Now We Know There are Armed Good Guys on Our Streets

We Drive Late at Night, and Trouble is Waiting- More Self Defense Gun Stories.
We Drive Late at Night, and Trouble is Waiting- More Self Defense Gun Stories.

U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)- The mainstream news media sells shock and revulsion to keep us watching through their many advertisements. Politicians lie to us so we will vote for them. Both have told us that guns are frighteningly dangerous and that we’d be safer if more honest citizens were disarmed. We’re tempted to believe them if that is all we know. Now, we have data that calls their story into question. We confirmed something we’d long suspected about good men and women who legally carry personal firearms in public. Now we know that concealed carry and armed defense are common.

The mainstream media tells us about crime all the time. What the news media seldom bother to tell us are the many stories where good guys stop crime with a personal firearm. We don’t see that news article even though armed defense happens several times for each time a criminal uses a gun during a crime. (Criminals only use a firearm in about 8% of violent crimes.) In contrast, our neighbors use a firearm for self-defense about as often as criminals commit any violent crime, either with or without a gun in the criminals’ hands.

Anti-gun New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was “half-right” when he told NBC’s Jimmy Fallon that there is “scant coverage” of other firearms news, because there is virtually no coverage of self-defense uses every day
Anti-gun New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was “half-right” when he told NBC’s Jimmy Fallon that there is “scant coverage” of other firearms news, because there is virtually no coverage of self-defense uses every day

One claim that the media and anti-gun advocates use is that good guys don’t carry a firearm in public. They claim that if armed defense happens at all, then it is extremely rare. That would be odd because we already know there are more than 20 million of us who have a license to carry a concealed firearm.

That doesn’t mean that 20 million of us necessarily carry every day. Until now, we didn’t have solid proof that honest citizens with a license to carry concealed in public leave their homes with a gun at all. In many states, you can carry concealed in public and the license is optional.

Now that we know they are out there in public, do good guys and gals with a gun make us safer or less safe? We’ve looked at criminal records, so we know that private citizens who have their concealed carry license are extraordinarily nonviolent and law-abiding. It is no surprise that police officers are dozens of times more law-abiding than the average citizen. What surprised me is that citizens who have their carry permits were several times more law-abiding than even the police. We can’t find a group of people who are more law-abiding and less violent than concealed carry permit holders.

When they do have to use their firearm, licensed concealed carriers are both more accurate and several times less likely to shoot the wrong person than the police. That is old news, and we were told it didn’t matter since no one except the police and criminals actually have a gun in public. We might have suspected that wasn’t true, but now we know. Now we know the media’s claims were false.

We don’t see our neighbors carry their gun because concealed carry is concealed. We don’t ask our neighbors if they are carrying a personal firearm with them in public. Maybe you ask them, but I don’t. Now, someone did.

The 2021 National Firearms Survey asked if people carried a personal firearm in public. On-duty police and security guards were considered separately. Over 50 thousand of us answered the survey.

We learned that guns and gun owners are everywhere. Two of the largest anti-gun states, California and New York, also had some of the most firearms owners compared to other states.

Where the state permits it, many gun owners carry a firearm in public for personal protection. That happens in some areas even in “anti-gun” states. There are many counties in California and in New York where ordinary citizens with a clean criminal record will get their carry permits if they ask for them. That isn’t the portrait the media paints of gun owners in those red states.

Having a personal firearm can make us significantly safer. Examples, where the armed victim defended themselves, dwarf the number of firearms accidents. Being armed increases the gun owner’s safety, the safety of their family, and the safety of their neighborhoods. About a third of all gun owners in the survey reported using a firearm for personal defense, though most of those self-defense events were at or near their home and not necessarily in public.

As you would hope, our armed neighbors were wonderfully reluctant to use lethal force. More than 80 percent of armed defense incidents ended without the defender having to fire a shot. The victim saying he was armed, showing the firearm, or threatening to shoot was enough to stop most attacks.

