What “Unsigning” the Arms Trade Treaty Means for American Gun Owners ~ VIDEO


Fairfax, VA – -(Ammoland.com)- Last Friday, President Trump took the historic step of ordering the “unsigning” of the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty during his address to the NRA-ILA’s Leadership Forum. President Trump’s action effectively withdraws the United States from the most comprehensive effort towards international gun control.

Much of the intervening coverage on the ATT has focused on how the treaty did or did not constrain U.S. arms sales abroad, but many average law-abiding gun owners may be questioning how the treaty could or couldn’t have affected them.

NRA’s complaints regarding the treaty have always been based on its potential effect on law-abiding American gun owners. Those complaints have focused on the treaty’s requirements for end use verification, its sometimes-unintelligible vagueness, its ability to be amended without the consensus of all parties, and its proponents repeated refusals to clarify that it has no effect on the possession of small arms by civilians in the United States.

The treaty urges record keeping of end users, directing importing countries to provide information to an exporting country regarding arms transfers, including “end use or end user documentation” for a “minimum of ten years.” Each country is to “take measures, pursuant to its national laws, to regulate brokering taking place under its jurisdiction for conventional arms.” Data kept on the end users of imported firearms is a de-facto registry of law-abiding firearms owners, which is a violation of federal law. Even worse, the ATT could be construed to require such a registry to be made available to foreign governments.

The vagueness of the treaty and its ease of being “amended” is best exemplified by actions that took place at a conference on the treaty last year. At that conference, proponents of the treaty “welcome[ed]” several living documents into the ATT. While seemingly innocuous on its face, this change incorporated the International Small Arms Control Standards (ISACS) into the ATT.

Falsely described as established “international standards” or “international norms” that “provide clear, practical and comprehensive guidance to practitioners and policymakers on fundamental aspects of small arms and light weapons control”, the ISACS are in reality a series of six standards developed by the UN for states to use in implementing their global disarmament agenda. Series 3 – Legislative and Regulatory – and its Module 3.30, “National Regulation of Civilian Access to Small Arms and Light Weapons,” is the most alarming of all the ISACS.

Purporting to set the standards for “National Regulation of Civilian Access to Small Arms and Light Weapons,” Module 3.30 creates a means to almost entirely limit civilian access to small arms under the guise of International Humanitarian Law, International Human Rights Law, and Gender Based Violence. Highlights include, but are not limited to; a ban on civilian possession of “military” style arms – no automatic weapons or magazines with over a 10 round capacity, ballistic recordings, different risk classifications on types of firearms (i.e. calibers over .45 are an intolerable risk to public safety and semi-auto handguns and rifles are high risk), licensing and registration of all firearms, training and storage restrictions, waiting periods, 20-year record retention requirements of sellers, age limits and requiring a demonstrated need to possess a firearm, with self-defense not being one of them.

While incorporation by reference of the ISACS into the ATT was alarming, it was also not entirely unpredictable. As with every anti-firearm UN initiative, concern must never lie entirely with what is in it now, but with what it will become and how it will be used by a future U.S. administration, especially one seeking international justification for a gun control agenda.

Perhaps the easiest way to understand the future danger the ATT posed to U.S. gun owners is the complete refusal by proponents of the treaty to limit its application to civilian arms.

NRA and other opponents of the treaty repeatedly asked for a carve-out in the treaty, yet those requests were flatly denied. If the treaty’s proponents had no intention of limiting American gun ownership, why resist such a limitation to the text of the treaty?

Instead, the treaty included language in its preamble that treaty parties be “mindful of the legitimate trade and lawful ownership, and use of certain conventional arms for recreational, cultural, historical, and sporting activities, where such trade, ownership and use are permitted or protected by law.” A careful read will show that the use of arms for individual and collective defense is notably missing from this statement, and the statement creates no limitation and is really only an aspirational provision.

Please join us in thanking President Trump for protecting our firearms freedoms by removing any obligation of the United States to be bound by the “object and purpose” of the Arms Trade Treaty.

National Rifle Association Institute For Legislative Action (NRA-ILA)

Established in 1975, the Institute for Legislative Action (ILA) is the “lobbying” arm of the National Rifle Association of America. ILA is responsible for preserving the right of all law-abiding individuals in the legislative, political, and legal arenas, to purchase, possess and use firearms for legitimate purposes as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Visit: www.nra.org

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I’m still waiting to see prosecutions in Fast n Furious! Eric Holder charged with contempt of congress, how well did that go?,,He’s still running around a free man!



H. Spires

Anybody on here think that they would be better off with Hildebeast as president? Which one of the demoRats that are running for president in 2020 are you going to vote for that will protect your second amendment rights? President Trump is doing the job that we elected him to do. He has appointed two SCOTUS judges that will be on our side. He will appoint more in the future when the time comes.


