VA Supreme Court Ignores Constitution, Keeps Gun Owners Disarmed at Lobby Day

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Springfield, VA — -(AmmoLand.com)- The Virginia Supreme Court has denied efforts by Gun Owners of America (GOA) and the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) to overturn Governor Ralph Northam’s Lobby Day Gun Ban.

“Governor Northam issued an illegal order on Wednesday, banning guns on the Capitol grounds — thus preventing law-abiding citizens from carrying firearms at Lobby Day this coming Monday,” Erich Pratt, Senior Vice President of GOA said.

“Sadly, the Virginia’s Supreme Court has decided to ignore the US and Virginia Constitutions, as well as Virginia law, and uphold Northam’s ban.”

“Ironically, this outcome will only further embolden Second Amendment supporters to be even louder for their rights,” Pratt concluded. “Gun owners in the Commonwealth will continue to challenge Gov. Northam’s unconstitutional gun control measures at every turn.”


Gun Owners of America GOA logoGun Owners of America spokespeople are available for interviews. Gun Owners of America is a nonprofit lobbying organization dedicated to protecting the right to keep and bear arms without compromise. GOA represents over two million members and activists. For more information, visit GOA’s Press Center.

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Arizona

Shocking that activist judges approve unconstitutional gun bans be applied to Americans that are fighting against unconstitutional gun bans!

Time to withdraw consent to be governed…

Will Flatt

This is why we’re headed for civil war. Us against the commiecrat statist Left.

Laddyboy

@WF: I understand and I agree with your sentiments. I HOPE and PRAY this action does not take place. IF it does let the TYRANTS be the, CONFIRMED, ones who BEGIN the lead-fest. This is the only thing I ask for.
The police have ALREADY assassinated an elderly man in Montgomery County Maryland while “serving” one of the “red-flag-law / EROP” confiscation orders issued by an upset family member. (No weapons were involved in the original disagreement.)

Courageous Lion - Hear Me Roar - Jus Meum Tuebor

I did that about 35 years ago. I’m a bona fide armed run away slave.

Stripeseven

The Founding Fathers framed the U.S. Constitution so as to protect Americans from the tyranny of democracy and to protect individual liberty. The Supreme Law of the Land is the Constitution as it is written. You don’t vote on, charge a fee for, or give permission to law abiding citizens to exercise Constitutional rights.

Rowboat

It was about a year or so ago that the citizens of West Virginia rode their Supreme Court justices out of town on a rail for graft and corruption. Seems like they got reappointed to the Virginia SC.
If WV can do it, so can we Virginia!!!!
Sic Semper Tyranus .

Laddyboy

I as an American who supports the American Constitution AS IT IS WRITTEN along with the 10 Amendments, I am tired of the tyrannical government departments being used in the name game. I WANT to know WHO the names of these TYRANTS ARE when these Articles are written. We the People deserve the RIGHT to KNOW the NAMES of the TRAITORS – – BEHIND the CURTAIN!!!!!

Truth

Georgy-Boy $0r0$ is one of them along with Bloomberg et al….

Deusvult

This doesn’t change anything..We will still show up armed…See you Monday!

Laddyboy

@D.; OH YEA! Show up with your weapon. Be arrested. Be charged, even though it is “under the color of law”. Lose your RIGHT to even OWN a weapon. I do understand your FEELINGS, however, losing my RIGHT is not acceptable.

Deusvult

As long as we are not on the Capitol grounds, we are fine. It’s the Capitol grounds that are off limits to weapons. Do you get around much? Read any VCDL bulletins? Virginia resident?

Wild Bill

@Laddy, you correctly describe the risk portion of the equation. The potential reward is huge pursuant to 18 USC 1983 … but you have to let them arrest you! So each must decide for themselves what it is going to be. Maybe finding a law firm to plan the case in advance would be beneficial.
I am up clicking each of you for your contributions to this important conversation.

Capn Dad

A 100,000 arrests??? Blue on Blue? That would make a great movie. I’ll make popcorn.

Charlie Foxtrot

@Laddyboy, you clearly have no clue! What you state is COMPLETELY false!

