told him not to vote for AG William Barr, and a few other things.

              Also have been calling the other one, and my Rep.

              I’ve been talking with the governor as well on several issues.

              Also have donated to the FPC a few hundred dollars for their current fights and the GOA a slightly lesser amount. And just sent off my NRA BOD ballot.

              But please if you have evidence to prove otherwise I would love to see it. Hell what have you done other then give money blindly to the NRA who’s pushing Red Flag laws? Are you active at all? Do you even know who you’re Senators and Representative are? What about your state rep and governor?

          2. My friend Don did not make clear that of the TEN cops who are confirmed to have been inside TWO were ON-Duty! Watch! Eight others were off duty; some were armed! If people want to tell me cops go aropund off-duty and leave their guns at home I am calling BS on that! ‘Bars that have a ‘no-weapons policy” means it applies to knives and such NOT CCWs and NOT off-duty cops! “Security” does not frisk or pat down people. They are there to deal with drunk jerks. I have done security for a hundred bars; never had ONE that said no guns for cops, I have been at the Borderline MANY times Fact is of those ten cops many were armed; the ‘man in charge” refuses to disclose as to armed. You can watch and then you will figure it out to. I am a candidate for sheriff in Ventura County; I will bring out the truth and uphold our constitution. Borderline Shooting: The truth is there were TEN cops inside when ’shots fired” The ARMED COPS (two were on duty) THEY ALL RAN! The cops left the college students to be executed! The truth is admitted! Feb. 2019 You Tube Bruce Boyer for Sheriff
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1PUW90vFU Oxnard City Council – Police Chief Report on Borderline Bar and Grill Shooting, admits TWO Oxnard PD officers inside, and on-duty; they ran!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jedPoYFqGvg News Conference Nov 27, 2018 – Borderline Shooting. They admit to EIGHT more cops inside. Who ran!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzvE23RU2s 20 year cop Mike Chilton shares some of the truth as to the Borderline shooting. The cops were armed; they ran… Mike calls them out as the cowards they are.
            https://youtu.be/mZixk3XHFeQ Breaking! New Borderline Bar Mass Murder details: Crime file news
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcABNo_7XWU Borderline Bar Shooting, Is There a Coverup? Crime file news
            https://youtu.be/USV47kHES6M Borderline Bar Mass Murder Perspective from Ventura County Sheriff’s Candidate, Bruce Boyer Crime file news

            https://youtu.be/0E8uDF71jww Paul Huebl calls on the City Council for transparency as to the Borderline truth

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