U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- While Democrat Gov. Ralph Northam and fellow anti-gunners in Virginia are getting lots of mileage out of the tragic mass shooting in Virginia Beach, the gun control crowd is mute in the wake of a self-defense shooting in Cincinnati early Thursday in which an armed mother of five used her legally-owned handgun to shoot an ex-boyfriend who was attempting to break into her home.
According to WLWT and WTAE, a prosecutor’s spokesperson “said the woman would not face any charges.”
Published reports say the unidentified mom had a protection order and a license to carry, but it was a remark from Prosecutor Joe Deters in a news release that almost certainly caused a case of massive lockjaw in the gun control community.
“Thank goodness she had a Concealed Carry Permit and was able to defend herself and her five children,” Deters said. “It is hard to imagine what might have happened to her or her children if she had not been able to protect herself and her family.”
It’s a pattern as predictable as winter snow in northern Maine. The gun prohibition lobby, which is fond of justifying every new extremist proposal by arguing, “If it saves just one life, it will be worthwhile,” typically becomes tongue-tied when an armed private citizen uses a firearm to protect their life, and possibly the lives of others, especially their children.
The only exception to the rule is if they can be sufficiently condescending in an effort to dissuade other citizens from fighting back under similar circumstances.
The loss-of-voice malady has hit billionaire-backed gun prohibitionists in Washington State several times in recent memory. When a man identified as Tim Day staged a string of carjackings almost one year ago in southwest Washington and was eventually shot dead by an armed citizen in a Walmart parking lot near the State Capitol in Olympia, that citizen was hailed as a hero by nearly everyone but the Seattle-based gun control crowd.
Day had shot one man whose car he was attempting to steal, and that’s when David George, a pastor and volunteer firefighter and medic stepped in. George, the pastor at an Assembly of God church in Oakville, has a concealed pistol license. He told a reporter, “I carry a firearm for the same reason that I carry a first aid bag, hoping never to have to use them, but always being prepared nonetheless.”
Three years ago near the Seattle suburb of Burien, another armed citizen fatally shot an ax-wielding attacker at a 7-11 convenience store where he stops daily for coffee. AmmoLand recently chatted with that armed citizen, who still wishes to remain anonymous. He said he is able to sleep fine and he continues living a normal life.
That life nearly ended when Steven Blacktongue tried first to decapitate him with a large hatchet, and then struck the store clerk. The armed citizen, who had a pair of Smith & Wesson .357 Magnums—one in each pocket of his jacket—drew one of the guns and fired three times at point-blank range. The incident unfolded in 12 seconds on a store security video.
Again, Seattle anti-gunners were thrust into silence when then-King County Sheriff’s Sgt. Cindi West told reporters, “Fortunately, because of this customer with his weapon, this could have been a lot worse. The clerk could be the one laying there dead on the floor right now.”
Last September in the Chicago suburb of Cicero, an armed citizen intervened when an attempted traffic stop turned into something more dangerous. The driver opened fire and wounded Officer Luis Duarte, and that’s when the legally-armed citizen opened fire with his own gun.
The Chicago Tribune reported at the time that Cicero Police Supt. Jerry Chlada, Jr. acknowledged, “We were lucky enough to have a citizen on the street there who is a conceal carry holder, and he engaged in gunfire with the suspect.”
Cicero Town President Larry Dominick told reporters, “I want to applaud the citizen, a civilian, who risked his life to help in apprehending this armed suspect.”
In this case, a local gun control advocate did speak out. Colleen Daley, executive director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, was quoted by the Tribune.
“This situation worked out OK, but what if it hadn’t?” she reportedly said. “It easily could have gone the other way. To sit here and say that concealed carry is the answer to all of our gun violence problems, or more, that armed people are going to keep us safer, that’s not true.”
That might be a debate she should have with patrons of an Oklahoma City restaurant where a man identified as Alexander Tilghman, 28, opened fire from outside the building in May 2018. But it was his bad luck that not one but two armed citizens who did not know one another grabbed their guns and shot Tilghman fatally. The would-be killer did wound three people inside Louie’s Grill & Bar before his rampage ended abruptly.
Armed citizens Carlos Nazario and Bryan Wittle were there to intervene, and an Oklahoma police captain was quoted by CNN observing, “These guys were protecting somebody else’s life. You can say they are heroes.”
Except, you can’t say that if you’re a gun prohibitionist. At least, they haven’t so far.
Workman is co-author of “America Fights Back – Armed Self-Defense In A Violent Age” with Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
About Dave Workman
Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.
