Alert: California DOJ Issues Magazine Ban Regulations

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Alert: California DOJ Issues Magazine Ban Regulations
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Calguns Foundation

USA -(Ammoland.com)- Earlier today, the California Department of Justice released proposed “emergency” regulations on the new total possessory ban on “large-capacity” magazines under SB 1446 (2016) and Proposition 63, passed in November.

All gun owners who possess “large-capacity” magazines in California — and all gun owners who possess “10/30” or similarly reduced-capacity magazines in California — need to read the text of the proposed regulations here.

 

ALERT: EMERGENCY “LARGE-CAPACITY” MAGAZINE REGULATIONS RELEASED BY DOJ

 

READ THE REGULATIONS

We expect that DOJ will release their new “assault weapon” regulations very soon.

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Alan

Bob G: Re yours of 22 December, time stamped 8:32 PM, it’s Assault Weapon that is the meaningless, double-talking politico’s terminology. Assault Rifle is a legitimate technical term that refers to a Selective Fire weapon, usually of rifle configuration, chambered for Intermediate cartridge. By the way, Selective fire capable firearms have been, via federal law, closely regulated since 1934, see The National Firearms Act of 1934. Additionally, some states deny the possession of Selective Fire Arms, aka Maching Guns to the private citizen, I believe California is one such, some do not, Pennsylvania where I currently reside, being one of… Read more »

Macofjack

Bob G – Your comment about not being able to own a gun with a removable mag doesn’t mean you can’t own a gun in that cal. is the dumbest thing you have said. That’s like saying you can one a car but not a Ford. Wise up!

Bob G

@mocofjack Great addition to the thread. Love those well-reasoned responses. What part did you not understand, and took to be dumb? The fact that you cannot own an AR-15 with a removeable mag, or the fact that I actually said it? The law passed, effective Jan 1, prohibits rifles with magazines that can be removed without disassembly. If you cannot understand that, I can try to write it slower, and then give you time to catch up. Here goes: the law passed prohibits rifles with magazines that can be removed without disassempins.They must be fixed magazines. This means that, starting… Read more »

Macofjack

No, I took the part where you decided that if you can’t get one gun in a cal you want it’s OK because you can get another one. Maybe you should try reading the replys and engage your brain for once!

Hope you have a Merry Christmas!

Bob G

Your inability to clearly communicate is your problem. Ecplain yourself better or stay away. Engage my brain for once? I’ve been doing nothing but that on this thread. You manage to read one line and use that as the tipping point to justify a denouncement of all my other activities. That pretty much is the pattern of liberals and BLM, making you no better. You have brought nothing to this thread except a couple of stupid and unclear comments. I would challange you to engage in the dialogue that the rest of us try to but I fear it would… Read more »

Macofjack

Bob G – Too bad your brain never engages, but Merry Christmas anyway!

John Dunlap

You’ve completely missed the man’s point, so let’s try this from a different direction. Suppose you enjoy competing in thousand yard matches. You decide to drop a few grand on a single shot .338 Lapua, complete with a custom adjustable stock and the best optics, only to be told after you’ve had the gun for a few years that it is now an evil “sniper weapon”, and you must either register it with the state (subject to all sorts of restrictions, reporting requirements, and future confiscation) or remove the sights. No scope, no iron. Sights make it a “sniper weapon.”… Read more »

Papa 313

I am confused, Hollywood makes movie after movie with car chases, people shooting while running down the interstates and sidewalks, crashing semis,cars and stores. Shooting 30 rounds at a time (out of a 6 shot revolver for you who know better). Gangs fighting in the streets and burning whatever. Making Millions of $$$$$$$$ and this is okay. My question is : ” When they resume making more of these movies is the California Government going to ban the magazines??? I can’t wait for California to become its’ own country, so President Trump can put a tariff on the product of… Read more »

Alan

Papa313:

I would not recommmend holding your breath, waiting for California to become a country of it’s own, having departed the U.S.A., though you are free to try.

