Some Republicans Now Want Gun Confiscation

Opinion. Senate Judiciary Committee to Hold Hearings in Favor of Gun Confiscation. Let’s Generate a Massive Outcry Against Gun Confiscation Orders in the Senate!

Republicans Now Want Gun Confiscation
Republicans Now Want Gun Confiscation

Washington, DC – -(AmmoLand.com)- It’s been said quite often that Republicans are the “Stupid Party.”

Well, the party of stupid has struck again, and “Exhibit A” is the Republican Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee — Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

Based on what Graham is doing, one would think he’s planning to forfeit control of the Senate to the Democrats and to lose the White House in 2020. Because he is holding a hearing to promote the nastiest form of Bloomberg-sponsored gun control.

As it turns out, Graham and his new “best buddy,” anti-gun zealot Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), are scheduling a hearing on Gun Confiscation Orders — sugar-coated as “red-flag laws” — on March 26 of this month.

Gun Confiscation “red-flag” Orders were drafted and are being promoted nationally by Leftist anti-gun billionaire Michael Bloomberg.

They would allow an angry relative or the police to make a telephone call to a judge. And, based on that telephone call, the judge can issue an order stripping you of your Second, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights — all without your knowledge.

The first thing you would learn about it is when the SWAT Team arrived at your door in the middle of the night — ready to ransack your home and, if you resisted, to arrest or shoot you.

Let’s make one thing perfectly clear: Gun Confiscation Orders would not have stopped ANY mass shooting in American history — and they do NOTHING to reduce homicides, suicides, crime, or mass shootings.

Gun Confiscation “red-flag” laws have been proven to be ineffective:

  • They were in effect in Connecticut at the time of the Newtown shooting in 2012.
  • They had long been in effect in California during the Thousand Oaks massacre last year.
  • And they were in effect in Illinois during the Aurora shooting earlier this year.
  • In fact, criminologist John Lott has conducted the definitive study of Gun Confiscation Orders.

He found that red flag laws have been an utter failure when it comes to lowering crime rates:

  • They do not reduce homicides;
  • They do not reduce suicides;
  • They do not reduce mass shootings;
  • They do not reduce crime of any kind; and
  • They may even INCREASE the incidence of rape.

So if red flag laws don’t make people safer, what are they good for? In short, they are just another effort by gun-hater Bloomberg to “put points on the board.” To date, only two key Senate bills imposing Gun Confiscation Orders have been introduced (S. 7 and S. 506). But more such bills are expected.

So now is the time to contact your Senators and demand that they oppose this dangerous legislation.

In Liberty,

Michael Hammond
Legislative Counsel


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Joseph
Joseph
1 year ago

Senator Graham
You’re treading on dangerous ground. Obama invites hordes of dangerous refugees into the country and now you want to take away the guns we use to protect ourselves. You’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you

Ronald v Tilley
Ronald v Tilley
1 year ago
Reply to  Joseph

Yeah he is another dumb ass probably should be running as a liberal from now on

Teddy Wm. Dover
Teddy Wm. Dover
1 year ago

Exactly, I live in S.C. and hate this dumb stupid sounding southern Jeff Flake! Pray the freak dies!

wayne
wayne
1 year ago

I said that when McCain died and now I add Marc Rubio to the list.

Clifford olsen
Clifford olsen
1 year ago

Great you are opening the door for some foreign country to put a hit on us, knowing they have taken our firearms away. Think you political fools.

bradford lehman
bradford lehman
1 year ago
Reply to  Clifford olsen

——————————————————–Not forien Oh no the United Nations!————————–

Roy
Roy
1 year ago

So if and when a judge decide to tell the police they can show up my door to take away my gun they better remember when i show up at there door. I will not be looking to take away there gun I’ll be looking for pay back

Carol
Carol
1 year ago
Reply to  Roy

Roy, it’s easy to be angry, but we (all Americans) must use our heads whether we are gun owners or not. Making comments that allude to anger and pay back (whatever that means) will not help our case to prevent the loss of our Second Amendment and the ultimate end of our Constitution. The Second is the hinge on which our country will remain free. It is our ONLY defense!

Cloye Jr Lea
Cloye Jr Lea
1 year ago
Reply to  Roy

Right on

Lawrence Fowler
Lawrence Fowler
1 year ago

it’s my right to have a gun.I will not give it up or my right to have it.

William Hornsey
William Hornsey
1 year ago

I oppose any attempt at a Gun Grab. This goes against the core values of this country. I can’t believe Lindsey Graham is supporting this.

Mike Thornsley
Mike Thornsley
1 year ago

Why not? Graham is a RINO. He has always been more left then right. He is gone with the Democrats and his voting so many times it’s pathetic! Oh he has stood up a couple times and made himself to look like he’s a tough conservative. When you look at his record he is a fluffy puppet of the Democrat party.

John D.
John D.
1 year ago

I like Graham but he’s losing me with this. But why should he care? I’m in California.