Here’s the quote again from your anti-gunner: “This situation worked out OK, but what if it hadn’t?” she reportedly said. “It easily could have gone the other way. To sit here and say that concealed carry is the answer to all of our gun violence problems, or more, that armed people are going to keep us safer, that’s not true.” Let’s stipulate for a moment that she has a point. In fact, an armed citizen can miss the bad guy and inflict further injury. I’m not aware of any time this has occurred, but let’s humor her. So, because we… Read more »
I do self defense courses and have my belts because of what happend you were not wrong
“She” obviously has a strong case of what the shrinks call “cognitive dissonance”. C.D. is where a person gets a severe headache when the facts collide with what they think reality should be. And it does have a tendency to tie up a persons tongue, and cause them to stammer a lot. Trying to get any words out usually ends up making them sound like Jackie Gleason going , “huummaa, huummaa, huummaa” all day long, so they just shut up totally.
Unfortunately the goal is not crime reduction, it is threat to politician reduction.
Therefore the drumbeat will continue until the 2nd revolution.
This is clearly a blame the VICTIM mentallity! Could you imagine, the same Woman standing up saying that another Woman should not have worn a dress, put on make up, had her hair and nails done, drank a glass of wine and danced and NOT HAVE EXPECTED TO BE RAPPED? Of course you wouldn’t, but that is exactly what she is doing in this situation. She is blaming the CCW PERMIT Holder for something that might occur. By the way, Law Enforcement Officers run the very same risk when they place their fingers on the trigger and squeeze. You have… Read more »
Why the mention that it was good thing that she had a concealed carry permit? While that is good in providing training on how to use a gun it has no bearing on this case. She was in her home defending herself and family from an unwanted intruder. Last I checked there is no requirement for concealed carry inside your own home. Is there some law requiring a CCP even in your own home in Cincinnati?
Maybe, the thought was that a ccp lended credibility to the justifiable shooting. CCP, LTC, CHL’s generally have some objectivity in their issue and perhaps the thought was that this gal was competent to do the shoot-the-badguy thing.
Here in Texas, we have to take a class and “demonstrate proficiency” with a handgun to get our licenses.
Maybe the cop was promoting the process?
What about the 22 Million plus Combat Arms Trained Veterans? Do you think perhaps we might be professionally trained in these matters without having to demonstrator get a CCW, CHL or other type of, “permit”?
The fact that people think at CHL or CWP is required to carry a firearm is hilarious. We have natural born human rights guaranteed by our constitution’s Bill of Rights and that is THE ONLY cave that is necessary.
When will gun owners in America stop being cowards and bans together, march on Washington and TELL the government what will be, what won’t be and what will always be? Remind them that WE ARE THEIR BOSSES AND THEY ARE OUR EMPLOYEES!!
There is very little documentation, data and actual honest facts to support the anti-gun hysteria sweeping the nation. It takes these unfortunate examples of someone going berserk with a firearm, and through a well-funded propaganda machine, turns an incident into a trend, thereby instilling panic in those who don’t know enough to separate any truth from the fabrications. All it takes are some crafty propagandists and some gullible, uninformed and often just plain ignorant people to perpetuate these myths behind gun “control”. Add crowd hysteria, the formula is complete. . It is truly one of the most graphic lessons of… Read more »
The rise in anti-gun rhetoric is proportional to the rise in socialist doctrine because the marxist’s know you must disarm the citizen before implementing total government control. Interestingly the libocrites us the mantra “if it saves one life” while screaming about a womans right to murder a baby. 60 million innocent lives lost to abortion.
On the local news, last night, they had a feature article where they interviewed a black woman who had jointed the local chapter of Mommies against guns because she had two sons killed. One was killed in a knife attack and the other was shot several years later. The mayor of Knoxville was standing with the mommies with a big smile on her face. My thoughts were that something else besides gun violence caused these deaths. Maybe gang affiliation or just hanging with the wrong crowd. Anyway, there has to be some parental responsibility along the way rather than join… Read more »
Some one is full of crap, I just saw a doc on Normandy last week, thousands were killed so you could bash the 2nd amendment. Are you so ignorant that you can’t see that the muselems don’t want us to have weapons to protect your sorry ass
@David O, With all due respect, Tcat is no Second Amendment basher. Perhaps his writing is less than perfectly clear, but we all do that from time to time.
Although, I wish we, all, would not use the made up term “gun violence”. Is there baseball bat violence, delivery truck violence, framing hammer violence? Maybe Cain and Able had rock violence.
