Spreading the Gun Control Sickness


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Spreading the Gun Control Sickness

Ft Collins, CO –-(Ammoland.com)- “The madness that is us.”

From a friend in the UK:

“Our Security Minister is putting pressure on eastern European countries, such as the Czech Republic, to forcefully impose upon their reluctant populations the same gun laws as those currently in force in the UK.

In other words, ban the private possession of all firearms.

Here in the UK, we are experiencing a frightening violent crime wave, despite all the lies we were told, assuring us that our current gun-ban would reduce crime.

Many of these violent crimes involve guns, all of which are technically illegal, but apparently not when in the hands of illegal immigrants.

Our massive illegal gun trade keeps them well supplied.

As you might imagine, eastern European nations, after seeing our ‘example,’ are less than impressed.

God help us in the UK.”

Totalitarian states can do great things, but there is one thing they cannot do: They cannot give a rifle to a factory-worker, and then tell him to take it home and keep it in his bedroom. That rifle, hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or laborer’s cottage, is The symbol of Democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.” ~ George Orwell


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  • 25 thoughts on “Spreading the Gun Control Sickness

    1. According to Trotsky in a revolution you have to kill the defenders of the ruling class the police. Are the angry British prepared to do what we Americans did on Lexington Green and fire on the Red Coats? You also have to build your own weapons. The Indians lost because they did not build their own fire arms. Except for the bow and arrow or the lance they had to rely on stolen weapons obtained from earlier battles, You can build your own crossbow. With the right machinery you can build your own semi-auto.

    2. @Ansel Hazen

      I am replying to you in a new comment because yours has not shown up on the page itself, though I did receive a copy by email.

      I do not dismiss what the Founding Fathers accomplished at all, rather I contend that what you are trying to tie them to is an outright falsehood. What has been advocated here on this article in the comment section has no correlation to the Founding Fathers, the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, or the Revolutionary War. The founding farthers told the king that what he was doing was not right, that it was hypocrisy for a king who claiming to be Christina would treat his people in such an unchristian manner. What they did was to say they were not going to follow the king any more. When the king attacked, they defended themselves plain and simple.

      What has been advocated for here, and what you are trying to link to the Founding Fathers is murder, not self defense. The idea that it is for “taking back rights”? I didn’t read people on here talking about taking back rights, they were talking about either killing off or re-educating anyone who had a different opinion than that of their own, or as they worded it “Didn’t think aright”. Perhaps you would like to quote the constitution for me then, exactly where does it describe such a process or train of thought? You argue for this blatant hypocrisy now because it fits in neatly with what you want, but if it is ever turned against you I can bet you would be crying foul while begging for protections of the constitution which today you had no problem denying to human beings you disagree with. That is not how the constitution works.

      So, I offer to you, what you are talking about is not the Revolutionary War, but rather the French Revolution. They are two wholly different creatures. In the future it would be better if you would stop making a mockery of the founding fathers and what they accomplished even as you sharpen the blade for your Guillotine, unless perhaps you plan to change your name to Robespierre.

      1. Too late for the UK, but Australia and the USA are experiencing a large wave of Civil Disobedience in every state that implemented restrictions, just as our Founders did.

      1. @ Patrick

        Many will dismiss your comment right off. I for one am not one of them. Wounds from a knife are particularly nasty in and of themselves, but a lot of people forget that you don’t need to worry only about getting cut, you also need to worry about what possible diseases the nutjob attacking you has as well should he cut himself in the process.

        It would be very easy to get a blood borne pathogen that would affect the rest of your life or ultimately kill you even if you survived the attack. This is common knowledge for many police officers, and why they treat knife wielding suspects the way they do. Here is some evidence if you like. An incident On I-75 in an area of Ohio I am quite familiar with.


        The suspect was wanted in conjunction with a murder, and pulls a knife when the patrolman goes to pat him down, first trying to kill the police officer, then screaming for the cop to kill him. He takes multiple shots and still tries to keep coming.