He’s kicking off his 2020 re-election campaign in South Carolina with Mike Pence on March 30. Please, if you’re in South Carolina, tell him in person, call his office, whatever you need to do — tell him he will lose if he doesn’t come to his senses on this issue.

yogiman
yogiman
1 year ago
Reply to  John D.

I liked Graham until he ‘fell in line’ with this anti-Constitutional crap. He’s now just another one of them around the corner.

Brandon
Brandon
1 year ago
Reply to  yogiman

Fell in line? He’s always been this way. He just “acted” conservative for 15 minutes and made a phony speech that got y’all worked up.

JCLincoln
JCLincoln
1 year ago

Everybody …… make a list, check it twice … of all these Senators who want to confiscate guns….. next election, break out the list.

TheHolyCrow
TheHolyCrow
1 year ago
Reply to  JCLincoln

They need to be dragged out of bed at 3am and sat down in front of a Military Tribunal convened in their front lawns. Seems to me that they are in violation of: 1) The Second Ammendment of the US Constitution. 2) Felonious Perjury Laws 3) 18 USC 241 4) 18 USC 242 5) TREASON–In collusion with others, they are waging a war against the Constitution, which they took an oath to uphold. And I am not a lawyer. I am willing to wager that a good lawyer could comb thru the law books and find a myriad of laws… Read more »

yogiman
yogiman
1 year ago
Reply to  TheHolyCrow

Agreed. They are violating the Constitution they swore to uphold…. and I believe they will create a rebellion if they try to take guns away from we citizens. History shows that if a government can get control of the citizens’ guns, it has control of the citizens. We’re ready, ‘guvmunt’, are you?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  yogiman

@yogiman, If “they” try to take our guns away, then they will be in open rebellion to the U.S. Constitution.

Joe W Messner
Joe W Messner
1 year ago
Reply to  TheHolyCrow

You are absolutely correct in the (5) bullet points above.
This CRAZY shit is getting way out of control.
I say lest stand up as ONE USA Patriot and use the laws they created that they want to use against us.
Yesterday I read that a Representative from Hawaii wants to abolish the @Second Amendment.
If they so much as try there will be Hell To Pay for there stupidity.
Sincerely
III % Patriot

wayne
wayne
1 year ago
Reply to  TheHolyCrow

We have the right to sue them personally just like they are doing to Trump and it is Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio the two or more Republicans that support this law.

Jaque
Jaque
1 year ago

THE ERPO will be used do deny Americans all their constitutional rights. Gun confiscation is the beginning. Social Media reviews are next. Denial of all freedoms for political reasons is the ultimate goal. Hitler, Stalin, Lenin and other despots all used an individuals mental health as reason to detain, imprison, and kill. Once democrats seize power guns will be the first things to be banned History is ones best teacher.

Ron
Ron
1 year ago
Reply to  Jaque

You are dead on historically accurate. We’ve been free for so long we can’t envision that here. CDC documented in late 1990s that gun use to protect and stop crime, dwarfed their use to commit crimes. These results did not match their politicised narrative so they Buried these results.

ecks why
ecks why
1 year ago

I haven’t read all the comments but the article is about as gdamn clueless a pile of words as I’ve seen in a lonnnnnnnnnng time
You idiots whining about these red flag bills need to educate your dumb asses about the reality of untreated mental illness
And then go look into all these mass shootings SURPRISE if the shooter is not some mooslime jeehawdi then its some fuckup
who has been causing serious trouble for months if not years before completely going nutters and shooting people
UNTIL THEN JUST STFU YOU IDIOTS
THANKS

Myrna Lieberman
Myrna Lieberman
1 year ago
Reply to  ecks why

You are an absolute fool and likely a Democrat who dosent know the first thing about the issue.
What you prefer is to unarm every American citizen . You simply don’t understand the 2nd amendment, don’t even know that Hitler confiscated all guns from its citizens. When that happened, all the Jews and anyone who opposed the government were sent to concentration camps. They came to get you in the middle of the night with their boot in your face . .

Fred Elliot
Fred Elliot
1 year ago

Spot on Myrna. I’ve been a Republican since the day after JFK was killed and LBJ started our downward slide toward destroying our country with entitlement slavery of his ”hreat society” because JFK was the last (and possibly the first and only) thinking Democrat. Now Senator Graham seems to have lost his marbles. As you so wisely point out, the second amendment was created when the Founders realized that it was the only way to resist another Hitler or our own government might take a giant step backwards and subjugate its own people. Unfettered gun ownership of firearms by legal… Read more »

Fred Ellis
Fred Ellis
1 year ago
Reply to  ecks why

Hey wks why you expose your low I.Q. And ignorance when all you can do is limit the thrust of your comments to the use of four letter words. Shame on you.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago
Reply to  ecks why

@ecks why

Since you have decided to out yourself as prime moron number 2 here, follow your own advice.

We are well aware of the reality of untreated mental illness. After all, you and Green Watch Dog are the picture perfect examples of that dilemma facing the country, not just the Ammoland comment Section.