That is good news, but it shouldn’t surprise anyone. You don’t want to shoot someone, and neither do your neighbors who own a gun.

We also learned more from this year’s firearms survey. When we asked them, many of our neighbors said how often they go armed in public. They were offered several choices to describe how often they carried; always or almost always, often, sometimes, only in dangerous situations, and never. That created four broad categories for those who carry in public. I narrowed the end categories to 20 percent, and gave the categories of “often” and “sometimes” a range of 30 percent each.

Shown below, I estimate that over 17 million of us legally carry a concealed firearm in public every day. That works out to between one in 12 and one in 13 of the adults over the age of 21 are carrying in public each day. In round numbers, call in one-in-a-dozen adults on the street.

Of course, there are more gun owners in some states than in others. We suspected that when we found that over 50 percent of adults in some counties had their carry permits. In contrast, the state of Hawaii hasn’t granted a single concealed carry permit to an ordinary citizen this year.

In general, the fraction of carry permits issued is much lower in some deep-blue cities in deep-blue states. The obvious examples are New York, New Jersey, and California. In cities like Los Angeles, in New York City, and in Trenton, police chiefs and judges only gave concealed carry permits to their friends. Politicians and judges get permits, but ordinary citizens like us can’t.

What isn’t well known is that concealed carry permits are issued in some rural counties in California and New York. Those permits allow ordinary citizens to carry in every county in that state.

We assumed that there were no good men and women with guns on the street because we didn’t see them. Now we know they are there.

Good men and women carry their personal firearms near us even if we can’t get a permit from our sheriff. Armed Americans are at our coffee shop in the morning. They are on the road with us as we drive to work. They work next to us. They are sitting at the restaurant, and they are in the store where we shop on the way home. They are our neighbors, and they use a firearm to defend themselves over a million times each year. Good for these honest citizens, and it is good for all of us that they protected themselves and their families.

Gun ownership is common and one out of a dozen of us are carrying in public today.

Now we must ask why in some counties half the adults have their permits, yet that right is denied to all the ordinary citizens in some states.


About Rob Morse

The original article, with sources, is posted here. Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, at Second Call Defense, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob was an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.Rob Morse

 

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Dan Wos

Great article Rob!

KK

As far as I know, a NYS permit is valid in all NYS EXCEPT NYC.
Here’s a question to ponder:
Everything else being the same, if Kyle Rittenhouse had defended himself against BLACK attackers, do you think he would be free today?
Or would he be doing LIFE in prison?
. . . and would there be riots???

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incorrigible

WRONG! “Those permits allow ordinary citizens to carry in every county in the state.” In reference to NY and Cal. I don’t know about Cal. but unless things in NY have recently changed rural permits are NOT valid in NYC, Nassau, and other large Counties and Cities!

Levelhead

I appreciate the lead photo showing how to grip a 1911 properly. Notice that the trigger finger is no where near the trigger, or frame, the low grip has probably made it impossible to reach the thumb safety or depress the grip safety, and the low grip made recoil management a thing to dream of. What the hell is wrong with the editors of this blog (?) showing a picture like that. Don’t they realize that folks who read internet stuff think that what they see and read is always correct?

KK

That’s the exact same grip that the new Virginia Lt Governor had on her AR15 in her famous photo!
I commented that it was VERY DISAPPOINTING that a US Marine would grip an AR like that . . . and everyone thought I was being too tough on her.

paurus

Who sponsered The 2021 National Firearms Survey?

Bubba

Hypothetically If 9 out of 10 of the big heads in these fake media organizations, big tech companies, celebrities and politicians were to get offed at the same time, you would start seeing fair, honest and truthful reporting.
You would immediately see the people start opening their eyes to the corruption of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
That’s when change will really begin in this country.
Back to the basics is what is needed.
Just a hypotheses. 😉

Glypto Dropem

I’ve had my state permit since 1983 and carried ever since. The one and only time my firearm was in my hand at the ready was at my own front door at 01:00 early Christmas morning 2012. The individual clearly saw through the window that I was armed and chose (wisely) to leave. The state police never came that night or the next day to check things out. I never mentioned to them on the phone that I was armed. Living where I live, it has always been obvious that when the seconds counted, LE was nowhere to be found.… Read more »

2A Gun Guy

Great Article, Too Bad it won’t make it to the mainstream media.

