Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act Allows Military Police to Concealed Carry in 50 S

By Major Van Harl USAF Ret

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Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act H.R. 218 And Military Police
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Wisconsin –-(Ammoland.com)-  In 2004 then President George W. Bush signed the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA).

The act was introduced to Congress as H.R. 218 and if a policeman knows about this act he/she most likely will refer to it as H.R.218.

What H.R. 218 did was give police including military police officers the ability to carry a concealed firearm in any State or US possession, such as Puerto Rico.

This type of law enforcement concealed carry permit has nothing to do with the civilian concealed carry permits that States can issue to their residents.

The most important difference about an H.R. 218 concealed carry permit is–all 50 States have to honor the permit.

As of July 2013 all 50 States have some form of civilian concealed carry permit. However, unlike a drivers license issued in one State and honored in all of the other 49 States there is no one State that will honor all 49 other concealed carry permits or have their permit honored by all of the other 49 States.

The H.R. 218 is a special concealed carry permit for actively working cops and retired cops. There is a process to apply depending on each State’s protocol. You have to qualify each year on the handgun you plan to carry and when you have your H.R. 218 permit you can travel the 50 States and all US Territories with your legal handgun.

This includes: Washington D.C., New York City and the dreaded anti-gun city of Chicago.

The problem was when H.R. 218 first went into effect it failed to include Federal retired law enforcement such as FBI or ATF agents. So the bill was amended and they included military police both active duty and retired, but the wording was allegedly confusing to civilian law enforcement, so retired military police of any and all branches of the DoD and Coast Guard were denied the ability to have the H.R. 218 permit.

H.R.218 has been amended again this year and now there is specific wording that addresses military police both active duty and retired.

If you are retired military police, security forces, or master-at-arms you can qualify and carry a concealed handgun. Each State has (I believe-don’t quote me, (New Jersey may not)) set up an application procedure for former Federal law enforcement (this includes old military cops) members to acquire an H.R. 218 based concealed carry permit that has to be honored in every state.

I am a retired Air Force Security Forces policeman and I live in Wisconsin. As soon as the new amendment to H.R. 218 went into effect in 2013 the Wisconsin Department of Justice (Do J) modified their application process to include retired military cops under the former Federal law enforcement application process.

Last week after fulfilling a lengthy application process to include qualifying on the handgun I will be carrying, the Wisconsin DoJ issued me what I believe to be the first, former Federal law enforcement concealed carry permit assigned to an old Air Force retired cop.

If you are a retired military policeman from any branch of the DoD, you need a total of ten years service as a military cop. So even if you changed career fields and were not a cop your entire Air Force career that is OK, as long as you have at least the minimum ten years of military police time.

You have to be able to prove it on your DD 214. In actuality you do not have to be retired from military law enforcement. You have to only have ten years as a military cop. So if you have a DD 214 that can document you were a military policeman for ten years,(even if you separated before a twenty year retirement) that will work. If you are interested in having an H.R. 218 based law enforcement concealed carry permit, the first thing you need to do is contact the Department of Justice (or equivalent of) in your State of residence. Each State must have a process for former police officers to acquire a concealed carry permit.

There is precedence at least in the State of Wisconsin for an old Air Force policeman to have qualified and received an H.R. 218 permit, I am that precedence. One issue of the newly amended H.R. 218 is any active duty military policeman can with proof of current handgun qualification carry a concealed handgun out in the civilian world of all 50 States.

According to H.R. 218 any military cop from any branch of service (to include a reserve or Guard cop) can acquire their own privately owned handgun and carry it concealed off base. That will be a new experience for military commanders to deal with.

Even after you have your H.R. 218 permit tread lightly, there are a lot of people in power, especially on the east coast and in Chicago who might not completely understand that Federal law trumps anti-gun State statutes.

I contacted the Secretary of the Air Force’s office and was advised that the DoD is working the issue with intent to come up with DoD directed certification credentials for current and qualified former military cops to carry concealed under H.R. 218.

Times they are a changing in the world of military cops, old and new.