    3. The gov. in the U.K. is run .and has been run, by people who do not live in the real world . They live on stately mansions, far away from the real world. After WW1 they DISARMED the people. Remember the war to end all wars. when WW2 came along, they had to come to the U.S. for arms. WW2 ends, and just guess what happens? DISARM THE PEOPLE AGAIN. Fast forward to the 21 century DITTO.

      1. @richz, It would be pretty easy to put eyes on that mansion far away from the real world; surround it when the target is home; kill everyone; and quietly drive away. Half a dozen, skillful and closed lipped men in business suits could do it.

        1. Better to remove them yet alive, and sequester them in a secure location. As more of them are gathered, and as their ears are filled tih sensible ideas and wholesome values, perhaps they will reconsider their evil ways. As more of them are disappeared to no-one-knows-where, perhaps those who realise they are “on the list” will begin to ponder the connexion amongst those already disappeared, and reevaluate their own conduct accordingly. A true “reeducation camp”, where those detained will have opportunity to reform their distorted thinking and values. As those who alredy “think aright” increase in proportion to those who think “otherwise” the balance of power will shift to more sensible men and the needed changes can begin to be put in place.

          The trouble with simply liminating them permanently is that the minions of those so terminated will rise up to vindicate their deaths, strengthening the yoke of oppression on all innocents, so everyone will suffer. But what can be done against slow and steady disappearances?

          1. Tio…

            Your “solution” would, indeed, work… on sane, intelligent people. But that is not the population demographic that the liberals (Democrats, socialists, progressives, or whatever they call themselves today) are comprised of.

            Liberals will continue to push so long and so hard that their actions (and theirs alone!) will demand a civil war. They will leave no other option available. Oddly, liberals actually expect to win. I’m not sure what those anti-gun advocates intend to bring to the gunfight…

            1. That sort always have their slaves, many – if not most of them – brainwashed in their repubate religious beliefs, to do their killing/defending for them. They would never deign to soil their own hands of do any sort of work on their own.

            2. They are probably planning on bringing illegal firearms to the fight. They’ll probably steal from ppl they know just so the gun will not be connected to them. That would give them more reason to cry about everyone having guns in the US.

          2. @ Everyone

            So in order to protect against oppression, you argue the very same oppression yourselves?

            Those who already “Think aright” don’t have to worry. But who decides what thinking right is? Reeducation camps and sequestration, much like Nazi Germany moved countless jews behind walls first for the “Betterment of Society”, and then to hide what they began doing when they moved them to re-edu….. Concentration camps. How many of you have complained about State indoctrination efforts against our children in public schools? How many of you have criticized Political Correctness for trying to limit what is acceptable to say and think?

            All this from the same people who would demonize Antifa for being fascists and condemn them for using violence to try and get their way. What I have just seen argued for here is no different from what Antifa wants to do. I know many of you, and know that most of you like to purport to have support for and a firm grasp on the Constitution. I tell you the truth, you have just made a mockery of the Constitution and the Ideals that made us Americans in the first place. Quite frankly, if any of you don’t feel at least a modicum of shame for what you just advocated for, you should.

            1. @ The Revelator Do you then outright dismiss what the Founding Fathers of this country did? Their actions created the greatest country on the planet. I would offer that the posts you have responded to are simply advocating a way to recover this countries rightful greatness.

            2. Might never “makes” right… that much is true. Left unsaid, however, is that might is always required to enforce right. The mere use of force is not nearly as important as the moral, ethical, social and legal purpose/justice behind the use.

            3. @Rev, I am not advocating general oppression, just suppression of the enemies of freedom in the U.K. And the believers in the U.S. Constitution, for good reasons, might consider it here in this country, too. As the saying goes, You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
              Perhaps you have a different technique in mind, that you might share?

            4. @Wild Bill

              Yes, I do have a better option, but to answer you and provide the context for the reasoning behind it I must answer fully before I can state the option itself.