Bubba

So true. It’s a shame.

nrringlee

Bloomberg is typical of the Progressive New Left type who allow ideology to be cheap and easy substitute for real ideas. Rather than grapple with the complexities of firearms technology, crime statistics and the mysteries surrounding collapsing cultures it is far easier to fixate on and them build an ideologocal platform upon slogans and chants. And that is exactly the case with Mikey and his company. They want to ban what they cannot define. They want to vilify those least likely to engage in crime while at the same time let run amok those who present the highest danger to… Read more »

Watch um

I have been carrying a firearm from the time I was discharged from the army in 1964 and will continue until I die

HLB

Here we go again. No body knows whether people are carrying guns because they hide them. We don’t want to open carry because we know that will not receive high approval ratings, or because we will have our gun taken from us, or some other contrived reason.

Never do the obvious thing that would stop all this anti-gun nonsense. That obvious thing would be to wear your weapon openly and proudly, infringing on the no-guns zones as much as possible, and use it responsibly when needed.

HLB

Patriot Solutions

In Denver the cops would throw you a beating for that while in the exact same moment praise illegals for pulling down the American flag at the ICE Detention Center and raising their Mexican flag in it’s place but were taking their so-called qualified immunity away here since they think it’s to be used to cover their crimes while they trample the constitution. Qualified immunity DENIED!   https://www.coloradopolitics.com/courts/judge-allows-excessive-force-claim-to-go-forward-against-clear-creek-sheriffs-deputies/article_d36da85a-5145-11ec-91c2-8795f697a917.html And the cops think their qualified immunity also suspends the first amendment when it comes to video taping cops while they commit their crimes so DOJ just requested the 10th Circuit to… Read more »

Henry Bowman

“Gun ownership is common and one out of a dozen of us are carrying in public today.”
I’ve heard this statistic before, in another context. This movie stated at the end that the #1 purveyors of small arms worldwide were the 5 permanent members of the U.N. Security Council. I wonder, if we were to arm every law-abiding and responsible adult in the world (rather than governments), if Robert Heinlein’s adage would hold true; that is, an armed society is a polite society.

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DonP

“…Both have told us that guns are frighteningly dangerous and that we’d be safer if more honest citizens were disarmed…”

I always find it humorous when they try to convince people of that BS while they, at that moment, are being protected by THEIR armed security contingent (whether private or LEO).

Laddyboy

In the DemoKKKratic controlled State of Maryland, there are three basic “official requirements” to get a State “permit” to carry. 1.) You OWN a business — and thus you MIGHT carry money. 2.) You work at a business that transports money for “institution(s)” or “company(s)”. 3.) You have a current court case WITH DOCUMENTATION that you are in danger from a THUG or THUGS. UNOFFICIAL REQUIREMENT; 4.) You are a Policeman – off duty or retired and have been qualified. 5.) You KNOW a politician who will vouch for you. OTHERWISE: YOU as a Law Abiding American Citizen are DENIED… Read more »

JDC

I think any survey underestimates the numbers who carry. First of all, I know many folks who believe it is nobody’s business but their own if they carry. Second, I know several college professors who carry on campus, even though their state prohibits guns on campus. Finally, just as there are states which only criminals and celebrities are allowed to CC (IL, HI, NY, CA) the Constitutional carry states probably greatly improve the survey numbers. I live in a town less than 3 miles from the state border. Much of our shopping is done in the nearby state. As such,… Read more »

Patriot Solutions

I’m at BIG O getting a wheel alignment and about half of the people here are armed right now, visibly armed. Black and white people armed and nobody is getting killed and there’s no BLM, Antifa or robbers in sight.

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