Major Van Harl UASF Ret / [email protected]

About Major Van Harl USAF Ret.:Major Van E. Harl USAF Ret., a career Police Officer in the U.S. Air Force was born in Burlington, Iowa, USA, in 1955. He was the Deputy Chief of police at two Air Force Bases and the Commander of Law Enforcement Operations at another. He is a graduate of the U.S. Army Infantry School.  A retired Colorado Ranger and currently is an Auxiliary Police Officer with the Cudahy PD in Milwaukee County, WI.  His efforts now are directed at church campus safely and security training.  He believes “evil hates organization.”  [email protected]


Update: 2/3/2017

Qualified individuals can now apply for LEOSA online at www.leosaarmy.com

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EB

Hello! Do you think my circumstances would allow me to qualify for a carry permit under the LEOSA Act? I am just short of six years ANG and Active duty Army because of service-connected illness incurred during my last deployment. The circumstances are as follows: I joined and remained in the Army National Guard and attended Military Police/OSUT training in 1998. In 2003, during a Federal mobilization and deployment stateside, I developed illness and was constantly in and out of medical appointments at the base hospital for the next five months. My orders were for a one-year deployment, however, I… Read more »

Sal

Here is an idea. Have DCS co firm our eligibility then send our packet over to CID and ha e then print out Federal type credentials like MPI. Maybe down the road tnt would be a reality.
Just my 1 cent
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Anthony Holtgreven

I was Air Force law enforcement injured 3 times in line of duty. i had 6 years in and would have stayed longer but for the injureries.Do i count, after sacfricing everything.

Anthony Holtgreven

I was injured in the line of duty 3x. i had 6 surgeries to fix me. i had 6 years in. i wouldve stayed longer but they wouldnt let me. DO I QUALIFY?

Jay

Anthony, did you get a disability rating?

Anthony Holtgreven

I yes I got a total of 120% but due to the Va slide rule I’m only 80%. Tha to really doesn’t seem right.

Anthony Holtgreven

Yes after all those surgery I was finally given 80%. Even though the math added up to 120%. As per usual the Va used a slide rule to reduce it to 80%, not right at all. They still want to operate on my spine in neck as I’m losing feeling in arm and hand progressively. Doctors want to operate on my spine in the lower back too. After all I’ve done I still don’t qualify for the safety act? I’ve been threatened numerous times cause I was a Military Law enforcement officer, the threats were brutal and I would have… Read more »

Anthony Holtgreven

I’ve answered 3 times then in true government fasion you erase my answer.BASTARDS!!!!!!

Jay

Anthony, they don’t erase your responses, they approve them first. I sometimes wait a day before seeing my responses. It’s my opinion (for whatever it’s worth) that anyone with a service connected disability meets the letter of the law regardless of the percentage. The law states specifically “service connected disability” and says nothing about percentage. It does say that the reason for leaving has to be as a result of your disability.(to qualify under the lack of having 10 years) However, the military or the VA never clarifies that one way or the other. So I’d imagine it doesn’t get… Read more »

Tony Holtgreven

I wish to apologize to you for flying off at you. You seem to be one man truly helping and i acted like an ass! im sorry, truly sorry.

Jay

Tony, No worries. I could tell you were just venting. We all need to do that every now and then. I didn’t feel it was directed at me or anyone else in here for that matter.

Anthony Holtgreven

Yes I received a disability percentage at first it was 20%and then it took my Senator to get involved after being injured so many times in the line of duty protecting others and apprehending suspects it just didn’t seem right for a 20% after blowing out both knees breaking my spine and my neck I was in a lot of pain I tried to go back into the military prior to 9/11 the recruiter there told me that wouldn’t happen because the doctor at Miami MEPS was 90 years old and wouldn’t even look at my medical files even though… Read more »