Bob G

CA will never become its own country, but in that event, what makes you think Trump will tariff the hell out of CA avocados when he won’t tariff Mexican avocados? He can call for all the tariffs he wants, but sitting in the WH doesn’t make him King, which means he’ll have to play it smart to legislate trade. It isn’t all about tariffs, but about trade reciprocity. We don’t buy El Carrito sedans manufactured by Mexican-owned automaker Juarez, we buy Lincolns made in Mexico owned by U.S.-owned Ford. That’s a terrible thing to happen to the U.S. economy yet… Read more »

John Dunlap

Thom Paine and Vanns40 are on the right track. Sacramento and the other large urban centers are the problem here, that and vote fraud; I know, I was born here, lived here all my life and have been fighting the takeover for decades. Bob G., here’s what civil disobedience looks like. Think Ghandi. We don’t go around shooting anyone, or setting fires, or anything remotely like that. We just refuse to obey. If you have those bad ol’ magazines (and you weren’t dumb enough to buy them online or with a credit card), put them away. If Moonbeam had a… Read more »

Wild Bill

G, Excremento. Excremento, CA. Thank you for keeping up the good fight. Have a very Merry Christmas rifle and Happy New Ammo.

John Dunlap

And a Merry Christmas to you as well.

Alan

The dummies of California, in plain English, brought this fiasco on themselves, via the clowns they repeatedly vote into public office. The rest of the country needs to wake up and avlid doing the same thing. By the way, when was the last time you contacted your elected representatives regarding ANYTHING of concern to you?? Can’t remember? What does that say about you?? Realistically, nothing good.

Bob G

I contacted my congressman’s office more than once regarding gun issues. I also left very professional e-contacts with the Governor’s office AND sent a very well-written paper letter citing facts and avoiding the extreme that too many of our brethren resort to. I didn’t just spout the 2nd without backing it up, but stuck with realities and economics; politicians by now have learned to skirt arguments pointing to the 2nd because they know we pee ourselves when required to offer cogent arguments beyond the typical 2nd chant. This says well of my own efforts, I believe. I’m curious what YOU… Read more »

Alan

Re your questions:

1. For whatever it might be worth,I to am in regular contact with my elected reps.,both state and federal on matters of concern to me.
2. I understand, I believe, your comments,I do question your use of the term “ignorant”, and suggest that name calling is no way to present a different opinion. Otherwise,as was mentioned in the film Zulu,by one of the British officers,”we can’t be strong everywhere”. People make choices, then live with them, sometimes die with or from them..

Bob G

I meant no disrespect, and if I was too snarky to you then I apologize, but I stand by what I had said: too many peeps make aspersions toward all Californians due to the politican process we suffer. A region picks someone for a local office for local benefits and that person climbs the ladder to higher public office based on his successes. At some point the voter is offered one of three or four choices and we either pick our party affiliation or we pick the name we recognize, but rarely do we make that choice based on knowledge… Read more »

Bob G

I get a little fed up with those of you spouting off about CA being an extremist state and that we have no values; you just jump on the same bandwagon that BLM owns when they claim that all cops are racist and Trump won because of racist whites. You haven’t the slightest idea of the realities here. During the period in which petitions were circulated for ballot measures I argued with petitioners over the claims they were making (forbidding internet ammo sales is proven to reduce schoolyard mass shootings) and watched meltdowns, but they weren’t selling info, they were… Read more »

Wild Bill

Bob G, Texas is calling!

Bob G

Hey, Bill, I appreciate the offer. I’m definately considering Texas once my daughter graduates. FWIW, this same subject has come up numerous times with the same hyperbole and my caustic remarks. I make clear my intentions of moving to Texas or Nevada and the “Stand and Fight” segment pokes its head up from the bed of their pickup trucks and calls me names for leaving the fight to others. Just like here, I ask what fighting against legislation looks like and no one can say. Others spout about CA violating the 2nd and that we’re a rogue state but those… Read more »

Lance Hardwood

I live in NorCal. Completely agree this state should split. SoCal & San Francisco politics make living in this state dangerous. This state should be split from the N edge of SF peninsula, down to the bottom of the bay and across the state to the town of Oasis on the Nevada border. These dumbass militant liberals have no common sense. Their train of thought is that if they step into a crosswalk, their not going to get hit by a car. Just because pedestrians have the right of way, doesn’t mean someone isn’t going to see them and run… Read more »

Alan

San Francisco is in Northern California, as the phrasing goes, isn’t it? Look at what is and has been ongoing in that immediate area, S.F. and Oakland too, re the rights of law abiding gun owners.

