Opinion

Ft Collins, CO –-(Ammoland.com)- 380 Auto
What is called the “380 Auto” over here, is called “9mm Kurz,” “9mm Corto,” or “9×17” in Europe. “Kurz” and “Corto” both translate to “short”
. 380 Auto Ammunition
The cartridge has been around for over one-hundred years, nearly as long as the currently more-popular 9mm Parabellum (AKA: “9×19,” “9mm Luger”).
The 380Auto’s enduring popularity is due partially to the fact that it is a low-pressure round, even by pistol standards. That being the case, pistols chambered for it have largely employed (until recently) straight “blow-back” designs and are thus much less expensive to manufacture than are pistols that incorporate a locking system.
And, because there are so many blow-back pistols chambered for this round, commercial ammunition manufacturers load the 380Auto strictly within SAAMI (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute) specifications. Thus, the 380Auto can be loaded only so “hot!” For that reason you’ll probably never see a 380Auto “+p”
Some among my colleagues consider any pistol in 380Auto caliber to be inadequate for serious purposes, and maybe they’re right.
And yet, Glock’s G42 (Glock’s single-column 380Auto pistol) has been extremely popular among consumers (many of whom are admittedly naive) since it was introduced several years ago. So popular is the G42 in fact, that S&W recently brought-out their version, the S&W Shield EZ handgun.

Kahr’s version, the P380 (which has been around the longest) is smaller than either the Glock or the S&W
All are designed for discreet concealed-carry and personal protection.
Hardball ammunition is, of course, available for practice, but “serious” ammunition for the 380Auto is generally a hollow-point between 80 and 90grs. Velocities range from 950 to 1050f/s. Reputable manufacturers all make their own versions.
Penetration generally falls short of the 12″-18″ FBI Standard.
The real question is this: Can we instructors, in good conscience, recommend for serious purposes, any 380Auto gun/ammunition combination?
As noted above, there is no universal agreement on this!
Some will insist the 9×19, even with modern +p ammunition, is still only marginally adequate, even grossly inadequate, and that only 40S&W, 357SIG, and 45ACP should ever be considered.
What I tell students is this; Any pistol/ammunition combination can be correctly called “grossly inadequate!”
Pistols, in general, have scant “redeeming social value,” save the fact that they are small, and we can carry them around discreetly concealed.
When using a pistol, any pistol, in a desperate effort to save your life, multiple, precisely-aimed impacts will likely be necessary in order to precipitate any observable behavioral change on the part of the person(s) you’re shooting.
Even then, long seconds may agonizingly tick-by, with no sign of discomfort on the part of your attacker!
Accordingly, we must be trained and prepared to hit the violent felon, no matter what kind of pistol we’re using;
- (1) in vital areas,
- (2) multiple times,
- (3) rapidly.
Some calibers/pistols may represent a better choice than others, but any pistol, even a lowly 380auto, will surely be a significant improvement over being unarmed and unprepared!

For some of my students, particularly the small-statured, with small hands, limited upper-body strength, and limited tolerance for recoil and noise, a 380Auto pistol will be better than nothing, and surely better than anything less, such as 22 rimfire.
I encourage students to purchase what they can comfortably carry concealed, can comfortably and accurately shoot in training (several hundred rounds at a sitting), and that they can comfortably fit into their lives.
Of course, the bigger and more powerful, the better. No doubt!
Is there room for the humble 380Auto in here? You tell me!
/John
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The Ruger LCP is great self defense as I am a felon and must carry illegally. Also affordable as heck
Ha Ha Ha say all you want about a .380 round, but I have yet to see anyone stand in front of one and tell me the difference between the .380 and any other round. Stories are like B.S. You can tell them all you want. But I know for a fact that not one of you would want to be shot with a .380 ACP. Case closed. End of story. That is why I hate going on these stories and seeing these B.S. Comment’s and Face Book Gun Groups alike.. The next Guy always has the bigger Ball’s..LOL.. Tell… Read more »
I was shot in the thigh from 5 feet by a 32 cal. and I sat down. Get shot even by a 22 lrhp and see how you feel .
I find my P238 to be concealable all year long. The rub has always been the performance of available ammo. Almost all rounds are either short on penetration and/or expansion. The Lehigh Extreme Penetrator alleviates both concerns. Those who call this round a “gimmick” haven’t researched it adequately. (Check out Ammo Quest’s evaluation) In terms of penetration (within the 12′ to 18″ FBI standard) and especially the severity of the wound cavity, this round makes the .380 a viable concealed carry option. Also, the Greg Ellifritz research mentioned above was insightful. The .380 rivaled or beat the 9mm in terms… Read more »
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#380ACP
please examine the evidence of these tests.
also recall what some say in training classes
“Any gun will DO, IF You Will DO.” ! ! !
and L.E.O.s from around the country will tell you and agree, “from .22LR to .45acp, Dead is Dead.”
kilodelta7
I just finished selling my .380 back to my friend’s gun shop yesterday. I had an incident with a Pit Bull that broke through my privacy fence and was actually in my back porch trying to kill one of my dogs. I heard the commotion and thought my dogs had just went too far in one of their little sibling spats but when I went out there a big Pit Bull had one of my dogs by the throat and she was screaming bloody murder. I knew better than to try and pull it off but I yelled at it… Read more »
“I don’t fight to win. Rather, I fight not to lose.” Helio Gracie.
My EDC is a Glock 43 loaded with 124gr.+P Speer Gold Dots,two extra magazines and a blade.
I’ll stick with my SIG P938 SAS and not worry about it.
I carry a .357 most of the time. But my little Ruger LCP goes with me when carrying the heavier revolver isn’t an option. Something is better than nothing. I carry it with FMJ’s. One, because I feel they will penetrate better than a hollow point. And because my little pistol was not completing the load cycle with some hollow points. They were hanging up on the ramp. I polished the ramp and that seems to have helped. But just in case, I will stick with the FMJ’s.