NYPD Moves to Revoke Trump’s Gun Permit: The Broader Implications for Second Amendment Rights

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Disarming President Trump

In a significant move, the New York Police Department (NYPD) is set to revoke former President Donald Trump’s concealed carry permit following his recent conviction on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in a politically motivated hush-money case. Trump, who had three pistols registered under his permit, surrendered two of these firearms to the NYPD, while the third was legally transferred to Florida.

This action brings back to light the ongoing debate about the rights of nonviolent felons to keep and bear arms.

The Case Against Trump

Trump’s conviction has legal implications under both federal and state laws, which prohibit convicted felons from possessing firearms. With his felony status, Trump not only faces the loss of his concealed carry permit but also the legal prohibition from possessing any firearms. This development has sparked a broader discussion on the fairness and constitutionality of denying Second Amendment rights to nonviolent felons.

The Debate Over Felons and Gun Rights

The Trump case highlights a critical issue: Should nonviolent felons be permanently barred from exercising their Second Amendment rights and denied the most efficient tool for personal self-defense? This question is at the heart of recent legal debates and court decisions.

A notable case is that of Steven Duarte, a nonviolent offender whose conviction under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1) was recently vacated by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Duarte, who had multiple nonviolent felony convictions, argued that the federal law prohibiting felons from possessing firearms violated his Second Amendment rights.

The court agreed, noting that nonviolent felons should not automatically be disqualified from exercising their constitutional right to bear arms.

Historical Context and Current Laws

In more recent history, laws have excluded felons from possessing firearms, but this practice has evolved over time. The definition of what constitutes a felony has expanded, encompassing many nonviolent offenses such as white-collar crimes, certain drug offenses, environmental crimes, forgery, and cybercrimes. These crimes, while serious, do not involve violence or threats of violence, raising questions about the appropriateness of a lifetime ban on gun ownership for individuals convicted of such offenses.

The Argument for Restoring Rights

Advocates for restoring gun rights to nonviolent felons argue that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear arms to all “the people,” without explicitly excluding felons. They contend that once individuals have served their sentences and reintegrated into society, they should not be forever stripped of their fundamental rights, including the right to self-defense. The converse of that argument is if felons are not considered part of “the people” for gun rights, then they should not be obligated to pay taxes either.

The ruling in United States v. Duarte adds to a growing body of legal thought challenging the constitutionality of blanket bans on firearm possession for nonviolent felons. Splits in court decisions, such as Judge Holly A. Brady’s ruling that felons do NOT have gun rights, set up a push for the Supreme Court to reconsider the impact of lifetime bans and to distinguish between violent and nonviolent offenses when it comes to gun rights.

GOD Given Rights

The NYPD’s decision to revoke Donald Trump’s concealed carry permit after his nonviolent felony conviction brings to light the broader issue of Second Amendment rights for nonviolent felons. Recent legal decisions suggest that there is a compelling argument for allowing nonviolent offenders to retain or regain their right to bear arms. As this debate continues, it is crucial to balance public safety concerns with the constitutional rights of individuals, ensuring a fair and just system that respects the fundamental freedoms of all citizens, including those who have made mistakes but do not pose a continued risk to society.

“If you’re ‘rehabilitated’ enough to be released back into public circulation, you’re also rehabilitated enough to be able to exercise all rights.” ~ @The_Privateer.

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Ruger1

These Cock Sucker’s in NYC, took an 8yr Old Misdemeanor, and Turned it into 34 Felonies, That They Can’t Even Define!!! The Shady Shit that is Going On in Our Country, Is Some Next Level Marxist/Communist Bullshit!!! This Is the Stuff You’d Witness in Venezuela, Brazil or Even Cuba…. But No, It’s Being Done to a Political Party Rival, and No One is Putting a Stop to it!!! Our DOJ, FBI and Every Other Alphabet Agency is Corrupt, Our Military is Woke!!! Our Enemies Laugh at Us, Our Allies Don’t Support Us, and the Dementia Riddled Pants Shitting Cadaver is… Read more »

Wass

A convicted felon? Nobody outside the prosecution could tell you what the crimes were. As well, the very definition (not that it’s ever been clearly defined legally) of “felony” has been clouded in this eager prosecution of Trump. A violent threat to public safety? Don’t be ridiculous.

CBW

F NY. The Constitution is Trump’s permit to carry a gun. F the Communist left.

Bozz

Wouldn’t it be ironic. When Trump is re-elected, the president of the United States can’t own a firearm, but illegal immigrants can.

Autsin Miller III

There are legal implications here but certainly not safety ones. I think the Secret Service has the safety issues covered. This is just another inconvenience for Trump but maybe, if he is reelected, he will have more understanding of what the rest of us have to deal with.

Central PA Dan

New York lib’s can go fuck themselves……

PMinFl

The state of New York, as with several similar states has through legislation, seized control over firearm laws in their own jurisdiction notwithstanding constitutional authority. This is what smart lawyers with a purpose driven agenda have accomplished. While we stood on constitutional principle our opponents have obfuscated their message to deceive the public with slogans like “for the children” and “if it saves only one life”. The public bought it. (I’m not writing a book here, THINK ABOUT IT !!)

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Henry Bowman

Trump was falsely “convicted” in a communist SHAM court over an EXPIRED misdemeanor charge that magically transformed into 34 “felonies”. If they can strip a President of his 2A rights absent a legitimate conviction, they can cancel the 2nd Amendment for ALL Americans on their say-so ALONE.

This is why we have a 2nd Amendment, if you have the stones to defend the Constitution from these domestic enemies of liberty!

Capn Dad

Win or lose hopefully Trump will move everything to Florida after all this BS subsides. If he is smart he’ll never set foot in that putrid state again. My frau is from upstate NY and she won’t even go back there for a visit. And I advise all patriots to find a thing called “Committees of Correspondence”. Our forefathers had a pretty good idea back during their occupation.

Montana454Casull

” Shall not be infringed” FNY and all Democrats.