PA Bill Requires Gun Shows to Copy IDs and Provide Info to State

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Representative Amen Brown (D-10) has introduced a new bill (former HB 1563) in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania legislature requiring anyone attending a gun show to show an ID. The gun show promoter must make a copy of the ID and keep it for five years. If the bill passes, they also must turn over those records to the Office of the Attorney General, any county prosecutor, or municipal police department upon request. There are no limitations as to why they can request the data.

The Representative from Philadelphia claims that he introduced the bill because “ghost guns” are sold at gun shows. No 80% kits have been sold at any gun show in the Key Stone state since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) passed their rule against unfinished frames. Even though there was an injunction against the rule, SCOTUS stayed the decision until they could rule on it in the Vanderstok case.

“Having seen firsthand how easy it is to purchase a ghost gun kit at a gun show, I recognize that we must take legislative action to keep these weapons out of the hands of criminals,” Brown wrote. “To accomplish this, I will be introducing legislation that will require all attendees at Pennsylvania gun shows to present valid identification prior to entering the show. A copy of every attendee’s identification would be made, and the operators of the gun show must maintain these copies for at least five years. Additionally, operators would be required to make these records available to the Office of Attorney General and any county prosecutor or municipal police department upon the request of the Pennsylvania Attorney General.”

Rep Brown has been at war with the gun industry for years. He was instrumental in convincing Eagle Arms to ban JSD Supply from its gun shows. His celebration was short-lived because JSD Supply’s owner, Jordan Vinroe, purchased the gun shows, changed the name to Eagle Shows, and returned his company to the shows. That enraged Brown. Since Vinroe owns almost all gun shows in the Commonwealth, this bill puts his shows into the crosshairs. Mr. Vinroe himself is a huge Second Amendment supporter who has battled anti-gunners in court.

Mr. Vinroe sees the bill as an attack on the civil rights of Pennsylvanians. He says that the bill is constitutionally dubious for several reasons. Vinroe says it infringes on an American’s First Amendment right because it deters the right to peaceful assembly. He also points out that it violates Fourth Amendment protections and a citizen’s right to privacy. He also points out that the bill probably violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. There will be ample grounds to challenge the bill if it becomes law.

“Former HB 1563 is a radical push to destroy your civil rights. This proposed amendment to Title 18 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes raises serious civil rights concerns by mandating the collection and retention of personal identification data from attendees of lawful gun shows,” Vinroe told AmmoLand News. “Such measures will infringe on First Amendment rights by deterring lawful assembly and participation in constitutionally protected activities. The requirement to scan and store attendees’ identification will violate Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures, as it imposes an unwarranted intrusion into personal privacy. Additionally, the broad discretion granted to law enforcement to access these records raises Fourteenth Amendment concerns regarding equal protection and potential misuse of data, further threatening civil liberties.”

One of the groups that Vinroe has worked closely with in the past is Gun Owners of America (GOA), which has been sounding the alarm bells on the bill. Dr. Val Finnell is the Director of Pennsylvania for GOA. He states that the Gun Rights group downgraded Brown from an “F” to an “F-“ because of constitutional concerns over the bill.

“Amen Brown’s proposed legislation would create a registry of anyone who attends a gun show in Pennsylvania by requiring promoters to keep a copy of every attendee’s ID for five years,” Finnell said. “Brown will be downgraded from an ‘F’ to an ‘F- ‘by GOA because of his prime sponsorship of this Draconian bill.”

The good news for gun owners is that the bill is unlikely to pass, no matter what Brown wants. Even if it goes past the legislature and is signed into law, multiple lawsuits will be filed immediately.


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john

Lets face it you need a ID for everything well almost everything. Democrats say you should not need a Id to Vote. Now that says it all. They redefine words like illegals to out of town guest.

Lets redefine to “Personal Hardware Show” Dressing for special occasions.

Finnky

Wonder how they defined “gun show?”

OK – we’ve redefined our gun show to be a shooting sports show. Gun show laws do not apply.

Arizona

Nope. Not happening.

CBW

This is so ***king illegal that whoever votes this should be deported from America for life.

Wass

They might as well require proofs of COVID vacs and colonoscopy, VD tests, etc. The totalitarian mindset knows no bounds. It’ll be easier to be elected to political office.

Last edited 7 months ago by Wass
Rob

and there we have it: nothing more than a vindictive, retaliatory act against Vinroe for beating Brown at his own game. Nothing more than a ploy to put Vinroe out of business. Such childishness.

Last edited 7 months ago by Rob
Novice.but.learning

Hmmm… how does this square with “Freedom of Assembly” in the US (and probably the PA) Constitution(s)? Amen Brown & friends appear to be wanna be re-creators and founding members of a D party modeled after the German National Socialist German Workers Party of the 1930’s.

nitehntr

since you asked, quit covering up the content with these nonsensical little adverts asking for comments and repeatedly having pop up after pop up every time you scroll to another part of the same page.

hoss

I’ll say one thing these Canaanites don’t give up easy.

Deplorable Bill

What ever happened to, “Shall not be infringed”? Handing over to the state any information about firearm, ammo, magazine, reloading purchases is to open a door to confiscation, publicly known identity and location and I.D. theft etc. ALL of these things have happened to legal, American citizens who obeyed a (unconstitutional) law forcing them to do so — or else. They were burned by communist/socialist leaning, treasonous, tyrannical, unconstitutional people in office/authority or those who somehow got access to that information, completely uncaring about the long and short term results of such acts. These things are among the attacks on… Read more »