Thank God for President Trump, our freedoms would be up in smoke had HC won


I just wish Alot more people were Informed of this Violation of Our 2nd Amendment Rights by the U.N…!!
If people would only do some Very basic research on “Gun Rights Violations”, they would, see for themselves just exactly what the United Nations has been trying to do for a Very Long time & Who & Why this became a United Nations “Cause”, to begin with!

Kenneth R. Santoro

Trump might look foolish to many, But he certainly Has Big Balls. The UNITED STATES of AMERICA had Big balls once, That is is the only reason we all have it as good as we Currently do! The U.S. didn’t get to where we are with Fucking Pussy Men and Women back in 1st, 2nd, World Wars. If we lose WW3, it is only due to the fact of the Limiting parties dictating… that Have Absolutely, No Balls… Some things just need to be said!! If you Do Not Agree, Then you are definitely the issue. MAGA FOREVER, AND KEEP… Read more »

uncommon sense

Get RINO Trump’s balls out of your mouth, pathetic cultist shill.
Guy has done more socialism and gun control than Obama. You cheer.
No wonder the lifelong NY liberal conman loves the poorly educated. Look at you.


You better thank God for whoever keeps him from undermining our rights, how quick did he jump on the bumpstock bandwagon? Is he better than hillary, of course but he’s still a new yorker and that should’ve set off some warning lights…


When the current Trumpstock lawsuit gets the ban rescinded due to it’s unconstitutional administrative law nature what precedent will be set?
What other unconstitutional administrative laws stand to be ruled against once this precedence is set?
“Political Theater”, enjoy the show.


The IRS?

uncommon sense

Yeah, RINO Trump has done more socialism and gun control than Obama, in half the time. You cheer.

W Lentz

Sorry but you sound like a lefty troll that hates Trump.
And an idiot to boot

uncommon sense

1 year on from your post….
RINO Trump did more socialism and gun control than Obama, in half the time, and with no resistance from republicans…in fact, ya’ll call it MAGA and WINNING.
He appointed two big liberal judges to SCOTUS and now has another on the way.
Is doing more socialism and gun control than Obama the “job that you elected him to do?”
RINO Trump has been schlonging your “second amendment rights” while telling you he’s protecting them. Conman gonna con, foolish mark gonna mark out.


I wish we’d get out of the UN altogether. Then kick them out of the country. They have represented U.S. citizens best interests. Leftism is a disease that must be eradicated.

W Lentz


Arizona Don

Barack Obama supported things like this for a reason. He had to get the guns out of the citizens hands in order to install his fundamental transformation and he gave that goal his utmost attention but failed. He further promised a federal police force just as well funded, trained and equipped as our military. He failed to get the guns and therefore failed in his fundamental transformation. Perhaps you noticed he failed to explain either of those promises. I think on purpose. No democrat asked (and I also did not hear a public question from republicans either) as to what… Read more »

Ziggerman Nobody

In 1935 the American Corporations gave hundreds of millions to Germany’s National Socialist government. When interview by dozens of American newspaper reporters, they publicly declared they loved Germany’s NSG because it had achieved in 6 years what they had fantasized about doing, but failed in bringing about, ever since the day George Washington signed the charter for the First Bank Of The United States to exist in absence of any checks and balances. Furthermore, they said what they fully intended to do was create an American version of that same government on American soil. America has been headed in that… Read more »

Paul Kersey

President Trump can reverse the import ban executive order from 1989 anytime with a pen.
But he won’t.

Wild Bill

@Paul K, It was a BATFE rule making exercise. It is in court, now. If it was an executive order we could all just ignore it. We do not have to obey executive orders because we do not work for the Executive.

uncommon sense

Yet RINO Trump ordered BATFE to classify parts as machine guns and pave the way for a semi-auto ban.
And you think RINO Trump is powerless to make BATFE change BATFE rules? Who does BATFE report to?

W Lentz

He said look into the bumpstock.
Dummies like you have one thing on your mind, you didn’t or can’t get your range toys.
And your name says it all.
Sorry but Trump has done more gor gun owners in the last 4 years than any President in the last 40 years


I agree with your comment. “john kerry” is the TRAITOR that signed this “agreement” with the “blessings” of the DNC/DemocRATic Nationalist Committee APPOINTED anti-American muslem, 0b0z0. It was NEVER RATIFIED by Congress. Thus it was NEVER a “treaty”.
Just like 0bamaDON’Tcare was SUPPOSED to lead into GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE COVERAGE which has/had the DEATH DEPARTMENT who decided who would get CARE or NO CARE.
This “gun control agreement” was SUPPOSED to guide America into a SOCIALISTIC GUN FREE SOCIETY such as Venezuela or many other COMMUNIST COUNTRIES.

The Hulk



You said it, Brother!