You’re welcome. 🙂

Timothy Votaw
Timothy Votaw
1 year ago
Reply to  ecks why

Some truth in it, but it is “throwing the baby out with the bath water”, penalizing good, lawful citizens in such a drastic manner, when the reason for the action by law enforcement can be bogus, untrue, a vendetta, THAT IS PLAIN FUCKING INSANE. It does NOTHING to avert criminals from their acts, in fact takes good people out of any equation involving self-protection, or intervention in criminal acts happening to others. Draconian, and evil. . What this really is: Carte Blanche to pick off gun owners, one at a time. That way, no one cares, because we all go… Read more »

RotaryConnected
RotaryConnected
1 year ago
Reply to  ecks why

@Ecks why….. About 450 people in total have been killed by mass shooters in this country, since its inception. And there is a strong correlation between SSRI ingestion and those who go nuts. Most shootings have occurred by people on SSRI’s. . I am sorry for those 450 people who were killed, but the 2A is more important to the rest of the law abiding gun owners. Many more than that are killed in car accidents but I don’t see you TRAITORS p*ssing and moaning about car ownership, or drivers lisences for young people, who cause most of the accidents.… Read more »

Richard & Deanne deVlugt
Richard & Deanne deVlugt
1 year ago
Reply to  ecks why

Everything you just used in your argument has nothing to do with our rights. If someone wants a person dead, they will use something else if a gun isn’t available. But having guns keeps us free. Wake up and look at all the countries with no gun rights. They are being persecuted, as they have always been persecuted. You are the flaming idiot if you think otherwise. You are the kind of person who will be responsible for the death of thousands of people because of your backward, dumb thinking.

Daniel Ward
Daniel Ward
1 year ago
Reply to  ecks why

I don’t own a gun but with your logic maybe I should. This country has gone bat shit crazy. There is nothing wrong in our Constitution. If something happens to me I will go down fighting. I don’t want it but I won’t blindly look the other way.
Liberty or Death.

Mike Farris
Mike Farris
1 year ago

If government spent half as much time on CRIME CONTROL as they do on “gun control”, America would be a much safer country Time For A New Government for The United States of America Governments exist to support the rights of the people. Governments exist only through the power of the people that they represent. When a government fails to grant rights to the people and removes the involvement of the people, the people have the right to change their government in a way that will allow for their unalienable rights to be protected. Governments should not be overthrown for… Read more »

Walter Goddard
Walter Goddard
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Farris

I’m willing to settle for an ethical politician with a sense of humor, and a revival of the Constitution!

luckieboy
luckieboy
1 year ago

Any Demos reading the above comments have a big smile on their faces . Here we are fighting between ourselves. Just the type of disorganization antis relish.

The Green Watch Dog
The Green Watch Dog
1 year ago

Ammo Land Viewers, As you may be aware, ERPOSs have passed in 14 states, with over a dozen states that have an active bill introduced . One bill has already been signed into law so far this year! These orders are designed to protect our loved ones while protecting law abiding citizens their right to bear arms. Some do oppose ERPOs’ and unfortunately, they will never accept or understand their importance: That is to save lives, and ensure the safety of Americans from harms way. I and the majority of Our People of this nation support ERPOS, along with our… Read more »

Free Helicopter Rides For Commies
Free Helicopter Rides For Commies
1 year ago

GWD, YOU LIE ONCE AGAIN.

ERPO’s are GUN CONFISCATION BACK DOOR BILLS. THE MAJORITY OF US DO NOT SUPPORT THEM!

SO GFY and GTFO of AMMOLAND, YOU COMMIE POS ANTIGUN TROLL!!

Ericnohio
Ericnohio
1 year ago

So by your line of thinking, since 17 states currently have Constitutional Carry laws, it should be nationwide. Now that’s something to get behind. The states stepping up to protect Constitutionally protected rights, not attempting to strip people of their God given rights. GWD you are free to give up everything for a false sense of security. As has been famously said, anyone willing to give up liberty for security, deserves neither. Stick your head back in the sand troll. Molon Labe!
You are welcome.

m.
m.
1 year ago

no one cares what anti-2a d-suckers have to say about anything

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@Green Watch Dog

Your lies wont fly here, sorry.

ERPO’s are not about MAGA, they are about Making Americans Slaves Again.

ERPO’s will never ever save lives. They are going to cost lives. Americans have a right to self defense and to keep and bear Arms. KEEP, and bear. There is no guaranteed right to safety.

If you truly want to make America safer, go jump off a cliff and save the nation from your Stupidity.

We will not comply.

TheHolyCrow
TheHolyCrow
1 year ago

They need to be dragged out of bed at 3am and sat down in front of a Military Tribunal convened in their front lawns. Seems to me that they are in violation of: 1) The Second Ammendment of the US Constitution. 2) Felonious Perjury Laws 3) 18 USC 241 4) 18 USC 242 5) TREASON–In collusion with others, they are waging a war against the Constitution, which they took an oath to uphold. And I am not a lawyer. I am willing to wager that a good lawyer could comb thru the law books and find a myriad of laws… Read more »

RotaryConnected
RotaryConnected
1 year ago

The Answer: 3am Military Tribunals for the TRAITOR politicians who write these laws, on their front lawns. They broke their oaths. Cut off the head of the snake. GWD and his ilk will either put a sock in it, or run to another country to spread his UN Small Arms Treaty commie crap.