The area for which the gun ban has been enacted is fenced off and access is via a single entrance with metal detectors. All protestors that come with their firearms will certainly not walk though those metal detectors and stay right outside the fenced off area, where it is legal to carry.

Stop making up stuff!!! We just have too many Internet keyboard commandos, like you, that just make up stuff and possess ZERO actual knowledge.

Mark 2nd

Sooo Laddy, you would NOT arm yourself to fight for your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS enshrined in the Constitution because you MIGHT lose said RIGHTS by fighting an illegal and corrupt “government”; But, you WOULD do nothing to defend your RIGHTS thereby CERTAINLY losing those RIGHTS when said illegal, unconstitutional ” government” gains absolute control because you and others like you are too afraid to make a stand. That “reasoning” is totally illogical. If you fight you MIGHT lose your rights (but only if the commies win). If you and others like you don’t fight you will CERTAINLY lose ALL your… Read more »

RJL

Socialism>Communism>Gun Control=Disarmament=Extermination… The Impoverished Deadly Agenda…As history has proven…. “Seemingly Utopian pacifists are free to profess their love of a weapon-free world, but they must start by disarming the evil, criminal and tyrannical. Disarming the public is a vent for their twisted fear and hatred, a grotesque affront to freedom, and unacceptable. Disarming an innocent person is an act of violence.” “Guns save lives. Guns stop crime. Guns are why America is still free.” Anti-constitutionalism sense of morality is situational, based on incident and emotion, instead of rooted in God’s word and law. Anti-constitutionalism stands for nothing. The Anti-Constitutionalists’ situation… Read more »

Mike Crognale

Brilliant SIR!!!! Positively brilliant. With your permission, I would like to copy and post this to my Facebook page, full attribution of course.

tetejaun

In New Jersey, the State Police STILL follow communist Gov. Florio’s orders to stop & search all out-of-state vehicles towing a cargo trailer. They find an AR or AK or magazines over 10 rounds, then seize everything. They, then, wait to arrest the serviceman as he returns home from overseas service. Veterans are languishing in New Jersey prisons, now.
That rat, Chris Christie, has NEVER rescinded that order.
You will KNOW the enemy by their actions.

BigJim

9/11/2001 think about it. Why would you comply with these traitors?

Razorback

Bloomberg’s puppet Government

Ryben Flynn

And what are they going to do if 100,00 people show up armed?

Capn Dad

@Ryben Flynn….There ya go! You just posted the best response to the criminal government in Virginia. Let’s see if Virginia walks the walk as well as talks the talk!

Core

Governor Northam has officially violated Article VI within the US Constitution: Supreme Law. He may now be removed from office.

Ryben Flynn

That is on Treaties and religious tests to hold office, and also that the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land.
However, The Governor and the Court have both violated
18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy against rights | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
And
18 U.S. Code § 242 – Deprivation of rights under color of law | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

Wild Bill

@RF, but the basis for a money making civil suit against the State of Deep Pockets Virginia is at 18 USC 1983. Section 1983 imposes liability upon every person who subjects a person to a deprivation of a federally protected right “under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom or usage of any state or territory.

Truth

If this is true, how will he be removed and who is going to carry this out?

24and7

Piss on the governor and the courts..everyone show up armed!!…ALL 130,000 STRONG….they will not do shit but cry..”WE WILL NOT COMPLY?”..WELL THEN, SHOW THEM!

jack mac

24and7; Yes, piss on the governor and courts, but do not show up armed this time; Least not within the restricted boundaries. Our public servants have planned for months for what the VCDL has only hours to change their plan. I am in no position to advise the planners of the VCDL on the turn of events. All citizens willing to defend their lives and liberty should now prepare for a general call to arms, nation wide. Well regulated should include more powerfully penetrating ammo than .223. Bear in mind that most of the enforcers hired by public servants will… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

We will know by dark Monday it the tree that Jefferson was talking about is due it’s refreshment. Be prepared. NM, Co, CA, WA are all in. I will stand my ground.

Arm up, carry on.