Why is it that the Socialist Democrats want all of these restrictions on gun owners just to save a life but think nothing of killing an infant in the womb right up to the day of delivery
This comparison to the invasion of France in WWII is specious at best. Without the suicides and gang violence endemic in democrat run big cities the United States’ gun death toll is near the bottom of the “gun death” statistics. It is interesting that those municipalities which disarm their citizens have the highest violent crime rates. One could suspect that this is deliberate… Remember, these are the same people that count shootings by drug dealers anywhere near a school, to be a school attack, and gang members up to the age of 25 as “children”. Never take what they say… Read more »
Why do we have to wade through all of the commentary? You are commenting to the choir.
Tell us the stories so we can find them rather than hiding them in your blather.
The author is not the story. The people whose lives were saved are the story.
Idadho: Well, I certainly wasn’t trying to be the story here.
In any event, thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.
Why can people shoot their mouths off with the 1st amendment with out a permit. But I have to have a permit under the 2nd amendment to carry. Are all the amendments not equal?
The 1st Amendment only applies to the politically correct. Anyone else is a bigot, homophobe, misogynist, etc..
Yes, It’s all about me. And I’m proudly stating: I’m also: 1) Islamofob, 2) Communistofob, 3) NAZI -fob, 4) facistofob,etc.
The “phobe” appellation to any subject implies fear, not the reasoned apprehension and disgust for a group, religion, or economic/political movement with a history of mass murder.
The “phobe” designation is a totally invented term by those who seek to silence all who would ask questions about the ideology, methods, and goals.
I believe right here in Arizona is a perfect example of what helps get rid of gun crimes. Some years ago the Phoenix valley (Arizona being a border state) was becoming the carjack and kidnap capital of America. The state government saw what was happening and realized something had to be done. The Arizona government, unlike the national government, took action and passed constitutional carry (no permit required) and the governor signed it into law. Almost immediately crime, all crime, started down. It has gone down nearly every year since. Someday maybe these gun grabbers may realize the only thing… Read more »
Why are the links missing now to share this stuff on social media?
Brad: Dave Workman here. I just tried the links in the story and they work fine for me.
Thanks very much for reading!
Good people with guns, stopping bad people (usually with guns), falls outside the Libtard narrative that all guns (except those owned by the Government or them) are baaaaaadddddd. So much easier to ignore than to admit the very real possibility that they’re wrong.
The have a pride problem and could not possibly admit they were wrong.
When you have these a-holes say their afraid of armed police in a suckbucks or McDonalds! How can we expect them to understand the “good guy” example? The Idiotic snowflakes are beyond help!
No one has a cure all answer for our criminal gun violence problem, But if we start executing the people committing these crimes.it will eliminate part of the problem. When you have a murder where there is no doubt who committed it, execute them. The know it all’s in this country say the death penalty is not a deterrent to crime, BULLSHIT. That murderer will not commit another one. And in the long run you make a few mistakes. The cost of freedom is expensive! For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.YOU ARE FREE TO MAKE WHATEVER… Read more »
I think there should be a trial first and then hang them!Judge Roy Bean, For the Supreme Court!
We know that gun control is not the same thing as Criminal Control.
No law(s) past, present or future will sop an individual who wants to kill you.
I’m jim from north carolina once a sheriff’s deputy I look at gun control this way think about it back in the 1800s they never was a mass shooting in a town because almost everyone was armed
Yes Sir, plus the rifle was over the fireplace and the shotgun was by the front door hinge side at the ready.
@jh45gun, The James and Younger gang were the most skilled, armed and notorious robbers of their day. They were the best of the best at swoop and hurrah. They found out the power of an armed citizenry (Disorganized armed citizenry, but armed citizenry never-the-less.)
I am q victime and went through a lot and thing really happend shes not to blame neither was I one still continues cyber he became q man 8n my life bethany Cameron from Gloucester mass police say they cant help me at all I’ve been harmed too many time he went a DVShelter and hung out with the women wow sicko judge said time for antitdote
I. Old use help bad I cant go to sleep my cyber gets in gun offi had one I wish I crawled and later was all around me red
The thing is, what seems to be missed in the myriad of articles on guns and gun control, is that the objection of the gun grabbers doesn’t actually have anything to do with gun safety or the safety of the public. Those are simply things they say and appear to be particularly useful against the illiterate masses during so-called mass shootings. The real object of gun control is civilian disarmament to prevent any Interruption of their so-called Progressive agenda. They fear armed Rebellion, or in other words of Civil War that will rob them of the power they have in… Read more »
Unfortunately I can’t edit this from above, but I missed this from my voice dictation. It is not marietta but myriad.
