Dagny Dagger 9MM Round Defeats Level 3A Body Armor ~ VIDEO

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- Austin Jones and Atlas Arms announced that they have successfully defeated level 3A body with their Dagny Dagger round.

The video released by the non-profit research group shows the founder of Atlas Arms fires their 9mm round at level 3A soft body made by AR500. The round blew through the panel and continued into the backstop of the range. What makes their round so revolutionary is that it can penetrate armor without violating the federal armor-piercing ammunition ban.

Much like Congress passing the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 because of a misconception about Glocks due to Hollywood, they also acted on bad information to ban so-called “armored piercing” bullets. In 1982, NBC ran a story on Teflon-coated bullets. Various gun control groups called these rounds “cop killers.” The report claimed that the bullets could defeat police body armor. The news organization’s claims were fake.

Hollywood helped spread the anti-gun propaganda about the bullets in movies such as Ronin and Lethal Weapon. Companies using Teflon to coat their bullets was just a marketing scheme. In actuality, the coating did nothing to increase the penetration of the bullets.

Congress took the word of the anti-gun groups, the fake news, and Hollywood on the ammunition’s deadliness and enacted a ban.

Austin Jones of www.atlasarms.org decided that he needed to use the skills he developed in making durable inflation sections for the International Space Station to defeat an unjust gun law. The engineer and his team decided to take a multifaceted approach to defeat the ban.

One of the best determinations on if a bullet can penetrate armor is the speed of the round. The law doesn’t restrict how fast a bullet can move, so the team shed some weight from the bullet and found the optimum amount of powder to use in the round. They developed a 9mm round that shooters can fire at 2225ft/sec out of a Glock 19 and 2300ft/sec out of a Glock 17.

The Federal ban also restricts jacketed bullets, so Atlas Arms made their rounds hollow points with a spike in the center. The hollow point causes a massive cavity when it hits soft tissue. Atlas Arms uses a center spike feature to penetrate the armor.

Dangy Dagger 9MM Round
Dagny Dagger 9MM Round
Dangy Dagger 9MM Round
Dagny Dagger 9MM Round

Atlas Arms uses a still yet revealed material for the spike. By keeping it under wraps, the organization hopes to improve its design to defeat even tough armor and avoid federal and state governments’ legal actions. Even if the government does ban the ammunition material, the organization has contingency plans.

The round is not cheap. Jones believes the round will run customers between $2 and $4. Atlas Arms will offer a more affordable alternative that will sacrifice some penetration. Since safety-conscious customers do have a legitimate concern of over-penetration, these cheaper alternatives might be a happy medium.

Atlas Arms plans to release the bullets’ plans so anyone can make rounds utilizing the Dagny Dagger bullets. They also plan to release a cutting code for the Ghost Gunner 3 to make round casings. The company is also filing a patent on the design so anyone will be able to look up how to make the rounds even if individual states try to make sharing the plans illegal. It would make the federal government the ones sharing the designs online.

Readers can find out more about the Dagny Dagger at www.atlasarms.org.


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John is also an Amazon best selling author and investigative firearms journalist. He lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and two sons. He can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.

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John Dunlap
John Dunlap
19 days ago

An interesting, but politically dangerous, approach. I’ve no doubt that the penetrator is a ceramic material. Most people have the means to make something like this. Similar results could probably be obtained by turning a bullet out of aluminum, or perhaps nylon or HDPE, and inserting a spike ground from some hard rock such as granite or diorite. The danger is that the political response, especially in areas controlled by the Left, probably won’t be sensible or practical. Here in the PRK, open carry protests designed to promote debate over concealed carry restrictions, instead resulted in an open carry ban.… Read more »

CapMurica
CapMurica
18 days ago
Reply to  John Dunlap

Indeed. There could be a push to outlaw any ammunition that penetrates Level 3A. Thanks jerkoffs.
There goes green tip and basically every rifle round.

toomanyhobbies
toomanyhobbies
18 days ago
Reply to  John Dunlap

anyone remember the Agila round for .45ACP, only sold in the US for about a year or two, something like 1600 FPS on a very light round that would penetrate hard object (3A) such as a car door, and open up in soft tissue…

Darkman
Darkman
19 days ago

A 12 gauge round to the lower extremities will defeat body armor every time. Once hit the victim will loose all thought of attack making a follow up kill shot much easier. No fancy bullets needed. A 12 gauge slug center mass will also offer a deterrent factor to a body armor wearing aggressor again making for an easy follow up kill shot. If you are looking for a good slug option I recommend Hog-Balls. They are some evil shit.

Don
Don
19 days ago

I have wondered why anyone would need pistol ammo to penetrate body armor. Cops would not be very smart if they carried AP ammo in their own pistols, since 10-20% of cops are killed with their own gun. I don’t know why a private citizen would need AP ammo, since they run extremely low risk of engaging an assailant wearing armor. It seems like a product without a market. I know that when I was a police officer I didn’t want such ammo, I wanted good JHP loads. As a private citizen where shootouts are even less likely, I still… Read more »

Austin
Austin
19 days ago
Reply to  Don

Perhaps you are also one to ask, “why does anyone need high capacity magazines and assault weapons?”