The reason this was not a treaty is that the agenda of the former president Obama knew that a treaty had to be approved by a vote of the U.S. Senate, and there was no way in hell that the Senate would pass such a lopsided treated. It gave Iran the chance to guarantee to get a nuclear weapon within 10 years. America,like most of the world’s leading nation’s,cannot afford to have an armed with nuclear weapons Iran nation sitting in the middle east. Because once they get one they will certainly use it. And Israel will most assuredly use… Read more »

uncommon sense

LOL you have progressive RINO cuck as president. Chump is not a strong man, he’s just a lifelong NY liberal conman who has done more socialism and gun control than Obama, wants to do more, and has you cheering for it.
“I love the poorly educated.” – RINO Trump
Gee, I wonder why.

W Lentz

Sorry but calling the President doesn’t help make anyone think you are a critical thinker.
Tou sir are just an antigunner posing as a 2A proponent that hates Trump

Roger Halstead

What all too many forget is “Regardless of the constitution”, States, Cities, and the federal government often pass and enforce laws that are contrary to the constitution.

When it comes to the individual, the onus is on the individual, to raise the substantial money (Possibly millions) required to take the fight through the court system. A system that is becoming politicized. Look at the far left leaning 9th district court as an example.

There are far more examples than there is room to list here!

W Lentz

True but atleast we have GOA and some others trying to rectify the problem


The UN is a one world order organization and it’s headquarters is located right here in the USA. They are run by the third world countries that would like to see us defeated. Signing off this piece of trash gun control was a wise move but not enough. We need to move them the hell off our soil and resign from participation. Maybe the idea of keep your friends close and your enemies closer is the plan but getting out of their grasp would be even better. Afterall, it is our money that is keeping them going because some of… Read more »


Absolutely Agree!! Get the USA out of the United Nations. Now.


“Get US out of the UN!”
I gave away loads of those bumper stickers and buttons…. in 1967!
My parents worked for Wallace for president. I was only seven, but I still handed out lots of those stickers.

Larry Usoff, US Navy Retired

Nothing that the UN does, or tries to do, should supersede our Constitution, and the most important “take-away” from this is that Americans have the RIGHT to own guns. That should NEVER be compromised in any way.

William Kuhn

Contained in Article VI, USC: ” . . and all treaties made, or shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.”

Wild Bill

@Billy D. Kuhn, your truncated version gives a false impression of the importance to treaties. The missing portion, when added back in, supplies the proper meaning g of Article VI, clause 2, to wit, and specifically: “This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made,or which shall be made under the Authority of the United States shall be the supreme Law of the land; and the Judges in every state shall rebound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.” With the… Read more »


Ah, the lie of omission. The favorite trick of all lefties, antis, antifa, etc. Or just anybody who’s read or heard of, Saul Alinsky. If you only leave something out, you can always excuse yourself later by saying something creative, like “I didn’t know about that”! That’s about as ‘creative’ as Alinsky readers get. I get the impression they mostly need cheat sheets to remember how to tie a shoe. “23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials,… Read more »


Mr. President, I find myself again, thanking you Sir. It is getting to be a habit, I am happy and proud to say. You have done more than anyone in my memory to effect the preservation of freedom and personal liberty and have done so under some of the harshest conditions and despite terribly unfair domestic criticisms. You came at a time when the country desperately needed your leadership and still does Sir. I realize the tremendous abuses you and sadly, your family, have been subjected to by the seditious trash that opposes you and as an American I am… Read more »


Never forget:-
it was NRA leadership, Wayne and Chris. That suggested the BATFE should reclassify “bump” stocks. Before Trump said a word.
All the NRA want is $$$$$$$$$ they don’t care about WE THE PEOPLE.

Wish this place would focus more on the activities of GOA. Less self congratulation and MORE ACTION.

wood and steel

GOA is just as bad as NRA. Second amendment foundation is far better than both NRA and GOA


No, they aren’t. And you know it, which is why you’ll just post and run away (or attempt a distraction away from the issue by picking fights…), instead of trying to defend WLP, who is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg…. and YOU KNOW THAT! But could care less. Either you are in his hip pocket, or too conditioned to do other than parrot what you ‘heard’, ‘somewhere’… but don’t even know where. I can’t think of any other reasons, and NOBODY will try to defend WLP anymore, because it’s now too foolish even for the brain dead.

Casey Ellis

What a bunch of bull. Keep in mind both Trump and the NRA approved the ban of bumpstocks, which made felons out of probably millions of law abiding citizens. And don’t forger it was Trump, not Obama, who said “take the guns first, due process later”. All this is is a half ass attempt to keep the Trump and the NRA to stop looking like the Funds they are. Trump and the NRA are bleeding supporters. We’re all getting exactly what we paid for

Casey Ellis



So, we should have remained signed on to the treaty? What a bizarre point of view!

Casey J Ellis

Well in all honesty I never heard of this treaty, and it hasn’t had any affect on my ability to own firearms

You know what I have heard of?
Trump and the NRA calling for bumpstock bans
Trump calling for violating due process for gun owners
No initiative to pass national resaprosity
No initiative to remove silencers from the NFA
No initiative to remove the NFA
No initiative to remove the 1986 gun control reform

This is nothing but lip service. Pretending to care about our second amendment without making any actual progress

Scotty Gunn

You should read more. The treaty went after small arms ownership in all signing countries, registration, bans,etc. I believe Obama got us into that one.