Alan

Bob G: A long time ago, late 1960’s, I lived In California for a couple of years. I have, by the way, lived and worked in 20 some odd states and a couple of other countries too. That said, once upon a time, I saw the following admonition offered. “Gun owners are their own worst enemies”. I have not seen much to contradict that dim outlook and I have been “into guns” for more years than I care to remember. I have seen and heard a lot of vociferous comment made at gun clubs, though precious little action taken, for… Read more »

Captain Witold Pilecki

@Bob G: “As for those of you (I won’t call you loud-mouths or gasbags because that wouldn’t be nice) advocating civil disobedience, just exactly what does that look like?” It’s called The Armed Civil Disobedience and it looks like CT & NY. It looks like CO, WA, & OR and it is REAL. It is simple non-compliance, although we had an advantage over you folks in CA. Your gun control came incrementally over the past couple of decades, so you’re all kind of behind the “8-Ball” Here in CT and NY, they slammed us with it all at once in… Read more »

Bob G

I don’t disagree with most of what you said (but I won’t kill some poor deputy) and I have fully endorsed non-compliance by simply not telling anyone about the 30-round mags or the AR hidden in the garage. My sister lives in Nevada so he’ll bring me all the ammo I can ever want (attention Jackboots: it’s not i.legal to accept gifted ammo) so I’m okay there, but it’s still part of that insidious piecemeal effort at gun restriction, and I voice objections when I can whether it effects me or not (I decided I would rather have a lever… Read more »

Captain Witold Pilecki

The only “target” I advocate sending blazing hot ammo at high velocity to are those that break their “Oath” and will blindly “just follow orders”. Smart LEO’s and Guardsmen should certainly understand an illegal order, and if they don’t they’re in the wrong business. Certainly the tyrants themselves will not call upon you, they will send those “whose job it is.” But it is just that, a job, and no job is worth a man’s life to simply do an others bidding. That defense did not work in Nuremberg, and it won’t work in this case either. As I stated,… Read more »

MB

When all the intelligent, civil rights minded wage earners and entrepreneurs exit California in the near future, all that will remain is beautiful weather and cities occupied by criminal illegal aliens, fruitcakes, drug dealers, street gangs and liberal welfare leaches. The exodus has already begun… hope they enjoy their utopia before it all collapses

DCALDWELL

Born (1942), raised and worked mostly in California until 1987. The Progressive/Liberal hand writing on the wall convinced me to move to Arizona – best move ever.

MB

I just moved to Texas from Rhode Island, another tax and spend ( mostly on illegals ) state. R.I. treats gun owners like common criminals. Caught with 1 round of ammo inside car and not locked up… Prison for you… don’t miss that nonsense one bit. Arizona was good choice, was on our list but landed in the Lone Star State, and very happy.

Old Marine

California is a Criminal State by rejecting the Constitution of the United States. The second amendment states “NO INFRINGEMENT” making California legislators voting for this into criminals and everyone of them should be in jail for such arrogant actions. They have broken a law of the rights against humankind and the citizenry of California instead of going after the real criminals. This shows just how corrupt and ignorant these people are. Instead of helping and supporting the people in their districts, they impose their own will upon the very people who voted them in. How can such twisted politicians remain… Read more »

Vom Brunhaus

New Jersey just as bad or worse , at least twice a year passing more gun Laws

Alan

That being the case, how does their crap endure scrutiny by The U.S. Supreme Court, or might it be that The Court is bound and determined to duck the issue?

Bob G

Alan: you might be partially right; SCOTUS generally stays away from states’ rights when it comes to guns as long as the state has not clearly violated the 2nd. Gun owners like you and I are sensitive to how the 2nd translates, but some lower state courts and circuit courts are more favorable to an interpretation conducted by the state; i.e., banning ARs is not a violation of the 2nd as the second does not guarantee your right to something the state can label an assault weapon if the state acknowledges that bolt action or lever action or limited capacity… Read more »

Alan

Bob G: Re yours above, people need to understand and consider the following, you too. Assault Rifle is a specific, technical term, which defines a man portable, personal weapon. Assault Rifle is defined as follows: Selective Fire weapon, usually of rifle configuration, chambered for an intermediate cartridge. Please note the defining characteristics, selective fire capability, and the fact that it fires a less powerful cartridge than the full power service rifle cartridge. Non functional, and or cosmetic characteristics don’t entire into consideration. On the other hand, re the Assault Weapon, exactly or even approximately what is it that is referenced?… Read more »

Alan

Bob G I replied to yours, strange to note, “the elves seem to have eaten my response”, I wonder why. A reconstruction would read as follows, this is shorter. Assault Rifle is a specific technical- military term that defines a particular personal arm. A Selective Fire Weapon Chambered For Intermediate Cartridge. No frills, just the facts. As to Assault Weapons, much talked of in some political circles, exactly what is referenced. Damned If I know or can tell, a situation that millions would share, the thing given a little thought. Any court that didn’t give the heave ho to legislation… Read more »

Alan

Bob G:

Put up a couple of responses, both disappeared. I wonder why.

