Biden Adds to List of Gun Lies, Threats in Gun Control Push

By Larry Keane

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Biden’s answer to Americans unwilling to submit to gun-control: the F16. IMG iStock-1383022984

U.S.A. -(AmmoLand.com)- President Joe Biden is at it again. He’s throwing out wild and unfounded lies to scare Americans into supporting his push for an unconstitutional ban on Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs). If that’s not outlandish enough, he continues to antagonize and threaten war against American citizens simply for exercising their Constitutionally-protected rights.

As the president likes to say, “I’m not joking.”

His latest claim was yet another attempt to malign and villainize MSRs.

“Do you realize the bullet out of an AR-15 travels five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun?” President Biden asked of the crowd in Wilkes-Barre, Pa.

Not true. First, President Biden fails to understand the difference between firearms and ammunition. The firearm, like an MSR, which comes chambered in many different calibers, doesn’t determine the muzzle velocity of the projectile fired from the gun. MSRs are commonly chambered to fire 5.56mm/.223 caliber ammunition. Those rounds travels between 2,700-3,100 feet per second (fps), an easily-verifiable fact Fox News was able to uncover. Fox News and Breitbart both cited a Field & Stream report that examined bullet speeds of some of the fastest cartridges on the market used for hunting. Here’s what they found:

  • .220 Swift — A 40-Grain .220 Swift round moves approximately 4,300 fps.
  • .257 Weatherby Magnum — An 87-Grain .257 Weatherby Magnum round moves approximately 3,700+ fps.
  • .30/378 Weatherby — A 165-Grain .30/378 Weatherby round moves approximately 3,400+ fps.
  • .224 Clark — An 80-Grain .224 Clark round moves approximately 3,500+ fps.
  • .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer — A 50-Grain .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer round moves approximately 4,600 fps.

The 55-grain round from a 5.56/.223 caliber didn’t even crack the list. That’s not all, though. President Biden repeated other debunked claims.

Cannons & 9 mm

“You can’t go out and buy a cannon,” President Biden said in his Pennsylvania speech. It’s a throwaway line for him and one that’s patently false. He’s previously added in that Americans couldn’t buy cannons at the time the nation was founded.

Even The Washington Post gave him Four Pinocchios for that one, and no one looks to that news outlet to be a defender of gun rights.

That ranks up there with his previous claim that a 9 mm cartridge “will blow the lungs out of a body.” Breitbart fact-checked that with a retired Navy SEAL, someone who might understand terminal performance of bullets on the human body.

The answer: “No way.”

That was backed-up federal agent with 15 years of experience. That answer – “bullsh*t.”

A 20-year federal agent told Breitbart it was “Not possible.” A 21-year-veteran of a U.S. Marshal fugitive recovery taskforce revealed, “That’s not even in the realm of possibility.”

President Biden’s firearms bona fides are looking, suspect.

Deer & Constitutional Rights

“How many deer or bears are wearing Kevlar vests, huh?” President Biden asked deridingly. “Not a joke.”

The last time we checked, none. That doesn’t explain, though, why many states continue to bar deer hunting with a 5.56mm/.223 caliber cartridge. Twelve states bar hunting with an AR-15 altogether, and at least another 10 have restrictions on hunting with an AR-15. The list cited didn’t include Virginia, which does restrict AR-15s chambered in 5.56mm/.223 cartridges for deer hunting because the round isn’t considered powerful enough for a humane harvest.

“But we let any stranger — an 18-year-old — walk in — a 20-year-old — and buy an AR-15,” President Biden also said.

That, of course, is just not true. Retail firearm purchases are only completed after an individual completes a Form 4473 and the retailer completes an FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) verification.

That statement also diminishes rights for adults fully-vested in their Constitutional rights. The president – who has sworn an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States – is claiming that only the rights he approves should apply. That’s not how our Constitution works.

Threats of War

The president’s antipathy toward Americans who exercise their Second Amendment rights didn’t end there.

“If you want to fight against a country, you need an F-15,” President Biden said. “You need something a little more than a gun. No, I’m not joking.”

That statement was made after labelling those who remind the government the Second Amendment was written to prevent a tyrannical government from running roughshod over its citizens. For all the overheated rhetoric of media pundits frothing about a civil war, it seems strange that the president threatens the American public – about half of whom he called semi-fascist – with war.

It’s not the first time, though. He made a similar statement in June 2021.

“If you wanted or if you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons,” President Biden said in a White House speech.

Newsweek reported that the president’s latest flippant F-15 remark was already viewed over 2 million times in less than 24 hours, drawing the ire of critics.