OldJarhead03

Why would anyone be surprised?
The win-at-all-costs mentality is very telling. “Legal” is whatever they say it is.
If they will openly conspire against a guy who is President, and a billionaire to boot, what will they be willing to do to an average citizen? Anything and everything.

Morrigan

With all the current fascination with recall and impeachment I wonder how long the citizens of Virginia are going to keep tolerating “Governor Blackface” and his blatant putsch against the
Constitutional right guaranteed under the 2nd Amendment. Surely his actions on this and other issues clearly prove his removal and replacement are justified.

JPM

You gotta wonder how many of those hacks on the Virginia Supreme Court are Democrats.

Wild Bill

@JPM, There should not be any. Judges are supposed to unbiased in every way. No passion, no prejudice, no party!
A hack is a hack, no matter which party.

Will Flatt

THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO LOBBY FOR. Tyrant Northam’s Politburo of commiecrats have their ears closed to the overwhelming will of the people in over 90 of the 95 counties there. There is NO LOBBYING THAT CAN BE DONE! PATRIOTS SHOULD REFUSE TO DISARM AND SHOULD SHOW UP ARMED TO THE TEETH AND STAND AT THE FENCE LINE IN MUTE PROTEST!! Yes, no one goes inside the fence line and the only one to do that should be VCDL’s Philip Van Cleave, to deliver a simple message: WE WILL NOT DISARM AND WE WILL NOT COMPLY. The antigun Left’s opinion… Read more »

Will Flatt

All the tools for 4GW will be available and “in play”. That armored stuff uses engines. Engines that are susceptible to jellied fuel. Viewing ports can be blacked out with spray paint, or if one needs a stand-off capability, paintball guns work well too.

Bottom line, We The People hold all the cards & the commiecrats have jack squat.

Will Flatt

They intend to play by Waco rules. We will play by Nuremberg rules!!

Charlie Foxtrot

@wjd Flatt, I fully agree with that strategy.

Buster

@USA I doubt the Patriots will be deterred. All this type equipment does is shorten the fuse.

Will Flatt

Black tip M2AP works even better. And it is still rather plentiful.

Rowboat

Another wonderment is, how are the Demoncrats able to pull a Liberal sympathic judge out of their ass, on a moment’s notice to stymie ANY and All executive orders, even the Presidents, when they disagree with it . It also seems that the VCDL and GOA,aren’t aware of what “judge shopping “ is, while the Democrats have them on speed dial !

Laddyboy

And these “freekin’ judges” happen to be DemoNAZIS – – right?!?!?!?!

Wild Bill

@Laddy, Had there been a consecutive, stream of pro-Second amendment governors for many decades, there would have, also, been a stream of pro-Second amendment Va. state supreme court, appellate court, and trial court judges.
Pro second amendment voters must, simply, get off their big fat settees.

Buster

The Patriots in Virginia will very likely be at war come Monday. If shooting starts, it will be Patriots against law enforcement. There are no “innocents” in war – only friend or foe. Patriots are not governed or even concerned about rules of engagement, and I can promise you two things: 1) Patriots will not surrender or quit and 2) we won’t fight fair. The actions of law enforcement in Virginia will jeopardize the health and well being of LEO’s across the nation. LE in Virginia better think long and hard about what they are starting. LEO’s in Virginia better… Read more »

tetejaun

KKK Northam has been scaring people so his paid terrorists and FBI assassins will stir things up and the murders will start. They will plant guns on their targets.
A POSSIBLE scenario.

NEVER underestimate the enemy.

Buster

@tetejuan “murders” would imply that there are innocent people being killed. This is not how war works. There were no “innocents” killed at Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, or any of the other places that felt our heat.

I’m certain the Patriots will do their best to determine who is friend or foe, but ultimately, it will be Patriots vs law enforcement. And it won’t just be law enforcement – it will be their children, grand-children, parents, goats, chickens – all of it. War is Hell.

tsimpson

“…I still get to vote!”

tetejaun

As the communist democrats get more and more bold, we will HAVE to vote with lead, sooner or later.
They are communists and they will not stop until they win or they assume room temperature.
My Garand was made in May 1942, I was born May 1952. Just too cool.

jack mac

I need to determine the what commercial rounds are safe to use in Garands. Any suggestions?