James Slemons
James Slemons
1 year ago

LINDSAY YOU ARE OUR SENATOR PLEASE DO NOT MESS WITH OUR GUN LAWS ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH CAROLINA !!!

Hugh Bridgers
Hugh Bridgers
1 year ago
Reply to  James Slemons

Graham owns two AR15’s .Wonder if he will give them up. I can tell you this, he will lose in his next run for senate seat if takes a stance against the 2nd amendment. I am truly ashamed of him for his move to the far left on gun rights. MONEY TALKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 15 if you count them

TheHolyCrow
TheHolyCrow
1 year ago
Reply to  James Slemons

I always knew he was a pinko pantywaists faggot. He forgot to keep a stiff upper lip and a tight arseh*le. Betcha he has a fat Swiss account full of money he got for selling us out over the years. He should have gotten an envelope at Poppy Bush’s. Funeral, too. But don’t worry Lindsey, it’s never too late !

William
William
1 year ago

So I can make a false claim against my neighbor and have his rights violated even if it’s temporary without any due process.Where does this even remotely seem plausible?By the way I would never make such a claim.

JohnV
JohnV
1 year ago
Reply to  William

Yes, then the person is guilty until they prove themselves innocent. There’s $100K in lawyer fees. After that the innicent person has to sue to get their arms back. Another $100K. (Only if the local authorities don’t destroy them first!

Robert
Robert
1 year ago

Uhh c.schummer thinks hitler was great.wonder how many rhinos he shhok hands with and left some george soros $$$ in their palms? Change must happen quick before we drown

Sandra Vinyard
Sandra Vinyard
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert

Schumer is a known Nazi and we are crazy to keep him in office

Tad Pole
Tad Pole
1 year ago

Civil War Eminent !
Keep Your Powder Dry!

Mark Rybeck
Mark Rybeck
1 year ago
Reply to  Tad Pole

Ready, Aim Fire

craig
craig
1 year ago

Dear God,,,PLEASE LET THE SUPREME COURT GET HOLD OF THIS….ITS ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Red flag is the VERY same thing HITLER did in Germany…having neighbors tell on other neighbors….Now with such a possible law will mean you are guilty of anything PRIOR TO BEING innocent……wow…wow…NEEDS TO BE STOPPED NOW….

these sort of laws if ever put in place will cause a civil war in this country…..wowo..wow

Deplorable Bill
Deplorable Bill
1 year ago

Wow. I had thought he was one of the few that had some common sense. That he would not disavow his oath to defend the constitution of the United States. With turn coats like this, who needs demoncrats/socialists? While you can bet they are reading our mail here and logging our opinions, we must speak up. I figure this is a lot like John Hancock signing the declaration of independence so large that a blind man could read it. It is obvious to me that the second war for independence is on it’s way. If this were 1776 the rounds… Read more »

circle8
circle8
1 year ago

Never, never trust lindsay graham. He is a traitor to our rights and a coward.

John Dow
John Dow
1 year ago

ERPOs are nothing but a smokescreen for gun confiscation.

If the person is a threat, control the person, not things.

If a person is a threat, why are only firearms confiscated? What about knives, gas cans, automobiles, ropes, and every other thing that can be used to harm oneself or others.

This is America, the law is supposed to be that the state proves you guilty, not that you have to prove yourself innocent, at your cost.

tomcat
tomcat
1 year ago

Graham is nothing but a buffoon. He is a rino by heart and a useless big mouth in the senate. He has never been a conservative. While you S Carolina gun positive people are looking for a Constitutional Carry vote, I have to ask you what the hell will you do with it if your cheesy senate mole takes your rights away by passing a national red flag law. Get your priorities straight. It is more important to maintain the rule of law THEN go after the condiments you desire. It is really too bad we have to be faced… Read more »

The Green Watch Dog
The Green Watch Dog
1 year ago
Reply to  tomcat

Tom Cat,
Have to disagree with you on this one. I admire Senator Graham. As he is a moderate Republican, I liked it when he compare himself with Reagan-style political values. A Republican with a sprinkling of independent values. In the next few years, expect our ERPOs to be adopted by more states. I know it is somewhat of a thorny issue with you and others, but with the majority majority of bipartisan support it should go national.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@The Green Watch Dog Doesn’t matter if you disagree or agree. Graham is as far from Regan as Obama is as far from JFK. Graham is not moderate. The correct term is progressive. Again, ERPO’s are unconstitutional no matter who or how many support it, it is still illegal and violates constitutional law. That is fact, not because I say so, but because the Constitution says so. You would have to completely Amend and Repeal the entire Bill of Rights to make ERPO’s legal. And if you try to force it on us, you are going to achieve two things.… Read more »