Fox News reported that Federalist senior legal correspondent Margot Cleveland tweeted, “So, ‘Safer America’ means, …checks notes:  A government threatening its citizens with F-15s.”

The president’s loose grasp of facts, willful ignorance of Constitutional rights, veiled threats, and explicit insults are a recipe for failure. Instead of pledging to ban commonly-owned firearms, President Biden should be focused on locking up criminals instead of winking and nodding at progressive prosecutors releasing them onto America’s streets.


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Building365

How many F-15’s did Al Qaeda and the Taliban have?

The militia groups of Afghanistan, using small arms and man-portable weapons fought two of the largest Armies in the world (USSR and USA) to a standstill and eventually forced them from their country without the use of tanks, APC’s, helicopters and jet bombers. 

It’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. 

swmft

and the idiot that they made run is making the threats

Boom

Have you ever been to Afghanistan?

Green Mtn. Boy

He is a idiot wrapped in a moron and smothered in imbecile sauce.

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Hazcat

Not bad, I may steal that. 😉

swmft

slow baked in shit, so as to fill all the voids

Green Mtn. Boy

Hazcat
I would be pleased if you do.

musicman44mag

To late, uncle joe has the copywrite on it just like Let’s Go Brandon.

musicman44mag

Funny. They have professionals give them the data regarding the speed of a bullet from a 223 or a 5.56 and they write it as if they both go the same speed. Any reloading book will tell you that a 5.56 bullet is faster and you can shoot 223 in a 5.56 and it is not safe to shoot 5.56 in a 223 because of the pressure. I wonder why they choose to write so much on how fast the bullet is like that is what is important. What is important is the fact that they want to remove anything… Read more »

Jonesy

Reminds me of a silly movie that had the line: “You can dodge the wrench but not the Ball” or something like that.

Arny

Wasn’t that Dodgeball ? With Vince Vaughn.

USMC0351Grunt

YES! Dodgeball; A True Underdog Story

Arny

Which is why I went Wylde ! lol

CourageousLion

Funny, the .223 rifles are typically bolt action which are designed to hold a lot more pressure than a semi auto. That you can’t shoot 5.56 in a 223 is BS. Period.

musicman44mag

You could be right but I know they make 223 that are AR platform and that is what I was in reference too. I think in the most part bolt action rifles are always stronger but it’s funny that it is because all the pressure stays right there in the chamber where with a AR the gas escapes through the gas tube and opens the chamber. maybe AR barrels are thinner.

Ope

I know 5.56 runs at 58,000psi vs 55,000psi .223 and 5.56 has a a slightly longer throat..125 in. but you can run 5.56 in 223 safely with no damage to rifle.

musicman44mag

I heard that you can run it but it will damage the rifle. Switch it and run 223 in a 5.56 is ok. Can you tell me where you read that? Was it a reloading manual?

Ope

Music, I’ve run 5.56 62gr. green tip ammo (my favorite) in all my AR15’s for many years and had zero damage to my barrel or rifle at all.

Ope

Music, those specs.can easily be pulled up online. I’ve run 5.56 62gr.green tip (my favorite ammo) in all my AR15’s for many years with zero damage to barrel or rifle at all. I really don’t know how that nonsense ever got started but I know from experience it’s crap.

musicman44mag

I wish we could buy green tip for reloading. I wonder why you cant or at least, I have never seen them for sale. Green tip is my favorite too that is one of the reasons I run 1in7 twist.

Ope

Music, Win. Lake City 5.56 62gr green tip became my absolute favorite ammo right after I ran it through one of my AR’s for the first time. A few years back me and my son made a massive bulk purchase of it through Natchez. I still have about 3,500 rds that I’m basically just sitting on right now. Just stay away from PMC green tip, it’s junk in my opinion.

musicman44mag

I only have Lake City brass but some of it was made by Federal in the Lake City Plant. I would like to be able to buy just the projectile and load my own. I have about four boxes of green tip and about 30 mags loaded with it in all my vehicles and other places.

Ope

Music, let me check something out. BRB

Ope

Music, check out Surplus Ammo.com and North East Target &Shooting Supply. I believe North East have the bullets in stock right now. The only downside is the tips aren’t painted green but it’s the exact same bullet. Surplus sells the bullets with green tip but their out of stock. You can be put on its notification when in stock email list too.

musicman44mag

Thanks for your help and info.

buzzsaw

You can buy them. SS109 and M855 are the same projectiles. Everglades ammo, armorally.com and theamericanmarksman.com all have them available right now. Some are new, some are pulled. I’ve done business with all three and am happy with what I got, though I was buying other products.

musicman44mag

Thank you.

musicman44mag

Just ordered 500 for starters. Wish I would have known about these years ago. I have thousands of 62 grain HP and 55 grain that I use for practice. Now I have what I really wanted.

musicman44mag

Smyth Busters: Is It Safe To Shoot 5.56 in a .223 AR-15? | Top Rated Supplier of Firearm Reloading Equipment, Supplies, and Tools – Colt (brownells.com)

Well I guess things have changed with time. All my reloading books show lower charges for 223 than 5.56. There are comments that the bullet will not be as accurate and that it will wear out the barrel quicker and to be cautious with older guns.