I agree with your comment. “john kerry” is the TRAITOR that signed this “agreement” with the “blessings” of the DNC/DemocRATic Nationalist Committee APPOINTED anti-American muslem, 0b0z0. It was NEVER RATIFIED by Congress. Thus it was NEVER a “treaty”.
Just like 0bamaDON’Tcare was SUPPOSED to lead into GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE COVERAGE which has/had the DEATH DEPARTMENT who decided who would get CARE or NO CARE.
This “gun control agreement” was SUPPOSED to guide America into a SOCIALISTIC GUN FREE SOCIETY such as Venezuela or many other COMMUNIST COUNTRIES.


WAYYY further back than that. The UN themselves said its origins were in the “League of Nations”. https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/att/att.html Remember the LofNs? Folded before the so-called “Great Depression” of the 1930s? Lefties have been playing the long game for decades… while the sheeple have just slept on and on…. Like Casey above. The powers that be have been pushing this issue for at least a century, but he is totally unaware. I’d bet he has never heard of the LofN at all. The newly awakened have a very tough time ahead, because it takes years just to get your head around… Read more »

Rocky Mountain

And it is said he is not a politician.
Trump Koolaid is a special flavor much like NRA Koolaid. A special blend of BS specially for armed suckers blended to that perfect high capacity tolerance. Trump got our Constitution in Colorado entirely wiped out with his demand for Red Flags. We blame Governor Polis though because Trump has that Jewish halo that you can’t speak out against because he is from God. Polis is Jewish also and he loves Muslims. This should raise large questions if your paying attention.


Why do they let KIDS, under the age of 6 on these message boards. …?#


Because there’s no way to verify age or intelligence when posters are anonymous?

uncommon sense

Worse. RINO Trump has done MORE gun control than Obama. And today, Sep 2020, the National RINO Association lies and says RINO Trump has kept his promise to defend the 2A. Lying liars.

Paul Kersey Bronx NYC

The Treaty was not Ratified by Congress.

uncommon sense

The Senate can ratify the treaty at any time. RINO Trump’s stunt at the National RINO Association stage was just a political stunt that is meaningless. Read the Constitution for how treaties work.
The treaty is not dead until the Senate formally rejects it and sends it back to the WH for disposal.
The DNC/RNC leftist uniparty is just waiting for the DNC to regain control of the senate to ratify it, to keep up the political theater image of the fake dem vs rep WWE storyline.


I don’t think you are entirely accurate. It was the people primarily the Democrats who wanted to regulate bump stocks. Nice try though…

Casey J Ellis

No. You’re right Democrats wanted the ban. But it was Donald Trump that signed the order. He called for the ban. He signed the order. He did nothing to prevent out rights from being stripped from us

Casey J Ellis

No. You’re right Democrats wanted the ban. But it an executive order called for and signed by Donald Trump. He wasn’t forced into it. He is 100% responsible


Thanks for clarifying that for all the people that don’t do simple research on there own & either believe their Friends, Co-Workers, Drinking buddies, ect, Instead of just doing a little bit of Investigative Research ( Like just looking up the “Biggest & Worst Possible” 2nd.Amendment Violation EVER ) !!

uncommon sense

“Obama administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. I’m going to ban any parts that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns.” – RINO Trump

Nice try, though, cultist moron.

James Leow

OK Casey…How many felony arrests and/or convictions have been recorded in the last two years…About as many arrests for Excess magazine capacity in Conn.??? Willing to bet you keep your wallet zipped tight for all causes to support 2nd a causes. Convenient for you, no help to anyone!


This agreement was only set in place and approved by Obama so the US could end up in a world order government and this was one way to disarm our country. We would have subjected to outside world order government rule. The whole idea was to disarm America and know each individual who owned guns to confiscate them from.

Jeff Davis

Department of State Publication 7277 was published in 1961. It was presented as a “possible” plan for disarmament of the U.S., with subsequent surrender to the communist U.N. Eisenhower’s wife mamie, who the communists had very obviously “gotten to” who was pro U.N., pro communism, and anti McCarthy. Was pushing Dwight to the left as hard as possible. Mamies successful push to the left of Dwight, and the rise of the deep state, resulted in JFK trying to right the cart, resulting in the cuban missile crisis. Results? One pissed off deep state, one debacle handled. The deep states right… Read more »


And speaking of Eisenhauer, who everyone thought was a wonderful type of person, it seems he had a bit of hidden history that has been kept from us. Do you think the WW2 was over for the German citizens on May 7, 1945 ? Well, think again ! For the disarmed citizens, especially women from the ages of 8 to 80, the war was just beginning. HELLSTORM, a rather new documentary rather recently released, explains what happened to them. And the men, caged up in open air prisons, with no food, water, sanitation, being forced to drink their own urine… Read more »


that’s not factual. hellstorm was before they declared peace & the war over. and it didn’t happen like that.
please find more than one source before you pass on information that could be detrimental to the patriots of tomorrow.
undercutting the u.s and it’s actions while claiming to be the true patriots is quite the oxymoron


@Forever….I would suggest that you read the heavily documented HELLSTORM, and discover what the timeline was. Even though some occurrences, such as the totally unnecessary firebombing of Dresden did take place before the end of the war, most of the atrocities occurred AFTER, blessed and ordered by “The Terrible Swedish Jew”. He acted out of hate and revenge, against innocent civilians who had absolutely nothing to do with the war.