@samadams, I concur. How can government claim that gun control expresses their interest in public safety, and then claim that they have no duty to come to the aid of citizens when they 911 for police help?
A note of caution with a militia group of even as few as 25, your group will be infiltrated or members turned for money.
The Fat Boy Institute brags that they have infiltrated every militia group in the country. Not moslem group. Not organized crime group. Not smuggling group. Not corrupt bureaucrat group. Militia group.
The woman in Ohio had a protection order against the ex-boyfriend. How much good did that do? Let’s disarm the public so we cannot defend ourselves. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy. I think we, the pro gun movement has it all wrong. We need permits? Hell with that I want an MG42 with two extra barrels and a half a mile of belt! Better yet an A10 warthog with the full package.
When the Civil War comes and it is coming, we will confiscate those from Air Guard and Army National Guard units. After the restoration of the public all these things will become legal for anyone to own as they should.
The Air National Guard and Army National Guard may have something to say about that. This is an incredibly dumb thing to put on social media. So the next robbery of an armory should we just have the FBI pay you a visit? Mostly fools talk about the “coming civil war.” Posting in on social media is beyond foolish.
@Armed, They have it all backwards. Conservatives must not rebel. Things are going our way. And in 2020, things are going to go even more our way!
Nobody has the logistics to rebel against the Federal government. So we declare the libtard states in rebellion; nationalize the USANG; and we conservatives get to provide “support” to our beloved troops and help “clean up”.
The question remaining is what is the best way to deal with guns in the wrong hands. I’m not sure if more guns is the answer. If not more guns than what alternative ideas are workable?
How about bringing back the death penalty for all cases of murder. Televised 72 hours after sentencing.
To those who say that the death penalty is not a deterrent: WRONG!! The convicted perpetrator is permanently deterred. Might make others think twice.
You’re not thinking correctly. It is an absolutely impossible task keep Firearms out of the hands of bad guys. And every attempt at doing so has only ever impacted law abiding by restricting rights that are supposed to be ” shall not be infringed.” So in addition to violating the Second Amendment, gun control laws are also in violation of Article 1 Section 9 Clause 3 and Article 1 Section 10 of the United States Constitution forbidding the passing of any bill of attainder. A bill of attainder is any rip, decree or law that deprives a person or group… Read more »
If you look at ALL mass shootings they have one. (1) thing in common. They happen in GUN FREE ZONES , AKA FREE FIRE ZONES. There’s no one to stop them. They don’t happen at police stations, hunting clubs, private or public shooting ranges, gun stores. They happen in schools, theaters, office buildings, churches. FREE RIRE ZONES. These animals want to kill people and become infamous not dead for nothing. In most of these shootings School Teachers, Fellow workers, Fellow church members die from being a human shield. For Gods sake give them something to fight with. I have friends… Read more »
I am a retired law enforcement officer and an attorney with over twenty years of trial practice. I can tell you from experience that police usually cannot answer an emergency call in a shooting incident quickly enough. So, as you say, when seconds count, police are minutes away. Thus, it is imperative for everyone’s personal safety that they have firearms close at hand and know how to use them safely and competently.
There is long standing proof that to stop a bad guy with a gun ya need to have a good guy with a gun. If ya want to wait the eternal minutes (or hours) before the authorities show up, that’s up to you. As for me, I carry a handgun for the same reason I have fire extinguishers: It’s better to have and not need than to need and not have.
Research also documents the truth that easing concealed carry laws reduces criminal activity. Maybe criminals fear armed citizens more than the “criminal” justice system?
Sir Winston Churchill said:
A gentleman will seldom if ever need a gun. But if he needs one he will need one very badly.
I have a couple of books of Winston Churchill quotes, and I cannot find this one anywhere. I would really like to be able to use that as one of his quotes, but I won’t do so without knowing when and where he said it.
Where did you learn this is a Churchill quote? Can you tell me anything about the context of it?
Thanks….
Oh grow the hell up..! Who the hell cares if he made that quote or not. The content remains true..! You can lay helpless on the floor and take a bag guys bullet if you like. Not this guy..!
Steve, have you read this one?
We must never cease to proclaim in fearless tones the great principles of freedom and the rights of man which are the joint inheritance of the English-speaking world and which through Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, the Habeas Corpus, trial by jury, and the English common law find their most famous expression in the American Declaration of Independence.