The Green Watch Dog
The Green Watch Dog
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

The revelator,
What do I have to do to you to absorbed that your hero, Gary J. Willis had a weapon in hand fighting with law enforcement? Oh, I know what you mean: Anyone who brandishes a weapon should be supported by the right to bear arms. Out at a sporting event, at a drive by, robbing grandma, robbing children of their girl scout cookies, or at a residence where law enforcement officers attempting to serve a warrant: Lets support our “Right To Bear Arms.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@Green Watch Dog Even More attempts at lies, amazing. Robbing Grandma, Girl scouts, and shooting up a sporting event? Seriously, you are equating the second amendment to breaking the Law via theft and mass murder. You have succeeded in reaching a new level of severe mental retardation. Congratulations. Gary Willis had his gun in his hand. Can you prove he pointed it at the officers? No you cannot. He had a grip on it because he was not about to turn it over. But here is the biggest lie you are trying to push right now. Warrants produced by secret… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@ The Green Watch Dog Oh, and I decided not to wait for your next lie. See, What I just said about defending your home and property even against police when they break the law to enforce things that violate the constitution, there are already court cases that have defended that idea, and money awarded to the victims. I’m also the son of law enforcement, my father, mother, grandparents, and extended family working in every field of law enforcement from local, county, military, and federal levels. So no, any claims you make to try and paint me as anti LEO… Read more »

The Green Watch Dog
The Green Watch Dog
1 year ago

The revelator, He is either grossly misinformed, intentionally deceives others, or both. He leaves out key issues whenever debating an issue. An example is the tragic death of Gary Willis. According to the police, The subject of the protective order, Gary J. Willis, answered his door with gun in his hand. He initially put the gun down next to the door, but picked the weapon up again. A fight then ensued over the gun according to a police spokeswoman. One of the officers struggled to take the gun from Willis, and during the struggle the gun fired but did not… Read more »

Walter Goddard
Walter Goddard
1 year ago

Howwwllll r ya doin 2day GWD? Ya still barkin up the wrong trees? @ REV doesn’t need my help to defend himself, but I do have one question for you! “Does your ass ever get jealous over all the shit coming out of your mouth?” We need a super pooper scooper for you and all your friends GWD.. Can’t hardly move a foot with out step-in in it! I’ve seen you have some reinforcements around here too.. those anti-Semitic, Jew hating, anti-2A supporters… All of them are trapped in their own corrupt philosophies! They pretend to be your friend, just… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago
Reply to  Walter Goddard

@Walter Goddard

Yeah, the lying little pipsqueak has his soggy diaper all knotted up because he hasn’t been able to win an argument against me since he started back in December.

You can almost hear his whimpering little mewls mixed with the spattering of his tears as he pounds out his pitiful replies with two fingers, waiting for mommy to come change his nappy. lol

Walter Goddard
Walter Goddard
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

LMOA..

Does that mean we have to keep wiping his chin, ignore his shit spewing grin, and feeding him organic Bloomburger pudding?
…I draw the line at changing diapers though lol

.. Liberty or Death!

TheHolyCrow
TheHolyCrow
1 year ago
Reply to  Walter Goddard

@Walter….You should get your facts straight before you make ignorant statements. KHAZARS HAVE NO SEMETIC DNA. Their ancestors never dipped a toe in the Holy Land (Palestine). They are not descended from Abraham. You are deluded in your thinking. It is the Khazarian Mafia that is behind the gun control movement.

Walter Goddard
Walter Goddard
1 year ago
Reply to  TheHolyCrow

You probably believe, that I should be honored, to respond to your trash!
Ronnie would say, “here we go again”!

While I just dropped my drawers to honor you @ THC, answer this question while you’re crowing at the “moon”…
Does your A** ever get jealous over all the Sh** coming out of YOUR MOUTH?

Yeah, I love you Too!

Dave in Fairfax
Editor
Dave in Fairfax
1 year ago

I’m curious, who is it that you think that you are fooling? You’ve always lied with your sourcing and misstatements. Initially you were an obvious left wing troll. Then you tried to pretend that you were a thoughtful middle-of-the-roader. Now it looks like you’re pretending to have a religious side. You’ve gone from being minimally amusing to being disgusting. You are not fooling anyone.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@Dave in Fairfax Oh yes. GWD cries himself to sleep each night repeating “Ammoland Readers like me no matter what anyone says” over and over in a fetal position. Yeah, he started the Religious aspect back in January, thought if he used the word “Christianity” as a shield it would keep people from pointing out his lies. Twice now he has been schooled on this using Scriptural quotation. More than happy to provide both comments I wrote on it if you like. Per usual, he was unable to argue against either, and instead slunk off with his tail between his… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@ The Green Watch Dog Wow, more lies from GWD, no surprise there. Lets examine them, and especially what GWD did not quote from the article. “According to The revelator, anyone who has a gun, has the right to point his weapon at anyone, especially at police without just cause.” Here is how this lie works. It’s a Strawman. Present only the idea that Gary Willis had a gun and then present the idea that he pointed it at police. One Problem with that, No where in the article he is quoting does it ever say Willis “Pointed his gun… Read more »