I happen to know that you are correct on this issue. This is just another of those areas where those indoctrinated to believe the fantasy that “MERICA = perfection…”, will choose to blast insults at anything they haven’t heard before. They NEVER bother to do as they always bid US to do, that is: gather information for yourself. They’re perfectly happy to believe the newspaper, or the most scantily clad anchorwoman, or whoever. But never do research. That’s for those beneath their lofty position as “CNN worshiper” It took me all of a second to find that the BBC followed… Read more »


TheHolyCrow, if you hate Jews, then say so instead of this wink-wink nudge-nudge bull crap. The only oddity I could find from Eisenhower’s West Point year book page was “the terrible Swedish-Jew”. Combined with your spelling of his name, I can only presume that you hate Jews. Maybe Eisenhower did evil, but it was not any Hebrew or other ancestry that made him do so. Individuals decide to do evil or good; not lineage or other categories.


@Proctor…I’ll say whatever I feel is appropriate at the moment, thank you. Sometimes I like to make people do their own homework, which you obviously did, and now you know what Eisenhauer was. Now I would suggest you read John 8:44, and then go back and read all of John Chapter 8. It should take about 10 minutes. Let’s get this straight. It’s not “all Jews” that deserve contempt, just those who have the Mark of Cain, the ones who were descended from Cain’s line. Jesus Himself exposed them in John Chapter 8. Although they had Abraham as an ancestor… Read more »


“The Thirteenth Tribe”, was, if memory serves, by Arthur Koestler, not Kuntzler. Might have a pretty tough time finding it under that name. Printed copies were cheap back in the 90s when I bought mine, but are pricey now. But this online one is free:


Why is every article on here today from the f*ing NRA-ILA? IF ammo land turns into an nra circle **** i won’t keep coming here for news on gun rights.

Jonathan Lemaire



Why do you have to be a “JerkOff”….?!?! Obviously, someone or someone’s have to Pay for the “Right to keep & Bear Arm’s”….!! ( Thank God the NRA has been helping W/This for Decades! ! ) Have you….??? I think Not! So you want to enjoy the Freedoms of the 2nd.Amendment but not have to sacrifice or help in anyway. ..?!? Sounds about right for someone of your “Voiced Comments” So, unless you don’t have good things to say about this GROUND BREAKING NEW Development , since, Obviously, your a Gun Owner, why say anything like what you said @… Read more »


Gun Rights would have been more secure WITHOUT the NRA.
1968 GCA
1986 import ban


Paul, surely you jest. The NRA has been the longest-standing, outspoken, ongoing organization to speak up and legislatively defend gun owners rights. Gun Owners of America, GOA, has been in the forefront as well, since 1975. Please so some research online and read about the comprehensive efforts they’ve made on behalf of ALL gun owners in the USA, not just those who are members of the NRA organization. All other organizations pale in comparison. And remember, NRA is composed of lawful, gun owning, American citizens who love their country and her freedoms. Protecting them is the primary concern, Enjoying them… Read more »


Where did you hear all of those ‘facts’? Oh, yeah. On CNN. I forgot.
So you believe CNN and MSNBC now? 🙂

uncommon sense


“The National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871.”

—NRA Executive Vice President Franklin L. Orth

NRA’s American Rifleman Magazine, March 1968, P. 22

W Lentz

Yep it is just LaPiere and his cronies that are screwing up the NRA

Dale Gamby

this is not 1968 or1986.

MAJ. Gray

Correct it is not 1968. It is also not 1986 when Ronald Reagan issued his infamous executive order banning U.S. citizens from purchasing any more newly manufactured fully automatic weapons. As a former U.S. Army MAJ. I can attest that personal weapons are generally far more effective in semi auto as opposed to full auto due to the shooters ability to recover more quickly and get back on target faster with well aimed shots vs full auto. Generally, the SAW, M-60 and J.M.Brownings 50 cal. are light years more effective on full auto. There are a plethora of reasons for… Read more »

Mr. Walkker

MAJ. Gray nailed it in his posting. His quote of:
– “Of all the states I was stationed in Alaska was the most polite. If you separate Native on Native crime from non-Alaskan natives, Alaska has one of the lowest crime rates. ”
– I too served in Alaska, albeit way back in in 1978, and I agree 100%.
Alaska was the most Polite, and still is to this very day.