GAMtns
GAMtns
18 days ago
Reply to  Austin

If you knew anything about history you would not have asked this question. But since you asked: I don’t know anyone who owns an assault weapon. M4 rifles are automatic and restricted to the military. I do know some people who own AR-15’s that are semi-automatics. They own them for many reasons: target shooting, hunting and self defense. They are easier for women to shoot because they are lighter and offer less recoil. The biggest reason for the AR-15 has been true even before the Framers of the Constitution and their acknowledgment that self defense was not bestowed by government… Read more »

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
19 days ago
Reply to  Don

For the same reason anything is made/purchased. Somebody decided to make it, and like expensive automobiles, someone will buy it. Who needs a car with a 500 hp engine? It is unlikely that it will be driven on a race track. Such a gimmick! Same argument. The video that was embedded in the story earlier made it appear to have better ballistics than a federal JHP, being shot into ballistics gelatin. That would be a selling point, regardless of its being “armor-piercing”. It may also have a better ability to go through automobile glass. That is something that police would… Read more »

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
19 days ago

I thought the Teflon coating was designed not for “armor-piercing”, but to mitigate destroying the rifling in the barrel. Here is a link to a story that explains just that.

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Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
19 days ago

Crump, if you are reading these comments, please correct the spelling of the Dagney Dagger round in this story.

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax
19 days ago

Heed,
When I look it up on the Net it comes up as Dagny.

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
19 days ago

The article has been corrected. Earlier it was Dangy – thoughout the entire story, including the title. The hyperlink I have in my email notification of your post still has it as Dangy Dagger:
https://www.ammoland.com/2020/10/dangy-dagger-9mm-round-defeats-level-3a-body-armor/comment-page-1/#comment-2845454

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Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax
19 days ago

Heed,
Thanks, I saw that. Weird spelling. I went back and started to correct it to your spelling when it occurred to me that I’d better go to the source. Everything could be changed except the URL without screwing up the article. Good catch.

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
19 days ago

I also noticed that the video showing the developer firing the rounds into ballistic gelatin and through what was identified as body armor are no longer embedded in the story.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
18 days ago

Heed,
That’s odd, I see a video at the top with this URl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHDYMyR-7Ts
called 3A armor penetration test. Have you tried dumping your cache?

Deplorable Bill
Deplorable Bill
19 days ago

Use carpet stop concrete nails. You will have to come up with a way to cut them accurately. Then use/form a hollow point that the nail fits into properly. Load em hot. If you are really careful, with a little work they fit Into.,224 jackets. Been useing them for years. That point will go through lots of stuff. Test them yourself. Remember that consistency leads to accuracy.

Arm up and carry on

Dan
Dan
19 days ago

We are a headlines only country, non gun owners will take this article in a way that will fall right into the anti’s propaganda. In that respect, we’re shooting ourselves in the foot here.

MajorMike
MajorMike
19 days ago
Reply to  Dan

Dan, I’m so glad I am not the only one to see this. Thanks for your post!

Gregory Peter DuPont
Gregory Peter DuPont
19 days ago

Wonder if we can figure out the construction, weight and powder data??

Austin
Austin
19 days ago

Gotta keep the construction secret till ready. Bullet is 48.5gr, powder load is 9.2gr Winchester Autocomp for now, but still in development.

Unlicensed Bozo
Unlicensed Bozo
19 days ago

I’m getting a mixed message here…

Grigori
Grigori
19 days ago

“The round is not cheap. Jones believes the round will run customers between $2 and $4.”

Oh, about what a 9mm JHP runs in many places, these days.

Nanashi
Nanashi
19 days ago

In actuality, the coating did nothing to increase the penetration of the bullets. Congress took the word of the anti-gun groups, the fake news, and Hollywood on the ammunition’s deadliness and enacted a ban.”

Don’t forget the LEOPA was literally written by the NRA. LaPierre can’t be gone quick enough.

Norm
Norm
19 days ago
Reply to  Nanashi

Imagine what it would look like if any of the anti-gun groups wrote it. That’s what would have happened if the NRA had not written a workable one.

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
19 days ago
Reply to  Norm

Norm,
Imagine what it would look like if it had been countered instead and NOBODY wrote it. We aren’t supposed to to have high and low justice in this country.

KDude
KDude
19 days ago
Reply to  Norm

Jeez Norm. Listen to yourself. You’re OK with having your rights trampled as long as it’s the NRA doing the trampling. If you send me donations and membership dues, I’ll be glad to tell you what kind of ammunition you can have, and what kind of gun you can shoot it from. Give me your money. NRA’s gotten enough….

Xaun Loc
Xaun Loc
19 days ago
Reply to  Norm

That excuse is the reason that EVERY single piece of anti-RKBA & anti-gun federal legislation in the last 86 years has passed congress with the blessing of the NRA. All that the anti-gun groups need to do is find one fool Democrat to introduce an anti-gun ‘Wish List’ bill that they know has no chance of passing. The NRA will immediately jump on the bandwagon with a massive fund-raising campaign to fight the bill. The left will respond with a massive fund-raising campaign to “Fight the NRA” and both sides rake in the big bucks from donors who fall for… Read more »

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