Alan

Bob G

Any court that accepts the hogwash that passes for legislation that goes on about “assault weapons” an undefined and meaningless term is not worth the electricity it takes to light the courtrooms it site in.

Bob G

Alan: See, you recognize that the term Assault Rifle is fairly a political creation. Maybe the politicians would be better served to switch to the more accurate term Combat Rifle as the origins of these are better understood to be designed for combat. The courts – I think – already recognize this so they really only look at the rifle checklists of particulars and disregard terminology. Here in CA the legislature addresses “evil features” as applicable to the weapons we simply termed assault rifles and they enact laws to control those features, not deny you the guns. They did it… Read more »

Craig

The state of California is so far in debt that they have created illegal laws that violate our second amendment rights so they can charge registration fees for registering sporting rifles and ammunition! There is so much corruption in Sacramento! This is why we must drain the swamp of democrats, starting with Brown and Newsom! We will not comply with laws that are illegal or violate the constitution! We will not comply with illegal laws that are passed by officials that took the oath to protect and defend the constitution!

Thom Paine

I refuse to support California businesses or commerce in any way . Not one dime of my money will go to support governance in the “occupied territories” .

Bob G

Wonderful. I’m sure you inspect your food labels to ensure you never eat anything grown or canned in CA. Mighty strong, you are. Hopefully you won’t buy guns from manufacturers that sell guns to Californians, just because, you know, that message needs to be sent. I’m sure you’re just as committed in supporting freedom by refusing to purchase anything made in China, either. You wouldn’t want to be a hypocrite, right?

Right?

Rock

What would you expect from the HOLLYROID/liberal/Dem state…. Nice state, but I wouldn’t want to visit or live there.

Matt.

“Two words for Cal. Gun Owners: Civil Disobedience”

It’s a nice thought but I don’t think CA. has the intestinal fortitude to do that because they would not have fallen off the deep end like this to begin with.

Vanns40

Two words for Cal. Gun Owners: Civil Disobedience.

DaveW

If the AR owners in NY, CN, and MA can refuse to register their rifles and refuse to rid themselves of “high capacity” magazines, I have no doubt that there will be a great many doing so here in CA. Yes, the socialists traitors are in control, but not everywhere in the state. The vast majority of the state is rural, where even Dems feel the need to have guns. In addition, with the exception of CDOJ, law enforcement throughout the state has voiced their rejection of such restrictions, especially among the county sheriffs and game wardens. Even in the… Read more »

John Dunlap

Actually, it did happen here. After the Stockton shooting, and the passage of the first “assault weapons” ban (to those who’d been paying attention, it appeared that the bill had been written before the shooting – one wonders how many of these lone nut incidents were really something more organized, and sinister), the guns flew off the shelves, and most of them have never been registered. Just buying and hiding wasn’t enough. The hoplophobes just wait for attrition to take its toll. We need concentrated push back, and until recently, the will wasn’t there. Thankfully, that appears to be changing.

Macofjack

God am I glad I don’t live in CA. What a liberal progressive hell hole!

Wild Bill

@Mac, Yes, it is so, and the liberal/ progressive/socialists have polluted Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and New Mexico, too. They are exporting their ideas far beyond their borders. @Vann, Civil Disobedience is probably not a good tool in this situation. The state of California already has CalDOJ units that go to people’s homes to seize whole collections of firearms on application for TRO or any kind of sanity hearing, or criminal charges, even before any resolution. CalDOJ is looking for any excuse, no matter how flimsy, to send a warrant crew out to any gun owner’s house. I think that the… Read more »

Macofjack

Wild Bill – Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Tionico

The “interstate commerce clause” is largely misunderstood and VERY much abused. Not a good basis for leaning on California’s stuipd amtigun laws. Better place is that Second Article of Ammendment, wherein it is stated that the right OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear SHALL NOT BE infringed. If these draconian laws are not “infringements” than there are no infrignements anywhere, every. DoJ need to confrong California heavily wiht court orders.. its already been confirmed in Heller and McDonald that the folks can keep arms, and ammunition, for their own private use in their homes and outside of them.

Wild Bill

@Tion, We should be pushing the Trump administration and the Congress to use both preemption through the interstate commerce clause and the Second Amendment through Heller, and McDonald! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Firearm!