MICHAEL J

This reveals how deep the corruption goes when you can buy judges who like their owners ignore
the written laws they lied to preserve, protect and defend. We the people must remove, procecute and incarcerate every lying treasonous politician and bureaucrat who every swore an oath to this country. But how do we carry that out?

willyd

This is really the bigger problem, we can’t even act on this because the judges are almost all bought off and if you can’t get the courts to hold to the Constitution and their oath that they took how is this going to be handled? Even if it gets to the Supreme court they move soooooo slow like most of their ages, it can take years to even be heard, or even if then, they throw it back at the lower court and then it stands!!!!!

Razorback

Virginia…Bloomberg’s very own bought & paid for State ?

Mark 2nd

This is it people. This is the beginning of the real, shooting war. We fight now or forever lose our freedom. This is how it has to be. There is absolutely no other recourse. The “laws” Gov. Blackface is imposing are totally unconstitutional and are paving the way for a coup of the rightful government, US, We The People. Go armed and don’t back down, no matter what. It had to come to this point. The communists will never stop in their quest for absolute power, so we must never stop in our quest for FREEDOM. We must not fire… Read more »

Buster

@USA If I survive the New Mexico war, I’ll come up and help you with Colorado.

Mark 2nd

Took a little too long to answer but no, real Americans aren’t going to beg a “master”. It’s beginning to look like there may be enough real Americans to turn the tide of communism in our nation. I’m glad people like you and others posting here are out there ready and willing to fight. We won’t all make it through this but if we preserve freedom it was worth it. Hope to see you guys, on this side or the other.

Finnky

@Mike – Judges made the right ruling. Regardless of how they feel, they can only rule based on the case and evidence provided. Individual casa Es MUST be decided individually rather than upon speculation on possible wider ramifications. For whatever reason, judges were provided incomplete information – insufficient for them to override the lower court. Doubt there are further legal venues available given time, so must make the most of what is. VCDL still has a strong hand for Monday’s lobby day. Regardless of Monday’s results, court fights and political campaigning will continue. This is endless bickering, not a war.… Read more »

Ansel Hazen

Does anyone remember 10/11/2013 T2SDA?

https://knuckledraggin.com/2013/10/t2sda/

Littlejohn1411

I couldn’t find anything that actually said the outcome of the truckers revolt, AH do you have a link to what the outcome was? I don’t remember this due to being in the hospital the last half of 2013 and two months of 2014.

Ansel Hazen

I don’t know myself either but can tell you I had the sign on my vehicle up here in Maine and got a fair number of thumbs up from truckers when I was out on 95.

Wild Bill

AH, That is a brilliant idea! We could up date it: Old beater vehicles abandoned at strategic points on the belt way, the George Washington bridge, and I street; old beater vehicles abandoned on the train tracks from Boston to Washington; and old beater vehicles deposited on the route from northern VA would bring the Dist. of Corruption its knees, while the take over took place!
Ansel, you are a chaos and CF creating genius!

Ansel Hazen

Jam the area up before Monday so Gov Blackface’s goons can’t even get to work. Start wherever Northam lives then jam up the capitol area and keep it spreading outward. 5000+ cars just parked in the middle of every street in Richmond sends an unmistakable message. Maybe a little “we will not comply” flag on the antenna and everyone just go sit at a local watering hole for the day. No violence and yet Coonman gets a hint of what could be.

Wild Bill

@AH, I think that you have a future career on the revolutionary G-3 staff!

Ansel Hazen

I accept. 🙂

Ansel Hazen

Van Cleave and Pratt should be on the phone to all the major trucking companies dispatch offices in VA requesting help. It won’t take many tractor trailer trucks parked strategically to grid lock Richmond.

Greg K

Article I. Bill of Rights Section 1. Equality and rights of men That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety. Section 2. People the source of power That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people, that magistrates are their trustees and servants, and at all times amenable… Read more »

Wild Bill

What document are you reprinting here?

Greg K

Email from VCDL, is it not coming through?