Riverwolf
Riverwolf
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

Anyone who tries to break down my door is there to kill me and my family. They will think John Wick and Carlos Hathcock somehow bred. A jury can sort out the survivors.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago
Reply to  Riverwolf

@Riverwolf

Ah, white feather… A good man. So glad Charles Henderson penned his biographies.

tomcat
tomcat
1 year ago

@ Green Rat Fink Byte You argue just like the progressive you are. We are law abiding citizens who know the rights we are endowed by our creator includes being able to defend ourselves against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. When someone arbitrarily kicks your door in with guns drawn that is a point of defence that we are endowed with. If you are one, and you have said so, that calls the cops and gets their adrenalin up then you are a swatter and a murderer by your actions. Rev. has been trying to explain the many Amendments… Read more »

JPM
JPM
1 year ago

To the NRA administration, those gun owners who don’t support the fight for the 2nd Amendment, to the 2-faced politicians and those who advocate following the “rules” of the broken corrupt election system we have, I quote Samuel Adams, “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago
Reply to  JPM

@JPM Nice to see That quote again. It’s what was in my mind during the previous weeks when I told Green Watch Dog “That he may be a Citizen of the US, but he is not an American” Remember also Alexis de Tocqueville “When the taste for physical gratifications among them has grown more rapidly than their education . . . the time will come when men are carried away and lose all self-restraint . . . . It is not necessary to do violence to such a people in order to strip them of the rights they enjoy; they… Read more »

Mart3
Mart3
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

Sounds like de Tocqueville read yesterday’s paper… *sigh*

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago
Reply to  Mart3

Well, it may have been a rerun. History repeats itself my friend.

We went to war over confiscatory taxes, government over regulation/oppression, and confiscation of arms. Looking like round 2 is coming up.

Shawn Alexandre Grammont
Shawn Alexandre Grammont
1 year ago

Spineless backstabbers.

Clifffalling
Clifffalling
1 year ago

I’ve worked in mental health for over 20 years. These actions are already on the books in all 50 states in one form or another. I’ve enacted 100’s of them myself. You are being fooled if you think it’s a new thing. These jokers are just rebranding, and extending in some cases. More evidence for the case of using honey instead of vinegar. Stop cussing and threatening people in the fight to protect our rights, or you might be getting the proverbial knock at your door. Then what good will you be to anyone? Use your noggin, fight the fight… Read more »

Shaun
Shaun
1 year ago
Reply to  Clifffalling

THANK YOU!
You’re exactly right!
Cussing and jumping up and down and making threats and big movements with your arms through a debate DESTROYS your credibility to others. We’ve got to out smart them at their own game. Calm down, keep temperament in check and STRIKE! (With debating words and facts)
Hopefully the ill-educated masses will wake up and see the truth.

JPM
JPM
1 year ago
Reply to  Clifffalling

So Cliff, you’re advocating rolling over and playing dead and using the same busted system that created the problem in the first place to fix it? You’ve enacted 100s of gun confiscation orders yourself? Sounds like you’re the one needing mental health assistance. You’re obviously on the wrong side of this debate, you’re a troll or you’re just not too bright and belong in the Democratic Party.

The other Jim
The other Jim
1 year ago

It passed the full Congress, but the Senate let S.446 – Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 sit with no activity for a year.
Then in December 2018 the Republican Senate just simply continue to do nothing, and the day for National Constitutional Concealed Reciprocity expired.

Gas Block in WA
Gas Block in WA
1 year ago

A 63 YEAR OLD BACHELOR? HMMM. SOMEONE IS HOLDING SOMETHING OVER HIM.

JPM
JPM
1 year ago

I’ve seen football bats, 3 dollar bills and sissies that are straighter and more masculine than Graham. He was “butt buddies” with McCain and now it looks like he’s been swappin’ spit with Bloomberg and is finally “coming out” showing his true colors as a closet Democrat and liberal.

Dan LaMoreaux
Dan LaMoreaux
1 year ago

Message to all Congress Personnel: If you pass these stupid “Red lag Laws” we will vote you out of office at the next election. Your replacements will have to repeal / undo the stupidity.

Mark R
Mark R
1 year ago
Reply to  Dan LaMoreaux

We should have realized this past mid-terms voting DOESN’T work. It doesn’t matter any longer who we vote in, someone has got them by the balls either through blackmail, personal threats or other ways to force them to go along with the anti-Constitutional bills being passed.

m.
m.
1 year ago

…a lot of things can happen to dog-s**t…

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
1 year ago

When McCain passed, I was certain in his will he gave Graham his spine back. It appears he go it back ‘on condition’.