BobT

Jay, Defense Counseling Services is charging $ 160.00 for this ID Card, they have set up an elaborate system of verification which is Totally unnecessary, DOD put the rider in on HR 218 mandating this requirement, to which by the way I agree with. What I don’t agree with is who should issue the ID Card. This can be accomplished very easily at All Bases ID Card Sections, HR 218 only applies to Retirees with over 10 yrs or more of Documented Law Enforcement . That is Documented on the Original Copy of the Retirees DD For 214. So DOD… Read more »

Jay

Bob, I appreciate your professional style response. Thank you for that. What you wrote was very interesting. However, I’m not sure what you mean by elaborate system of verification. I put my DCS packet together and receive my card 45 days later. I don’t know if you know this or not, but when I ETS’ed from the Army Reserves, I received no DD 214. I only have DD214’s for active duty service. I don’t have 10 years of AD. I have a combination of 14 years active and reserve. Using the system provided by DCS, I was able to prove… Read more »

BobT

Jay, Now I understand your original posting better, you cobbled together the aggregate, something that got passed by DCS verification Standards of qualified for the minimum of 10 years of Law Enforcement, Good for you. Why you did not receive a DD Form 214 when you ETS”ed from the Reserves is presumably because you are still entitled to Benefit’s when you reach the approach Retirement age for Reserves, then you will get a DD Form 214, as a Reserve you are still subject to Recall. why DCS accepted the patchwork of documents that you provided, in and of itself is… Read more »

Jay

I’m not sure how to take your comment. I guess I should be glad you weren’t the one evaluating my packed. 🙂

Jay

Typo “packet”

Kaido Ojamaa

Jay: Your right on. With all respect Bob seems to forget the major factor of “Seperated” Personnel. Retired ID cards are not possible for Seperated MP,CID and DoD Police. Many of us have a Hodge podge of time as an MP in the components ;RA,AR,NG etc. All this critical aggrgate time factor has to be properly Authenticated for conplainace with the 10 year aggregate year threshold. The Army Reserves has been more difficult to authenticate especially for retirees as they are known to not provide on retirement documents your MOS as MP. From what I hear this will change. The… Read more »

Jay

Agreed. The requirements for a retired LEOSA ID are completely different than the requirement to be retired military. I’m a retired LEOSA but no where near meet the requirements to be retired military. Bob needs to understand that it’s not all cut and dry or necessarily all from one location. People should value ones efforts and labor. A while ago, I spent many years developing a website at militarysignatures.com. I got ousted from some forums because I charged a small fee to be a member. It cost me several thousand dollars and an untold amount of hours to develop the… Read more »

BobT

kadio, all that, and you have said nothing, HE 218/stipulates 10.yrs min, and Retired , so would it be a stretch to say you are part of the DEFENSE Counseling Service Cabal, sure sounds like it,if not you should be speaking out about how RETIREES and being Charged an absorbent charge for a document that DOD said in the amendment to HR 218 was required, I am not opposed to the requirement
, actually I agree with the stipulation, just not the source !

Bob T

Kaido Ojamaa,I disagree, when you said ” Retired ID cards are not possible for Separated MP,CID and DoD Police.” This could be accomplished with little cost TO THE RETIREE wherever Military ID Cards are Issued For Retirees. How you ask, the Retiree takes his Retirement DD for 214 to the ID Section that shows that he has the minimum Time10 Years as a Military Police Officer, the Person is then Issued a New ID Card that says Retired Police Officer PERIOD. this nonsense that DCS has going, is just a Money making vehicle for a DOD Contractor.Totally unnecessary

Robert Taber

In accordance with HR 218 amended in 2013, all eligible will be required to have a ID Card stating that you are a Retired Police Officer, which on face valuer has Merit. The glitch is that although this requirement was tacked onto a DOD bill, DOD has shirked it’s responsibility to issue said ID Card at NO EXPENSE ! so DOD entered into what might be considered a pay for play contract with a DOD Contractor DEFENSE COUNSELING SERVICES, who claim to be all Retire Military Police or Air Police. They are Gouging Retires seeking to acquire the mandate ID… Read more »