A lower charge in the 223 in a 5.56 bullet wouldn’t hurt but I still wouldn’t run it hot.

USMC0351Grunt

“As early as 1957, early development began on a new, small caliber, high-velocity round and rifle platform. These new cartridges would be based on the much smaller and lighter .22 caliber round, but despite the smaller projectile, US specifications also required that it maintained supersonic speed beyond 500 yards and could penetrate a standard-issue ballistic helmet at that same distance.” Which means the 5.56 round was developed so it’d be more rounds carried in the bottle with less weight and still maintain lethality against the enemy rather than the larger heavier 7.62×51. The 5.56s were made to come in belt… Read more »

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Montana454Casull

Let me do the math for everyone here .
Joe Biden = idiot ³

Diksum

I have come to the conclusion that I should regard all the things that Goofy Joe says are jokes, unless he says that they are not a joke, no joke, or I’m not joking.

Green Mtn. Boy

And even then he is lying.

Chuck

Since when has Joe McSniffy Schitz-His-Pants ever told the truth about anything? The Sack of Schitt’s a Pathological Liar.

CourageousLion
Farmer

Con-sti-tu-tion…a four cylinder word…way too difficult for the pea brain in the white house to comprehend. Unfortunately, 38 percent of the citizens in this country who are obviously doing hard drugs, think Brandon is doing a fine job!

Cam

You need to return it, it’s defective. Maybe they forgot to add the secret linear electronic motor in yours or your super capacitor need replacement. Are you using the 62 grain steel core? The super secret rail gun doesn’t work on non magnetic ammo!

Yote Hunter

Anyone who doesn’t believe by now that Resident Biden is a THREAT to the peace of our American way of life is surely too drunk on the kool aid of his lying cheating stealing Party of HATE (i.e. Demoncratic Party).

Wild Bill

Yep, about one half of the population of America.

GomeznSA

Bill – I ain’t so sure about that ‘half’ – especially when you factor in the massive amount of proven cheating from the ’20 (s)election. I seriously doubt that slow joe got even a quarter of the ‘votes’ he received, no matter how many times he and his propaganda arm claim ’81 million’.
No matter, there are still way too many folks who willingly ‘believe’ his lies.

Wild Bill

I was merely generalizing without any research. You are probably right.

gregs

wonder if joe remembers how the afghans sent the russians and americans packing after years of fighting against f-15’s and mig’s using somewhat primitive weapons.
but now they have some modern weapons of war in which to fight off others thanks to that same joe who wants to ban far less dangerous weapons for his countrymen.
thanks, you did that joe.

Ledesma

Please note that the liberal preoccupation with being shot one day is not completely unfounded. In fact, the vulgar way they behave themselves and their relentless harking after other people’s business puts them at a risk that no gun control agenda could ever reverse.

Ope

Yote, President just said at his recent rally what everyone knows but RINO’s won’t say out loud, ..”Joe Biden is an enemy of the state” ! No truer words have ever been spoken! If the Republican Party had just half the backbone of President Trump, our Republic would be in great shape and in total control. But instead too many Republicans are just cowards and spineless wonders. (it’s become a party of pantie waste sissy’s like Lindsay Graham)

CourageousLion

Poor Lindsay. His name emasculated him from the time he was four.

Russn8r

Yes but now he’s the Queen of Carolina!

Ope

You’re absolutely right about that!

Mystic Wolf

That byden always saying that the round from an AR 15 is 5 times faster than any other gun! Just who is quid-pro-joe trying to kid, at 5 times faster that would make that round hypersonic the bullet would vaporize before getting to the target. It would appear that neither quid-pro-joe nor his handlers knows anything about physics. When you have a bullet that is going as fast as the byden keeps saying the heat generated from said bullet would cause it to break down and crumble mid flight. That byden has completely lost whats left of his mind, the… Read more »

Ope

Mystic Wolf, someone needs to explain to Shotgun Joe that he’s full of shit. A 5.56 62gr. bullet muzzle velocity is a little over 3,000 fps.,3,000fps x5= 15,000 fps. 15,000 fps. converted to mph.is 10,227.27 mph. Shotgun Joe also says the general public can’t own tanks, and the military could takes us all out with nukes and military jets. That useless son of a bitch takes mental illness to places it’s never been.

musicman44mag

It’s not mental illness. It’s the power and control joe knows the left has over us. He wouldn’t be saying it if he had one inkling that they would lose the war they are going to start and blame on us.