Because an armed society is a polite society. Now that we’re almost disarmed…. how polite are we? I don’t see much politeness ANYWHERE today. Not on the roads, not on TV, and certainly not in Washington DC, or Richmond, or pretty much any place else with politicians anywhere nearby. And Antifa. How polite are they? Even on these pages, only a few are actually polite (ya’ll know who you are 🙂 ). Many seem to be ‘superman’ and his sock puppets, or of similar ilk. Those who only can speak in insults, because hatred (of everything, including themselves) is all… Read more »

Arizona Don

Gun owning societies are polite societies. Where guns are banned are dangerous societies. In Honduras for instance guns are banned completely to the point only government officials can have them, under any circumstances, and it most years has the most gun deaths per Capita of any nation in the world.


1934 NFA

uncommon sense

More than that. The National RINO Association supported:
-NFA 1934
-FFA 1938
-GCA 1968
-1986 import ban
-Creation of national gun control database of second class citizens; requirement to get permission from government to buy/keep arms
-permission slip requirements to bear/carry arms
-ammo bans
-red flag laws/gun confiscations
-parts bans.
-de facto registration
-gun free zones

National RINO Association: Compromising away the second amendment on your behalf since 1871, because “shall not be infringed” has a whole bunch of invisible exceptions that only the National RINO Association can see with their secret decoder ring.

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uncommon sense

The National RINO Association is the oldest gun control organization in history; behind every major infringement on the books.

rich z

Red Flag Laws SUCK So to with the U.N. Just take a close look at BOTH They both hate the people who own guns and love the country.

Terril Hebert

We were never part of this proposed treaty anyway. The unsigning is just fluff. Treaties are not valid unless given the consent of the Senate.


True enough.. BUT, as hard as the kinyun tried to get it ratified by the then-sitting Senate, he could not. Today’s Senate would naver ratify it either. But how do we KNOW some hocus pocus in the future might not somehow manage to get it ratified? There is no time limit on ratification. Besides, there have been attempts by various of the One Worlders to impose the terms of the Arms Trade Tready upon us simply because our paid shill at the top put his isgnature on the treaty. I am glad it is being rescinded. Now we will be… Read more »

Tom H.

The next Congress if controlled by Dumacrats will definitely try something to restrict guns or ammo.

Barry l.

And they may very well start a war right here at home. Hate to say it, but it’s true.

Ansel Hazen

That is an absolute given at this point. Myself I’ll be at 3 trainings this month.

uncommon sense

Correct, but “unsigning” is fake. The US Senate still has the treaty and can still ratify it at any time.

The DNC/RNC leftist uniparty is just waiting for a DNC majority in order to keep up the appearances of WWE style political theater.


My autistic teen is getting ready to start a regimen to include medical marijuana. He is highly aggressive and has been medicated by standard pharmaceuticals since the age of 4. This is a hail-Mary-pass, and I’m praying it will have a drastic effect on him. However, since he is a minor, I had to register as his “caregiver”. This prohibits me under federal law from buying, selling, transferring, or owning a firearm. Personally, I think this is absolutely BS. And if I attempt to buy a gun, I automatically open myself up to prosecution. If I lie on the form,… Read more »


Just curious, engaging in private sale also prohibited and how is that monitored?

Good luck to your son.


I don’t understand how the care of your son has to do with your second amendment rights? Does it have something to do with the state you live in? To me, this has the potential to be more restrictive than red flag laws especially as or population grows older. Please , can you be more specific?

Schofield Kid

If I have this right, it’s not the care of her son per se, it’s the issue of the devil weed marijuana being in the house which will predispose her and/or her son to commit horrible criminal acts under the cloud of wickedness and wretchedness that pot induces — so goes the archaic, superstitious reasoning and ignorance of the US federal government.


@Schofield et al….Angie explained why when she said her son was “highly aggressive”, at times, I presume, and not all the time. I have a cousin who has the same type of disorder, and he is BIG, and strong. When he goes off on a tantrum, it takes 4 orderlies to control him and keep him from harming himself or others. For that reason, he must be institutionalized. It is just “common sense” that he is not allowed to even know where a firearm might be. There is no reason to have a law written, which can be abused, that… Read more »


the 1934 ConrolledSubstances Act lists cannabis in all its forms as Schedule One Conrtoled Substance.. that means, in their imagination, HIGHLY addictive, AND of NO medical use whatever. This is one of the biggest lies and scandals ever perpetrated upon the Union. It is not “highl addictive” (not addicitve at all, in fact, no more than Diet Dr. Pepper) and the very fact it is being PRESCRIBED for her son is proof it DOES have medical use. When the gun control laws were enacted, it was decided that anyone using any controlled substance could not possess arms. Why, I dunno.… Read more »


I agree with your point Tionico, but as I understand her post, since her son is a minor, she has to be registered as his caregiver. She will likely, at least legally, be administering it to her son. In the upsidedown world of law and in particular, Federal Law, this probably makes her for “legal” purposes, “a user”.