Jay

Personally, I don’t think that’s gouging. I say that because I have to pay $135 every two years to renew my tags with the State. (for what? a new sticker) Compare that to the fact that my LEOSA ID card is good for life, no renewal. They have to pay someone to examine the packets and process and create the ID’s. Plus they have to maintain that data forever. All of that has cost associated with it. I think the charge is justifiable, but that’s just me. How can anything be free? I’m curious to know where you got that… Read more »

Kaido Ojamaa

Jay:
Your spot on. Hit the nail right on. The application fee charged by DCS is proportional for their services.
The only fee complaint I have with DCS is the fee charged for changing address and status it should be lowered as $20+ could go to half of that. Otherwise do far DCS has been doing professional methodical job. Sure I would like to see credentials and updates free as most Civilian Police agencies do. Who would not?
So far DCS performance has been is good.

Harry Schaefer

Jay, I was medically retired from the ASAF after 9 years of service as a member of the Security Forces. I was injured in the line of duty and retired at 65%. Do I fall under the retired LEOSA? Thank you

Jay

Based on what you wrote, personally I’d apply for a RETIRED LEOSA, not a SEPARATED through DCS. I began my application by selecting the retired option, and provided a copy of my VA ID with “Service Connected” on it, and I got the “Retired” LEOSA. However, I do have 14 years total AD and Reserves. But I wanted the retired designation versus the separated. There are a lot of laws that are written for retired LEO’s and not necessarily separated. I’ve been able to do quite a lot with my retired LEO credentials. With a service connected disability, it doesn’t… Read more »

Harry Schaefer

Jay, thank you for speedy reply. How do I apply for retired LEO credentials?

Jay

Yea, no worries. If you were Air Force the link is here: https://www.leosaairforce.com/

Kaido Ojamaa

Robert Taber: You missed some very critical parts of the implementation of the LEOSA law. First you have forgotten Seperated Military Police,CID and Army DoD Civilian Police personnel. As Many LEOSA qualified personnel are seperated but not Retired. As Such those seperated would not be entitled to a Retired ID card. Secondly the law including the 2013 NDA upgrade states nothing of authentication with a DD FM 214. It would be nice for qualified,Active,Seperated and Retited LEOSA qualifees the credential free of charge as most Civilian Police Departs do maybe one day. Reguarding Defense Consulting Services-DCS. Yes DCS does charge… Read more »

Sal

With all due respect you can do what you want but I would not encourage anyone to help you in your fight against DOD.

Consider this for a moment, if you push hard enough DOD can cancel the ID program and not issue anything..nothing in the law says an agency has to issue credentials…

Be careful for what you wish for . If may screw us all.

I have no problem paying for a retired credential so I can conceal carry as a retired law enforcement officer..i live in New Jesey..i would pay even more if asked..

Thank you

Sal

Jay

I agree. Why rock the boat? So many people complaining about it not being free makes me laugh. Just be glad it came to light for us prior military at all.

jack Hart

What is the status of retired army counterintelligence special agents to carry conceal in all fifty states.

DT

What can I do if I got 9 and some change? Are there any waivers or exceptions?

Jay

Did you get any percentage of disability at all?

gremlin

Department of the Army now issuing retired LEOSA creds via same company as A.F.10 year minimum. As MP or DOD police. Need photo, complete application, 214 or SF 50. FBI self background check.cost is $160.00, good for life

devonta

what if youre under 21 can u still obtain an H.R.218 permit ?

Jon j 31 bravo

You’re right on ,I know this { New York is like that because of,The main body of LEOs have bigoted and narrow minded,: I myself have been 31B~15 +years and 31E 12 +years[Army national guard DC]:(while simultaneously Holding federal law-enforcement credentials, {While in route from Washington DC to New York City in route to Chicago via Amtrak} there was a delay in my connecting train , two NYPD, made contact with me asserting i fitted a BOLO, And requested a photo ID-as I was recovering my wallet from the top part of my pack, they asked me did I have… Read more »

HP

@MM1(SS) Clute

If you’re an LEO, be wary of taking your firearm to NYC. The NYPD is notorious for arresting out of town police on a whim, regardless of LEOSA. There’s actually case law on it (NYC/NYPD lost, the cop got the charges dismissed). But it’s worth remembering what the NYPD apparently thinks of other departments that they would knowingly disregard federal law. I’ve heard horror stories coming out of NJ about this type of thing as well.