Wild Bill

Even the Pope knows that he is full of shit. Joe keeps it in his pants.

DDS

Didn’t you get the memo?

Expecting correct answers to math problems is RACIST!

musicman44mag

Maybe it’s because he gets his info from the smartest son he knows?

Ray

Joe knows that he is addressing morons, who have no idea what the truth is and/or don’t care what it is.

Ral3312

Biden’s handlers want this shit spewing out of the diapered moron’s mouth hoping THEIR favorite practice of Gas Lighting will work on guns like it has on so many other bullshit leftist issues. THEY never stop!!!

Ray

The government winks and releases criminals who use firearms so that they can keep the gun control issue alive. When criminals misuse them to rob and murder.

UncAl

Joey fails to comprehend, or realize for that matter, that the speediest thing on earth is the ridiculous shit that comes out of his mouth!

USMC0351Grunt

A lie will gallop halfway round the world before the truth has time to pull its breeches on. “As Churchill said: ‘A lie gets halfway around the world before truth puts on its boots. ‘”

Mac

Biden is a MORON wrapped in STUPID!

Arny

So the Idiot in charge learned nothing after 20 years in the Middle East. And they were goat herders. LMAO SLOWMOJOE. C’mon Man !

swmft

we have upwords of 100,000 sharp shooters, every hunter can hit a plate at 500 yards….a green army where they chased out all the independent thinkers who can shoot…..video game warriors that run and hide when they see blood

3l120

So, on the one hand, you need a F-15 to overthrow the government, yet, on the other hand, unarmed protesters were almost able to destroy this country? Seems like doublespeak to me.

CourageousLion

And they couldn’t subdue some goat herders in Afghanistan after how many years?

StLPro2A

Or pajama slopes in the jungle……

PMinFl

“Newsweek reported that the president’s latest flippant F-15 remark was already viewed over 2 million times in less than 24 hours”. While we know that Biden is stretching a lie to make it even bigger, 2 million progressive idiots read and believed it. The main stream media just laps this up while not claiming any truth to their reporting, JOE SAID IT.

DDS

I suspect that a good part of those 2 million viewers were conservatives looking for some comic relief.

GomeznSA

Innit ‘amazing’ that the CIVILIAN version of actual military grade weapons like the M16/M4 series, the Tavor and the Steyr AUG chambered in the same caliber is the ONLY one that achieves hyper velocity. Apparently military forces around the world are just trying to minimize the damage wrought by their small arms.

Trussman

Sign me up for the 15,500 fps AR-15 in 5.56.(sarcasm).

At that rate of speed out of a 1:7 twist bbl, a standard lead core 55gr fmj projectile would disintegrate before exiting the barrel. It’d be like shooting rain drops or dog farts at targets downrange.

The level of stupidity in the White House is amazing and sad at the same time. Who comes up with this nonsense? The sad part is that some people will actually believe it.

Coelacanth

Yeah, all the Demotard voters.

Phreddie

Repeat the lies often enough and it becomes the truth.

GomeznSA

Nope – a lie is still a lie no matter how often it is repeated or how many ill informed folks ‘believe’ it. I’ll grant that the sheeple willingly accept that lie as long as it fits their preconceived notions and furthers the agenda.

Coelacanth

FJB talks more shit than the North Korean radio station. I’m not lying!

CourageousLion

“If you want to fight against a country, you need an F-15,” President Biden said. “You need something a little more than a gun. No, I’m not joking.”” Naaaa…one of these can take care of an F15m Chairman Xiden. It can be used to take the PILOT out when he is on the ground. And you’re not going to have one of your illegal aliens jumping into a cockpit too easily to fulfill the loss.

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Russn8r

Thanks NSSF, for taking “NO POSITION” (wink-wink) on the “Bipartisan Safer Communities Act of 2022”.

Translation for politicians & “our ATF partners”: “NSSF backs it, but we can’t say so or the 2A rabble will be mad at us.”

Our hoods are SO much SAFER now!

Arny

BINGO !

Chuck

Bipartisan Safer Criminals Act is what it s and should be called.

GomeznSA

Chuck – “Bipartisan Safer FOR Criminals Act” – there FIFY.

MICHAELANGELO

Stupid Dummy