If there is a law that limits your rights, you can bet your bottom dollar that it was intended to do exactly that.


All laws limit your rights.


Just ask Encro. Im sure he will have answers for this problem. After all he is self certified genius!!

Robert Frasconi

The ATT was never ratified by two-thirds of the U.S. Senate and is therefore not a treaty. Even if two-thirds of the Senate had ratified this blatant usurpation of Rights, it would not have been a treaty, for treaties must be made pursuant to the U.S. Constitution. Treaties made outside the parameters of the U.S. Constitution are null and void. Additionally, the NRA is wrong that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. The amendment merely enshrines in the U.S. Constitution the recognition of the right that free men inherently and indefeasibly possess to defend themselves,… Read more »

John C Brunk

Bump stock prohibition IS EASILY beaten into the ground; new products are available and more are ON THE WAY! No blame necessary ….. ALL IS FINE AT THE NRA!!


The issue is not bump stocks – it is the unconstitutional taking of property without due process. It is making felons of law abiding citizens who engaged in legal commerce, then years later an alphabetic agency in the bureaucracy declares that very engagement now retroactively illegal and attaches criminal penalties. The precedent set by this concept if not overturned by the Supremes is, it matters not what other products are available (TacCon or Binary triggers) or future inventions, those to will suffer the same fate as bump stocks. A dangerous time when a product, legal to sell, to purchase, to… Read more »


A good logical comment


BINGO. Finally, someone who truly understands what the Constitution does!


And your a moron!

Robert Frasconi

So, Trump has not made bump stocks illegal by edict? So, Trump has stopped U.S. funding of the U.N.? So, Trump has stopped the disastrous wars of aggression that have morally and financially ruined America? So, Trump never uttered ,”They’re (the Clintons) good people. I don’t want to hurt them.” Banning bump stocks set the terrible precedent that any presidential tyrant can obliterate rights at whim. Imagine a President Kamala Harris by edict banning rifle scopes, magazine capacity above an arbitrary level, etc. This is the Pandora’s box this so-called 2A savior Trump has opened. He threw a sop to… Read more »


Now, I’m no grammar nazi… but something tells me that even morons know the difference between “your” and “you’re”.


Robert Frasconi, You say, The NRA is wrong that the 2nd. amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. Actually that is exactly what the 2nd amendment does, It is a constitutional guarantee that the right to keep and bear arms will not be taken by government. But that doesn’t mean anything to a power hungry government that wants and claims the right to control every aspect of our lives as if they are royalty and we are their subjects. What the Constitution and the 2nd. amendment does not do, it does not grant the right to keep and… Read more »

Robert Frasconi

You wrote: Robert Frasconi, You say, The NRA is wrong that the 2nd. amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. Actually that is exactly what the 2nd amendment does, It is a constitutional guarantee that the right to keep and bear arms will not be taken by government. But that doesn’t mean anything to a power hungry government that wants and claims the right to control every aspect of our lives as if they are royalty and we are their subjects. What the Constitution and the 2nd. amendment does not do, it does not grant the right to… Read more »


Actually that Second Article of Ammendment does not “guarantee” our right to arms. It names and recognises that right, then commands GOVERNMENT to guarantee us that right bu not allowing any limitatioins upon it. We HAVE the right, which is separate and independent of government, and predates any government, as it is given by God along with our right to life. It is a travesty that that very government chaged with PROTECTING oiur right to arms has goe way too far in infringing that right. (not to mention others….)


That is the exact meaning of: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men… ” That these, and other, rights come, not FROM government, but in spite of it. But it was too easy for the sheeple to just start worshiping the gov, instead of some other golden calf, and just ASSUME (making an ass of themselves) they must be in charge… Read more »

daniel grubb

perhaps the best spelled out take on the treaty. Thanks for sharing.

Timothy Morgan

I do thank President Trump for standing up for u.s. citizens right to bear arms which was set forth over 200 years ago by our founding fathers, in doing so they made sure that future Generations would be able to protect their home their family their property and themselves. I thank President Trump for taking a stand against all the people that are against the American people themselves. This world is a dangerous place, I for one will never give up my guns. I thank GOD for a President that sticks to his.

Timothy Morgan

I apologize the lowercase u s in my previous comment was a mistake, it should be in capital letters again I apologize


Lip service I don’t believe Trump cares for the 2nd. No government likes the idea of armed citizens. Is a thread to their power over its people.

uncommon sense

Except that he didn’t.
No wonder a lifelong NY liberal conman would tell a crowd he loves the poorly educated. No wonder they cheered. No wonder you cheer.


So Stupid…


Until a future President signs on. It ain’t over ’til it’s over.


Some will claim TRUMP has personal motives for his decision; to that I say …”SO WHAT”! Someone has to have the guts to stand up and protect OUR SECOND AMENDMENT!!