Eddie

The Air Force has for quite a while, a very simple process to obtain a USAF LEOSA credential valid in all 50 states. Active, former (with 10 years) and Retired Security Police/Forces and Department of the Air Force Police qualify for it. Sorry to burst your bubble on being the first, but for over a year now retired SF have obtained their LEOSA credential.
Link to apply: https://www.leosaonline.com/

F Riehl, Editor in Chief

@Ed this article was written in July 24, 2013.

Eric

Alaska has no requirement for concealed carry , other than law abiding citizen , non prohibited person. That includes everyone .

JEFF Clute

Retired local, state, and Federal/Military LEOs are only ones who need a yearly qualification card to carry with their Retired Law Enforcement Credentials and are covered to carry Nationwide. All Active Local, state, and Federal/military LEOs only need to carry Active duty credentials issued by their agency to carry Nationwide under HR-218

Betty Jones

Live in Indiana, retired 30 years Army, Military Police, how do I start the process in my state. Thank you

Franco

I’m happy that this is expanded even though it doesn’t apply to me. It’s a shame that it is so hard to get a permit for the average joe. If we can pass the background ck and qualify why not? Of course I know that answer. One thing you should be careful of though is that the state in question might honor your permit it may not honor your gun or ammo. NJ doesn’t allow hollow point ammo and many states have magazine size limits. This may not sound like a big deal but NJ charges $1000 per round for… Read more »

Winston Smith

Why aren’t we talking about the UPS planes loaded with potential Jihadis landing at smaller regional A.P.s and offloading them to busses? Or how about the known violations of US Law that have occurred again and again and again , (ad nauseum ) I suspect the oaths that many of you ,and I took may still mean something to us. Wish that was the same with those pulling the strings ,and loading up on benefits and exemptions from the “laws” they have passed. This while US Military Retirees and survivors take cuts to fund their own demise. Don’t give a… Read more »

Winston Smith

Won’t mean a damn thing when the “great American Turkey Shoot” to restore the Republic begins. And if you think it will? Just show them your special hall pass from the Feebies! 🙂 I’m sure that will help. No treason will not be sustained by this nation much longer. I and tens of millions of other citizens no longer give a rats ass what the comissars in DC will allow or disallow. The irony of the many posts here discussing “the law” . When our own government is by its own definition ,illegitimate by its own refusal to abide by… Read more »

Bob Sadtler

As a policy, I vehemently object to ” perks for government strongmen,” but I actually feel bad for you guys on this. Having to qualify ANNUALLY on EVERY GUN you carry? You are better off getting a civilian permit. Who wants to go to all 50 states anyway? I will PAY TO AVOID shitholes like Maryland or New Jersey! I cannot speak for prison guards in the other 49 states, but applying this to VIRGINIA prison guards would be a FUCKING DISASTER! Many of them are genuine professionals, but FAR too high a percentage are FLAT-OUT UNFIT for such a… Read more »

Vanns40

Currently retired Pentagon Police (not military) were not able to qualify under HR218. Will that now change?

Geoff

Well, that’s nice, but……
Again, some are more equal than the rest of us.

durabo

We are eternally grateful to the Law Enforcement Alliance of America (www.leaa.org) for having fought for the rights of the Blue Team.

https://leaa.org/

Michael

Question: Does anyone posting here actually believe your opinions, accusations or comments actually mean crap to 90% of the rest of us? Information is important, opinions are like buttholes; everyone has one and they all stink.