              Have you considered that Suppression is a synonym for Oppression? Other synonyms that pop up with it are tyranny, subjugation, and enslavement. Now think about this, any time you try to control a population with an iron fist and dictate over people what they will do they always reject it. There are things that can be done to postpone it, but eventually the bill comes due and the longer it was postponed the bigger the bill gets. Remember, a pendulum swings both ways, and on its return journey it swings to the other side just as hard is it initially swung in the other direction. Ultimately, there is one option for this type of tyranny to last as long as possible until it eventually fails, and that is to murder all dissenters (A historical example being Islam, though now because of America we have a safe haven for reformers like Zudi Jasser where islamists don’t have the opportunity to kill them on sight)

              Forced Indoctrination or killing off those who refuse to conform may be argued as “Having to break a few eggs”, but if you go down that road you can no longer tell anybody that you believe in the constitution or the premise that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights. I’ve given the quote before but I’ll restate it here. Men who hunt monsters should take care lest they become monsters themselves. As an example, you strike me as someone who at some point in his life talked about or contemplated how evil Joseph Stalin was, about how many people Stalin ended up being responsible for murdering thanks to his trying to spread communism. Now, can you tell me why you are defending and trying to justify comments which call for directly mimicking actions and policies that Stalin himself practiced. “But you don’t understand, we have a really good reason! To protect these rights we have to violate them.” That sounds a lot like what the socialist left tries to argue as a reason for gun control. You either believe in absolute rights or you don’t. There is no middle ground, there is no good intention excuse. That is the choice you must make.

              So what is the solution? Stand on principle, even when it is the hardest thing in the world to do. That was the course the founders took. They stood their ground and because they practiced Civil Disobedience, it was the King that chose to be an oppressor and become the villain. It is ok to stand your ground and fight to defend yourself, and the only people who will be viewed at as evil are those who come to squash those defending their lives. Tell you what, I know more than a few people who try to argue that that practice cannot or will never work. The problem is it has worked. Think about what happened in Oregon and Nevada over the last few years. Compare what happened with the ranch standoff where citizens stood together to oppose thuggish behavior on the part of the Bureau of Land Management and also that of Antifa. Which groups won, which lost? The media covered the standoff as much as they could to try and paint it in as bad a light as possible but the ranchers are still considered the victims and were supported. On the opposite side, the media has done everything they can to ignore covering anything Antifa related unless they can try and paint an opposing group as the villain, but time and again sane rational people on both the left and right reject everything Antifa has done. You might not be hearing about it right now, but believe it or not there is an exodus going on from people on the left who are starting to wake up to the lies they have been told over the last three decades. The reason they are waking up, because they are beginning to see the evil being done by people on their own side, while meeting people like myself who are not just telling them but also showing them that we/I don’t want to oppress them. Want an example? Michael Rectenwald, Former New York professor and avowed Communist, who ended up changing his mind about a lot of what he believed in because of the idiots on the left who turned on him to destroy him when he began to dissent. I’ll link to an Article talking about what happened with him at the end. Prefer something a little more historical? Perhaps you remember Whittaker Chambers, the man who exposed Alger Hiss during congressional hearings in 1948.

              The solution is to be consistent and practice what you preach. Once you can do that you no longer have any weak points of hypocrisy for anyone to dismantle you with, and you can teach your neighbor that you have a better system. You still get to stand your ground and defend your rights when they come under attack, but you don’t become a villain since you didn’t squash the rights of others. Consistency and principle. So I ask you, are you going to live based on the Constitution, or live to violate it?


          3. @Tio, Capives require feeding, housing, and misc. care. That is a lot of work, logistics, and secrecy is risked. And they are witnesses. It is better that they be the only evidence left behind.

        2. An elite Dutch banker, by the name of Ronald Bernard, used to be one of them. But he had an epiphany and became a recent whistleblower on the situation. He says, amongst other interesting facts, that there are between 8,000 and 8,500 of these elite psychopaths who literally run and control the world. I get the impression from what he says that they are beyond redemption, sort of like those creatures from the “Alien” movies with Siguorney Weaver. Most are addicted to AdrenoChrome, a drug that comes from…well, never mind, you can look it up, it disturbs me to think about it. Mr. Bernard has several interviews posted on the net. The #1 interview is the first one you should watch. Just google “Elite Dutch Banker Ronald Bernard” and pick the one in English. His further interviews explain a lot about the structure those devils devised to be top dogs and keep everyone else in place.

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