Hugo Gonzalez

Guess you all forgot after the Parkland Event, Trump saying quote, “Take the guns first, then due process.”
How do you think all the states now adopting all these ‘RED FLAG’ Laws???
*How soon WE forget.
Join the GOA, no compromise! The NRA is (((controlled opposition))), just like Trump and our less than 10% approval rated Congress. P.S. I voted for him, not his lies, like they all do.


Why don’t you look up the ” entire conversation” not just the edited version.

Rocky Mountain

Ah hah, I see that gov Koolaid is no longer working. Right on! Get em folks, don’t let em bs you and DO NOT COMPLY. US Corporation has zero authority over guns. They’re a bunch of liars, thieves and straight up criminals. That’s why they’re here now on this site trying to derail us. You want to lure a tyrant just start claiming your rights because it works every time. Founding fathers knew this and is why they wrote 2A, to lure the tyrant out and look how well it worked. Heck they even took a break from producing their… Read more »


So many biased dumbshits on this forum. Ez to tell when u speak only one side of the argument. Read a fucking book, and then set yourself on fire because you just wasted that books fucking time. STOP acting like the Constitution is America’s Bible. It’s obvious we don’t fucking follow either these days. Just continue to amend away. Change is good! And if we wanted shit to be like “the good ole days” , we’d still be killing our brothers and sisters. I like the idea of earth coming together as one, as long as I get to keep… Read more »


The US Constitution is even now, far and away, the most superior form of law and freedom to have ever existed. Americans will be glad when the EU starts committing genocide AGAIN against it’s own people so that they can finally figure it out.

Pete Howard

I mean I’m just happy for any genocide honestly


finally. rational comment.

Doctor Who

Obviously you hate Americans and Freedom and Our Constitution.
Why do you bother to discuss this issue when you are full of hate ?

Wild Bill

@DW, I don’t think he means to discuss anything. He is making outrageous comments to get responses, for which he is paid. He is not, however, a calculating fellow. He is full of the emotion commonly known as hate because his brain is subordinated to his emotions.


As all subjects are. They hate anyone free, because the animating contest of freedom is too frightening for them to contimplate. So those of us us willing to fight for our liberty is too foreign an idea to fit into their head. Its too much easier to just pick a figure and do whatever he says. Its the same motivation that makes people become Sunnies, Moonies, Non Hairy Krisnas, etc. The inability to accept any personal responsibility for anything. But then they see that we have the freedoms that they have thrown away, and cannot help but envy us. ENVY… Read more »


Encro! Whats up bro? I see your still living in your parents basement and spend all day in your underwear doing nothing. Man you are really smart as anyone of us twats can tell. Please keep posting your brilliant ideas. You make everyone feel better about themselves!!

Lou Smith

The communist sourced treaty ATT was just another step down the slippery slope into communism, perpetrated by the democrats. See https://beaconoftruth.com/7277.htm A document/plan that was well hidden, even denied by the D.O.S. until rediscovered and published in 1995. The Clinton cartel did everything possible to cover it up, say it ain’t so, even lied about eliminating the treaty. So kudos to Team Trump for realigning the maga process.

Read https://beaconoftruth.com/7277.htm and spread it far and wide. The termites will never stop drilling!

Rocky Mountain

Article states, “Data kept on the end users of imported firearms is a de-facto registry of law-abiding firearms owners, which is a violation of federal law.” Permits and registrations are also default gun registry for confiscation and now in Colorado can be used as evidence to confiscate guns under Red Flag law. When will people learn that if confiscation was not the intended purpose for what other purpose do papers serve? Founding Fathers are laughing at these gun owners who consent to confiscation by getting papers. These papers are now enough in Colorado to issue a search warrant for firearms… Read more »


Too true The Dems are always stumoing for “universal backgorund checks”. I say let them have them. Seriously.. BUT the condintion will be a radical change to Form 4473. Anyone who has purchased a firearm through an FFL will remember that form… I’ve no issue with the ifnormatioin requested on Page One, and most ot Two. But WHY do they put five lines asking the information on what it is I am purchaisng? A BACKGROUND CHECK is to see whether Charlie is a prohibited person, a citizen/legal resident, etc. Once HE is cleared, it does not matter one bit unde… Read more »

uncommon sense

“What unsigning the arms trade treaty means for American gun owners” Absolutely NOTHING. This was purely a symbolic gesture by RINO Trump…a publicity stunt put on by RINO Trump and the National RINO Association (oldest gun control organization in America). This is not how treaties work according to the US Constitution. A president signed a treaty and sent to to the US Senate for ratification. The US Senate STILL has that treaty and can ratify it any time they want to, with or without a subsequent president’s approval. The ONLY way for this treaty to be canceled is for the… Read more »

W Lentz

Sorry but obummer signed it without ratification.
And you must be one of those turds butthurt over bumpstocks.
Calling Trump a RINO is idiotic at best