Doug D

I was an AF SP for 4 active years. Separarated worked as a patrolman pastime for awhile before joining the PA DOC. I was forced to retire after 7.5 years due to a work related injury. I worked through 2 riots and a hostage situation while with DOC. From what I read my time can be combined as long as I have at least 10 years and retire from an agency. Now that said i should qualify , but I have also read that the commonwealth does not recognize the DOC officers. Any Pa DOC out there that have obtained… Read more »

ChicagoGuy

Look at the bullsh&t title of the federal law: Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act. That tells you the whole thing is phoney. Cops constantly cry about how dangerous their job is, but it doesn’t even make the top ten list from the Labor Dept. for death and injury. The fishermen on the Most Dangerous Catch, loggers and farmers all have more dangerous jobs, but you don’t hear them whining about it and demanding free coffee. Most cops are so afraid of other people in general that they get paranoid if they can’t carry their gun into the bathtub. Meanwhile here… Read more »

Jerry Brown

My question is this: As of 27 Dec 2015 my understanding is that the USAF has adopted a process to credential it’s current and retired officers so they can obtain a CCW. Now I am a retired military police officer from the US Army and to date I am totally unaware of a credentialing process so as a retired MP can obtain his LEGALLY and FEDERALLY APPROVED RIGHT to a CCW. I spoke with the MP school CSM in 2014 and he stated that the process was in the works and that the AF would be the model for the… Read more »

Jay

Jerry, yes. You can apply here: https://leosaarmy.com/

Matthew waters

Does this over rule the age requirement of 21 or no because I’m 20 and would like to apply for this???

James monko

In regards to some people that want to carry a CCW they think they’re going to be like John Wayne and save everybody this is a fairytale land real life situations changes a person that has not been fired at can not say there an expert when it comes to the range sure you made it perfect shootings call to arrange but that target is not shooting back at you and you’re not under the pressure of returning fire 99% of people that are in that situation bolt the only true person license to carry a firearm you can please… Read more »

SGT Jesse C. Baggett,Sr ( Retired Army)

I would like to know if I could get a HR 218. I spend 6yrs active and 20yr in the Army Reserve. I retived on Jule 25,2005. I was an expert with the M16 rife. I live in Florida. I lived here sense Aug 10, 1984. Please let me now. Thanks Jesse

SGT Jesse C. Baggett,Sr ( Retired Army)

I spent 6yrs active army and 20yrs reserve army. I would like to know if I can get a HR 218. I am not police office. I was an expert with a M16 rifle. Can I get a HR218

Vince Scola

Would certainly appreciate hearing from anyone who has recently applied for a concealed permit under the guidelines of H>R. 218. Knowing where to apply and how to get the proper paper work started I assume would probably be the first steps. Any information and /or advice would be greatly appreciated. I”am a resident of Florida if that is helpful. Thanks for taking the time. All the best and keep safe. Vince

Hatrick

As an 11 year AF SP Vet. A retired LEO. RETIRED. I want be RETIRED! I would also like to conceal carry. I’ve seen what the consealed carry class teaches is in NM. The training that was given to me over 11 years covers every aspect of the course offered hear in my state. Plus a lot more. I don’t know about you. I do not want to evet have to draw my gun. It beats a stick or rock any day. I’m not setting out to be wana be Cop. I am a Retired LEO. Not out to apprehend/arrest/detain… Read more »

David White

I am a retired US Army CID Special agent. When I called CID HQ, they wouldn’t issue any type os retired ID card. My local police department, Spokane, WA, issued me my HR 218 card as they stated I qualified.

Rob Huckins

Concerning LEOSA Military Police….I spent 8 years as a Military Police Officer and 3 years as a Special Agent in Counterintelligence with the Army….with all rights of conceal carry and enforcement of laws pertaining to National Security…would these 3 years be able to combine with my 8 years as an MP.

Sal Waters

I’m a NJ resident and I have the Army leosa credential. I called Nj state police and they told me to apply for RPO, it will be approved. IF ACTIVE OR FULL TIME LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SEPERATED OR RETIRED, OR OTHERWISE A QUALIFIED RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.This means even a reservist or national guard can apply and be approved as long as your credentials say QUALIFIED SEPERATD OR RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. I will apply shortly!