Steve, I couldn’t find an attribution of that in Internet searches, either, but reading numerous quotes of his, I could see where he might have had a similar sentiment. And whether or not it is documented that he said it, and even removing his attribution, the statement still holds true.
Research the recent criminal history of Richmond Va. They had a violent crime problem, with lots of so called “gun violence” until they instituted a program to target the criminals. (Imagine that!) There was a name given to this program but I can’t recall what they called it. “Operation” something, no doubt, and the NRA contributed to, and helped set it up, but the basic idea was to actually ENFORCE firearms laws, instead of using them to plea bargain a crime. IOW, if someone was convicted of a crime using a firearm, not only did they get sentenced for the… Read more »
I am continually working on articulating my position that Gun Laws are a feudal attempt to do more of the same but expecting different results. If “Gun-Free Zones” were outlawed instead of guns being outlawed we would have a much safer society. If 15 to 20% of the population were Licensed CCW and did in fact carry, there would be fewer “mass shootings” and in turn fewer victims.
I’m sorry, but why the need for license? The 2nd Amendment forbids any regulation on the keeping and bearing of Arms by government, period.
I agree that there should not be a requirement for a license to carry, but that is the current state in the majority of jurisdictions in the country right now. However, that should not prevent law abiding citizens from carrying concealed. Just be discreet. If you do need to deploy your firearm, do so and then make like a tree, and leave. As @D..Pro2A said, it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Phil in TX
Colleen Daley is correct in that armed population wouldn’t keep everybody safe, given the opportunity to protect the likes of her, I’d save my ammo.
Nice article! And it’s based on the realities of life, instead of just wishful thinking
I love it when person with a gun takes out a bad person who wants to harm them. When a bad guy is taken out, you can be sure they will never make another person a victim ever again.
If more people in America were armed, we would have a more polite society.
I cling to Faith,Family,Firearms, and the Cleveland Indians !!!
Bravo! Go BoSox.
Support your favorite team! Go Rangers and Astros!
Phil in TX
New York and Long Island have registered handgun owners but not allowed conceal carry but many people do. Many of us have witnessed armed robberies and armed carjackings going down and other dangerous crime. But do not take action because we’re not supposed have the weapon on us. So look the other way if it does not directly concern me and my loved ones. They were many shoot the bad guy and get out of there and get out of there. Look what happened to Bernard Guess in NY he opened up to a whole Lotta legal problems for shooting… Read more »
It’s kind of a pity that the muggers and carjackers don’t go after the politicians. Oh… wait… I forgot: they’ve all got armed bodyguards to protect THEM.
Isn’t it amazing that the members of the politburo don’t have to follow the same rules as we ‘citizens’ have to follow ??
They work less, are paid more, and have better health insurance then we could ever have.
It is just like the commies of the ussr had.
You’ve noticed that too?
The demoncrats are putting these psychos out there to do these mass shootings only to gain presidency again look at past of all demoncrats just look start from bill clinton go up then you see what the hell is wrong with this country has nothing to do with guns just idiots point blank
Luckily, Oklahoma is a very gun-friendly state. Happily, our local media outlets are reasonably fair in reporting firearms-related stories. I live 2 miles from the location of that Oklahoma City shooting (a restaurant on the eastern shore of Lake Hefner). That day, my wife and I had just driven into the restaurant’s parking lot and had a clear view of the event, barely 35 yards away. Although we were only spectators, we both took long moments to get our breath, and allow our adrenalin levels/heartbeat rates to return to something manageable. We can laugh about it now, but at the… Read more »
I live in West central Florida and carry a gun almost everywhere.
“An armed society is a polite society manners are good when one may have to back up his actions with his life.”
Robert A. Heinlein From Beyond This Horizon 1942
You are so right! Carry every where, I do not recognize Gun Free Zones.
Don’t ask, don’t tell. Who is to know unless you have cause to use your weapon, and in that situation, would anyone complain?
I would take exception to your statement about the media outlets (TV stations) in Oklahoma being “fair” dealing with stories involving firearms. I have lived here for 43 years and Channel 4 in OKC has always been anti-gun in their reporting. Channel 9 to a lessor extent and does anybody really watch 5 or 25? I don’t know about Channel 6 or any other Tulsa stations. Channel 4 has moderated their bias only because the population has become more gun friendly. That and the fact that Linda Cavanaugh retired a number of years ago.