Greg K

Do you mean the Virginia State Bill of Rights? Surely you knew what it was, right Bill?

Wild Bill

@gk, The burden is on the writer to be clear, and that includes references to replicated material.

Greg K

Good Call

jmb1911

TO VDCL and GOA
Wishing you the best tomorrow and that your organizations are victorious in getting this reversed or struck down as unconstitutional. I read where a lawmaker will be hiding in a saferoom tomorrow. Wonder what that lawmaker is scared of. I live NJ , a notorious anti 2A state. Fight the good fight and win!!!!!!!!!!!!! Northam and company need to be recalled or charged criminally with any applicable laws and imprisoned for a long time. Same for all the other anti 2A groups and pols. They are nothing but SUBVERSIVES!!!!

Buster

The scouts to take the arrows. You Virginia Patriots are being called upon to be the scouts. It’s your job (and duty) to take the beach and route the enemy and at any cost – failure is not an option.

Just as using the atomic bomb ultimately saved many lives, the Patriots of Virginia must make a strong and unforgettable impression. Libtards and law enforcement need to look back on tomorrow and say to themselves “we underestimated the Patriots, and it is impossible to defeat them”.

God’s speed, my brothers. All eyes are upon you.

Will Flatt

BREAKING NEWS SATURDAY NIGHT – VA pro-2A State Senator warns,
WE ARE BEING SET UP!!!

https://www.westernjournal.com/va-state-senator-goes-public-72-hours-rally-set/

Buster

@WF I say bring it.

Will Flatt

Guns for self-defense, but CAMERAS FOR CREATING A BODY OF EVIDENCE AGAINST THE CRIMINALS AND THEIR TYRANT HANDLERS!!

tetejaun

Hey, USA….who is the coward that keeps down voting you but never comments?
Appears to be the same pussy that does it to me. Probably running away, crying.

Mike Crognale

They denied it because the VDCL lawyers made a critical and ROOKIE mistake. They failed to send over the supporting documents! How stupid do you have to be to forget that something so critical. Hell, I’m not even a lawyer but I know that you don’t file the plea unless you have all the paperwork in order. VA Supremes had NO Choice!

Greg K

Interesting, I read the filing, and it cited all the Virginia state statutes and State, as well as, Federal Constitution applications. What documentation did the Supremes say was missing? Surely they have all the Virginia Statutes and both Constitutions close at hand, don’t they?

Greg K

Mike, I just dug into this thing a little. Here’s the genesis. Wed. at 1;30pm Northam declared the Emergency. Thurs. the 16th, the circuit court heard the case. Unknown, when it was decided, but on the same day The temp injunction was filed with the State Supreme Court. It appears the first filing may have been rejected for word count. They filed again Fri. the 17th and the case was heard and dismissed due to “No Transcript from circuit court hearing.” There is a very good chance the lawyers did attempt to get the transcript sent to the Supreme Court,… Read more »

Mack

The Virginia Supreme Court is not to blame for this. It’s wrong for GOA to blame the court. This has the Court’s order: “https://twitter.com/CamThompsonCBS6/status/1218405763137314816″ As the WaPo article points out, the lawyers made some serious mistakes: ” https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/virginia-supreme-court-upholds-northams-temporary-ban-on-weapons-on-capitol-grounds/2020/01/17/e64d7a0e-393c-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html” === In refusing to overturn the ban, the Supreme Court faulted the pro-gun lawyers for failing to include enough information to merit taking action. They noted that the lawyers had alternately referred to what they sought as a “temporary injunction” and a “preliminary injunction” and that there was no transcript provided of the hasty hearing held in Circuit Court the day before.… Read more »

Doszap

Well, we can safely say this INFO was a CROCK.
Over 15,000 people were armed to the teeth there.

Alan1018

Constitution, we don need no stinkin constitution. A bunch of bloomberg bought and paid for dictators.

ALL GUN LAWS ARE INFRINGEMENTS

After Katrina In 2006, Congressman Bobby Jindal (LA) led the fight to protect America’s gun owners against these abuses by introducing H.R. 5013 that was signed into law below:

42 U.S.C. § 5207, the law prohibits persons acting under color of federal law, receiving federal funds, or acting at the direction of a federal employee from seizing or authorizing the seizure of lawfully-possessed firearms during a state of emergency. U.S. states now have similar laws.