Sal Waters

for Rob Huckins. my understanding is you have to apply for Leosa credential thru your last agency…Yes time counts.

wb

thanks to border patrol and dhs people in florida no longer have any protections against unlawful search and seizure of your person, car, or home. with the 100 mile border now allowing checkpoints anywhere in the ares, the entire stae of florida now falls under this statute. forget the laws people, the laws are whatever that inbreed retard pulling you over says it is. being a cop is a natural result of brother and sister sleeping together, the resulting baby grows up to become a cop.

donald rutledge, SGT

Shall NOT be infringed ring a bell? To those of us whose oath doesn’t expire the 2nd Amendment is your permit NOT the yahoos who make these unconstitutional laws, bills, acts up, apparently our duly elected officials cant understand that, if someone doesn’t understand the importance of the oath need another job military, law enforcement and especially the politicians.

Eduardo Alvelo

Godoy bless all
My ñame is Eduardo, i an a former city Police Officer for 3 years at SJ PR also a former department of The army Police Officer for 9 years, and Military police and Military Police instructor for moré than 15 years at present i work for The Dept of defense as Personnel and administration in PR , at Military i and 1SG at civil affairs unit, my question is if i qualify to have this benefits. Thanks waiting for reply.

Anthony

Hello.. I am a retired USMC Military Police officer with 20 years as an MP. Has anyone heard any word in reference to the USMC starting the process to request the HR 218 permit?

freewill

the second amendment is the law of the land. we dont need H.R 218 giving one group of special people a privilege. its already every bodys god given right to self defense, no matter where they travel.

Ron

Why the cutoff? I was Army Military Police and MPI for 4 years. It would be better to give it to all us too.

William Perry

See my rebuttal to Maj Harl. He was not totally correct in many of his comments and could cause much confusion.
The first Air Force LEOSA credential was issued to Gen Jamison, Air Force Chief of Security Forces.
Link to my rebuttal here; (copy and paste if necessary)
https://www.ammoland.com/2013/12/rebuttal-leo-safety-act-allows-military-police-to-concealed-carry-in-50-states/

Al Crandall

Stop verbally abusing each other, The gun grabbers love this stuff, if you were security, police, military and were trained and carried a weapon, are not mentally incompetent, don’t abuse alcohol or drugs, haven’t been convicted of a felony, then you should be able to carry concealed to protect yourself and your family.

Jason B

Question. Could someone please tell me whether the same laws are used for those carrying under this law as an active police officer regards to determining the legality of a shooting? Cause if so…holy shit that’s an issue. my 82 year old grandfather still qualify s on the range but I’d be really. ..really really….really hesitant to give him the kind of impunity that law grants police. Actually I’m not really comfortable with it applying to active police. But that’s another issue.

Seaver, Landon

I am having trouble understanding LEOSA exactly at the age of 19 as an active duty security forces member in the Air Force am I qualified to go purchase and concealed carry if I get the certificate

Scott

Is there a link to the application so those of us that are MP’s or SF or MA’s can at least attempt to start this process?

Anthony

Has anyone heard about the process in reference to the US Marine Corps?

PaulycarriesNEways

WOW. You idiots all need to ease off the DBOL and Winstral. So you were a cop. That just means you’ve committed more felonies than the rest of us. This is classic tiny dock syndrome. Not once did I read the phrase “civil rights”. You bozos don’t think the populace actually has any. YOUR EGO IS NOT YOUR AMIGO, Mensa. I carry now, always have and won’t stop. I earned that right by being born here. I’m a service-connected combat Veteran. Try and step to me with that “war. Veteran’s aren’t fit to carry” bullshit. I will debate any of… Read more »

Subject not Citizen

To “A Police Officer”: It is clearly obvious that you have never served a single day in a military uniform and have zero knowledge of the training and education that military police in any branch earn. The USAF Security Police Basic Course is accredited by FLETC for example. We enforce AR’s and AFI’s, but we also enforce state and federal laws every day. From assault to rape to murder, we are no different than civilian cops. A rookie MP or veteran patrol supervisor may refer the aforementioned felonies to MPI or CID, but civilians also refer to there division detectives.… Read more »