Green Mtn. Boy
Green Mtn. Boy
1 year ago

Lindsey Gram-nasty has always been a most worthless RINO,not surprised by his move in the least,I was rather suspecting it.
Some yahoo in a post about a month ago told me I was clueless when I posted that Graham would do just what he has ,now who is clueless.

Burner
Burner
1 year ago

Traitors

The Green Watch Dog
The Green Watch Dog
1 year ago

I support what the National Rifle Association (NRA) supports on this issue as well: As stated by Jennifer Baker, spokesperson for the NRA: “Nobody wants dangerous people to have access to firearms, which is why the NRA supports risk protection orders with adequate due process protections and ensure those adjudicated to be dangerously mentally ill receive treatment. The NRA believes that any effort should be structured to fully protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens while preventing truly dangerous individuals from accessing firearms. We will only support an [Emergency Risk Protection Order] process that strongly protects both Second Amendment… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@The Green Watch Dog

You support violations against the Constitution along with the NRA… Big Surprise. As has been pointed out elsewhere trump is not “Pro 2a” while he is violating the second amendment and Article 1 Section 1 of the Constitution.

You are not a Second Amendment Supporter plain and Simple, because ERPO’s are a Violation of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th amendments. This has been pointed out to you time after time since December.

The moment you support ERPO’s/Red Flag laws, you are Anti 2A by definition.

GWD. Still a lying, cowardly Cur.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

For those wondering, here is the big lie in this rendition of GWD’s comment this time around via the NRA spokes demon. “We will only support an [Emergency Risk Protection Order] process that strongly protects both Second Amendment rights and due process rights at the same time.” An ERPO is antithetical to Due Process. To have an ERPO, it must by definition of its action Violate Due process, and the above mentioned enumerated rights from the Bill of Rights. Here is how 1. The Accused is not informed of the hearing, which is held in secret. 2. The Accused is… Read more »

The Green Watch Dog
The Green Watch Dog
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

The revelator, Let me scold, I mean provide you facts on one issue: The accuser must first fill out a form (with evidence) citing the danger(s) to himself or others. What is called a court of law will then hold a hearing. The judge will or will not agree that the individual is a threat. Their gun will be temporary taken away from their warm hands for a period of time. That time period is @14 days to one year. Again, With supporting data from unbiased sources the majority polled supports ERPOs. I will admit “The revelator” that the majority… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@The Green Watch Dog There is a name for that form. It’s legally called “Hear-say”. There is no level maintained on evidence beyond the baseless claim. Under ERPO’s the excuse is “Well they might commit a crime, we don’t know….” It’s already claimed its first victim Gary J. Willis, Murdered because he said no and resisted after he opened his door when someone was banging on it at 5AM. So, what evidence was presented to the court. Interestingly enough when asked, “A spokeswoman for the Maryland Judiciary denied a request to see any and all requests for protection orders made… Read more »

Pistol Packin Preacher
Pistol Packin Preacher
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

You are right on brother again it is called our constitution as you so aptly and exactly stated Amen and Amen

Proctor
Proctor
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

The Revelator, on point!

Jimbo66
Jimbo66
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

I have to totally agree with you Revelator. The laws they are trying to pass make you a criminal without solid proof. Hearsay is not admissible in a court of law now and it should remain that way. I really care not what these other posters think if it is against what I believe. As far as I’m concerned anyone that likes anything that makes someone guilty without physical proof is pretty much brain dead. A lot of us defended the ignorant people’s rights to be ignorant and I still stand by my oath even if it was years ago.… Read more »

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago
Reply to  Jimbo66

@Jimbo66 Succinctly put. I for one, support your right to choose what is right for you, and like you stand by an oath to protect individual liberty. Of course it is for that very same reason that GWD is evil, because people who tell him he has no right to control their rights and abilities to make choices for themselves he thinks have to be controlled or killed. I have no qualms or hesitations whatsoever in using any means to defend myself against such people even if they have a piece of metal on their chest. I tip my hat… Read more »

Davidhales
Davidhales
1 year ago

Hasn’t the SCOTUS already settled this? Our government does not represent the people. Instead of putting anything on a ballot that they may lose the do an end run around us the taxpayers and enact a law that turns people instantly into criminals. Do you really think that they won’t use this law to confiscate law abiding citizens guns? That’s the only guns they know where to find. They won’t confiscate illegal guns because they don’t have the names and addresses of those.

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
1 year ago

TGWD, and yet none of the ERPOs that have passed provide any due process nor due process protections. So you then must agree that ERPOs are unconstitutional and bad. Our current president is not a 2A president, since he believes in a bump stock ban and ERPOs. You are an E5, based on the scale that Wild Bill spoke of recently.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

@Heed the Call-up Bingo, good call… But seriously, E5???? I would have thought he qualifies as an F6 for sure. (For those not as smart as Heed the Call, Wild Bill, and a few others….. Ok, namely the idiot Green Watch Dog lacking in mental facilities as he is, 6 is military slang for your back porch, where Green Watch dog has spent the last three months cramming his head as far up inside of his own as to use his skull in the manner of a womans personal marital implement, hence the letter F designation.) I’m sure GWD will… Read more »

Samantha parker
Samantha parker
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

Yep civil war on the way

Walter Goddard
Walter Goddard
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

Thanks for educating me @ Rev..