ALL GUN LAWS ARE INFRINGEMENTS

Bloomberg has bought the courts in VA! Even the dumbest retarded Judges should be able to read VA Code on Emergencies which is quite clear! *§ 44-146.15. Construction of chapter. (3) Nothing in this chapter is to be construed to: Empower the Governor, any political subdivision, or any other governmental authority to in any way limit or prohibit the rights of the people to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by Article I, Section 13 of the Constitution of Virginia or the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.* TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242 Deprivation Of Rights: Under… Read more »

jmb1911

To Tetejaun and Bill, Christie was somewhat better than Florio on the gun issue. Florio is downright anti gun and still is. . When he was NJ Governor back in the late 80’s early 90′ and after the shooting in Stockton, CA by Patrick Purdy, legislation was at that time introduced to ban ” Assault Weapons” which is still in effect. I know law enforcement does stop persons for traffic violations and anything else can come out of those stops such as what Tetejuan mentions here. Last time, I recollect under federal law it is legal to transport a firearm… Read more »

DoctorWho

If shooting starts, there will be more dead Northam gestapo agents than patriotic citizens, simply based on the numbers attending. And, most of the state gestapo don’t want to lose their life for the pitiful salary they are paid.

Finnky

@Who – If shooting starts, we lose.
If there is not clear evidence that police started shooting without any provocation whatsoever, gun control would advance across the nation so fast it would make your head spin. Even with such evidence, they would gain considerable traction.
Regardless – if is hard to get people out to petition our government now, how many do you think will show up knowing government is willing to machine gun a crowd?

Buster

@Finnky Gun control is not going to advance anywhere, and for two reasons: 1) the Virginia Patriots will not fail and 2) Patriots in other states will not be deterred.

Peacenics like yourself need to STFU and stay the Hell out of the way.

Buster

The Patriots owe LEO’s one (and only one) opportunity to lay down their arms and surrender – no negotiating, no peace talks, no “cooling off periods”. Then it’s Katie bar the door.

Nanashi

So how many cucks are going to comply after shouting we will not comply for weeks?

Ansel Hazen

^^ That right there. ^^

This is your country gone rogue people. The rule of law is meaningless to these tyrants. They will not listen to peaceful protests. It’s already been reported VA legislators talking amongst themselves about ignoring you at the hearings. Some even snuck out for a quick smoke and had to be dragged back in. The justice system is corrupt, the election system is corrupt. And the media is corrupt.

We have all been warned about this from the Founding Fathers themselves. And it’s not like they didn’t make it clear what needs to be done.

Will Flatt

What needs to be done requires hard men. THEY have been softening people up now for decades!! This will not happen easily or smoothly.

Ansel Hazen

Van Cleave and Pratt should send a message to Colonel Pike telling him to stand down and stay away. Then contact Maj Gen Williams and request his help in an unofficial capacity. Fill the streets all around the Capitol area with parked cars so nothing can move. Make it impossible for Northam to enforce his unconstitutional EO.

jack mac

Will Flatt: Hard men are nice to have on one’s side. What is needed are brave people on our side. We will be fighting forces that are fearless because they believe we will be safely subdued and killed. All private citizens, regardless of sex or age are threatened by these forces. Those willing to remove the threat must include both sexes and all ages, with our without hard firm bodies. Our public servants are preparing their enforcers for boxing matches.

Will Flatt

Jack, this isn’t about just having physically fit people. When I say hard men, I mean people who are also spiritually hard, having moral courage to do right and face fearful odds without breaking. Hard men come in all ages, sizes, shapes, colors, and yes even strong women too.

Courageous Lion - Hear Me Roar - Jus Meum Tuebor

This pretty much sums it up folks.

Charlie Foxtrot

@Nanashi, looks like you belong to those that are also ill-informed. One can still show up armed to that rally, just not enter the fenced off Capitol Square area as there are metal detectors.