More People Murdered as Gun-Control Fails in New York State

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U.S.A. –-( Time and again, we’ve seen crazy murderers target unarmed citizens in New York City and New York State. A few weeks ago, a black man deliberately attacked white people on the New York City subway. We saw a white teenager deliberately go hunting for blacks and Jews in Buffalo last week. Sadly, the response of New York politicians is the same each time. Despite the extraordinary gun-control laws already in place, New York Democrats think the solution is to disarm more law-abiding citizens. It is hard to look at violence but it is more dangerous to think that more ink-on-paper will keep us safe next time.

The Gun Control we have in New York-

Few of us actually know about the many gun-control laws already in place in New York State. Even fewer of us know how badly those gun-control laws failed.

It is an old idea to try and restrict a criminal’s access to guns. New York is rated “A-” by Gifford’s gun-control organization. The state is rated sixth out of the fifty states for the strength of their gun-control laws. New York requires that law-abiding gun owners apply for a background check before they can buy a gun. The problem with background checks is that they look backward and mass murder is a one-and-done career. Mass murderers usually pass background checks.

In contrast, it can take months or years for an honest citizen to get a permit to carry a handgun in New York legally. Many honest citizens are denied their permits precisely because they are ordinary and don’t have an “extraordinary need” to protect themselves, their families, or their neighbors. Criminals don’t bother with permits.

The recent attackers in New York were known to the police because of their mental health problems and their threats of violence. Before the violent attacks, those threats never rose to the level where the attackers could be successfully prosecuted. Honest citizens have to renew their permits every five years. Criminals carry illegally.

For the fortunate few who can get a carry permit in New York State, gun-control laws restrict the number of cartridges they are allowed to carry in their guns. It is also illegal for most New Yorkers to bring their guns with them as they travel in New York. Laws like that are successful in disarming the victims but don’t bother mass murderers very much.

The Murderers Get a Vote-

We quickly found out that criminals don’t follow our gun-control regulations any better than they follow the rest of our laws. Mass murderers plan their crimes for months or years so mandatory waiting periods don’t stop mass murderers.

Guns have to be extremely simple so they operate reliably. They are far simpler than a home computer, and people build their own PCs. That means that guns are easy to make and to modify. The recent mass murderer modified his gun so it would be easier to reload.

Both of the recent murderers planned their attacks so they faced unarmed victims. In the earlier attack, only a handful of ordinary citizens are allowed to carry a firearm on the New York City subway. In this recent attack, the murderer chose the location for his attack because of the high population of blacks and Jews who lived in that area. The murderer chose that location because government officials routinely disarmed those minorities because they could not document an “extraordinary need” to go armed. Ordinary citizens pay the price when government officials get it wrong.

Armed Good-Guys Save Lives-

We don’t know what we don’t know, and we are not aware of what is concealed. Across the USA, millions of ordinary citizens legally carry a concealed firearm in public every day. About one in a dozen adults are armed. Armed citizens stop violent criminals thousands of times a day and we use a firearm in self-defense over a million times a year.

Mass murderers are evil and crazy, but they are not stupid. We know that mass-murderers look for easy victims because they told us so. An armed citizen was present at the attempted mass murder only 12 percent of the time. When they were there, the armed citizen stopped or reduced the number of victims 94 percent of the time. That sounds unbelievable at first.

Killing unarmed people is easy. Mass murder is almost impossible when some of your victims will shoot back.

We imagine a gunfight that looks like the old west movies we watched late at night. That isn’t how these events unfold. In real life, murderers get shot from behind.

Take a look around you the next time you are in public. Look around the mall, the supermarket, or the parking lot and imagine if you were the bad guy. Could you defend yourself from all the people who surround you? Remember that one-in-a-dozen adults are armed.. and the bad guy has no idea who they are and when they will shoot back.

Now you know why mass murderers go to “gun-free” zones where good guys are disarmed by law!

When an armed defender is present, the scenario unfolds this way. We hear a noise. We wonder if it is a gunshot and we look around. We hear it again, and we see people run. We see a murderer with a gun in his hand. We move to a safe position, present our firearm, and stop the threat. The attack is over in seconds.

Time means everything. On average, 2.3 people are killed when an armed defender is present. A dozen more people are killed if we have to wait the several minutes it takes for the police to arrive and stop the murderer.

What We Can Learn from New York-

Gun control promised to make us safe. It fails time after time because criminals and crazy people don’t obey our laws. Democrat politicians who support firearms prohibition excuse that their 23 thousand firearms regulations have simply not gone far enough and that mass-murderers are sure to obey the next law they pass. A more reasonable question is to ask if the first 23-thousand firearms regulations were a failure, then why would the next one be any different.

The news media won’t ask that question so we have to do it for them. Our safety and the safety of the people we love depend on asking those uncomfortable questions. It is hard to look at violence but it is more dangerous to think that more ink-on-paper will make us safer.

Our safety is up to us.

About Rob Morse

The original article, with sources, is posted here. Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, at Second Call Defense, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob was an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.Rob Morse


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To have a CC is a step I took years ago, many years of CC in pa, and living in a region wear NY, NJ, RI, Conn, Mass, Md, Del, DC, you have to know who reciprocates, CC is something that you have to keep up with at all times! I have moved to Mo and is a little less demanding having to know who does reciprocate the CC, I now only have one state that is a no reciprocate state, Ill is my thorn now they hate all guns!!!!! I had a stupid moment two years ago, I was… Read more »


Lived in NY for 50 years, Buffalo 45 had a carry permit that tokk 1 year to get, great people, beautiful area terrible goverment, about the time the BS SAFE act came into play God called us to GA, go back (un armed) to visit family and even that is uncomfortable, gun free safe zone my ass safety zone for mass murder is more like it. BTW Tops sucks Wegmans rules (proof I am from the area :-))


Georgia a great state to call home Do not miss NY at all Also had a full carry permit police at one police plaza and Nassau County make you feel like a criminal.
Georgia constitutional carry in place, easy as pie to get a ccp outdoor opportunities abound hunt fish Georgia. Reciprocates making southern travel comfortable read up get smart when entering another state know the rules then have a nice safe trip


Every Law on the books in New York would have stopped the crime had they been properly applied. Especially their RED Flag Legislation. As much of a Dark Hole as Red Flag Legislation has the potential to be. In this case it wasn’t applied even after this Scumbag threatened to shoot up a school. New York Law Enforcement, Prosecutors and the School District in question made the decision to not seek a warrant. Simply because the the Scumbag said he was only joking. Turns out the jokes on them and 10 people are dead because of it. Whether due to… Read more »


“WHEREAS, violence with firearms remain the most deadly tactic deployed by domestic extremists,

. . .

The New York State Police shall ensure that its sworn members are trained and instructed to file an application for an extreme risk protection order

. . .

Governor Kathy Hochul


Trained killers who view unarmed American old men, women, and children as “opfor.”

They follow orders.


Rob, Lots of information in the article but unfortunately I cannot use it in a discussion because there are no sources given for your statistics.


only thing I get out of their laws is if you want to kill lots of people go to new york


If New York is too inconvenient to get to,there remain a small handful of other states. Remember, NY is sixth from the bottom of the list. That means five more are worse. Not rocket science.

Better yet, arm up and carry on where you are. BE part of the solution, ready to defend those round abot you when one of these dirtbgs decides to play their trade in a town near you.