I didn’t know what the designations were about 🙂
The closest I’ve personally gotten to joining the service was taking an entrance exam for the Marines, scoring an 82..
I didn’t join; and went to work for 4 times minimum wage in 79, instead of becoming one of the few, one of the proud…. Marines!

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago
Reply to  Walter Goddard

@Walter Goddard

My father was in the Corps. I was kept from joining any branch thanks to my two bum knees. Self Deteriorating to the point I had to have my first surgery just after entering highschool. Technically I’m an official 4F. I however have sworn an oath to defend our constitution much the same as our servicemen, against foreign invaders, and especially domestic enemies like Green Watch Dog.

I’ll let Wild Bill fill you in on his scale system and the meaning behind the E5.

Walter Goddard
Walter Goddard
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

Thanks @ Rev.. I’m responding to you up here, no reply link below… I’ll look forward to Wild Bill telling me about it.. The only similar designations I’ve heard of were for rank… Sorry to hear you suffer with bum knees, but you sure do well with the academics. I don’t know what my Grandfather’s Naval: Frogman rank was, but I could always count on a swimming lesson during visits. My Uncle’s rank in Germany, was an Army: Master Sgt.. He was spared from deployment to Nam. My Mom’s older brother was the Chief Cook on the Admiral’s ship of… Read more »

Heed the Call-up
Heed the Call-up
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

Rev, I was using the Intelligence source and information reliability scales, where “E” is Unreliable, lacks authenticity, trustworthiness, and competency. History of invalid information; and 5 is improbable, not logical, contradicted by other relevant information; “F” is reliability unknown, and 6 is difficult to say, the validity of the information can not be determined. That is why he is E5, a liar.

Wild bill
Wild bill
1 year ago

bit by dog. can not type out

Robert J. Lucas
Robert J. Lucas
1 year ago

@GWD,
Then I guess we better improve our mental health care system in all 50 states, in which it has been dismantled over the last 55 years.

The Revelator
The Revelator
1 year ago

J. Lucas

Awwww….. You mean Green Watch Dog will have to go back into the padded room for the men in the clean white coats? Say it isn’t so.. 🙂

Robert J. Lucas
Robert J. Lucas
1 year ago
Reply to  The Revelator

Yep!

Tim
Tim
1 year ago

It is utterly embarrassing that Flimsy Grahamnesty is a representative from my state. On behalf of all South Carolinians, I’m truly sorry!!!

John A Lane
John A Lane
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

Join us April 6th in Columbia as we try to get our legislators attention on passing Constitutional Carry…
https://www.facebook.com/events/300665287203999/?ti=as

Teddy Wm. Dover
Teddy Wm. Dover
1 year ago
Reply to  John A Lane

I agree totally! Just like our damn indian gov. taking our flag down because nigers was killed.

WDS
WDS
1 year ago
Reply to  Tim

I am sorry as well. I voted for this RINO hack the first time he ran and never since. If I hear one more cuckservative ramble on about how awesome Graham 2.0 is, I’ll puke all over them. Big deal, he had a couple of good soundbites at the Kavanaugh hearings. Remember, this POS gleefully voted to confirm Sotomayor and Kagan. He’s also an “F” rated Senator on Conservative Review’s report card. Then there’s the whole Gang of Eight amnesty circle jerk with friends McStain, Marco the fag, Schumer, Durbin etc.

Gene Ralno
Gene Ralno
1 year ago

Red flag laws in more than a dozen states remind me of the pitiful General Bernard Montgomery’s Operation Market Garden. Eisenhower allowed his foolishness deemed by most to have been doomed for lack of analysis and planning. It simply overreached. The analogy is red flag laws also reach too far. They ignore the need for psychiatric diagnoses from both the state and the defendant. Failure to require psychiatric reports relegates the decision to judges and law officers regarding whether the accused is unbalanced or not. Amateur diagnoses such as these also are foolish and doomed. It would be much more… Read more »

Walter Goddard
Walter Goddard
1 year ago

Bloomberg and et al, have been planning this “firestorm” for quite some time… Can you hear them laughing at us?
All the courts, and legislators, are being hit at the same time, having been queued for docket..

Let’s not all get rattled by it.
We can’t stop it YET, only fight and wait until the dust settles…

This is just the beginning. Now is the time to plan, work it out, and show restraint with patience.
Let’s not give them any more “ammo” against us!

They might even be recording the angry outbursts, to Red Fag us later!

Jimbo66
Jimbo66
1 year ago
Reply to  Walter Goddard

Oh my friend, you can count on them keeping track of us.

TheHolyCrow
TheHolyCrow
1 year ago
Reply to  Walter Goddard

Yep, Walter, that’s how the Khazarian Mafia operates. “By Deception, thou Shalt Do War” is their motto.